Hello! April 2011 marks the 150th anniversary of the evictions from Derryveagh by John George Adair of 244 poor souls from their homes. A committee has been selected and meetings are now underway to organise a fitting commemoration of that sad event. I have made a Facebook page and also linked in the details to my Gartan parish pages of my website. The first preliminary itinery is now online. If you are interested and/or can help with suggestions, recommendations etc, please visit the page and read the itinery - feel free to leave any comments and to pass along this information too. The link for the Facebook page is http://www.facebook.com/pages/Derryveagh-Evictions-150th-Anniversary-2011/194366707243176 All the best, Lindel Donegal Genealogy Resources - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/

Allyssa, A few entries that have McG/Farron as parents from Donegal. Further down, a list of McG births from Donegal. Always a chance some of these names may link up. Bob CDN ------------ MCGONAGLE Anne Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 18 Jan 1871 Birthplace: 166 Malin Don Ire Recorded in: Donegal Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John MCGONAGLE Mother: Anne FARRON Source: FHL Film 255841 Dates: 1871 - 1872 MCGONAGLE Edward Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 18 Jan 1871 Birthplace: 166 Malin Don Ire Recorded in: Donegal Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John MCGONAGLE Mother: Anne FARRON Source: FHL Film 255841 Dates: 1871 - 1872 MCGONAGLE Anne Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 8 May 1872 Birthplace: 169 Malin Don Ire Recorded in: Donegal Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Daniel MCGONAGLE Mother: Rose FARON Source: FHL Film 255850 Dates: 1872 - 1873 MCGONAGLE William Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 8 May 1872 Birthplace: 176 Moville Don Ire Recorded in: Donegal Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Michael MCGONAGLE Mother: Sarah FARREN Source: FHL Film 255850 Dates: 1872 - 1873 MCGONAGLE Michael Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 10 Sep 1873 Birthplace: Malin Don Ire Recorded in: Donegal Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John MCGONAGLE Mother: Anne FARON Source: FHL Film 255889 Dates: 1873 - 1875 Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province MALIN T. xx Donegal Inishowen East Clonea Inishowen Ulster Craigtown 145 Donegal Kilmacrenan Tullaghobegly Dunfanaghy Ulster Craigtown 219 Craig 99 Donegal Kilmacrenan Clondahorky Dunfanaghy Ulster Craig 483 Donegal Inishowen West Muff Londonderry Ulster Craigdoo 187 Donegal Raphoe Convoy Stranorlar Ulster Craigmaddyroe Far 139 Donegal Kilmacrenan Killygarvan Millford Ulster Craigmaddyroe Near 126 Donegal Kilmacrenan Killygarvan Millford Ulster Craignacally Carrowreagh 497 Donegal Inishowen East Clonmany Inishowen Ulster Craigroe 112 Donegal Tirhugh Donegal Donegal Ulster Craigs 168 Donegal Raphoe Raphoe Strabane Ulster Craigs Tommyscroft 143 Donegal Raphoe Convoy Stranorlar UlsterDonegal Inishowen West Fahan Upper Londonderry Ulster MCGONAGLE, Anne Bir 1871 Irel Done Fa: John MCGONAGLE Mo: Anne FARRON MCGONAGLE, Bridget Bir 1871 Irel Done Fa: Hugh MCGONAGLE Mo: Bridget KELLY MCGONAGLE, Edward Bir 1871 Irel Done Fa: John MCGONAGLE Mo: Anne FARRON MCGONAGLE, Eliza Bir 1871 Irel Done Fa: William MCGONAGLE Mo: Margaret MAGEE MCGONAGLE, Ellen Bir 1871 Irel Done Fa: Michael MCGONAGLE Mo: Bridget MCGONAGLE MCGONAGLE, John Bir 1871 Irel Done Fa: Dan MCGONAGLE Mo: Sarah MAGINNISS MCGONAGLE, Patrick Bir 1871 Irel Done Fa: Patrick MCGONAGLE Mo: Hannah BRADLEY MCGONAGLE, Unity Bir 1871 Irel Done Fa: Philip MCGONAGLE Mo: Elizabeth MCGONAGLE MCGONAGLE, Bir 1872 Irel Done Fa: James MCGONAGLE Mo: Susan FRIZZEL MCGONAGLE, Anne Bir 1872 Irel Done Fa: Daniel MCGONAGLE Mo: Rose FARON MCGONAGLE, John Bir 1872 Irel Done Fa: Hugh MCGONAGLE Mo: Mary BROGAN MCGONAGLE, Mary Bir 1872 Irel Done Fa: John MCGONAGLE Mo: Bridget KEARNEY MCGONAGLE, William Bir 1872 Irel Done Fa: Michael MCGONAGLE Mo: Sarah FARREN MCGONAGLE, Michael Bir 1873 Irel Done Fa: John MCGONAGLE Mo: Anne FARON MCGONAGLE, Michael Bir 1874 Irel Done Fa: Neal McGonagle Mo: Mary Gallagher MCGONAGLE, James Bir 1875 Irel Done Fa: Daniel MCGONAGLE Mo: Bridget DIVER MCGONAGLE, Mary Bir 1875 Irel Done Fa: Neal MCGONAGLE Mo: Mary GALLAGHER

i do have his parents, Edward and Ellen/Elleanor Farren. I don't yet know if the came over. many of their other children did though. their records so far just say Ireland, though i still have much more work to do. thank you for your help, everyone. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM, hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net> wrote: > Allyssa, > > If Peter is having difficulty in finding "Creekstown" not much hope for > the rest of us. > > But > > Looking at the Ireland Atlas and Placenames Database of Ireland and > others, then breaking down the names there are a few possibilities: > > http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/cgi-bin/iresrch > and > http://www.logainm.ie/ > http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html#Top > http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ > http://gis.donegal.ie/gplan_donegalcc/default.aspx?fn=044848 > > I use the "Ctrl F" and insert e.g Cree, Kr, Cri etc and see what > pops up. > > The entry depends upon the person inserting the info into the books, > what did he hear from the person giving the data. > Prior to the 1900s many individuals could not read or write so they > could not check the data on the entry paper. > > CREESLOUGH T. xx Donegal Kilmacrenan Clondahorky > Dunfanaghy Ulster > due to Crees------- Town, > > Creehennan 828 Donegal Inishowen East Moville > Upper Inishowen Ulster > > Creenary 548 Donegal Kilmacrenan Clondahorky > Dunfanaghy Ulster > Creenasmear 872 Donegal Kilmacrenan Clondahorky > Dunfanaghy Ulster > Creenveen 641 Donegal Banagh Glencolumbkille > Glenties Ulster > Creeslough 427 Donegal Kilmacrenan Clondahorky > Dunfanaghy Ulster > Creevagh 205 Donegal Kilmacrenan Mevagh > Millford Ulster > Creeve 304 Donegal Raphoe Allsaints > Londonderry Ulster > Creeve (Smith) 232 Donegal Raphoe Leck > Letterkenny Ulster > Creeve Glebe 295 Donegal Raphoe Leck > Letterkenny Ulster > Creeveoughter 846 Donegal Kilmacrenan Killygarvan > Millford Ulster > Creevins 199 Donegal Banagh Inver Donegal > Ulster > Creevy 815 Donegal Tirhugh Kilbarron > Ballyshannon Ulster > > I am unable to find any that actually come close to our search word > "creekstown" > > What dates are you interested in? Did he mention his parents names on > any document, in particular his marriage certificate? > All the info you have may help someone hone in on the surname. > > Bob > CDN > ======================== > > On 28/01/2011 11:54 PM, Allyssa Edwards wrote: <SNIP>...I've located > some records on this Daniel McGonagle that i'm trying to fill in. most > records just say ireland. his draft registration says Donegal... > ====================== > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you > are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, > remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying. > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/DONEGALEIRE/ > > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES > AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=DONEGALEIRE > > SOME HELPFUL WEBSITES: > Donegal Genealogy Resource (Lindel's Site) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > Donegaleire Genealogy Links & Data > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ > Bob's Donegal Ireland Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONEGALEIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ (I am often house-bound or limited in my travels, so can often only search from/near home. I always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) http://branches-leaves.blogspot.com (obits, records, transcriptions, etc) http://allmcgonigle.blogspot.com/ (McGonigle variants One Name Study..can u help out?)

Allyssa, If Peter is having difficulty in finding "Creekstown" not much hope for the rest of us. But Looking at the Ireland Atlas and Placenames Database of Ireland and others, then breaking down the names there are a few possibilities: http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/cgi-bin/iresrch and http://www.logainm.ie/ http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html#Top http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/placenames/ http://gis.donegal.ie/gplan_donegalcc/default.aspx?fn=044848 I use the "Ctrl F" and insert e.g Cree, Kr, Cri etc and see what pops up. The entry depends upon the person inserting the info into the books, what did he hear from the person giving the data. Prior to the 1900s many individuals could not read or write so they could not check the data on the entry paper. CREESLOUGH T. xx Donegal Kilmacrenan Clondahorky Dunfanaghy Ulster due to Crees------- Town, Creehennan 828 Donegal Inishowen East Moville Upper Inishowen Ulster Creenary 548 Donegal Kilmacrenan Clondahorky Dunfanaghy Ulster Creenasmear 872 Donegal Kilmacrenan Clondahorky Dunfanaghy Ulster Creenveen 641 Donegal Banagh Glencolumbkille Glenties Ulster Creeslough 427 Donegal Kilmacrenan Clondahorky Dunfanaghy Ulster Creevagh 205 Donegal Kilmacrenan Mevagh Millford Ulster Creeve 304 Donegal Raphoe Allsaints Londonderry Ulster Creeve (Smith) 232 Donegal Raphoe Leck Letterkenny Ulster Creeve Glebe 295 Donegal Raphoe Leck Letterkenny Ulster Creeveoughter 846 Donegal Kilmacrenan Killygarvan Millford Ulster Creevins 199 Donegal Banagh Inver Donegal Ulster Creevy 815 Donegal Tirhugh Kilbarron Ballyshannon Ulster I am unable to find any that actually come close to our search word "creekstown" What dates are you interested in? Did he mention his parents names on any document, in particular his marriage certificate? All the info you have may help someone hone in on the surname. Bob CDN ======================== On 28/01/2011 11:54 PM, Allyssa Edwards wrote: <SNIP>...I've located some records on this Daniel McGonagle that i'm trying to fill in. most records just say ireland. his draft registration says Donegal... ======================

Allyssa asks: === I've tried searching for Creekstown in Donegal, but no luck. found a Creekstown that supposed to be in Meath, though i cannot find it on a map. and theres a Crookstown in Cork. Does anyone know of any place in Donegal that this may be? === I'm still looking.......but the placename in Co. Meath may be Crickstown, which is just a couple of miles N. of Ratoath town. I'll keep searching. Pete .................................................... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

I've located some records on this Daniel McGonagle that i'm trying to fill in. most records just say ireland. his draft registration says Donegal (which of course tonsa McGonagles hail from), and his naturalization says Creekstown, Ireland. I'm positive these are the same person in these records. I've tried searching for Creekstown in Donegal, but no luck. found a Creekstown that supposed to be in Meath, though i cannot find it on a map. and theres a Crookstown in Cork. Does anyone know of any place in Donegal that this may be? -- ~*~ Allyssa (New England, USA) ~*~ (I am often house-bound or limited in my travels, so can often only search from/near home. I always GREATLY appreciate the kindness of volunteers.) http://branches-leaves.blogspot.com (obits, records, transcriptions, etc) http://allmcgonigle.blogspot.com/ (McGonigle variants One Name Study..can u help out?)

Done, next issue. Bob CDN ========= On 28/01/2011 9:48 AM, marilyn anne love wrote: > malove@shaw.ca,Letterkenny,Conwal,Letterkenny,Langan Patrick,Sweeney Mary,James, >

malove@shaw.ca, Letterkenny,Conwal,Letterkenny Town,Langan Patrick,Sweeney Mary,James,

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Be sure and check the file for new updates, maybe someone has added a new surname you are looking for. -------------------------------------------------- Donegal Members, 21 Jan 2011 To review the instructions for submitting your data visit: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/WhatsNew/New.html Click on "Instruction for Submitting Input http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/WhatsNew/New.html You can't input your own data into the DB but must submit your input via the Senegalese Mailing List. It will be picked up and inserted into the spreadsheet. If you are having problems formatting your info why not contact me directly and see if the problem can be fixed. --------------- PICKUP THE Latest COPY OF THE DATABASE: You can pick up the latest Donegal Researchers List at: (Red Box). http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/WhatsNew/New.html or http://hiflyte.22web.net/WhatsNew/New.html Just click the box (Red Box)and follow the instructions. --------- Interested in Irish Genealogy : Visit Bob's Genealogy Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/ Visit IGPA's Website: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives Visit: Donegal Genealogy Resources http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/ Visit: Queenscastle http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegaleire/ Bob Cdn =================

e Book on Immigrant workers in Mass. 1860 An authentic history of the Lawrence calamity, embracing a description of the Pemberton Mill, a detailed account of the catastrophe, a chapter of thrilling incidents, list of contributions to the relief fund, names of the killed and wounded, abstracts of the sermons on the subject, report of the coroner's inquest, &c A large number were Irish http://www3.gendisasters.com/massachusetts/10005/lawrence-ma-pemberton-mills-disaster-jan-1860 The following lists are from the book "An Authentic History of the Lawrence Calamity" pages 54 thru 57. List of the Dead and Injured. The following list of the dead, badly injured, slightly injured, and missing or unidentified, has been officially revised and corrected, and is believed to be accurate. It was compiled by Hon. John R. Rollins, Ex-Mayor. It will be seen that the total number of dead and missing, is ninety: of this number, severty-six bodies have been recovered and recognized, thirteen are yet unrecognized, leaving but one missing. http://www.archive.org/details/authentichistory00dyer _________________________________________ Victims Names on pgs 54 - 57 in above e-book Estimates of the number killed by the collapse and subsequent fire vary from 90 to 145. Most were recent immigrants, either Irish or Scots, many of them young women. A 2002 fictionalization of the disaster recounted: Flames spread rapidly, and now terror of fire threatened those waiting to be saved. Mary Bannon, pinned in the wreckage, handed her pay envelope to the friend comforting her and asked that it get to her father. 'Bid him goodbye for me,' she said, 'You will be saved; I will not'. While Irish and Scots were the majority, the list of the Pemberton Mill's casualties is indicative of New England’s labor force at that time. There were also Yankees from Maine and New Hampshire, immigrants from Germany and Switzerland, and others. All the churches of Lawrence — Baptist, Catholic, Congregationalist, Episcopalian, Methodist, Presbyterian, Unitarian, and Universalist — had parishioners to console after the disaster. Edd Sinnett in Fl. formerly from Lowell,Mass.

Bob, Thanks! _http://www.genealogyintime.com/index.html_ (http://www.genealogyintime.com/index.html) or _http://tinyurl.com/4cuv9xa_ (http://tinyurl.com/4cuv9xa) Joan

jimcrabtree1@sky.com,Donegal,Allsaints,Irwin William,u/k u/k,James,Annie,William,u/k,u/k

Hi, This is a long one ... If you highlight it at the longest end first and work back you should get the whole URL. _http://www.genealogyintime.com/GenealogyResources/NewGenealogyRecords/newes t_genealogy_records_on_the_internet.html?awt_l=8XLo_&awt_m=1bC3kxgsugk.Vy_ (http://www.genealogyintime.com/GenealogyResources/NewGenealogyRecords/newest _genealogy_records_on_the_internet.html?awt_l=8XLo_&awt_m=1bC3kxgsugk.Vy) Joan

Joan, This should make it easier to connect to the link: http://tinyurl.com/4ogyh6s Bob CDN ================ On 15/01/2011 9:19 AM, Dasmi1170@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > This is a long one ... If you highlight it at the longest end first and > work back you should get the whole URL. > _http://www.genealogyintime.com/GenealogyResources/NewGenealogyRecords/newes > t_genealogy_records_on_the_internet.html?awt_l=8XLo_&awt_m=1bC3kxgsugk.Vy_ > (http://www.genealogyintime.com/GenealogyResources/NewGenealogyRecords/newest > _genealogy_records_on_the_internet.html?awt_l=8XLo_&awt_m=1bC3kxgsugk.Vy) > ==================

Done, next issue Bob CDN ============== jimcrabtree1@sky.com,Donegal,Allsaints,Irwin William,u/k u/k,James,Annie,William, ==============

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Hi! This might help a bit - Gortaran is in Clehagh townland, Clonmany parish................its an area in the south portion of the townland, where in 1857, it was rented by - Patrick (Hugh) Gill Patrick (Neal) Gill Neal Gill Neal (James) Gill (land only) I have the map online at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/clehaghmap.jpg One of those Patricks (maybe the Patrick (Neal) one) was the father of your Neal...................Neal Gill, Chemical works labourer, bachelor, 21, living at 10 Mason St, Glasgow, son of Patrick Gill, farmer, and Ellen Doherty, married Bridget Duffy, Cotton ? weaver, spinster, 20, same address, dau of James Duffy, Chemical works labourer and Mary Doherty, 19 Feb 1876 at St Mungo's Chapel, Glasgow. Witnesses Michael Monaghan and Catherine Sheils. Patrick Gill, Gortaran (Clehagh) married Ellen Doherty, Maghermore, 8 Feb 1853 - it looks like Ellen is in the 1901 census for Clehagh as a widow - I have that census online at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901cleaghclonm.htm - check household 5. Neal Gill and Bridget Duffy must have spent some time in Magheranaul before moving to Cloontagh - I have them in household 10 of the 1901 census Cloontagh at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901Cloontagh.htm Anyway, I hope that helps a bit! All the best, Lindel PS well done to Bob who found the other info - made it easy to find the info above in what I had here On 13/01/2011 11:01 a.m., hiflyte wrote: > William, > > Go to Scotlandpeoples.org and do a search. Official BMD/Gensite for > Scotland. > http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ > > Searches are free but you pay for the actual data. > > It is free to register you only have to pay when you want to look at the > images and results. > > It is probably the best place to obtain positive data on the net since > they hold the official registers etc for all of Scotland. > > I did a check and found a reference for one (1) Neal > Gill/Duffy/1876/1876/RC but did not actually see the results it takes, > my credits are locked in since they expired after 90 days, they are > still there but I have to top up my account to use them, you will see > when you read the info on the site. > > The census below show that the children Patrick and Hannah were born in > Scotland, this should answer some of your concerns. > > Also found the following in the 1881 Sct Census > > Dwelling: 7 Bright St > Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203640 GRO Ref Volume 644-3 EnumDist > 84 Page 11 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Neal GILL M 26 M Ireland > Rel: Head > Occ: Labourer Gnl > Bridget GILL M 25 F Ireland > Rel: Wife > Patrick GILL 4 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Son > Hannah GILL 2 F Greenhills, Stirling, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Patrick GILL U 24 M Ireland > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Cal Rly Labourer Gnl > Neal GILL U 26 M Ireland > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Cal Rly Labourer Gnl > Patrick GILL U 20 M Ireland > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Cal Rly Labourer Gnl > > Also check out LIndel's website @: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/ > > Take care > Bob > CDN > ================== > > On 12/01/2011 2:21 PM, williebriney53@aol.co.uk wrote: > Hi Bob > Thanks very much for your email. Yes, these are my family - Neal > Gill (born 23 April 1854& who married Bridget (Biddy) Duffy) was my > great grandfather. ... > I've also recently been told that they may have got married in St Rollox > RC Church, Lanark, Scotland on 19 Feb 1876 - but this is not certain. I > know that they had at least two sons while in Scotland:...I've also been > told that Neal (Neil)& Bridget lived at 10 Mason St, Glasgow in 1876. > What I'd liked to try and find out is whether or not 19/2/1876 is > there actual wedding date and if they had any other children while in > Scotland? ... > =================== > >

Wondering what families John Bustard was researching? Margaret

By _Joan Young_ (mailto:joan@volunteer.rootsweb.com) Are You Building Your Own Brick Walls? It's a new year, a new opportunity to dust off some of your trickiest research issues and take another crack at finding the answers. We all have them--brick walls, impossible to locate ancestors who we swear arrived on a mother ship from Mars and plopped full-grown in the place we first found them leaving no trail or records in their wake. Mind you, these elusive ancestors lived well before the days of the Witness Protection Program. They probably were not spies or secret agents whose identity was changed or hidden. They most likely didn't need protection from the bad guys (or maybe the good guys) despite possible family stories to the contrary. Granted there are occasions where there simply is no evidence to be found for your brick wall ancestor, but there may also be instances where your approach to breaking down the wall may need some fine tuning. Here are a few suggestions for taking a New Year's shot at cracking those long-standing brick walls. 1) If you have only considered that your SMITHs are English expand your horizons if you have no direct proof of ethnicity. Take a look at who your John SMITH married and what community he lived in and his religious affiliation. You may find that John SMITH was originally Johan SCHMIDT. Being locked into assumptions of ethnicity can result in building your own brick wall. 2) Did your Aunt Susie tell you great-grandmother Matilda was a "Cherokee Princess?" Examine anything you can find about Matilda such as census records and place of birth before you run off to check Cherokee records. Even if you don't know Matilda's maiden name, clues such as her birth location could help you establish whether Aunt Susie was on the mark or not. Since Native Americans didn't use titles such as "Princess" the use of this term could be an indication that not everything you were told was completely accurate even if there is a kernel of truth to the story. 3) Have you been accepting the family trees you found online which list no sources for your John SMITH in Arkansas being the same John SMITH who fought for the Union in the Civil War from Maine? Family trees are a great resource, but make sure you personally verify sources for the data you find there. Do not accept online unsourced information at face value. If no sources are given, contact the database submitter, when possible, to learn where they got their facts. Finding multiple trees or messages listing "facts" with no sources is no guarantee of accuracy. Others may simply have copied from the original submitter. 4) Have you given up on finding your SMITH ancestors because you searched everything online and off last year and the year before and found nothing? Thousands of new records are added online and placed in files at your local historical society library (or a society in the area where you first located your SMITHs) every year. Always start off the New Year with a fresh search to see what might have come to light or been digitized since you last checked. The point of all of these suggestions is to keep an open mind, don't jump to conclusions, and while not ignoring family stories and lore, consider other possibilities as well. Follow where the evidence trail leads you rather than leaping to conclusions or jumping at illogical connections. If you do make new discoveries about elusive brick wall ancestors be sure to post them online in an updated family tree, or on a message board or mailing list. Sharing what you have learned will help others and provide them with an opportunity to share any additional data they uncover with you. Happy hunting in 2011! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Reprints Permission to reprint articles from RootsWeb Review is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, provided: 1. the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and 2. the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously published in RootsWeb Review: 12 January 2011, Vol. 14, No. 1