In a message dated 8/16/2004 2:02:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, costello13@juno.com writes: > > ToWhomItMayInterest: > > Has anyone participated in any of the DNA projects & the services that > they offer that occasionally pop up on the genealogy bb's? Does anyone > have any comments concerning them? Are any of them to be recommended? > Which ones? Why? In the menu of services offered, how to select? Are the > services costly, how much? The website that I came across is: > <http://www.familytreeDNA.com>. Your comments may be of interest to many > of us. > ed i run the denning variants projects at this url <A HREF="http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Denning&variants"> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Denning&variants</A> it is the next step in geneaology . there gets a point where you cant do the paper and if you did you might not know when your ancestors actually came to ireland and from where they came . Also it isnt true they always stayed there all their lives. maybe they were sailors ,army ,diplomats or just travelers. chances are slim you'de know that stuff.i assumed my stonemason dennings were british who went to scotland post bloody queen mary and then to ireland post mary queen and the change from presbyterian to anglican. all of that is still probably true but my dna shows at 12 marker matches with 18 people who almost definantly are cousins of some removal. 12 Marker Y-DNA Matches <IMG SRC="http://www.familytreedna.com/images/tableline.gif" WIDTH="250" HEIGHT="1" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="54"> Exact Matches <IMG SRC="http://www.familytreedna.com/images/tableline.gif" WIDTH="250" HEIGHT="1" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="54"> Country (Number of Entries) Comment Your Matches Australia (66) Greek 1 Austria-Hungary (47) - 1 Belarus (100) Ashkenazi (Volozhin) 1 England (3370) - 6 France (237) - 3 Germany (879) - 5 Greece (61) - 1 Ireland (1181) - 1 Lithuania (133) - 2 Lithuania (133) Ashkenazi (Volozhin) 1 Romania (103) - 3 Russia (1203) - 1 Russia (1203) Ashkenazi 1 Russia (1203) Ashkenazi-Levite 1 Scotland (995) - 1 Sweden (91) - 6 Unknown Origin - 11 now how much work would it be in paper and time on comp getting these hookups. the greek is also a 23/24 match which indicates a relationship closer in time a couple others are 23 /25. how would you go about finding this out in paper. lol you have alot but nothing close to this i bet. my devers i need to try san connect with thats my maternal name they have all matched so if i do a mtdna study maybe i can hook up ith them if i cant talk someone from my dever side to do it <A HREF="http://www.familytreedna.com/public/dever/">http://www.familytreedna.com/public/dever/</A> the denning and variants have 3 paticipants all different dna patterns but if you think all costellos came from the same one person in a small town your wrong. all of a sudden names became important probably because of a kings doing a census or something. names were adopted with words familiar to them. so thats why occupations were so numerous smith is from a smithy.someone witha craft,baker carpenter,hunter all are obvious. as are royal names like royal lord duke ect.self explainatory all branches on the tree. which branch are you is what geneaology is all about. how do we know past the paper trail. One thing goes back beyond that y chromosomes. you can tell which costello branch you are from. http://www.ftdna.com/default.asp is as good as the rest and costs the least and is doing alot of stuff to connect up people. right now i have 18 relatives out of maybe 9000 total who are in the databases. what happens when 9,000,000 are in it. you'll see exactly how you fit on the tree trunk. hope i explained it well best cash i ever could of spent. probably less then hiring some irish genealogist to research two people Jim Denning Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list