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The Donegal families I am related to left Ireland and went to Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland in the 1830s. I was looking at the 1855 Marriages as that was the first year of mandatory Civil Registration and a lot of questions were asked by the Registrar. That was the ONLY year that many questions were asked, beginning 1856, only about half of the amount of 1855 questions were asked of the Informants. For that gem of a year, not only were the bride and groom identified, their parents were named and the birthplaces of those parents. Many of the 1855 entries showed Donegal as their birthplace. Out of 58 Marriages that year, these 18 had Donegal specifically noted as the birthplace of the bride, groom or either set of parents. It must have taken awhile to begin to record the marriage data in the proper manner, #s 2 and 3 even had the ages of the parents given. Sometimes it was not asked if either the bride or groom had previously married and blanks were encountered for residence and sometimes a parent's name. Would like to think someone will find links to their family names. I now have another to research, its #29, the ALLFORD name is one I've been looking for. #33 ALLAN / MURRAY is the marriage of my own MORROW ancestors. Without this particular Registration, I'd not have known about the links to Donegal, particularly Killymard and Drumholm. These are all recorded digitally and can send 2 JPGs to anyone who finds something of interest here. Each registration covered 2 pages, they wrote left to right across the binding of the book so you have to make 2 snapshots. I have kept spelling as seen and noted in [brackets] anything unusual even if its just a spelling difference. If someone could not write their name, they made an X and it was Witnessed by 1 or 2 people who also signed. I notice many of the Donegal parish names are obviously mis-understood by the local Registrar. Its also past 2am....I'll send corrections if something is not recorded right, the cat does not do my proofing so I can't blame her. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1855 Marriges, Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland : Entry #1 - 12th January, 1855 at the Catholic Church in Lennoxtown. James KILDAY, 30, Labourer usually and currently residing Lennoxtown. Born parish of 'Inishael', county Donegal. Sponsors were George O'DONNELL, Farmer and Mary O'DONNELL. Susan CONOLLY, 22 born Fannet, parish of Donegal. Sponsors were Stephen McLEAN, Farmer and Mary McLEAN. John GILLON, C.C. Witnesses were Cornelius and Isabella KILDAY. Entry #2 - 16th January, 1855 at St. Paul's Catholic Church, Lennoxtown. Church of Rome. John MULRONEY, 23, Collier presently residing Boyd's Land, Milton of Campsie. Born Parish of Inver, Donegal to Hugh MULRENIE, 50, Labourer and Mary FRIEL, 45 parish of Inver, Ireland. Mary McCULLOCH, 20, Printfield Worker [her mark X witnessed by Sarah McCULLOCH]. Born in Ludby, England baptized in Manchester Old Church. Parents were Samuel McCULLOCH, 40, Block Printer and Marthen [odd lettering] ARMSTRONG, 38. John GILLON, R.C.C. Witnesses were Hugh CARNEY and Sarah McCULLOCH. Entry #3 - 26th January, 1855 at Haughhead, Campsie. Church of Scotland. Charles COLTER, 23, Labourer usually and currently residing Campsie. Born Ireland, parish of Inver not registered. Parents were Charles COLTER, Farmer and Margaret GIFFEN. Catherine COLVIN, 23, Bleachfield Worker, usually and currently residing Campsie. Born Parish of Inver, Ireland registered in unreadable parish. Parents were Robert COLVIN, Farmer and Jane COLTER. Thomas MONRO, Minster. Witnesses were Robert APSLEY and James McCREADY. Entry #4 - 2nd February, 1855 at Campsie, Church of Rome. Charles FRIEL, 19, Labourer, bachelor usually and currently residing Kirkintillock, Dumbarton. Born but not registered 1836 in Inver, Donegal to John FRIEL, Labourer and Margaret McCALL Agnes KENNEGHAN, 19, Printfield Worker, spinster usually and currently residing Campsie. Her mark X witnessed by James GOULDIE and John GOLDIE. Born 1836 parish of Inver, Donegal to John KENNICHAN [sic] and [blank]. John GILLON, R.C.C. Witnesses were James GOULDIE and John GOLDIE. Entry #5 - 2nd February at St. Paul's Catholic Church, Lennoxtown. Roman Catholic Church. John McCAHIL, 21, Miner usually and currently residing Campsie. Born parish of Inver, Donegal to Denis McCAHIL, Labourer and Mary MANGHAN. Catherine GILLESPIE, 19, employed at Lennox Mill, her mark X witnessed by James McCAHIL. No residence given. Born Donegal to John GILLESPIE, Shoemaker and Mary McCADAM [sic]. John GILLON, R.C.C. Witnesses were James GILLESPIE and John McCAHIL. Entry #7 - 8th February, 1855 at St. Paul's Catholic Church, Lennoxtown. Roman Catholic Church. Thomas McHUGH, 20, a Collier, bachelor, usually and currently residing Milton of Campsie. Born but not registered Inver, Donegal. Son of Charles McKEW [sic, Farmer deceased and Bridget McIneam? Hanna O'DONNELL, 21, Printfield Worker, spinster, usually and currently residing Campsie. Witnesses to signature were John O'DONNELL and James GOULDIE. Born Parish of Inver, Donegal. Daughter of John O'DONNELL and Bridget THOMAS. John GILLON, RCC. Witnesses were James GOULDIE, and John O'DONNELL. Entry #8 - 9th February, 1855 at St. Paul's Catholic Church, Lennoxtown. Roman Catholic Church. James CAIRNS, 22, Labourer, usually and currently residing Edenkill, Strathblane. Born Parish of Drumholm, Donegal to John CAIRNS, Labourer and Rose SHIELDS. Catherine OWENS, 18, Printfield Worker, spinster, born Dornah, Fermanagh to Michael OWENS, Labourer and Bridget Drum, usually and currently residing Edenkill, Strathblane. Witnesses to signature were Henry McTOAL and Patrick McCORMICK. John GILLON, RCC. Witnesses were Henry McTOAL and Patrick McCORMICK. Entry #11 - 24th April, 1855 at Lennoxtown. Roman Catholic Church. Manus O'DONNELL, 32, an Agricultural Labourer, bachelor, usually and currently residing Kilsyth. Born but not registered March 1823 at Iniskeel, Donegal to Anthony O'DONNELL, Labourer deceased and Catherine O'DONNELL ms BREANEN. Sarah BROWN, 24, spinster usually and currently residing Kilsyth. Witnesses to signature were Andrew DWYER and John MECHAN. Born but not registered 1831 at Glenfin, Donegal to Michael BROWN, Labourer and Margaret BROWN ms McKELLOG. John GILLON, RCC. Witnesses were John MECHAN and Andrew DWYER. Entry #13 - 29 April, 1855 at Lennoxtown. Church of Rome. John O'NEIL, 24, Farm Servant, bachelor usually and currently residing Balglass, Campsie. Born parish of Donain, County Antrim to Daniel O'NEIL, Farmer and Ann DEVELIN. Margaret CALLAGHAN, 24, Bleachfield Worker, spinster usually and currently residing Haughhead, Campsie. Witnesses to signature were Thomas MOORE and Ann DWYER. Born parish of Kilmard, Donegal, to Patrick CALLAGHAN, Farmer and Margaret BOYLE. Entry #21 - June 15, 1855 at Lennoxtown, United Presbyterian Church. James HYNDMAN [witnesses to signature John BELL, smith and John CRAIG, labourer] 24, bachelor, a Coal Miner usually and currently residing Lennoxtown, Campsie. Born Drumholm 4th March, 1831 and registered same place on 6th March, 1831 to James HYNDMAN, Labourer and Ann LOVE. Jane BELL, 24, spinster usually and currently residing Lennoxtown, Campsie. Born 7 April, 1830 at Connar [parish of] Ireland and registered same place 12th April, 1830 to John BULL, Labourer and Agnes RAINEY. William WOOD, Minister of United Presbyterian Church, Campsie. Witnesses were James CRAIG, Labourer and John BELL, smith. Entry #26 - July 13, 1855 at Balgrachan, Campsie. Free Church. James BOND, 25, bachelor, Agricultural Labourer currently and usually residing Garscube, parish of New Kilpatrick. Born but not registered 13th Sept, 1826 at Donnough More, Donegal the son of James BOND, Carter and Agnes BOND ms PATON deceased. Mary DUNLOP, 23, Farm servant, spinster, usually and currently residing Balgrachan, parish of Campsie. Born but not registered 17th Sept, 1832 at Danaan, county Antrim, Ireland to David DUNLOP, Ag Labourer and Agnes DUNLOP ms TONNER. John POLLOCK, Minister of Baldernock Free Church. Witnesses were James FERRIE, Balgrochan and David TAIT Jnr, Clothier in Kirkintilloch. Entry #29 - July 27th at St. Paul's Catholic Church, Lennoxtown. Catholic Church. Richard TEEVEN, 22, Limestone Miner, bachelor usually and currently residing Lennoxtown, Campsie. Witnesses to signature were James TEEVEN and John BOLTON. Born but not registered Co. Fermanagh parish of Ennis Mc Saint March 1832 to John TEEVEN, Farmer deceased and Mary TEEVEN ms McLYNN. Susan McKAY, 22, Printfield Worker, spinster usually and currently residing Lennoxtown, Campsie. Witnesses to signature were James TEEVEN and John BOLTON. Born but not registered Co. Donegal, parish of Allston April 1833 to John McKAY, Farmer deceased and Susan McKAY ms ALLFORD. John GILLON, Catholic Clergyman Lennoxtown. Witnesses were James TEEVEN and John BOLTON. Entry #33 - 10th August, 1855 at Lennoxtown, Campsie. Church of Scotland. George ALLAN, 20 [his mark X witnessed by Thomas MUNRO], a Labourer usually and currently residing Lennoxtown, Campsie. No previous marriages. Born Born parish of Drumhome, Donegal to Joseph ALLAN, Labourer and Bess CRAWFORD. Margaret MURRAY, 29, Worker, [her mark X witnessed by Thomas MUNRO], usually and currently residing Campsie. No previous marriages. Born parish of Tullymead, Donegal to Edward MURRAY, Labourer and Rachel MURRAY. Thomas MUNRO, Minister of Campsie. Witnesses were John BROWN and James MURRAY. [NOTE - These are are direct ancestors of mine, I now know Edward and Rachel MURRAY were both MORROWs in Donegal. A death registration for Rachel's mother, Margaret identified Killymard as her birthplace and MORROW as her maiden surname]. Entry #42 - 14th October, 1855 at St. Paul's Catholic Church, Lennoxtown. Catholic Church. William McGUIRE, 21, Printfield Labourer, bachelor usually and currently residing Milton of Campsie. Born but not registered parish of Inver, Donegal in 1834 to Andrew McGUIRE deceased Mason and Sarah McGUIRE ms MOFFAT. Ann GILLESPIE, 23, Worker in Printwork [her mark X witnessed by James and Hugh GOLDIE], spinster usually and currently residing Milton of Campsie. Born but not registered in the parish of Inver, Donegal 1832 to Dennis GILLESPIE, Printfield Labourer and Bridget GILLESPIE ms FRIEL. John GILLON, Catholic Clergyman Lennoxtown. Witnesses were James and Hugh GOLDIE. Entry #43 - 19th October, 1855 at St. Paul's Catholic Church, Lennoxtown. Catholic Church. John GALLAGHER [his mark X witnessed by James MULHOLLAND and Mary McTOAL], 21, Coal Miner, bachelor usually and currently residing Lennoxtown, Campsie. Born but not registered at Lennoxtown, Campsie to Francis GALLAGHER and Lily MOFFAT. Agnes CALLAGHAN [her mark X witnessed by James MULHOLLAND, Labourer and Mary McTOAL], 21, Bleacher, spinster usually and currently residing Lennoxtown. Born but not registered Co Donegal to Francis CALLAGHAN, Broker and Hellen CONNLY. John GILLON, Catholic Clergyman Lennoxtown. Witnesses were James MULHOLLAND and Mary McTOAL. Entry #45 - 4th November, 1855 at St. Paul's Catholic Church, Lennoxtown. Catholic Church. Charles GOLDIE, 50, bachelor usually and currently residing Milton of Campsie. Born but not registered Donegal Ireland 1805 to Patrick GOLDIE, Printfield Labourer and Margaret GOLDIE ms DEARIE deceased. Mary HAGGARTY [her mark X witnessed by James and Mary GOLDIE], 35, spinster usually and currently residing Milton of Campsie. Born but not registered Donegal, Ireland to Patrick HAGARTY [sic], Housekeeper and Grace HAGGARTY ms McCAFFERTY deceased. John GILLON, Catholic Clergyman, Lennoxtown. Witnesses were James and Mary GOLDIE. Entry #49 - 10th November at St. Paul's Catholic Church, Lennoxtown. Catholic Church. Peter O'NEIL, 28, Labourer,currently residing Mosswater, Kirkintilloch. usually residing 'parish',[ no other placename]. Their marks X witnessed by James and Hugh GOLDIE. Born Hinnis? County Down, Ireland to Bernard O'NEIL, Farmer and Rose FEGAN, Spencir? Ellen HELFERTY, no age given, Spincer ? [this word is not spinster]. Currently residing Mosswater, usually residing Kirkintilloch. Born County Donegal, Ireland to Rodnek [yes, that's what it looks like] HELFERTY and Helen HELFERTY. Signed John GILLON, Catholic Clergyman, Lennoxtown. Witnesses were James and Hugh GOLDIE. Entry #58 - on 31st December at Haughhead, Campsie. Church of Scotland. Harvey McLAY, 26, Boilermaker, no notation of being a bachelor, usually and currently residing Haughhead, Campsie. Born at Drumhome, county Donegal to Adam McLAY, Farmer and Mary PARSON, Housekeeper. Jean RONEY [her mark X witnessed by Thomas MUNRO], 21, Bleachfield Worker, no notation of being a spinster, usually and currently residing Haughhead, Campsie. Born at Bally More county Antrim to William RONEY, Bleacher and Frances ROBISON?, Housekeper. Thomas MONRO, Minister of Campsie. Witnesses were Thomas HERRON and William RONEY. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

Hello Bob. Thank you for posting the links to this article. It is very well-researched and written -- understandable when one reaches the end and reads the biography of its writer. However, I did find his second-last sentence to be unclear. He wrote this: "... Clearly, if the 1926 census were to be released in 2012 the authorities could disclose data for all people born before 1912 ..." This seems to indicate that for anyone who was in that 1926 census, but who was born between 1912 and 1926, they would NOT show their details (presumably until after 2026 when the 100 years rule would apply). I also liked his comment that in 1961 when the 1901 census was opened to the public, being just 50 years after it was taken, "the sky did not fall down" (regarding the disclosures made there about living people). To my mind so much in the "modern" world is very "precious" - and I don't mean that it is worthy of keeping! haha. Thanks again Bob for posting a great article. I will forward it to my other Irish lists -- with full attribution to you for the original posting. Enjoy your Alberta "Family Day": what a nice idea! Regards: Ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "hiflyte" <hiflyte@telus.net> To: "IRL-Donegaleire-L" <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com>; ... Have a read of the following article, it should be of interest to most list members. > > http://tinyurl.com/6b9p287 > or > http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0103/1224286666643.html

Clare, I see your problem, it does look like the Craig Clan has disappeared from Ballintra, Donegal. I did a check of the whole area and could not find any Craigs listed. If you do a check of Craig for "Donegal" a number show up but I could not match any to your John approx 44 years old in 1911. They may have moved out of the County or Country by 1911 or maybe John had died, I did not do a check for Ann Craig. OR the census transcribers could just have missed the family. One would have to see the original sheets for the area and see if they were missed or not transcribed. There is no address via the census to contact the NAI ref such an error, they do have a "Report Error" link for actual records in the DB with errors. I did a check of the NAI and found the following contact information. You may have to contact a general office to find out where the actual email should be sent. What I usually do in such cases is send and email to some office and have them direct it to the proper contacts Seems like a good one to start with: mail@nationalarchives.ie Best I can do at the moment. Bob CDN ================================= On 21/02/2011 10:43 AM, Clare & Dick Brown wrote:<SNIP>...Thanks, Bob. Hope they get 1926 out early. Very interesting article. Have you or any of our fellow researchers run into this problem in the censuses, which really have provided a wealth of information? In 1901 I found John Craig, 34, with wife Annie and 8 children in house #8 in Ballintra, Ballintra, Donegal. ... ==============================

Thanks, Bob. Hope they get 1926 out early. Very interesting article. Have you or any of our fellow researchers run into this problem in the censuses, which really have provided a wealth of information? In 1901 I found John Craig, 34, with wife Annie and 8 children in house #8 in Ballintra, Ballintra, Donegal. There were about 45 houses listed. In 1911 I can find only one house in Ballintra, #1, occupied by 2 Grahams. Where did all the houses go? I can not find my John Craig in 1911 in Ireland. There were 3 more children born to John Craig and Annie (McCabe) after 1901 and before 1911. Actually Mary Agnes (1902), Bernard (1903), and Lily (Elizabeth 1905). The census says errors will be posted as they find them, but I can't find how to tell them that it seems a whole bunch of people are missing. You can correct spelling or dates. I would like to see if they can be found emigrating to (?). Does anyone know best lists of Irish emigrating to England (Lily was married in Birmingham), Australia, or New Brunswick. I know that John did not come to USA from info from my grandmother who was his sister. I also know that John died before 1940 as he is listed as deceased on Elizabeth's Marriage record in Birmingham. I would appreciate any help you can give. Thanks Clare In snowy Massachusetts on Presidents Day. -----Original Message----- From: donegaleire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donegaleire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of hiflyte Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 10:39 AM To: IRL-Donegaleire-L; IRL-Co-Donegal; IRL-Donegal Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Census Returns Hi All, Have a read of the following article, it should be of interest to most list members. http://tinyurl.com/6b9p287 or http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0103/1224286666643.html Here in Alberta it is Family Day, a day off for most. Many other provinces also celebrate the holiday on 21 Feb. The Ski and Toboggan hills will be busy today along with the outdoor and indoor Ice rinks. Have a nice day Bob CDN When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/DONEGALEIRE/ TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=DONEGALEIRE SOME HELPFUL WEBSITES: Donegal Genealogy Resource (Lindel's Site) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ Donegaleire Genealogy Links & Data http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ Bob's Donegal Ireland Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONEGALEIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Have a read of the following article, it should be of interest to most list members. http://tinyurl.com/6b9p287 or http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2011/0103/1224286666643.html Here in Alberta it is Family Day, a day off for most. Many other provinces also celebrate the holiday on 21 Feb. The Ski and Toboggan hills will be busy today along with the outdoor and indoor Ice rinks. Have a nice day Bob CDN

Hi, I am trying to contact Diana Stevens. My GGG Grandfather was Finlay Hay from the townland of Aghadachor. His son Charles (my GG Grandfather ) emigrated to Australia. Hoping you will find this message and contact me - nicoleedwards@westnet.com.au Kind regards Nicole Edwards nee Hays From: "Diana Stevens" < ajstevens2@verizon.net> To: < DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:30 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Re Finlay Hay/Hays > Finlay Hay/Hays lived in the townland of Aghadachor from at least 1827 to > 1869. I am trying to find out more about him and his parents and ancestry. > Also does Carrigart Presbyterian Church have baptism records back in this

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How To Submit Your Research Information to the Database The actual database is a READ ONLY file, you can not directly update the data in it. You must submit your data "as per the instructions" via the Donegaleire mailing list Easiest Way to Input your research names and data. Open a New Email Address it to: DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com Subject Line: New Donegal Researchers Names Copy and Paste the following line of data into the body of your BLANK email, all in one line Your Email Address,PLU,Civil Parish,Townland,Surname and Given,Maiden Name and Given,Child,Child,Child,Child ---- up to 10 kids. Now insert your data BETWEEN the COMMAS No spaces after the commas - other than a space between the Surname/Maiden and Given name. No other details, No dates, no nick names etc. If you DON"T know the information enter "u/k" without the quotes One email for each entry. Email to the Donegal Mailing List -------------------------------------------------- PICKUP THE Latest COPY OF THE DATABASE: You can pick up the latest Donegal Researchers List at: (Red Box). http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/WhatsNew/New.html or http://hiflyte.22web.net/WhatsNew/New.html Just click the box (Red Box)and follow the instructions. --------- Interested in Irish Genealogy : Visit Bob's Genealogy Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/ Visit IGPA's Website: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives Visit: Donegal Genealogy Resources http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/ Visit: Queenscastle http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegaleire/ Bob Cdn ---------------

If anyone is interested in the Spence DNA project, you can see the results on line, click below. Our guy is the Andrew born about 1786 which matches a Jacob (both born Ireland), purple group. (Another man who used a different tester) also matches these two, but his test is not incorporated on FT's page. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Spence/default.aspx?section=yresults If anyone is interested in my take on the whole enchilada at this point (descendants whose ancestors lived in Killymard) I'll get it together. Betty Ashley Betty Ashley

Hamilton in Templecarn Parish: Mary Ann Hamilton was born about 1810. She died May 22, 1870 at the family farm in Cullion, Co Fermanagh. She was married to Alexander Kearns/Cairns about 1825. Their daughter Martha was born in 1826, my great-great grandmother. Strong in Drumholm Parish: As far as I know, I am not related to the Strong family. However, Hugh Strong and his wife Catherine Mills and their daughter Florence boarded in the same apartment with my grandfather & his younger brother, Henry B. and Alexander Dixon, as shown in the 1900 census in New York City. Looking at that census, maybe it was my grandfather Henry who was the boarder. Anyway, it makes me think that they knew each other in the Ballintra area of Drumholm Parish. Henry stayed in the US and married my grandmother, Cassie Elliott of Drumawark. Alexander returned to Ireland, married and raised a family. What I did find interesting as I looked at my database was that Eliza Ann Hamilton was a daughter of William John Hamilton and Mary Ann Campbell. Her parents were John Campbell & Isabella Coleman. John's parents were James Campbell & Jane Saunderson. James' parents were Patrick Campbell & Elizabeth McKeon. But Jane's parents were George Saunderson & Margaret Spence. By now we are back to about 1760 - Patrick is my 3rd great grandfather. - Jane Dixon Anderson > From: andixj@hotmail.com > To: donegaleire-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:57:47 +0000 > Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] FW: Hamilton - Drumholm & Templecarn > > > > > > > > This is very interesting, as I have Strongs in both Drumholm & Templecarn Parishes. Also, my Hamiltons were in Templecarn. Sorry for the teasser - I'm off to work, but I will post more of this tonight. - Jane > > > From: 7jj9800231@tttmaxnet.com > > To: ashleybvm@netptc.net; Donegaleire-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:39:42 +0700 > > Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Hamilton - Drumholm > > > > Betty, > > I have tried unsuccessfully to connect my Killybegs/Glencolumbkille > > Hamiltons to those further south around Drumhome and Pettigo and also have > > Sylvia's excellent Drumhome graveyard book. Also, incidentally, was in > > Donegal in 1987 snooping for family, although further west than you! > > Jane Strong's name stood out to me, as I have a fair bit of info on the > > Strongs from trying to unravel an early Devitt/Strong marriage in > > Templecarne Parish. > > There is much info online from Dave Strong's websites relating to these > > Strongs. > > Looking through my data, I see that your Jane Strong of Aghadowey > > married John Spence of Knockbane at Drumhome Church of Ireland March 26, > > 1840, witnesses James Strong and Hugh (transcribed Sting--I presume Strong), > > minister George Griffith. Fathers of both bride and groom not noted. > > Oddly, 20 years later, in 1860, there is another Jane Strong of Aghadowey > > married to John Ingram for which the fathers are noted, and James Strong was > > also a witness, but don't know if this connected to yours or not. > > I also note births for Jane Strong of Drumhome Parish July 1, 1821, > > parents George Strong and Mary Harron, and also, a Jane Strong of Drumhome > > Parish April 20, 1834, parents Hugh Strong of Aghadowey and Margaret nee?, > > so perhaps this explains the two marriages above. Whoops, I just looked at > > the Jane m. John Ingram, and her father is listed as William, not Hugh. > > Hugh's Jane was married at Killymard in 1858 to William Wray! Jane was a > > popular name with the family! > > You may already have this detail, but thought I would pass it on in case > > you did not. > > > > Jack > > Thailand > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Betty Ashley" <ashleybvm@netptc.net> > > To: <Donegaleire-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:56 AM > > Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Hamilton - Drumholm > > > > > > >I hesitate to mention my vague Hamilton connection in Drumholm. Maybe it > > > will profit someone. Our pioneer ancestors were Andrew Spence born about > > > 1785 from Killymard, (died Norwood Ontario 1850) married Mary Griffith > > > born > > > 1792 Ballinakillew, Donegal, died Stanton NE. > > > > > >>From the names of the children Lettie Morrow said that she felt sure that > > > Andrew Spence was the child of one WILLIAM SPENCE born about 1749 (died 14 > > > June 1791 Carrickbreeny) and BARBARA HAMILTON (died 12 Apr 1786 > > > Carrickbreeny). If this theory is true, Barbara must have died at the > > > time > > > of Andrew's birth. And perhaps he was cared for by Spence relatives in > > > Killymard, making that his home townland. > > > > > > Some of the children named by the descendant in Canada did not come to > > > America. Whether they died or just remained there, we do not know. > > > WILLIAM > > > SPENCE baptized 25 Mar 1821 and BARBARA SPENCE baptized 21 Apr 1824 > > > Drumholm were the only ones named who did not come. The place in the > > > family > > > of JOHN (born about 1818) is not known. > > > > > > The oldest child to come to Canada that year of 1840 was this JOHN SPENCE > > > who had just married JANE STRONG b. 1820 Aghadowey. > > > > > > > > > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/DONEGALEIRE/ > > > > > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=DONEGALEIRE > > > > SOME HELPFUL WEBSITES: > > Donegal Genealogy Resource (Lindel's Site) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > > Donegaleire Genealogy Links & Data > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ > > Bob's Donegal Ireland Genealogy > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONEGALEIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. 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It looks like Betty has not had our book on Killymard which gives the 1821/41/51 census for the parish. The Spence's were married into the Wray family who were my husbands ancestors. Lettie died a couple of years ago but she would not have had this info which surfaced much later and we used it to build up a record of the Killymard families.DRUMSTEVLIN 1821 SPENCE. Jacob [46] Isobel [45] John [22] Elizabeth [19] George [16] Jacob [13] James [10] SPENCE. John [32] Jane Wilson [30] Married 23/3/1819 Dorothy [1 ?] William [22] SPENCE. David [43] Mary [38] Catherine [15] John [11] Susan [6] SPENCE. James [41] Jane [38] William [16] Sarah [10] Andrew [7] James [4] Mary [1 ?] [Present John, Sam, and Lizzie Spence great-grandparents] WRAY. Joseph [35] Barbara [Spence] [35] Lucy [12] Married McClure David [8] USA Mary [6] John [3] died young Barbara [married Billy Spence] Mary [married Robert Williamson, father of Edward] WRAY. William [40] Eleanor [Stewart 28] David [5] Ann [married Williamson.] WRAY. David [76] Lucy [Acheson 60] Alexander [22] Lucy Taylor [Lucy Acheson' s niece 22] William [12] Isaac ?6 months Margaret -----Original Message----- From: donegaleire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donegaleire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of donegaleire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 17 February 2011 08:01 To: donegaleire@rootsweb.com Subject: DONEGALEIRE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 33 TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/DONEGALEIRE/ TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=DONEGALEIRE SOME HELPFUL WEBSITES: Donegal Genealogy Resource (Lindel's Site) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ Donegaleire Genealogy Links & Data http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ Bob's Donegal Ireland Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ Today's Topics: 1. NEW - NEW Donegaleire Research Names Amended (Joe Scott) 2. Hamilton - Drumholm (Betty Ashley) 3. Re: Filling a gap (S. B. Mason) 4. Re: Filling a gap (Jack Devitt) 5. Re: Hamilton - Drumholm (Jack Devitt) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:20:40 -0600 From: "Joe Scott" <ejscott2@cebridge.net> Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] NEW - NEW Donegaleire Research Names Amended To: <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <91CECF693B08476E9F43729CFE445387@ScottPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ejscott2@cebridge.net,Donegal,Donegal,ScottWilliam,u/k,James,Charles,Frank,G eorge,Jane,William,Mary ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:56:37 -0800 From: "Betty Ashley" <ashleybvm@netptc.net> Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Hamilton - Drumholm To: <Donegaleire-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <808800530703468BA1279D28B4A11799@thcookie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I hesitate to mention my vague Hamilton connection in Drumholm. Maybe it will profit someone. Our pioneer ancestors were Andrew Spence born about 1785 from Killymard, (died Norwood Ontario 1850) married Mary Griffith born 1792 Ballinakillew, Donegal, died Stanton NE. >From the names of the children Lettie Morrow said that she felt sure that Andrew Spence was the child of one WILLIAM SPENCE born about 1749 (died 14 June 1791 Carrickbreeny) and BARBARA HAMILTON (died 12 Apr 1786 Carrickbreeny). If this theory is true, Barbara must have died at the time of Andrew's birth. And perhaps he was cared for by Spence relatives in Killymard, making that his home townland. Some of the children named by the descendant in Canada did not come to America. Whether they died or just remained there, we do not know. WILLIAM SPENCE baptized 25 Mar 1821 and BARBARA SPENCE baptized 21 Apr 1824 Drumholm were the only ones named who did not come. The place in the family of JOHN (born about 1818) is not known. The oldest child to come to Canada that year of 1840 was this JOHN SPENCE who had just married JANE STRONG b. 1820 Aghadowey. The following are the notes for the elder William Spence and Barbara Hamilton which make sense to me. I've tried to run it by folks in Ireland, but have come up with no agreement. Drumhome Parish church records and personal input from Lettie Morrow, Church Registrar, 1987. See notes for wife, Barbara Hamilton Spence. Until we saw the Drumholm records and consulted with Lettie we had no clue about parentage of our Andrew Spence who came to Ontario Canada in 1840. !DEATH: Recorded as Barbara Spence (Hamilton) in Sylvia Arkison's Drumholm Graveyard Handbook. !DRUMHOLM RECORDS: Lettie Morrow, record keeper of Drumhome registers, sent this letter to us after our trip to Ballintra in September, 1987. Because there were several Andrew Spences recorded in the registers, born around 1790, we were completely confused. Here is a transcription of her letter stating her take on our Spence family. Our family records go back in Canada concern ANDREW & MARY GRIFFITH SPENCE who came from Ballintra in 1840. BARBARA SPENCE Carrickbreeny wife of WILLIAM SPENCE buried 12th April 1786 WILLIAM SPENCE Carrickbreeny buried 14th June 1791, children: HUGH SPENCE Carrickbreeny (F) WILLIAM SPENCE, married 25th Jan 1798 JANE HARRON - - (F) ANDREW HARRON, children: WILLIAM bapt 3rd March 1799, HAMILTON - 23 rd May 1801, ANDREW - 2nd Nov 1803 WILLIAM HARRON Carrick West (F) ANDREW HARRON, married JANE SPENCE Carrickbreeny (F) WILLIAM SPENCE married 30th June 1791, children: BARBARA bapt 14 Aug 1792, JANE - 23 Aug 1795, ISABELLA - 12th June 1798, MARY- 14th April 1801, WILLIAM - 4th Jan 1804 GEORGE SANDERSON Ballydermott (F) JAMES SANDERSON, MARGARET SPENCE Carrickbreeny (F) WILLIAM SPENCE, married 22nd Jan 1788, children: JAMES bapt 9th 1788, WILLIAM - 12th May 1790, BARBARA - 17th Nov 1793, JOSEPH - 15 May 1796, JANE - 16th Sept 1798, GEORGE - 28th March 1801 MARGARET SPENCE wife of GEORGE SANDERSON Ballydermott buried 11th Jan 1803 GEORGE SANDERSON Ballydermott buried 4th Nov 1811 ANDREW SPENCE **Parish of Killymard* married 9th Oct 1816 MARY GRIFFITH Parish of Drumholm, children: JOHN - (Lettie did not indicate date of birth or baptism) WILLIAM bapt 25th March 1821, BARBARA - 21st April 1824, HAMILTON - 16th Jan 1826, JAMES - 7th Dec 1828, SAMUEL - 20th Nov 1831, MARY - 3rd Aug 1834, ANDREW - 16th July 1837, JANE - June 1838 (Lettie's Remarks) William & Barbara Spence Carrickbreeny would be the father and mother of Hugh, James, Margaret, & Andrew as they have all got William & Barbara in their family's Hugh & Andrew have Hamilton their mother's maiden name The only conclusion I come to is that Andrew could be working in Killymard and then came back & married Mary Griffith and bought a farm in Knockbane (we will never know) I asked Canon Stewart if I could see the Killymard Church records. he told me that the old records were sent to Dublin and were all destroyed the ones he has got only go back as far as 1870 I went through all the burials in our books only got the ones I have listed In those times children were called for their grandparents so I hope this makes sense to you. Carrickbreeny is not far from where I live and close to Knockbane. Betty Ashley, Tollhouse CA Spence Family. Any discussion will be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:24:58 -0700 From: "S. B. Mason" <sbmasonaz@cox.net> Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap To: donegaleire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <7D5A3F07-677F-4323-8A65-D48724CDD6D6@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:01:12 +0700 > From: "Jack Devitt" <7jj9800231@tttmaxnet.com> > Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap > To: "Joe H." <donwin4@yahoo.com>, <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <9720516E77BA4357B6D6C2D39C03664A@nzn158729372c9> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > ... > As Bob said, the parish and townland is critical, as is > religion. Mine > were Protestants, but the Hamiltons to the north around Strabane, > Tyrone and > across the river into Donegal started out as Catholic, and all from > Scotland. ... > Good luck! > Jack Devitt > Thailand Just wanted to make a quick response to this portion of Jack's message: The Archdeaconry of Raphoe was held 98 years consecutively by person of the name of HAMILTON, by: James Hamilton 1675-90, Andrew Hamilton 1690-1754, John Hamilton 1754-57, Frederick Hamilton 1757-72. These were NOT Catholic but, rather, were Church of Ireland. James' father, Andrew, was also a Church of Ireland pastor in Donegal and Tyrone. I don't know Andrew's birthplace (1613-aft 1680) but James was born at Mountgavelin (Co. Donegal) in 1638. Sara Bradley Mason ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 06:22:53 +0700 From: "Jack Devitt" <7jj9800231@tttmaxnet.com> Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap To: "S. B. Mason" <sbmasonaz@cox.net>, <donegaleire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <6DE967056B484D6B9D64A337362193BF@nzn158729372c9> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Right you are on the Church of Ireland Hamiltons; however, I just wanted to point out that the Dukes of Abercorn, who had the extensive Abercorn estates, were Hamilton and Catholic, so there are both to be found in the county. Jack Thailand ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. B. Mason" <sbmasonaz@cox.net> To: <donegaleire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap >> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:01:12 +0700 >> From: "Jack Devitt" <7jj9800231@tttmaxnet.com> >> Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap >> To: "Joe H." <donwin4@yahoo.com>, <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <9720516E77BA4357B6D6C2D39C03664A@nzn158729372c9> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> ... > >> As Bob said, the parish and townland is critical, as is >> religion. Mine >> were Protestants, but the Hamiltons to the north around Strabane, >> Tyrone and >> across the river into Donegal started out as Catholic, and all from >> Scotland. > ... >> Good luck! >> Jack Devitt >> Thailand > > Just wanted to make a quick response to this portion of Jack's > message: The Archdeaconry of Raphoe was held 98 years consecutively by > person of the name of HAMILTON, by: James Hamilton 1675-90, Andrew > Hamilton 1690-1754, John Hamilton 1754-57, Frederick Hamilton 1757-72. > These were NOT Catholic but, rather, were Church of Ireland. James' > father, Andrew, was also a Church of Ireland pastor in Donegal and > Tyrone. I don't know Andrew's birthplace (1613-aft 1680) but James was > born at Mountgavelin (Co. Donegal) in 1638. > > Sara Bradley Mason ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:39:42 +0700 From: "Jack Devitt" <7jj9800231@tttmaxnet.com> Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Hamilton - Drumholm To: "Betty Ashley" <ashleybvm@netptc.net>, <Donegaleire-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E54A2B1E96564BDFBC5AAFDC335459B2@nzn158729372c9> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Betty, I have tried unsuccessfully to connect my Killybegs/Glencolumbkille Hamiltons to those further south around Drumhome and Pettigo and also have Sylvia's excellent Drumhome graveyard book. Also, incidentally, was in Donegal in 1987 snooping for family, although further west than you! Jane Strong's name stood out to me, as I have a fair bit of info on the Strongs from trying to unravel an early Devitt/Strong marriage in Templecarne Parish. There is much info online from Dave Strong's websites relating to these Strongs. Looking through my data, I see that your Jane Strong of Aghadowey married John Spence of Knockbane at Drumhome Church of Ireland March 26, 1840, witnesses James Strong and Hugh (transcribed Sting--I presume Strong), minister George Griffith. Fathers of both bride and groom not noted. Oddly, 20 years later, in 1860, there is another Jane Strong of Aghadowey married to John Ingram for which the fathers are noted, and James Strong was also a witness, but don't know if this connected to yours or not. I also note births for Jane Strong of Drumhome Parish July 1, 1821, parents George Strong and Mary Harron, and also, a Jane Strong of Drumhome Parish April 20, 1834, parents Hugh Strong of Aghadowey and Margaret nee?, so perhaps this explains the two marriages above. Whoops, I just looked at the Jane m. John Ingram, and her father is listed as William, not Hugh. Hugh's Jane was married at Killymard in 1858 to William Wray! Jane was a popular name with the family! You may already have this detail, but thought I would pass it on in case you did not. Jack Thailand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Ashley" <ashleybvm@netptc.net> To: <Donegaleire-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:56 AM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Hamilton - Drumholm >I hesitate to mention my vague Hamilton connection in Drumholm. Maybe it > will profit someone. Our pioneer ancestors were Andrew Spence born about > 1785 from Killymard, (died Norwood Ontario 1850) married Mary Griffith > born > 1792 Ballinakillew, Donegal, died Stanton NE. > >>From the names of the children Lettie Morrow said that she felt sure that > Andrew Spence was the child of one WILLIAM SPENCE born about 1749 (died 14 > June 1791 Carrickbreeny) and BARBARA HAMILTON (died 12 Apr 1786 > Carrickbreeny). If this theory is true, Barbara must have died at the > time > of Andrew's birth. And perhaps he was cared for by Spence relatives in > Killymard, making that his home townland. > > Some of the children named by the descendant in Canada did not come to > America. Whether they died or just remained there, we do not know. > WILLIAM > SPENCE baptized 25 Mar 1821 and BARBARA SPENCE baptized 21 Apr 1824 > Drumholm were the only ones named who did not come. The place in the > family > of JOHN (born about 1818) is not known. > > The oldest child to come to Canada that year of 1840 was this JOHN SPENCE > who had just married JANE STRONG b. 1820 Aghadowey. > ------------------------------ To contact the DONEGALEIRE list administrator, send an email to DONEGALEIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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In response to Margaret today: It looks like Betty has not had our book on Killymard which gives the 1821/41/51 census for the parish. The Spence's were married into the Wray family who were my husbands ancestors. Lettie died a couple of years ago but she would not have had this info which surfaced much later and we used it to build up a record of the Killymard families.DRUMSTEVLIN 1821 Dear Donegaliere Posters, Glad to hear about some of my families. Margaret, I do have your Killymard book. I did write to you soon after receiving it with my rendition of my Spences in relationship to the Killymard folk. You answered with a quick note that my reply was confusing, so I was off on another tangent by that time! I wrote today of my lengthy take on the subject but seem to have lost it into the ether. I have melded all my Spence information into a nice story, all people descending from John Spence and Dorothy Mount, but need to run it all by you for your critic. Yes, I think my William and Barbara (born around 1816 or so fit in with your Wrays, but will have my techie son see if he can figure out what happened to my response so that I don't have to do it all over again. Betty, Tollhouse CA

This is very interesting, as I have Strongs in both Drumholm & Templecarn Parishes. Also, my Hamiltons were in Templecarn. Sorry for the teasser - I'm off to work, but I will post more of this tonight. - Jane > From: 7jj9800231@tttmaxnet.com > To: ashleybvm@netptc.net; Donegaleire-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:39:42 +0700 > Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Hamilton - Drumholm > > Betty, > I have tried unsuccessfully to connect my Killybegs/Glencolumbkille > Hamiltons to those further south around Drumhome and Pettigo and also have > Sylvia's excellent Drumhome graveyard book. Also, incidentally, was in > Donegal in 1987 snooping for family, although further west than you! > Jane Strong's name stood out to me, as I have a fair bit of info on the > Strongs from trying to unravel an early Devitt/Strong marriage in > Templecarne Parish. > There is much info online from Dave Strong's websites relating to these > Strongs. > Looking through my data, I see that your Jane Strong of Aghadowey > married John Spence of Knockbane at Drumhome Church of Ireland March 26, > 1840, witnesses James Strong and Hugh (transcribed Sting--I presume Strong), > minister George Griffith. Fathers of both bride and groom not noted. > Oddly, 20 years later, in 1860, there is another Jane Strong of Aghadowey > married to John Ingram for which the fathers are noted, and James Strong was > also a witness, but don't know if this connected to yours or not. > I also note births for Jane Strong of Drumhome Parish July 1, 1821, > parents George Strong and Mary Harron, and also, a Jane Strong of Drumhome > Parish April 20, 1834, parents Hugh Strong of Aghadowey and Margaret nee?, > so perhaps this explains the two marriages above. Whoops, I just looked at > the Jane m. John Ingram, and her father is listed as William, not Hugh. > Hugh's Jane was married at Killymard in 1858 to William Wray! Jane was a > popular name with the family! > You may already have this detail, but thought I would pass it on in case > you did not. > > Jack > Thailand > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Ashley" <ashleybvm@netptc.net> > To: <Donegaleire-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:56 AM > Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Hamilton - Drumholm > > > >I hesitate to mention my vague Hamilton connection in Drumholm. Maybe it > > will profit someone. Our pioneer ancestors were Andrew Spence born about > > 1785 from Killymard, (died Norwood Ontario 1850) married Mary Griffith > > born > > 1792 Ballinakillew, Donegal, died Stanton NE. > > > >>From the names of the children Lettie Morrow said that she felt sure that > > Andrew Spence was the child of one WILLIAM SPENCE born about 1749 (died 14 > > June 1791 Carrickbreeny) and BARBARA HAMILTON (died 12 Apr 1786 > > Carrickbreeny). If this theory is true, Barbara must have died at the > > time > > of Andrew's birth. And perhaps he was cared for by Spence relatives in > > Killymard, making that his home townland. > > > > Some of the children named by the descendant in Canada did not come to > > America. Whether they died or just remained there, we do not know. > > WILLIAM > > SPENCE baptized 25 Mar 1821 and BARBARA SPENCE baptized 21 Apr 1824 > > Drumholm were the only ones named who did not come. The place in the > > family > > of JOHN (born about 1818) is not known. > > > > The oldest child to come to Canada that year of 1840 was this JOHN SPENCE > > who had just married JANE STRONG b. 1820 Aghadowey. > > > > > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/DONEGALEIRE/ > > > TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=DONEGALEIRE > > SOME HELPFUL WEBSITES: > Donegal Genealogy Resource (Lindel's Site) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > Donegaleire Genealogy Links & Data > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ > Bob's Donegal Ireland Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONEGALEIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty, I have tried unsuccessfully to connect my Killybegs/Glencolumbkille Hamiltons to those further south around Drumhome and Pettigo and also have Sylvia's excellent Drumhome graveyard book. Also, incidentally, was in Donegal in 1987 snooping for family, although further west than you! Jane Strong's name stood out to me, as I have a fair bit of info on the Strongs from trying to unravel an early Devitt/Strong marriage in Templecarne Parish. There is much info online from Dave Strong's websites relating to these Strongs. Looking through my data, I see that your Jane Strong of Aghadowey married John Spence of Knockbane at Drumhome Church of Ireland March 26, 1840, witnesses James Strong and Hugh (transcribed Sting--I presume Strong), minister George Griffith. Fathers of both bride and groom not noted. Oddly, 20 years later, in 1860, there is another Jane Strong of Aghadowey married to John Ingram for which the fathers are noted, and James Strong was also a witness, but don't know if this connected to yours or not. I also note births for Jane Strong of Drumhome Parish July 1, 1821, parents George Strong and Mary Harron, and also, a Jane Strong of Drumhome Parish April 20, 1834, parents Hugh Strong of Aghadowey and Margaret nee?, so perhaps this explains the two marriages above. Whoops, I just looked at the Jane m. John Ingram, and her father is listed as William, not Hugh. Hugh's Jane was married at Killymard in 1858 to William Wray! Jane was a popular name with the family! You may already have this detail, but thought I would pass it on in case you did not. Jack Thailand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Ashley" <ashleybvm@netptc.net> To: <Donegaleire-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:56 AM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Hamilton - Drumholm >I hesitate to mention my vague Hamilton connection in Drumholm. Maybe it > will profit someone. Our pioneer ancestors were Andrew Spence born about > 1785 from Killymard, (died Norwood Ontario 1850) married Mary Griffith > born > 1792 Ballinakillew, Donegal, died Stanton NE. > >>From the names of the children Lettie Morrow said that she felt sure that > Andrew Spence was the child of one WILLIAM SPENCE born about 1749 (died 14 > June 1791 Carrickbreeny) and BARBARA HAMILTON (died 12 Apr 1786 > Carrickbreeny). If this theory is true, Barbara must have died at the > time > of Andrew's birth. And perhaps he was cared for by Spence relatives in > Killymard, making that his home townland. > > Some of the children named by the descendant in Canada did not come to > America. Whether they died or just remained there, we do not know. > WILLIAM > SPENCE baptized 25 Mar 1821 and BARBARA SPENCE baptized 21 Apr 1824 > Drumholm were the only ones named who did not come. The place in the > family > of JOHN (born about 1818) is not known. > > The oldest child to come to Canada that year of 1840 was this JOHN SPENCE > who had just married JANE STRONG b. 1820 Aghadowey. >

Right you are on the Church of Ireland Hamiltons; however, I just wanted to point out that the Dukes of Abercorn, who had the extensive Abercorn estates, were Hamilton and Catholic, so there are both to be found in the county. Jack Thailand ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. B. Mason" <sbmasonaz@cox.net> To: <donegaleire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap >> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:01:12 +0700 >> From: "Jack Devitt" <7jj9800231@tttmaxnet.com> >> Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap >> To: "Joe H." <donwin4@yahoo.com>, <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <9720516E77BA4357B6D6C2D39C03664A@nzn158729372c9> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> ... > >> As Bob said, the parish and townland is critical, as is >> religion. Mine >> were Protestants, but the Hamiltons to the north around Strabane, >> Tyrone and >> across the river into Donegal started out as Catholic, and all from >> Scotland. > ... >> Good luck! >> Jack Devitt >> Thailand > > Just wanted to make a quick response to this portion of Jack's > message: The Archdeaconry of Raphoe was held 98 years consecutively by > person of the name of HAMILTON, by: James Hamilton 1675-90, Andrew > Hamilton 1690-1754, John Hamilton 1754-57, Frederick Hamilton 1757-72. > These were NOT Catholic but, rather, were Church of Ireland. James' > father, Andrew, was also a Church of Ireland pastor in Donegal and > Tyrone. I don't know Andrew's birthplace (1613-aft 1680) but James was > born at Mountgavelin (Co. Donegal) in 1638. > > Sara Bradley Mason

> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:01:12 +0700 > From: "Jack Devitt" <7jj9800231@tttmaxnet.com> > Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap > To: "Joe H." <donwin4@yahoo.com>, <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <9720516E77BA4357B6D6C2D39C03664A@nzn158729372c9> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > ... > As Bob said, the parish and townland is critical, as is > religion. Mine > were Protestants, but the Hamiltons to the north around Strabane, > Tyrone and > across the river into Donegal started out as Catholic, and all from > Scotland. ... > Good luck! > Jack Devitt > Thailand Just wanted to make a quick response to this portion of Jack's message: The Archdeaconry of Raphoe was held 98 years consecutively by person of the name of HAMILTON, by: James Hamilton 1675-90, Andrew Hamilton 1690-1754, John Hamilton 1754-57, Frederick Hamilton 1757-72. These were NOT Catholic but, rather, were Church of Ireland. James' father, Andrew, was also a Church of Ireland pastor in Donegal and Tyrone. I don't know Andrew's birthplace (1613-aft 1680) but James was born at Mountgavelin (Co. Donegal) in 1638. Sara Bradley Mason

Checked for Hamilton's in Donegal Parish and Killymard and no records of this family in either. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: donegaleire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donegaleire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of donegaleire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 16 February 2011 08:01 To: donegaleire@rootsweb.com Subject: DONEGALEIRE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 31 TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/DONEGALEIRE/ TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=DONEGALEIRE SOME HELPFUL WEBSITES: Donegal Genealogy Resource (Lindel's Site) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ Donegaleire Genealogy Links & Data http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ Bob's Donegal Ireland Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ Today's Topics: 1. Filling a gap (Joe H.) 2. Re: Hamilton in Donegal (hiflyte) 3. Re: Filling a gap (Jack Devitt) 4. returned mail ? Hamilton (Whitehart44@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:19:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe H." <donwin4@yahoo.com> Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap To: DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <385502.94882.qm@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have traced my family (Hamilton) back to to the 1830's in Donegal, Ireland Joseph d:27 Apr 1863 his son James, b:1830, d:1903 Joseph had two brothers : David, d: 18 Jan 1865 & James, d:11 Nov 1861, also sister Catherine, d: 29 Oct 1859 I haven't been able find out much beyond that. A family member (who?) once claimed there was a connection to the James Hamilton that was part of the Ulster Plantation along with Hugh Montgomery in the early 1700's How would I go about attempting to fill that gap. Any and all help appreciated. Joseph Hamilton ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:31:14 -0700 From: hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net> Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Hamilton in Donegal To: donegaleire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D5AB862.1070305@telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Joe, Do you know in what area of Donegal they lived, died? Do you know the maiden names of the mothers/wives from Ireland? Civil Registration started in 1864 for Ireland. Marriages for Non Catholics, meaning CofI and some others in 1845. Therefore any (if they registered them) BMD after 1864 should be in the Registers for Ireland. The surname Hamilton is very common and will present some problems without knowing the Parish. The best place to start is always in your backyard and check the BMD data of all those who immigrated. These docs may give up a place of birth (other than Donegal Ireland), the local marriage certs may give the names of the father and mother in Ireland. Familysearch website pages: (tinyURLs) Bapt, Deaths, Marriages and Civil Registration http://tinyurl.com/4f3weza Did they die in Ireland, where they married in Ireland. Did a check for the death of David since it was in 1865 but unable to come up with a hit. I would visit my local FHC and review the Index films for your people. There are many Hamiltons in Donegal during the GV recording period so we need a Parish/Townland. but only one Joesph Hamilton shows up in Donegal http://tinyurl.com/6xxk2p3 Hamilton, Joesph Donegal Drumhome Village of Laghy If you check the RootsIreland.ie Donegal site you will get hits on some names that match the dates eg. James Hamilton 1830: 10 Bapt/Birth matches but only one with father Joesph 1830 ?2 yrs. Church Baptism Hamilton James 1829 Co. Donegal http://donegal.rootsireland.ie/quis.php?page=0&prevStartQuery=0 You will have to register to use the account, Free to Search, Pay to View the actual images and it is not cheap. The search can get you in the ball park. There is another person on our list looking for Hamiltons in Donegal, download the db at the following URL http://tinyurl.com/5h3k83 Instructions are listed on the page --Red Box and instructions just below the Red Box. Lots of luck Have a great day Bob CDN ========================= On 15/02/2011 9:19 AM, Joe H. wrote: > I have traced my family (Hamilton) back to to the 1830's in Donegal, Ireland > Joseph d:27 Apr 1863 his son James, b:1830, d:1903 > Joseph had two brothers : David, d: 18 Jan 1865& James, d:11 Nov 1861, also > sister Catherine, d: 29 Oct 1859 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:01:12 +0700 From: "Jack Devitt" <7jj9800231@tttmaxnet.com> Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap To: "Joe H." <donwin4@yahoo.com>, <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <9720516E77BA4357B6D6C2D39C03664A@nzn158729372c9> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Joe, I am one of those on Bob's list also searching for Donegal Hamiltons, and agree with all his comments, and then some regarding the difficulties of sorting them out. They came to Donegal and other Ulster counties in the 1600's and seemed to have proliferated immensely. I have been searching for details on the family of my GG Grandmother Margaret (Peggy) Hamilton, married to William Devitt in Killybegs Upper parish around 1839, and died 1847 after three children, Frederick, William, and Margaret. She is buried in old St. Catherine's graveyard at Killybegs. She first married William Stephenson, a Revenue Policeman stationed in Killybegs, in 1822 and they had two children. He was killed when his horse "fell off a cliff with him on it". She is said to have been the daughter of Andrew Hamilton of Malinmore, Glencolumbkille Parish, whose family intermarried with the Greenlaws, perhaps of both Malinmore and Killybegs. Her brother is known to have been James Hamilton, captain of the brigantine "Blanch of Donegal", which is known to have made crossings to St. Johns, NB, Canada, and Quebec City. Have never been able to find particulars on James, as the name is so common. Margaret is also said to have had at least a couple of sisters, details unknown. Been searching for +30 years, and, even with the above, which I started with from family records, have not been able to connect her with any of the numerous Hamilton families in the area. As Bob said, the parish and townland is critical, as is religion. Mine were Protestants, but the Hamiltons to the north around Strabane, Tyrone and across the river into Donegal started out as Catholic, and all from Scotland. Records are sparse in the first half of the 1800's, but, if yours are connected to one of the larger and prosperous (perhaps half a dozen in Donegal) family groups, there is info available in the way of estate records and even a few published books. Good luck! Jack Devitt Thailand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe H." <donwin4@yahoo.com> To: <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:19 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap >I have traced my family (Hamilton) back to to the 1830's in Donegal, >Ireland > Joseph d:27 Apr 1863 his son James, b:1830, d:1903 > Joseph had two brothers : David, d: 18 Jan 1865 & James, d:11 Nov 1861, > also > sister Catherine, d: 29 Oct 1859 > > I haven't been able find out much beyond that. A family member (who?) > once > claimed there was a connection to the James Hamilton that was part of the > Ulster Plantation along with Hugh Montgomery in the early 1700's How would > I go > about attempting to fill that gap. Any and all help appreciated. Joseph > Hamilton > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:44:57 EST From: Whitehart44@aol.com Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] returned mail ? Hamilton To: donegaleire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <a5f56.96e169.3a8c5be9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am trying to connect with the subsciber who is researching Hamiltons of Killybegs Donegal but my mail is returned unknown address, can he please contact me ? i have _7ii9800231@ttmaxnet.com_ (mailto:7ii9800231@ttmaxnet.com) J McPherson ------------------------------ To contact the DONEGALEIRE list administrator, send an email to DONEGALEIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the DONEGALEIRE mailing list, send an email to DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONEGALEIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DONEGALEIRE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 31 ******************************************

Re Hamilton Have gone through all the records of Drumholm, early Killybegs and mid 19th century Inver/Killaghtee. No Joseph in any of them and I found one David in Drumholm born late 1700s. More info could perhaps find the parents as sometimes not all children were registered, Margaret -----Original Message----- From: donegaleire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donegaleire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of donegaleire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 16 February 2011 08:01 To: donegaleire@rootsweb.com Subject: DONEGALEIRE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 31 TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY SUBJECT, GO TO THE THREADED ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/DONEGALEIRE/ TO VIEW PREVIOUS EMAILS BY DATES AND SUBJECT GO TO THE SEARCHABLE ARCHIVES AT http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search?path=DONEGALEIRE SOME HELPFUL WEBSITES: Donegal Genealogy Resource (Lindel's Site) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ Donegaleire Genealogy Links & Data http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ Bob's Donegal Ireland Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ Today's Topics: 1. Filling a gap (Joe H.) 2. Re: Hamilton in Donegal (hiflyte) 3. Re: Filling a gap (Jack Devitt) 4. returned mail ? Hamilton (Whitehart44@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:19:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe H." <donwin4@yahoo.com> Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap To: DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <385502.94882.qm@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have traced my family (Hamilton) back to to the 1830's in Donegal, Ireland Joseph d:27 Apr 1863 his son James, b:1830, d:1903 Joseph had two brothers : David, d: 18 Jan 1865 & James, d:11 Nov 1861, also sister Catherine, d: 29 Oct 1859 I haven't been able find out much beyond that. A family member (who?) once claimed there was a connection to the James Hamilton that was part of the Ulster Plantation along with Hugh Montgomery in the early 1700's How would I go about attempting to fill that gap. Any and all help appreciated. Joseph Hamilton ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:31:14 -0700 From: hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net> Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Hamilton in Donegal To: donegaleire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4D5AB862.1070305@telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Joe, Do you know in what area of Donegal they lived, died? Do you know the maiden names of the mothers/wives from Ireland? Civil Registration started in 1864 for Ireland. Marriages for Non Catholics, meaning CofI and some others in 1845. Therefore any (if they registered them) BMD after 1864 should be in the Registers for Ireland. The surname Hamilton is very common and will present some problems without knowing the Parish. The best place to start is always in your backyard and check the BMD data of all those who immigrated. These docs may give up a place of birth (other than Donegal Ireland), the local marriage certs may give the names of the father and mother in Ireland. Familysearch website pages: (tinyURLs) Bapt, Deaths, Marriages and Civil Registration http://tinyurl.com/4f3weza Did they die in Ireland, where they married in Ireland. Did a check for the death of David since it was in 1865 but unable to come up with a hit. I would visit my local FHC and review the Index films for your people. There are many Hamiltons in Donegal during the GV recording period so we need a Parish/Townland. but only one Joesph Hamilton shows up in Donegal http://tinyurl.com/6xxk2p3 Hamilton, Joesph Donegal Drumhome Village of Laghy If you check the RootsIreland.ie Donegal site you will get hits on some names that match the dates eg. James Hamilton 1830: 10 Bapt/Birth matches but only one with father Joesph 1830 ?2 yrs. Church Baptism Hamilton James 1829 Co. Donegal http://donegal.rootsireland.ie/quis.php?page=0&prevStartQuery=0 You will have to register to use the account, Free to Search, Pay to View the actual images and it is not cheap. The search can get you in the ball park. There is another person on our list looking for Hamiltons in Donegal, download the db at the following URL http://tinyurl.com/5h3k83 Instructions are listed on the page --Red Box and instructions just below the Red Box. Lots of luck Have a great day Bob CDN ========================= On 15/02/2011 9:19 AM, Joe H. wrote: > I have traced my family (Hamilton) back to to the 1830's in Donegal, Ireland > Joseph d:27 Apr 1863 his son James, b:1830, d:1903 > Joseph had two brothers : David, d: 18 Jan 1865& James, d:11 Nov 1861, also > sister Catherine, d: 29 Oct 1859 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:01:12 +0700 From: "Jack Devitt" <7jj9800231@tttmaxnet.com> Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap To: "Joe H." <donwin4@yahoo.com>, <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <9720516E77BA4357B6D6C2D39C03664A@nzn158729372c9> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Joe, I am one of those on Bob's list also searching for Donegal Hamiltons, and agree with all his comments, and then some regarding the difficulties of sorting them out. They came to Donegal and other Ulster counties in the 1600's and seemed to have proliferated immensely. I have been searching for details on the family of my GG Grandmother Margaret (Peggy) Hamilton, married to William Devitt in Killybegs Upper parish around 1839, and died 1847 after three children, Frederick, William, and Margaret. She is buried in old St. Catherine's graveyard at Killybegs. She first married William Stephenson, a Revenue Policeman stationed in Killybegs, in 1822 and they had two children. He was killed when his horse "fell off a cliff with him on it". She is said to have been the daughter of Andrew Hamilton of Malinmore, Glencolumbkille Parish, whose family intermarried with the Greenlaws, perhaps of both Malinmore and Killybegs. Her brother is known to have been James Hamilton, captain of the brigantine "Blanch of Donegal", which is known to have made crossings to St. Johns, NB, Canada, and Quebec City. Have never been able to find particulars on James, as the name is so common. Margaret is also said to have had at least a couple of sisters, details unknown. Been searching for +30 years, and, even with the above, which I started with from family records, have not been able to connect her with any of the numerous Hamilton families in the area. As Bob said, the parish and townland is critical, as is religion. Mine were Protestants, but the Hamiltons to the north around Strabane, Tyrone and across the river into Donegal started out as Catholic, and all from Scotland. Records are sparse in the first half of the 1800's, but, if yours are connected to one of the larger and prosperous (perhaps half a dozen in Donegal) family groups, there is info available in the way of estate records and even a few published books. Good luck! Jack Devitt Thailand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe H." <donwin4@yahoo.com> To: <DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:19 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Filling a gap >I have traced my family (Hamilton) back to to the 1830's in Donegal, >Ireland > Joseph d:27 Apr 1863 his son James, b:1830, d:1903 > Joseph had two brothers : David, d: 18 Jan 1865 & James, d:11 Nov 1861, > also > sister Catherine, d: 29 Oct 1859 > > I haven't been able find out much beyond that. A family member (who?) > once > claimed there was a connection to the James Hamilton that was part of the > Ulster Plantation along with Hugh Montgomery in the early 1700's How would > I go > about attempting to fill that gap. Any and all help appreciated. Joseph > Hamilton > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:44:57 EST From: Whitehart44@aol.com Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] returned mail ? Hamilton To: donegaleire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <a5f56.96e169.3a8c5be9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am trying to connect with the subsciber who is researching Hamiltons of Killybegs Donegal but my mail is returned unknown address, can he please contact me ? i have _7ii9800231@ttmaxnet.com_ (mailto:7ii9800231@ttmaxnet.com) J McPherson ------------------------------ To contact the DONEGALEIRE list administrator, send an email to DONEGALEIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the DONEGALEIRE mailing list, send an email to DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONEGALEIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DONEGALEIRE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 31 ******************************************