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    1. Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Parishes of Donegal (Book)
    2. Jeannie Drumconor is a townland. What is your family name? Janice

    12/13/2003 02:49:35
    1. Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Parishes of Donegal (Book)
    2. These books aren't a list of names. In 1824 a House of Common committee recommended a townland survey of Ireland with maps, to facilitate a uniform valuation for local tax. The Memoirs are written descriptions intended to accompany the maps. They document the landscape and situation, buildings and antiquities, land-holdings and population, employment and livelihood of the parishes. For example: Parish of Clonleigh Nature State- Situation and Boundaries Extent and Divisions Natural Features and Productive Econamy- Rivers, fisheries, hills, manures & bogs. Modern Topography- towns: Lifford; ballindrat, schools, gentlemen's seats Productive Economy- farms, crops, general economy Social Economy- population,advowson Natural History- geology, coal Modern and Ancient Topography- roads, antiquities Food Education Habits of the people Proprietors Customs and Traditions Diseases Old Churches Local Government Janice

    12/13/2003 08:00:53
    1. [DONEGALEIRE] Griffith's Valuation 1854-1864
    2. MEENACALLY 1. Ward Michael 2. Donnell James 3. Bogle Denis 4. McHugh Henry 5. Meehan Patrick 6. Campbell Mary 7. Fury Bryan 8. Love William Love John 9. Muldoon Patrick 10. Scott Robert 11. McGroary James McGruddy Anne 12. McGruddy Neal 13. Acumminey Denis MILLTOWN 1. Graham William MOUNTCHARLES TOWNLAND Marquis of Conyngham Philip Doherty Elizabeth Murdock Oliver Baskin Oliver Baskin Joseph Baxter Robert Bogle William Crowe William Spence Michael Griffin Andrew Spence Joseph Russell John Brogan Patrick Quinn Thomas O'Hara Anne Corr Thomas Spence Denis Gillespie John Kyle Marquis of Conyngham George Murray James Hone John Mulreany Hugh Scott Anthony Minealy William Blake James Cannon James Williamson Mary Millar Alex Long Edward McGlinchey Anne Monahan Hugh Scott (jun) Margaret Cowan Charles Williamson Hugh Mulreany Hugh Meehan Robert Hamilton John Wark John Cunningham Mary Williamson Anne Mulreany James Kelly Benjamin Robinson George Kirk James Hamilton Edward Quinn Hugh Flaherty James Hamilton James Maguire Samuel Carter Catherine Foy Margaret Boyd Jane Mundy Catherine Baskin James Doran Patrick Devany John McMonigle William Fiffe George Griffin Hannah Kyle Thomas Buchanan Hannah Kyle Thomas Buchanan Henry Kyle Charles mCCarthy Patrick Travers Barbara Griffin Michael McMulligan Catherine Quinn Patrick Gillespie Stephen Williamson Catherine McCafferty Hugh Harkin Thomas McCarthy John Harkin Christopher Monahan Charles MCarthy Jane Gallagher John Thomas John McAdam Thomas Doherty James Thompson Hugh Scott John Glenn Elizabeth Kyle Joseph Kyle Jane Deasley Daniel Shales (sen) Connell Gallagher James Gallagher Patrick Shales Bryan Gallagher Daniel Shales Trustees of Erasmus Smith's Schools MOUNTCHARLES TOWN 1. School hse. 2. Marcella Campbell 3. Patrick Griffin 4. George Murray 5. Patrick Brogan 6. James McLoughlin 7. James Campbell 8. John Mulreany 9. George Browne 10. Margaret Cowan 11. John Hamilton 12. James Freel 13. Mary Hamilton 14. James Hone 15. John Slevin 16. Elizabeth Murdock 17./18. John Boyle 19. Jospeh McLoughlin 20. William McIntyre 21. Market House 22. Charles Williamson 23. Mary Miller 24. Bernard Gallagher 25. Anne Mulreany 26. Oliver Baskin 27. James Freel 28/29. Hugh Scott 30. John Wark 31. Michael Hagerty 32. Sarah McGrory 33. Denis Harkin 34. Catherine O'Donnell 35. Joseph Russell 36. Andrew Spence 37. Catherine Campbell 38. Hugh Scott 39. William Blake 40. William Byrne 41. William Kearney 42. Ellen Kearney 43. John Burns 44. Michael Dormin 45/46. Philip Doherty 47/48. Denis Harkin 49. John Logan 50. Alex Long 51/52. James Cannon 53. James Cannon's Lodgers 54. Alex Robinson 55. Anne Carr 56. Edward McGlinchey 57. Anne Monahan 58. Hugh Scott (sen) 59. Rev. Alex Delap 60. Alex Buchanan 61. Dispensary 62. George Buchanan 63. Jane Thompson 64. William Henderson 65. Mary Blake 66. Michael McCormack 67. Anne Molloy 68. Anthony McNeilly 69. John Hamilton 70. Austin Mulreany 71 A. Police Barracks 71 B. Anne Mulreany 72. Patrick Quinn 73. John Brogan 74. Michael Waugh 75. Hugh Mulreany 76. Hugh Mulreany 77. Margaret Molloy 78. William Spence 79. Margaret Cowan 80. James Hughes 81. John Harahy 82. Robert Meehan 83. James Meehan 84. George Browne 85. -----86. John Griffin 87. Denis Gilespie MUCHROSS Hamilton John Rolleston Robert McCullagh Matthew Sandley James Boyle Charles Janice

    12/13/2003 02:47:09
    1. [DONEGALEIRE] Naturalization Lookup from 1795-1906 (Dela. Co., PA)
    2. Hi list, I will do a lookup in the Naturalization Index Records from: 1795 - 1860 for Delaware Co., PA (only) 1860 - 1906 for Delaware Co., PA (only) FIRST: Please place on the subject line "only one" person's name. Do NOT send me a list of names! Please put the surname in capital (LARGE) letters so I can tell if it is the person's given name or surname: Example: James THOMAS or THOMAS, James -- NOT James Thomas. SECOND: Please identify which time period: 1795 -1860 or 1860 -1906 Example of subject line: Naturalization -- THOMAS, James 1860 -1906 NOTE: Women were NOT Naturalized in this time period -- they became a citizen if & when their husband did or when they married a man who had already became a citizen or was a citizen. If a person lives in Philadelphia or Berks Co., PA they would NOT have come to Delaware Co., PA to file citizenship papers but if a person lives in Delaware Co. he may go to Phila. to file! Hence, going from the county level to the state level to file. Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

    12/13/2003 01:25:53
    1. Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Killenard, Donegal ?
    2. Alexander Crawford. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/flaxlist1.htm Janice

    12/13/2003 12:27:41
    1. Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Killenard, Donegal ?
    2. In the Ordance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parishes of County Donegal II 1835-6, there is the parish of Drumhome. Janice

    12/13/2003 12:12:01
    1. Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Parishes of Donegal (Book)
    2. I own Ordance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parishes of County Donegal II 1835-6, if anyone wanted any information from that book. Janice

    12/12/2003 11:56:04
    1. [DONEGALEIRE] Parishes of Donegal (Book)
    2. Kathleen Schilling
    3. I just found two absolutely fantastic books that I just have to tell you all about: Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland, Parishes of County Donegal I and II. The are published by The Institute of Irish Studies. There's a description of these and other Ordnance Surveys at http://www.qub.ac.uk/iis/publications/OrdnanceSurveyMemoirs/OSMhomepage.htm ----------------------- In the 1830s a major series of parish accounts was commissioned to accompany the new Ordnance Survey maps. These became known as the Memoirs. Only the northern part of Ireland was covered before the scheme was dropped, and only one parish Memoir was published at the time. Now, over 150 years later, the Institute of Irish Studies, the Queen's University of Belfast, in association with the Royal Irish Academy, has published the Memoirs in full to provide a unique source for the cultural heritage of our community. The 40 volumes act as a nineteenth-century Domesday book, and are essential to the understanding of the cultural heritage of our communities. The Memoirs record landscape, buildings and antiquities, land-holdings and population, and employment and livelihood of the parishes. --------------------- There are land holders listed, names from gravestones, information about what people ate, wore and how and where they worked, etc. Wonderful to read! Regards, Kathleen Schilling _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx

    12/12/2003 07:14:08
    1. Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Kissing Cousins
    2. i sent it to help explain some things i was a student of history and a sleep apnea activist i got into geneaology to find out where i got apnea since its very genetic soon it showed up in my Dever and Malone lines early deaths strokes diabetes all things derived from apnea this shows what happens but simulair names dont always tell the story because i live in a small 12000 person town. i have learned never to talk about anyone whose a townie because they are all related and thats 20th century jim ps: gentics = geneaology Dear Jim, In our family the Elders 'always married their cousins'. In every generation first and/or second cousins married. The result has not been all that wonderful nor completely disasterous. Frist, there are an unusual number of very small and short people in our family. M Great-Grandmother Josephine Elder Brandon was 4'8". Her mother, who married her first cousin, was also small as were all Josephine's sisters and one of her brothers. When I say small, I mean small. When I was fifteen I could not fit my hand into her shoe and I am 5'1". In addition, we seem to have inbreed a genetic flaw which causes miscarriages of male children. That is why our Inch Island Elder line is extinct in males. None of Elizabeth Sharkey Elder's male descendants bear the name Elder. Also, we have a preponderance of folks in our family who are -- for lack of a better term -- nervous and high-strung. On the bright side. We have an unusually high number of women of letters in the Elder line. Schoolteachers, poets, and authors keep popping up. So it is not all bad. As an avocational genealogist I find this custom of marrying cousins very inconvenient because it drastically reduces the number of names one may investigate in each generation prior to the consanguinous marriage. One last thing. The idea that cousins should not marry is not peculiar to North America. My Great-Grandmother Josephine immigrated from Donegal specifically because she was being courted by a first cousin. The family expected her to marry him and -- even though she was fond of the man -- she felt it was not wise for the daughter of first cousins to marry her own first cousin. She no sooner arrived in the USA than she received a proposal from an American cousin, which prompted her to head west into lands where she had no relatives. Oh, I was born with six toes. Thank you. Best Regards, Tira Brandon-Evans ELDER, MARSHALL, SHARKEY, CRAIG

    12/12/2003 04:20:48
    1. [DONEGALEIRE] Killenard, Donegal ?
    2. Greenwood
    3. Have been looking at the Public Records Office in Kew online for CRAWFORDs in Donegal, I've found 10 hits using the 2 searchwords Crawford and Donegal. One each in the following 9 townlands : Balline, Kilbarrow, Drumhorn, Donegal, Drumholme, Templecaron, Raphoe, Templeman and Killenard. There was one for county Donegal. I've spelled them as they were found in the PRO records. Killenard is the result of interest, there seems to be no place spelled Killenard in the Sean Ruad Townland Atlas and wonder if it would be Killymard ? The person who was found by the search was an Alexander CRAWFORD, born Killenard, Donegal. Served in 88th Foot Regiment, discharged aged 23. Records cover 1807 - 1816. Another of interest was the Drumholme listing, this was for an Andrew CRAWFORD, born Drumholme, Donegal, served in 68th foot Regiment, Discharged aged 41. Records cover 1817 - 1836. The PRO site is below, use the 'search the catalogue' button, there is no need to register to search the site. Military records are coded WO for War Office. Use WO in the searchbox for the Department code. http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/ Any guidance on the 2 names above will be of help in guiding me to finding where more of this CRAWFORD family might be. Might there have been dozens of CRAWFORDS in the area ? A few years ago I received from Ted Hynd's database the information that George ALLAN born 1836, Drumholm, Donegal was the son of Joseph ALLAN [of Polnaranny] and Elizabeth CRAWFORD [of Tievebrack], Donegal. Closest larger town area to those places was Ballintra. George ALLAN is a direct ancestor of mine, but the surnames ALLEN and CRAWFORD stopped me cold, there were just too many to sift through. Trying again.....Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA

    12/12/2003 04:17:23
    1. Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Kissing Cousins
    2. i sent it to help explain some things i was a student of history and a sleep apnea activist i got into geneaology to find out where i got apnea since its very genetic soon it showed up in my Dever and Malone lines early deaths strokes diabetes all things derived from apnea this shows what happens but simulair names dont always tell the story because i live in a small 12000 person town. i have learned never to talk about anyone whose a townie because they are all related and thats 20th century jim ps: gentics = geneaology Dear Jim, In our family the Elders 'always married their cousins'. In every generation first and/or second cousins married. The result has not been all that wonderful nor completely disasterous. Frist, there are an unusual number of very small and short people in our family. M Great-Grandmother Josephine Elder Brandon was 4'8". Her mother, who married her first cousin, was also small as were all Josephine's sisters and one of her brothers. When I say small, I mean small. When I was fifteen I could not fit my hand into her shoe and I am 5'1". In addition, we seem to have inbreed a genetic flaw which causes miscarriages of male children. That is why our Inch Island Elder line is extinct in males. None of Elizabeth Sharkey Elder's male descendants bear the name Elder. Also, we have a preponderance of folks in our family who are -- for lack of a better term -- nervous and high-strung. On the bright side. We have an unusually high number of women of letters in the Elder line. Schoolteachers, poets, and authors keep popping up. So it is not all bad. As an avocational genealogist I find this custom of marrying cousins very inconvenient because it drastically reduces the number of names one may investigate in each generation prior to the consanguinous marriage. One last thing. The idea that cousins should not marry is not peculiar to North America. My Great-Grandmother Josephine immigrated from Donegal specifically because she was being courted by a first cousin. The family expected her to marry him and -- even though she was fond of the man -- she felt it was not wise for the daughter of first cousins to marry her own first cousin. She no sooner arrived in the USA than she received a proposal from an American cousin, which prompted her to head west into lands where she had no relatives. Oh, I was born with six toes. Thank you. Best Regards, Tira Brandon-Evans ELDER, MARSHALL, SHARKEY, CRAIG

    12/12/2003 04:01:34
    1. Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Kissing Cousins
    2. i sent it to help explain some things i was a student of history and a sleep apnea activist i got into geneaology to find out where i got apnea since its very genetic soon it showed up in my devour and Malian lines early deaths strokes diabetes all things derived from apnea this shows what happens but simulair names dont always tell the story because i live in a small 12000 person town. i have learned never to talk about anyone whose a townie because they are all related and thats 20th century jim ps: gentics = geneaology Dear Jim, In our family the Elders 'always married their cousins'. In every generation first and/or second cousins married. The result has not been all that wonderful nor completely disasterous. Frist, there are an unusual number of very small and short people in our family. M Great-Grandmother Josephine Elder Brandon was 4'8". Her mother, who married her first cousin, was also small as were all Josephine's sisters and one of her brothers. When I say small, I mean small. When I was fifteen I could not fit my hand into her shoe and I am 5'1". In addition, we seem to have inbreed a genetic flaw which causes miscarriages of male children. That is why our Inch Island Elder line is extinct in males. None of Elizabeth Sharkey Elder's male descendants bear the name Elder. Also, we have a preponderance of folks in our family who are -- for lack of a better term -- nervous and high-strung. On the bright side. We have an unusually high number of women of letters in the Elder line. Schoolteachers, poets, and authors keep popping up. So it is not all bad. As an avocational genealogist I find this custom of marrying cousins very inconvenient because it drastically reduces the number of names one may investigate in each generation prior to the consanguinous marriage. One last thing. The idea that cousins should not marry is not peculiar to North America. My Great-Grandmother Josephine immigrated from Donegal specifically because she was being courted by a first cousin. The family expected her to marry him and -- even though she was fond of the man -- she felt it was not wise for the daughter of first cousins to marry her own first cousin. She no sooner arrived in the USA than she received a proposal from an American cousin, which prompted her to head west into lands where she had no relatives. Oh, I was born with six toes. Thank you. Best Regards, Tira Brandon-Evans ELDER, MARSHALL, SHARKEY, CRAIG

    12/12/2003 03:52:53
    1. [DONEGALEIRE] Donegal Militia Lists.
    2. muriel.sherlock
    3. Hi folks Does anyone know of any lists for the Donegal Militia in the 1850's Would appreciate any help on this. Many thanks Muriel

    12/12/2003 03:12:03
    1. [DONEGALEIRE] Kissing Cousins
    2. Tira Evans
    3. Dear Jim, In our family the Elders 'always married their cousins'. In every generation first and/or second cousins married. The result has not been all that wonderful nor completely disasterous. Frist, there are an unusual number of very small and short people in our family. M Great-Grandmother Josephine Elder Brandon was 4'8". Her mother, who married her first cousin, was also small as were all Josephine's sisters and one of her brothers. When I say small, I mean small. When I was fifteen I could not fit my hand into her shoe and I am 5'1". In addition, we seem to have inbreed a genetic flaw which causes miscarriages of male children. That is why our Inch Island Elder line is extinct in males. None of Elizabeth Sharkey Elder's male descendants bear the name Elder. Also, we have a preponderance of folks in our family who are -- for lack of a better term -- nervous and high-strung. On the bright side. We have an unusually high number of women of letters in the Elder line. Schoolteachers, poets, and authors keep popping up. So it is not all bad. As an avocational genealogist I find this custom of marrying cousins very inconvenient because it drastically reduces the number of names one may investigate in each generation prior to the consanguinous marriage. One last thing. The idea that cousins should not marry is not peculiar to North America. My Great-Grandmother Josephine immigrated from Donegal specifically because she was being courted by a first cousin. The family expected her to marry him and -- even though she was fond of the man -- she felt it was not wise for the daughter of first cousins to marry her own first cousin. She no sooner arrived in the USA than she received a proposal from an American cousin, which prompted her to head west into lands where she had no relatives. Oh, I was born with six toes. Thank you. Best Regards, Tira Brandon-Evans ELDER, MARSHALL, SHARKEY, CRAIG

    12/12/2003 03:52:19
    1. [DONEGALEIRE] Griffith's Valuation 1854-1864
    2. GORTLOSKY 1. Molloy Bryan 2. Hagerty John 3. Malley Sydney 3. Carney Michael 4. McAdam Phili5.6. Dever Charles 5. Dever Charles 6. Malley John 7. Perry Thomas HALL DEMESNE Marquis of Conyngham John Kyle Denis Gillespie Denis Neil Henry Given Thomas McBrierty Charles Dunne Michael McDevitt John Brogan Anne Mulreany Patrick Quinn Joseph McLoughlin George Browne James Hughes John Griffin Thomas Paterson John Meehan Hugh Scott HOLMES 1. Morrow John 2. Fawcett Andrew INVER GLEBE Rev. Henry Carre School hse. William Edwards Charles Molloy William McKeely Thomas Dorian James Mullen John McAndrew Michael Rose John Rose Andrew Higginbotham Anne Donnell Bridget Meehan Thomas Meehan Thomas McKew James Cannon Thomas Rose Edward Gallagher Henry Rose Rev. henry Carre James Shannon Henry Rose James Sweeny Hugh McCahill Daniel Love Charles Meehan William Downey Bridget Gallagher John Dobson Thomas Rose Henry Rose KEELOGES John McDevitt Frances McDevitt Michael Gallagher Patrick Griffin Edward McAnurrin James McGurty Anne McGurty Charles McNulty Peter McNulty Michael McGurty Michael McGurty Neal McGurty Michael McGurty John McGurty John McGurty John McGurty Patrick Shannon Neal McGurty John McGurty John McGurty Michael McGurty James McAnurrin James McAnurrin Denis Tolan Patrick Freel (sen) Daniel Freel Patrick Conaghan Mary O'Donnell Donnell Tolan Patrick Mulhern Charles McNulty Donnell Tolan Bridget Meehan Mary meehan Owen Freel William Shannon Patrick Freel (jun) Margaret Byrne LOUGH EASK DEMESNE Thomas Brooke Church Robert McBrierty James Crawford John Arnold LURGANBOY Harte William Hamilton John Boyle Patrick Scott William Kincaid Thomas Virtue Robert MAIN STREET 1. Devlin Patrick 2. Boyce Jeremiah 3. Meehan John 4.Aikens William 5. Griffith John 6. Gillespie Robert 7. Patterson Thomas 8. Scott Robert 9. Green John 10. Cassidy Owen 11. McGinty Joseph 12. Gallagher Patrick 13. Hammond James 14. McKenna John 14. Murray William 15. Wray Henry 16. John Rea's Lodgers 17. Miller Margaret 18. Crawford John 19. McFadden Anthony 20. Breslan John 21. Byrne James 22. Mulrenny Harriet 22. Dispensary 23. Spence Jacob 24. Hegarty James 25. Pilkington Edward 26. Montgomery Michael 27. McGinty William 28.. James Brigham's Lodgers 29. Zion Chapel 30. Skuse Rev. John 31. Stephen's Rev. Francis 342. Patrick Devlin 33. Gillespie Maurice 34. Connolly John 35. Slevin William 36. Mooney Owen 37. Cunnaghan James 38. Sheridan Bernard 39. Boyle Laurence 40. Scott Hannah 41. William Byrne's Lodgers 42. Lipsey Elizabeth 43. Hilley James 44. Thomas Mary 45. Higgins Sarah 46. Doherty Daniel 47. Campbell Hugh 48. Martin Patrick 49. Boyle Cornelius 50. McDevitt William 51. McGinty Bernard 52. McDevitt James 53. Mackey Elizabeth 54. Magill Anthony 55. Doherty John 56. Kildea Hugh 57. Doherty James 58. MCMullin Patrick 59. Woods John 60. Malley Michael 61. Gallagher Daniel 62. McGuinness James 63. Finley Elizabeth 64.Martin Owen 65. Doherty William 66. McGargal John 67. Boyle Daniel 68. McGargal James 69. Keon William P. 70. Irwin John 71/73. Spence Jacob 74. Doogan William 75. Rev. Police Barracks 76. R.C. Chapel 77. Cole Denis 78. Martin Samuel 79. McGuinney Francis 80. McGinty J. 81. Bartley May 82. Weir Patrick 83. Britton Hugh 84. Walker Margaret 85. Crawford Eliza 86. Feely Rev. John 87. McGinty Joseph Brown Manus 88. Brown Manus 89. Quinn Charles 90.. Martin Denis 91. Kelly Bernard 92. Floyd James 93. Kelly Anne 94. Martin Neal 95. Martin Denis 96. Johnston John 97. Breslan John Janice

    12/12/2003 01:24:20
    1. Re: [DONEGALEIRE] TAMNEY
    2. David at hath@tinet.ie writes: << a townland (actually on the Ordnance Survey map its spelt, wrongly, Tawny >> David, Welllllllllllll.......for 150 years, it's been spelled Tawny, in the Townland listings and on the OS maps. So I'm not sure that 'wrongly' is the exact word I'd use. Years ago, I gave up arguing with the decisions made by Griffith, O'Donovan, O'Curry et al, when they were involved with the surveying of the townlands of Ireland in the 1830/40's. Their results are reflected in the Townlands Listing used as the basis for the Seanruad website. Griffith's technique was to get lists of townlands from the high constable of each barony, he used estate maps, checked with the landowners and with the clergy. After this, he acknowledged these townlands as long as they had been accepted in the neighborhood for at least fifty years. O'Donovan and O'Curry, both well-respected Irish language scholars, continued the search for proper representation of the townlands and their names. It was essential that the Townlands Listing (and also on the six-inch maps) use English........ so a procedure was developed to anglicize the Irish names by creating English spellings whose pronunciations would produce as close as possible a match to the sound of the Irish placename. The procedures, tribulations, compromises, etc. of this endeavor is well-covered in Andrews' "A Paper Landscape - The Ordnance Survey in Nineteenth-Century Ireland". This program seemed well-suited to the situation - dealing with a largely illiterate population, who had only an oral tradition of their townlands. O'Donovan chose to collect at least six versions of each townland name (from the mixed sources - landowners, clergy, residents, etc.) by which he tried to standardize the conversion to an anglicized form. With over 60,000 townlands, it's not surprising that he was a bit 'pressed for time'. And I would guess that, when he was done, he would have had trouble finding someone in any given townland who agreed with his anglicized pronunciation or his spelling. Just like today. The Tawny is related to O'Donovan's word-segment Tawn, which is apparently Tamhn in Irish (as expounded by a thoroughly non-Irish speaker - - me). He uses this consistently through all of the Tawn-xxxxxx (or Tawna-xxxxxx) townlands in the Connemara Gaeltacht, and he appears to be consistent up into Donegal. My comments on the wide variations of spelling due, primarily, to the illiteracy of the general public in Ireland in the mid-1800's - should not be construed as an insult in any way, of course. My own surname, brought to the U.S. by a 14-year old boy departing from Texel, Holland on the first of October 1636 (the original and only immigrant with the Schermerhorn name) - has appeared in at least 27 versions of wildly-different spellings.......also, undoubtedly, due to illiteracy. My Dad, a budding genealogist in college, discovered what had been happening to the family name, and went to court and had his name legally changed to the original spelling - thereby antagonizing his parents and siblings, none of whom saw the necessity for such a drastic change. What goes around, comes around. You'll notice that I didn't even touch the subject of "unofficial" townlands, whose names are acknowledged only by their residents and descendants <gr>. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

    12/11/2003 01:02:56
    1. Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Dougherty/Doherty of Pensylvania
    2. Margaret Do you know where she was buried, cause I probably could find the grave. Janice

    12/11/2003 10:41:02
    1. [DONEGALEIRE] Griffith's Valuation 1854-1864
    2. EDRIM GLEBE 1. kearney Robert 2. Kearney Arthur 3. Moghan Owen 4. McCaffrey James Keenan Michael 5. Vance Alexander 6. Coulter John 7. Patterson William 8. Martin William 9. Richey William 10. Gallagher Patrick 11. Henderson Andrew 12. Pearson Thomas 13. Monteith Robert 14. Monteith George 15. McGrory Alexander 16. Lahan William 17. Elvin James 18. Little Thomas 19. Cunningham Owen 20. Rea James 21. Brooke Adam 22. Stewart Thomas 23. Kearney Patrick 24. Wilson Robert 25. Campbell William 26. Logan John 27. O'Donnell Daniel 28. Graham John 29. Stritch Elizabeth 30. Hammon Samuel 31. Irwin George Griffin Michael 32. Hughes Rev. William FANAGHANS Edward Gallagher John Gallagher Edward Gallagher Denis Gallagher James Gallagher Ellen Gillespie Patrick Gillespie Rose McHugh Thomas Sweeny Catherine McGroarty James Sweeny John Donegan James Sweeny Thomas McHugh David Underwood Daniel Coulter Michael McAndrew Teague Fury Daniel Dolan Patrick Kennedy Patrick Fury Edward McAndrew Alexander Thompson Andrew Allingham Unity Rose Thomas McDonagh Patrick Higginbotham Ellen Tully Peter McClosky Rose Blair JohnMeehan John Conaghan GLEBE Ewing Rev. William Corr William School hse. McDevitt Philip Gallagher James McDevitt William Dillon John H. McGinty James Grave yard Earl of Arran GLEN Michael Griffin John Sweeney Michael Griffin Marquis of Conyngham Margaret Taylor James Cannon Michael Griffin GLENCOAGH (KILLYMARD) Connell Brogan William McIntyre Hugh Scott (sen) William Malley John Logan Samuel Bogle Hugh Scott (jun) Anne Monahan William Brogan Charles Williamson Mary Blake GLENCAOGH ( PARISH OF INVER) James Harahy Neal Harahy Mathew Scott Neal Harahy Anthony Kelly George Kirk John McDermott Patrick Meehan Anthony McNeilly Alex Buchanan William Boyle William Intyre Hugh Scott (sen) Owen Sivelin John Logan National School hse. Patrick Cannon Denis Harkin Ellen McMullen Charles Williamson Hannah Harahy John Brennan John Freel Edward McGlinchy James Cannon GORTAWARD George Corscadden William Burke William Beatty Margaret Lyons Thomas Tracy Adam Coulter William Coulter Andrew Clarke John Byrne John Conaghan Michael Cavanagh Owen Harvey Robert Corscadden James Cannon Patrick Blayney James Blayney Mathew Blayney Mary Byrne John Meehan Anne Scott James Fitzsimons Hugh Vance Bryan Meehan Charles Rowan Alex Coulter James Corscadden Janice

    12/11/2003 10:39:01
    1. [DONEGALEIRE] Dougherty/Doherty of Pensylvania
    2. Margaret I checked all the census at the Phila. Archives on both spellings Doherty and Dougherty. There was nothing on James and Susanna in 1910 or 1930 In 1920, I did find James Dougherty age 48, wife Susan 55 and Frances, dau. 25. They are the only James and Susan in Phila. in all the years I checked. I made a copy of the census and I can mail it to you. By the way, they were both born Ireland and James was a firemen at a oil refinery here. Frances was a pocketbook maker at a factory. If this isn't your James then he wasn't in Phila. Email me at janicefriel@aol.com with you address if you want the census. Janice

    12/11/2003 09:52:57
    1. [DONEGALEIRE] TAMNEY
    2. Julie
    3. I am a little confused with Tamney....is Tamney & Clondavaddog the same or is Tamney a Townland of Clondavaddog. Regards Julie

    12/11/2003 01:42:57