This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_0SYE0Z7gl3HqwD3NyoWJTA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Where did John Love, husband of Margaret Flemming live in the U.S. I have Love famlies who went to Coshocton Co., OH early 1800 from Co. Donegal! --Boundary_(ID_0SYE0Z7gl3HqwD3NyoWJTA) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT DONEGALEIRE-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 150 Today's Topics: #1 [DONEGAL] URL for OLD CURRENCY, WA [Bob <hiflyte@telus.net>] #2 [DONEGAL] Love and Fleming ["Rob D" <robertdoragh@hotmail.com>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from DONEGALEIRE-D, send a message to DONEGALEIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. If you aren't unsubscribed, try the same method using the following address DONEGALEIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_0SYE0Z7gl3HqwD3NyoWJTA) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:18:28 -0600 From: Bob <hiflyte@telus.net> Subject: [DONEGAL] URL for OLD CURRENCY, WAGES ETC. To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <3F67D284.1030501@telus.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Message: #1 List Members, Cross Post Message. Here is a URL for OLD currency .. It will answer many of the questions related to wages, old currency and should be of interest to most of us on the Lists. http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/current/howmuch.html Bob Cdn - -------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: > [IRELAND] c. 1800 currency > ><SNIP> > ... In the Callan Parish Records whoever recorded the baptisms and marriages also recorded how much was donated to the church. Can anyone tell me what the currency denominations may have been in the era 1821-1860? The column is headed with the £, s. o. (my interpretation of the image). -Mike. ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_0SYE0Z7gl3HqwD3NyoWJTA) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 05:45:07 +0100 From: "Rob D" <robertdoragh@hotmail.com> Subject: [DONEGAL] Love and Fleming To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <Law12-F45ePelEuBOnU0000d071@hotmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #2 Hello Atty, Couldn't get through on your email address. Love was a very common name in West Tyrone so write to the Tyrone List at CoTyroneIreland-L@rootsweb.com as there are people searching for Love (as you might say) and Fleming on the Tyrone list. Also look at the website freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tyrone/ which is fully searchable. People often lived in one county and worked in the adjoining one. In the meantime I'll look them up for you. Rob Doragh Liverpool UK You probably know this already: Flemings were originally from Flanders where France and Belgium meet. They were weavers and emigrated to England in the 17C, I think. AttyCasner@aol.com John Love b. 1800 m. Margaret Fleming b. 1801. They left Ireland abt. 1837-1838 with 4 sons William b. 1825, Thomas b. 1827, David b. 1832 and John b. 1836. John's naturalization papers stated he came from Aghanunshin in the County of Donegal _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile --Boundary_(ID_0SYE0Z7gl3HqwD3NyoWJTA)--

Hello Atty, Couldn't get through on your email address. Love was a very common name in West Tyrone so write to the Tyrone List at CoTyroneIreland-L@rootsweb.com as there are people searching for Love (as you might say) and Fleming on the Tyrone list. Also look at the website freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tyrone/ which is fully searchable. People often lived in one county and worked in the adjoining one. In the meantime I'll look them up for you. Rob Doragh Liverpool UK You probably know this already: Flemings were originally from Flanders where France and Belgium meet. They were weavers and emigrated to England in the 17C, I think. AttyCasner@aol.com John Love b. 1800 m. Margaret Fleming b. 1801. They left Ireland abt. 1837-1838 with 4 sons William b. 1825, Thomas b. 1827, David b. 1832 and John b. 1836. John's naturalization papers stated he came from Aghanunshin in the County of Donegal _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

List Members, Cross Post Message. Here is a URL for OLD currency .. It will answer many of the questions related to wages, old currency and should be of interest to most of us on the Lists. http://www.ex.ac.uk/~RDavies/arian/current/howmuch.html Bob Cdn ---------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: > [IRELAND] c. 1800 currency > ><SNIP> > ... In the Callan Parish Records whoever recorded the baptisms and marriages also recorded how much was donated to the church. Can anyone tell me what the currency denominations may have been in the era 1821-1860? The column is headed with the £, s. o. (my interpretation of the image). -Mike.

I am searching for information on this Catherine Portis. Namely who she married and her children's names. Any help gratefully appreciated. Thank you Tonya Not sure if this is your line, but there is a birth record for a Catherine > Portis dated 20 Oct 1798 at Drumholm, Co.Donegal, daughter of Robert Portis > & Mary Love who were married at Drumholm on 8 Jan 1797. Robert's birth was > estimated as abt 1772. > See IGI records below for children of Robert Portis & Mary Love > 1. CATHERINE PORTIS - Gender: Female Birth: 20 OCT 1798 Drumholm, Donegal, > Ireland > 2. ELIZABETH PORTIS - Gender: Female Birth: 27 JAN 1801 Drumholm, Donegal, > Ireland > 3. MICHAEL PORTIS - Gender: Male Birth: 11 APR 1800 Drumholm, Donegal, > Ireland > 4. THOMAS PORTIS - Gender: Male Birth: 18 APR 1808 Drumholm, Donegal, > Ireland >

Dear list members: I'm seeking information on Blacks of Burt, Co. Donegal, Ireland. Below is what I know of my Black ancestry: Griffith's Valuation of 1858 lists three Blacks in the Burt area -- Richard and John Black of Grange, Burt, and Thomas Black of Ballymoney, Burt. I believe the three are brothers; they are also Roman Catholics. John Black (birthdate unknown, but probably circa 1820; wife's name unknown) is my g-g-grandfather. His son James (my g-grandfather) was born ca. 1847 in Grange, Burt. On November 5, 1879, James married Hannah Porter, daughter of Samuel Porter and Catherine Dysart of Ballymoney, Burt. (Hannah converted from Presbyterianism to Catholicism.) They lived on a farm in Blanketnook, Newtowncunningham, Co. Donegal; between 1881 and 1891 they had six children: Mary, Catherine, Annie, Thomas, Hannah, and James (my grandfather). James Black the elder is listed as a magistrate on the 1901 census and on the Irish Magistrates list, 1904, but not on the 1911 census. He died March 16th, 1925 and is buried in Grange graveyard, Burt, with his wife, youngest daughter Hannah, and several cousins. In 1929, his eldest daughter Mary emigrated to New York with her husband John McDermott and their five children. James had at least two sisters (names unknown). One sister married McConnell; the other sister married Carr. Specifically, I seek: * James Black's date of birth * His mother's maiden name * Any information pertaining to his ancestry or siblings * General information about Blacks in Burt during this time period Any information or advice would be greatly appreciated. I have already searched the 1901 and 1911 censuses, early Catholic parish records for Burt 1853-1880 (microfilm, NLI), and headstones in local graveyards. Many thanks, Maurice Black

I am wondering if SKS could do a lookup at PRONI for me. I am currently studing the life of my 3X gr grandfather John Wark, the son of Henry Wark and Sarah McAdoo. John Wark was from the Parish of Taughboyne, St. Johnstown, County Donegal. He was born in 1791 or 1792 and was of Presbyterian faith. I have been lead to believe that no Presbyterian Parish Registers are available for the 1790s & 1800s. Due to this fact, I was wondering if someone could do a lookup or advise me if there are any Church of Ireland Parish Registers for the Parish of Taughboyne in the above time frame. Any guidance on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Pam Gaudio

Bridget Doherty (d. 1896) married John McLaughlin (d. 1900). Children: John, Charles, Patrick (1869), William, James, Catherine. Family lived in and around Fahan & Buncrana. Chuck Loeher 1305 Blairmoor Grosse Pointe, MI

Joan, The best answer is NO, there maybe the odd entry from that period but the majority of the entries are from 1850's on with some from the early 1800. Go to the FHC on line Shop and read the description of all their products. It will give an overview. Still the best $ value around. Bob <SNIP> >This note is for Bob. Do the disks go back to 1690-1715? >Joan > >

My Andrew Orr was born in Co. Donegal in 1802, s/o (we think) Joseph & ??? (McLarkey) Orr. I am looking for male Orrs who may be interested in getting their DNA tested, particularly from Co. Donegal.

This note is for Bob. Do the disks go back to 1690-1715? Joan DONEGALEIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > DONEGALEIRE-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 143 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [DONEGAL] SOURCE OF DATA [Bob <hiflyte@telus.net>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from DONEGALEIRE-D, send a message to > > DONEGALEIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > If you aren't unsubscribed, try the same method using the following address > > DONEGALEIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [DONEGAL] SOURCE OF DATA > Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 20:29:13 -0600 > From: Bob <hiflyte@telus.net> > To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com > > Joe, > > I ordered the Disks from the FHC or Familysearch site (Laterday Saints > Church) > > URL: > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp > > In fact I have many of the disks they sell and order most of the new > ones as they come on-line > There is no better place on the Net to obtain data at a reasonable > price. I believe all of us should obtain the FHC products "before we > start using Professional Researchers" to find our ancestors (do the leg > work ourselves). My observations apply mainly to the British Isles and > Western Europe since the data is held by Churches/Gov't and other > sources that has been photocopied by thE LDS Church.. There cost is > reasonable, considering what some pay to have documents obtained by > the Pros (BIVRI2 costs $25.00US about 35.00Cdn. I have obtained most > (mid 1800's - on) "INDEX " data for marriages and births, from the > FHC disks and then ordered the films from the local FHC centre ($5.50 > per film for 30 days -must be kept at the FHC). For the data that is > missing I use the BMD indexes (Cdn/US/Western Europe) held by our FHC > to find the reference numbers and then order the films in, then start > looking and photocopying the info that I want. This statement ASSUMES > you have an FHC close-by. If not you will have to ask for help on > your LIst or use a PRO. The FHC centres are a great source of help, the > Volunteer Workers at our centre go out of their way to assist those > using the facilities and you DON'T have to be a member of the LDS Church > to use the sites. > > The Primary Rule in finding lost souls is: PATIENCE > > Hope first part answers your question the remainder is of assistance to > others. > > Bob > Cdn. > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ikerooney wrote: > > >Bob, > > > >Where did you get these disks? > > > >

I spent last week tracking down my Grandmother Bridget McSHEFFREY's relatives in Fahan Upper Civil Parish in County Donegal. She came from Magheryard (b. 24/09/1865) , between Drumadooey and Dundrean (BMD Church records) and died in Derry City 08/04/1937. I was directed to a Celtic cross in the graveyard to the LHS of Fahan RC Parish Church door (The church is situated between Carrick Hill and Cashel Hill). The inscription reads - "In memory of the McSHEFFREY Family of GARVERY. R.I.P" Does anyone out there have any knowledge of this cross and which remaining McSHEFFREYs put it there? A farmer in Garvery told us that the last Mr McSHEFFREY in Garvery had died 50 years ago. Where are their descendants now? The 1901 census notes William and Patrick McSHEFFREY farming in Garvery and the 1911 census similarly (except that William had died). http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/1901garvary.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/1911garvaryFU.htm Griffiths notes both Daniel and William M'Sheaffry farming at Gortnaskea (Fahan Upper) just N. East of Garvery (now spelled Garvary on the Discovery No.7 Map). Liam "A bird in the bush is worth two in the Cat"

Joe, I ordered the Disks from the FHC or Familysearch site (Laterday Saints Church) URL: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp In fact I have many of the disks they sell and order most of the new ones as they come on-line There is no better place on the Net to obtain data at a reasonable price. I believe all of us should obtain the FHC products "before we start using Professional Researchers" to find our ancestors (do the leg work ourselves). My observations apply mainly to the British Isles and Western Europe since the data is held by Churches/Gov't and other sources that has been photocopied by thE LDS Church.. There cost is reasonable, considering what some pay to have documents obtained by the Pros (BIVRI2 costs $25.00US about 35.00Cdn. I have obtained most (mid 1800's - on) "INDEX " data for marriages and births, from the FHC disks and then ordered the films from the local FHC centre ($5.50 per film for 30 days -must be kept at the FHC). For the data that is missing I use the BMD indexes (Cdn/US/Western Europe) held by our FHC to find the reference numbers and then order the films in, then start looking and photocopying the info that I want. This statement ASSUMES you have an FHC close-by. If not you will have to ask for help on your LIst or use a PRO. The FHC centres are a great source of help, the Volunteer Workers at our centre go out of their way to assist those using the facilities and you DON'T have to be a member of the LDS Church to use the sites. The Primary Rule in finding lost souls is: PATIENCE Hope first part answers your question the remainder is of assistance to others. Bob Cdn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ikerooney wrote: >Bob, > >Where did you get these disks? > >

Just in case some of you don't get the National Archives newsletter Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland Irish archives both north and south of the border will be holding celebratory events including 'Archives in your attic' at the Harbour Museum County Derry and 'In search of Thomas McGreevy' at the National Gallery of Ireland. Derry City and Donegal County Archives are hosting a joint exhibition 'Poverty in the North West' which looks at the records of workhouses and other local societies in the nineteenth century. See . . . http://www.aamsept2003.com/highlights-12.html Slan Henry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003

Maggie at tuathadedaan@xtra.co.nz writes: << Drumacr---- (illegible) near Drumhaggart. Could the illegible name be "Drumacross"? >> Maggie, My NI Discoverer map 7 for this area shows a settlement of Drumnacross (notice the extra letter) less than a mile SW of the main settled part of Drumhaggart. It is not listed as a townland nor is it even mentioned on the Townland Index maps, but it appears to be located in the townland of Dundrean, which has a significant border with Drumhaggart. I don't find any townlands or other places in the general area of Drumhaggart, starting with Drumac------. It is possible that the name Drumnacross is locally pronounced more easily as Drumacross, and this was what was transcribed. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

My great great grandfather was Joseph CONNOR/McNAUGHER of Drumhaggart, Parish of Burt. Connor and McNaugher were interchangeable - a product of English clerks being unable to understand the Gaelic accent. Connor was originally McConnor. Joseph CONNOR married Margaret ANDERSON 25 November 1859 in the Parish of Burt. Margaret McNAUGHER died 25 November 1886 aged 52, wife of a farmer Drumacr---- (illegible) near Drumhaggart. Could the illegible name be "Drumacross"? Joseph was living with his son-in-law William Dinsmore in 1901. William was a widower, with two sons. Joseph and Margaret McNAUGHER had the following children: Catherine (Cassie) McNAUGHER (my great grandmother) Thomas McNOCHER born 1865 Eliza Anne McNOCHER born 1869 died 1898 Drumhaggart aged 30. Her name on death certicate is McNAUGHER. Catherine McNAUGHER married John BEATTIE of Drumhaggart, Farmer 2 November 1886. Both were of full age. Family lore says there were either 11 or 13 children, my grandmother being the only girl and the youngest. Here are some I have found. Both Catherine and John were deceased by 1901 as the children were with various families in the district, the younger ones listed as orphans. Joseph born 1887. In 1901 living with a family of MOODY at Muff, nearby to Drumhaggart. William John BEATTIE born 1888. In 1901 living with Great Uncle James McNaugher at Drumhaggart. Andrew BEATTIE born 1891. In 1901 living with a Hunter family of Drumhaggart. Listed as a lodger. James or Thomas BEATTIE born 1894 living with Great Uncle James McNAUGHER 1901, see William above. Mary Elizabeth BEATTIE (my grandmother) born 1895. Living in 1901 with George and Margaret DONAGHY and their daughter Eveline in Drumhaggart. I am sorry this is so long, but I have researched this family for a long time and thanks to an Irish cousin, it is starting to come together. If you can help or know of some of the names above, I would love to hear from you. Also below is our URL for our web pages. It has much more detailed info. and gives WILEY relationships. http://www.freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~maggiesirishkin/index.html Cheers, MAGGIE in New Zealand

I am seeking a birth certificate or some sort of primary source for Robert Wilson b. 9 Jun (or perhaps May) 1776 Strebane, Donoughmore Parish, Co Donegal. Mother may have been Sally Law. Thank you very much. Reed Livingston (nee SQUIER)

I probably took my name off Donegaleire list when I changed email addresses, so haven't seen any list messages since mid-July NEW DSL ADDRESS - mhastingshendrix@sbcglobal.net [Phone is under Lloyd Trammel Hendrix - 714 Area Code - CA, USA] Has anyone a connection to the Fanny Wiley or Wylie mentioned below? [DONEGAL] Fanny Wiley's Bridge near Derryvane, Muff Date: 7/22/2003 6:25:29 PM Pacific Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:MHastingsHendrix@cs.com">MHastingsHendrix@cs.com</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com">DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com</A> Where might I find out about the person for whom 'Fanny WILEY's bridge' in or near Derryvane, parish of Muff, was named? Does anyone connect with an ancestor named Fanny WILEY/WYLIE? OR IS SHE A SIBLING IN SOMEONE'S FAMILY? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Margaret Hastings Hendrix - Paternal ancestry:-- All settled on/near county and state lines ! ! HASTINGS, Harry Carroll - b. 1893 Fort Recovery, Mercer Co., western OH, m. 1920 Z. Maude GIFFEN of Belmont Co., eastern OH HASTINGS, Zachary T. m. 1873 Minerva WILEY - Mercer Co., OH, res. State Line, Noble Tp., Jay Co., IN WILEY, Samuel m. 1847 Sarah PORTER - Co. Donegal, Ireland - settled Wash. Tp., Mercer Co., OH HASTINGS, Wateman/Waitman, m. 1844 Mary E. COLLINS Sussex Co., DE - settled Gibson Tp., Mercer Co., OH COLLINS, Solomon m. Nancy WALSTON, 1824, Worc. Co. MD - settled Gibson Tp., Mercer Co., OH HASTINGS, James b. bef 1775, res. Little Creek Hd., Sussex Co., DE, m. ca 1800 (2nd wf?) Alafare BENNETT (father John BENNETT, mother ____??) HASTINGS, Obadiah/Obediah/Abadiah, b. ca 1750 - res. Sussex Co., DE, bef 1775 - d. 1820-30 - LOST AT SEA?

Hi everyone. Is there anyone out there who is related to Tanner or Newton Family's. William Tanner and Margaret Newton were married in Donegal about 1780 place unknown They had two known children. 1 John who appears in the Tithe Applotments in Churchill Co.Donegal and the other was a daughter Dorathea. 2. Dorathea born about 1795 and was dead before 1856, married William Black of Churchill in 1821 at Raphoe Cathedral. Keeping my fingers crossed. Many thanks Muriel Sherlock

Could some one send me the address for the Protestant church in Kilbarron, Donegal, Ireland Thank you Tonya Not St. Ann's in Ballyshannon please?

Searching for Family of George Portis from Fennaugh, Ireland. abt. 1830-1860. Need to know his parents and siblings. Searching for Catherine Portis same time frame, are they siblings? Any help gratefully appreciated. Thanks Tonya