I'm looking for anybody with any information on these two families: Ellen Doherty (b. 1909, Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany) emigrated to the USA, and there married a James Byrne of Gweedore. It may be the general Gweedore area, but as that bit's hearsay, I can't be sure if that is where he came from. Her brother, Michael Doherty (b. 1901, Giblin) married James Byrne's sister, Bridget, who was also supposed to be born in Gweedore. Ellen and Michael's parents were Cornelius (Con) Doherty (b. abt 1851, Rasheeny) and Susan Doherty (b. 1868, Magheramore, Clonmany). My connection is that my gGrandmother Susan Doherty (b. 1896) was Michael and Ellen's sister. Also, according to her Ellis Island record, another sister, Alice, went to New London, CT, to her aunt Mrs. Mary Reilly (23 Chapel St.) in Sep 1921. She died in America soon afterwards. If you're any connection, I'd love to get in contact. Michael Ó Nuadháin

A Mhícheáil, a Chara, The Byrne name would have been rare or absent in the Gaoth Dobhair area during the early part of the twentieth century, and indeed there are few of that name here now. The 'pre-mobile' telephone directory is a reasonable guide to the distribution of surnames and I think that you can now access the Irish Telephone Directory OnLine. A quick glance would seem to suggest that the Byrnes are more numerous in the west of the county and I would look for James Byrne in the Rosses rather than in Gaoth Dobhair. 'Arranmore Links' by Barney Gallagher lists just one Byrne family on the island. For Arranmore watchers, I think that the book has been republished in 2004. Aranmore Links should be available from ABC Bookshop, Letterkenny and Four Masters Bookshop, Donegal Town. There is one thing that I would like to figure out - how did the Byrnes come to be living in Donegal. Have they been here since the time of Aodh Rua Ó Domhnaill or have they just figured out that this place is the nearest to Heaven that you can find on earth? Beannacht Dé, P.J. Ó Domhnaill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Ó Nuadháin" <michealonuadhain@eircom.net> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:52 AM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Byrnes of Gweedore / Dohertys of Clonmany > I'm looking for anybody with any information on these two families: > > Ellen Doherty (b. 1909, Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany) emigrated to the > USA, and there married a James Byrne of Gweedore. It may be the general > Gweedore area, but as that bit's hearsay, I can't be sure if that is > where he came from. Her brother, Michael Doherty (b. 1901, Giblin) > married James Byrne's sister, Bridget, who was also supposed to be born > in Gweedore. Ellen and Michael's parents were Cornelius (Con) Doherty > (b. abt 1851, Rasheeny) and Susan Doherty (b. 1868, Magheramore, > Clonmany). My connection is that my gGrandmother Susan Doherty (b. 1896) > was Michael and Ellen's sister. > > Also, according to her Ellis Island record, another sister, Alice, went > to New London, CT, to her aunt Mrs. Mary Reilly (23 Chapel St.) in Sep > 1921. She died in America soon afterwards. > > If you're any connection, I'd love to get in contact. > > Michael Ó Nuadháin > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > To browse through the archives of the list go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Visit my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.com/~donegaleire > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

I would be interested in learning where your Doherty/Byrne's emigrated to in USA. My grandmother(b.1873) was born in Ardara area( Carn/Derryness/Beagh) and emigrated first to Phila. then to Hazleton/ Wilkes Barre PA area. There were Byrne relatives in all of these areas, most notably Cornelius (Con) Byrne ( b.1835) a prominent business man in Hazleton.I seem to recall Doherty's in Haz./WB area too. Con Byrne was one of 12 children born to William and Mary(McHugh or McCue) Byrne.I have the names of all sibs of Con; Daniel(b.1845), Joseph, John, James, William, Hugh, Catherine, Mary Ann, Bridget, Margaret, Francis, Patrick. I have been able to find Catherine,Joseph, Hugh,John and poss. Mary coming to USA and in Hazleton area at one point. Don't know how many children they produced except Con and Daniel or where they might have lived I know nothing of any of the Byrne's who remained in Co. Don. except my great grandfather Daniel. He married a Mary Gallagher. My grandmother was Catherine, the eldest. There were 2 other daughters, Mary who married a Dan Sweeney, and Bridget who I believe died unmarried. The males were John, Patrick and William. William is buried in cemetery in Ardara, as is Bridget, John and Patrick alleged to have gone to work in the mines in Montana and died there. Maybe your Gweedore Byrne family might be in some way linked to mine? I do have ancestors on my mother's side of the family who were from the Gweedore areaand also ended up in the Hazleton/Wilkes Barre PA area too-Sharkey/Ferry/Mann/Bon(n)er/Gallagher. Regards, Meg

barry armstrong wrote: >I would be interested in learning where your Doherty/Byrne's emigrated to >in USA. >My grandmother(b.1873) was born in Ardara area( Carn/Derryness/Beagh) and >emigrated first to Phila. then to Hazleton/ Wilkes Barre PA area. There >were Byrne relatives in all of these areas, most notably Cornelius (Con) >Byrne ( b.1835) a prominent business man in Hazleton.I seem to recall >Doherty's in Haz./WB area too. >Con Byrne was one of 12 children born to William and Mary(McHugh or McCue) > > > Hi Meg, I'm afraid I only heard second hand from my grandfather that the two Dohertys married Byrnes from Gweedore. I'm afraid I have no further information on the Byrnes, as none of them would have been any relation of mine (their descendents would be through the Dohertys). All the information I have is on the family group sheet below (child no. 6 & 9). The Dohertys had a sister who went to New London, CT, and cousins who went to Boston, MA, so I would hazard a guess that they stayed in New England. All these people would have emigrated in the 1900/1910s. Michael -- Family Group Record for Cornelius Doherty ================================================================================ Husband: Cornelius Doherty ================================================================================ AKA: Con Doherty Born: Abt 1851 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: Died: - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Buried: Father: Neal Doherty ( - ) Mother: Married: 5 Apr 1893 Place: St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. ================================================================================ Wife: Susan Doherty ================================================================================ AKA: Born: 1868 - Magheramore, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: 14 Aug 1868 - St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Died: - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Buried: Father: Michael Doherty ( -Bef 1901) Mother: Frances McEleney (Abt 1839- ) ================================================================================ Children ================================================================================ 1 F Mary Doherty Born: 1894 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: 29 Jan 1894 - St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Died: - Derry, Co. Derry. Buried: Spouse: Never Married Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 F Susan Doherty Born: 1896 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: 26 Feb 1896 - St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Died: 19 May 1978 - Cloontagh, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Buried: Spouse: Daniel McGonigle (1891-1969) Marr. Date: 1 Feb 1923 - St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 M Patrick Doherty Born: 1897 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: 25 Mar 1897 - St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Died: Buried: Spouse: Never Married Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 F Alice Doherty Born: 1898 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: 1 Jul 1898 - St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Died: After 1920 - New London, Fairfield, CT, USA. Buried: Spouse: Never Married Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5 M Neil Doherty Born: 1900 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: 11 May 1900 - St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Died: Buried: Spouse: Ellen Doherty ( - ) Marr. Date: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 M Michael Doherty Born: 1901 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: 11 Aug 1901 Died: - USA. Buried: Spouse: Bridget Byrne ( - ) Marr. Date: USA. Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 M John J. Doherty Born: 1903 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: 4 Apr 1903 Died: Bef 2 Apr 1911 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Buried: Spouse: Never Married Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 F Frances Doherty Born: 1907 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: 29 Oct 1907 - St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Died: 7 Oct 1982 - Ballygorman, Malin Head, Co. Donegal. Buried: Spouse: Patrick Glackin (1904-1984) Marr. Date: 29 Oct 1934 - St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9 F Ellen Doherty Born: 1909 - Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Christened: 22 May 1909 - St. Mary's Church, Clonmany, Co. Donegal. Died: - USA. Buried: Spouse: James Byrne ( - ) Marr. Date: USA. Spouse: Marr. Date: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

P.J. Ó Domhnaill wrote: >A Mhícheáil, a Chara, > >The Byrne name would have been rare or absent in the Gaoth Dobhair area >during the early part of the twentieth century, and indeed there are few of >that name here now. > >[snip] > >There is one thing that I would like to figure out - how did the Byrnes come >to be living in Donegal. Have they been here since the time of Aodh Rua Ó >Domhnaill or have they just figured out that this place is the nearest to >Heaven that you can find on earth? > P.J., a Chara, I can't say I've looked, as I never thought of tracing them back because there's no real relationship to me there - I'm really just interested in tracing their descendents, as they share a blood relationship with me, and I'm interested in finding out what happened to them after their arrival in the states. I'm from Donegal, and still living here, so I've got the phone book, and see what you mean about the rarity of the name - it's not common in this direction either (Inishowen). I've no idea how they came to be here - I've the same problem with my own name (Ó Nuadháin - Noone) came to be here, and that story is lost in the mists of time over 200 years ago. I do like your nearest place to Heaven theory! Beannachtaí, Michael

Hi, Many Munster names are now in Donegal since the 17th century - they chased the Herring which was plentiful in the Gweebarra Bay then - McHugh, Mckelvey, McGeehan, etc are names from Clare and Mayo - the Gweebarra was the primary fishhing location for the people of the West during the reign of Elizabeth. Our Doherty aancestors are another story. Regards, Patricia Sharkey, daughter of McNulty, daughter of McMonagle, Sweeney, Ward and back to Doherty again.on every side - That's 6 generations and that's all one can go by record - myth, legend and speculation aside. Regards, Patricia Sharkey in Fintown, Donegal via Derry and Urris and Fintown. Sin e an sceal ----- Original Message ----- From: "P.J. Ó Domhnaill" <solas@gofree.indigo.ie> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Byrnes of Gweedore / Dohertys of Clonmany A Mhícheáil, a Chara, The Byrne name would have been rare or absent in the Gaoth Dobhair area during the early part of the twentieth century, and indeed there are few of that name here now. The 'pre-mobile' telephone directory is a reasonable guide to the distribution of surnames and I think that you can now access the Irish Telephone Directory OnLine. A quick glance would seem to suggest that the Byrnes are more numerous in the west of the county and I would look for James Byrne in the Rosses rather than in Gaoth Dobhair. 'Arranmore Links' by Barney Gallagher lists just one Byrne family on the island. For Arranmore watchers, I think that the book has been republished in 2004. Aranmore Links should be available from ABC Bookshop, Letterkenny and Four Masters Bookshop, Donegal Town. There is one thing that I would like to figure out - how did the Byrnes come to be living in Donegal. Have they been here since the time of Aodh Rua Ó Domhnaill or have they just figured out that this place is the nearest to Heaven that you can find on earth? Beannacht Dé, P.J. Ó Domhnaill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Ó Nuadháin" <michealonuadhain@eircom.net> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:52 AM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Byrnes of Gweedore / Dohertys of Clonmany > I'm looking for anybody with any information on these two families: > > Ellen Doherty (b. 1909, Giblin, Rasheeny, Clonmany) emigrated to the > USA, and there married a James Byrne of Gweedore. It may be the general > Gweedore area, but as that bit's hearsay, I can't be sure if that is > where he came from. Her brother, Michael Doherty (b. 1901, Giblin) > married James Byrne's sister, Bridget, who was also supposed to be born > in Gweedore. Ellen and Michael's parents were Cornelius (Con) Doherty > (b. abt 1851, Rasheeny) and Susan Doherty (b. 1868, Magheramore, > Clonmany). My connection is that my gGrandmother Susan Doherty (b. 1896) > was Michael and Ellen's sister. > > Also, according to her Ellis Island record, another sister, Alice, went > to New London, CT, to her aunt Mrs. Mary Reilly (23 Chapel St.) in Sep > 1921. She died in America soon afterwards. > > If you're any connection, I'd love to get in contact. > > Michael Ó Nuadháin > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > To browse through the archives of the list go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Visit my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.com/~donegaleire > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== Visit my Donegal Homepage at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ Check out The Griffith's Valuation & other statistics at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/