Hi again, I just rechecked the 1880 census for MA/US for this family, from another web site, and was reminded that William HANNAH (bIRE) and Eliza RITCHIE (bIRE) both listed all parents as being born in Scotland. So, parents, William HANNAH and Mary Ann DOE, and Andrew RITCHIE and Isabella YEATES ??, were all born in Scotland. One "guess" is that they were probably born around 1800, or just before that, depending on how many children they had. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (I'll go check the archives of the Scotland List for the DOE and YEATES surnames.)