Donegal List Members: I just posted the following to the new IRISH-DNA mail list. Since two of our 14 Devine DNA samples are from families first of record in County Donegal (but not related to each other), I thought it might be of some interest to other Donegal researchers. Donn Devine ---------------------- Subj: Devine and Variants Date: 10/22/04 11:04:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: DonnDevine@aol.com To: IRISH-DNA-D@rootsweb.com Our Devine Surname DNA Study web page describes findings based on 14 completed tests, which represent five R1b lines unrelated within historic times, and a sixth, probably Haplogroup I, line. The table of results and a tree chart that shows the genetic distance (number of mutations) separating the lines, are both linked from the page: <<http://hometown.aol.com/donndevine/myhomepage/heritage.html> If you are researching a surname with traditional links to a clan or sept associated with one that has a name rendered in English as Devine or some variant of it, you may want to see if any of our haplotypes correspond. Note, however, that without a surname match, any DNA-indicated common ancestor is probably earlier than the year 1000--at best consistent with a relationship shown in the ancient genealogies from oral tradition. Some other family groups and families associated with the Devines are mentioned in the surname study at <http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/~oduibhin/duibhin.htm> Donn Devine, CG, CGI Coordinator, Devine Surname DNA Study Coordinator, Baldwin Surname DNA Study [without an Irish connections as yet] Wilmington, Delaware, USA Surname Study Web site, with links to more information on DNA: <http://hometown.aol.com/donndevine/myhomepage/heritage.html> Web page to join the study and order your sample kit at reduced group rates: <http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=Q26721> CG, Certified Genealogist, CGI, and Certified Genealogical Instructor are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.