Thanks everyone for all your responses. It seems we are agreed that there is indeed a very strong likelihood of Robert Senr being the father of Robert Junr. This leaves us with a problem. We have a Robert from the same townland dying aged 86 in 1836 so it would seem logical that he was the Robert Senr. Problem is, we thought we had all his kids documented quite well - and there was no Robert! But then again, that is very unlikely - that he had five sons and didn't call one Robert. So, maybe we have found the missing Robert. -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 September 2008 22:36 To: [email protected]; 'IRL-Donegaleire-L' Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] TAB Senr and Junr Hello Boyd. Here is what is said about it (there are further examples given in the paper) in that wonderful paper about Griffith's on the County Roscommon site: SNIP