Here are some addresses that may help everyone in their research. Janice National Archives Bishop Street Dublin 8 Ireland (eire) Records include Church of Ireland parish records, gravestone incriptions, census returns, probate records, deeds, Title Applotment books, rebellion and outrage papers, convict reference files, and other historical and genealogical sources. Public Records Office of Northern Ireland 66 Balmoral Avenue Belfast BT9 6NY Northern Ireland Complete colof church records, all denominations, for all northern Ireland as well as some records for the counties of Donegal, Cavan, and Monaghan. National Library of Ireland Kildare Street Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) Main repository of filmed Catholic parish registers. Other records on deposit are newspapers, city and regional directories, estete records, the HOuseholders Index, and Griffith's Primary Valuation. The library's staff does not do commissioned searches. Genelogical Office 2 Kildare Street Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) Deals mainly with heraldry. Holdings include information extracted from records that were destroyed when Publc Record Office burned. These records are not available to the publ;ic. Some of the records have been microfilmed and these films may be available at other repositories. The office does offers a consultation service that gives detailed guidance, for a fee, to people who are doing research on their own families. Trinity College Library College Street Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) Among other genealogical and historical records, the Manuscripts Department of Trinity College Library has a collection of medieval manuscripts, the 1798 rebellion papers, and some Church of Ireland parish records for Dublin. Valuation Office 6 Ely Place Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) The office holds the Griffith's Primary Valuation records and accompanying maps. The office's post-1868 valuation records and maps are of the Republic of Ireland only.

Here are some addresses that may help everyone in their research. Janice National Archives Bishop Street Dublin 8 Ireland (eire) Records include Church of Ireland parish records, gravestone incriptions, census returns, probate records, deeds, Title Applotment books, rebellion and outrage papers, convict reference files, and other historical and genealogical sources. Public Records Office of Northern Ireland 66 Balmoral Avenue Belfast BT9 6NY Northern Ireland Complete colof church records, all denominations, for all northern Ireland as well as some records for the counties of Donegal, Cavan, and Monaghan. National Library of Ireland Kildare Street Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) Main repository of filmed Catholic parish registers. Other records on deposit are newspapers, city and regional directories, estete records, the HOuseholders Index, and Griffith's Primary Valuation. The library's staff does not do commissioned searches. Genelogical Office 2 Kildare Street Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) Deals mainly with heraldry. Holdings include information extracted from records that were destroyed when Publc Record Office burned. These records are not available to the publ;ic. Some of the records have been microfilmed and these films may be available at other repositories. The office does offers a consultation service that gives detailed guidance, for a fee, to people who are doing research on their own families. Trinity College Library College Street Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) Among other genealogical and historical records, the Manuscripts Department of Trinity College Library has a collection of medieval manuscripts, the 1798 rebellion papers, and some Church of Ireland parish records for Dublin. Valuation Office 6 Ely Place Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) The office holds the Griffith's Primary Valuation records and accompanying maps. The office's post-1868 valuation records and maps are of the Republic of Ireland only.

Hi Claire, I have copies of the Ordnance Survey Memoirs, don't think the Inishowen list is from that, but then since I can't remember the name of the report I can't be certain. Hopefully my cousin can call Conal Bryne and ask him the name of the report. Beannachtai, Margaret (Mairead) ----- Original Message ----- From: seekay@comcast.net To: conaught2@charter.net ; DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:39 AM Subject: Emigration Lists Margaret (Mairead) said: "There is also a report with many names of people leaving the Inishowen Peninsula for the U.S. I can't remember the name of the report..." Margaret, You may be thinking of the O.S. Memoirs, which vary by parish in how detailed they are, but for some (rare) parishes, there were lists of emigrants included. I have seen these lists extracted and published in other books, so you may have seen them in a secondary source, too. Volume 38 covers Inishowen; for details, see http://www.qub.ac.uk/iis/publications/OrdnanceSurveyMemoirs/Republic/RepublicVol38.htm Hope that helps. Claire K.

Hi Janice, No you didn't mention the Heritage Center. I was correcting something I had posted regarding the passenger lists from the Inishowen Peninsula. At first thought the list was at the Heritage Center on Bishop St. in Derry City. But I relooked at the notes and saw that all it said was Heritage Center Bishop Street. Beannachtai, Margaret (Maireasd) ----- Original Message ----- From: JANICEFRIEL@aol.com To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Emigration from Moville In a message dated 1/15/2004 12:26:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, conaught2@charter.net writes: Was assuming the Heritage Center was in Derry City, could be Dublin, it is on Bishop Street. Margaret (Mairead) margaret I thought I said the the National Archives was on Bishop St. I don't think I listed the Heritage Center. Janice ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== ************************************************************************ <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> Check out these Donegal Information Sites Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ Donegal Database- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Louise Here you it is. Janice http://www.immigrantships.net/

Does anyone know if passenger records from Moville are available, and where they're available? My McDaids didn't live far from Moville so I'm assuming they emigrated from there. I've been to the town myself, but didn't have time to do that kind of snooping. Thanks, Denise

Was assuming the Heritage Center was in Derry City, could be Dublin, it is on Bishop Street. Margaret (Mairead) ----- Original Message ----- From: conaught2 To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Emigration from Moville There is also a report with many names of people leaving the Inishowen Peninsula for the U.S. I can't remember the name of the report, but when I was in Donegal in 2002 I spoke with Conal Bryne the historian in Malin Town and he gave me some of the names. I was looking for my Great Grandfather's name. The following is a listing of just a couple of the names: 1857 Biddy Doherty 20 years old, Ballygorman; Ship - Elizabeth; destination - Philadelphia 1859 Margaret Doherty; Ballygorman; Ship - Mary Ann; destination St. John, Canada 1859 Bernard Doherty, Ship - Elizabeth 1859 Thomas Gorman 1859 Mary Doherty; Ballygorman The list is from the Heritage Center on Bishop Street, Derry City, County Derry. Somebody I know will be seeing Conal Brynes this summer and I will ask her to get a copy of the list. I should have done that when I saw him. Beannachtai, Margaret (Mairead) ----- Original Message ----- From: seekay@comcast.net To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:19 AM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Emigration from Moville Denise and list, Passenger lists are available in the country to which the passengers immigrated (generally, governments care about who is coming into the country, not who is leaving; Germany is a notable exception -- they kept some departure lists -- but the UK and Ireland follow the general rule). So, if your Moville people emigrated to the US, the records are in the US National Archives (NARA), by port of arrival and date; many of these records are indexed (smaller ports on the Atlantic and Gulf coasts are indexed together). See http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/immigrant_arrivals/passenger_records.html#where for details on NARA's immigration records. Records are available in Washington DC, at (certain) NARA regional offices, at some libraries, by mail, and through their microfilm purchase/rent programs. See http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm_catalogs/how_to_rent_microfilm.html for information on NARA's microfilm rental program. Most (all?) of these microfilms are also available through the LDS for viewing at your local FHC. Ancestry seems to be putting some of this data online, but their database is still far from complete. People like the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild -- http://www.immigrantships.net/ -- are putting scattere! d ! sh! ips lists online, but they have only a small fraction of passenger ship manifests online. If your people emigrated from Moville to somewhere in the UK, there is almost certainly no passenger list; you have to rely on other records. If your people went to Australia or Canada or elsewhere, you need to check those countries' holdings for passenger lists. Hope this helps. Claire Keenan Agthe Bloodlines Genealogical Research Services ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== To browse through the archives of the list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Visit my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.com/~donegaleire ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> Check out these Donegal Information Sites Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ Donegal Database- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

There is also a report with many names of people leaving the Inishowen Peninsula for the U.S. I can't remember the name of the report, but when I was in Donegal in 2002 I spoke with Conal Bryne the historian in Malin Town and he gave me some of the names. I was looking for my Great Grandfather's name. The following is a listing of just a couple of the names: 1857 Biddy Doherty 20 years old, Ballygorman; Ship - Elizabeth; destination - Philadelphia 1859 Margaret Doherty; Ballygorman; Ship - Mary Ann; destination St. John, Canada 1859 Bernard Doherty, Ship - Elizabeth 1859 Thomas Gorman 1859 Mary Doherty; Ballygorman The list is from the Heritage Center on Bishop Street, Derry City, County Derry. Somebody I know will be seeing Conal Brynes this summer and I will ask her to get a copy of the list. I should have done that when I saw him. Beannachtai, Margaret (Mairead) ----- Original Message ----- From: seekay@comcast.net To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:19 AM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Emigration from Moville Denise and list, Passenger lists are available in the country to which the passengers immigrated (generally, governments care about who is coming into the country, not who is leaving; Germany is a notable exception -- they kept some departure lists -- but the UK and Ireland follow the general rule). So, if your Moville people emigrated to the US, the records are in the US National Archives (NARA), by port of arrival and date; many of these records are indexed (smaller ports on the Atlantic and Gulf coasts are indexed together). See http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/immigrant_arrivals/passenger_records.html#where for details on NARA's immigration records. Records are available in Washington DC, at (certain) NARA regional offices, at some libraries, by mail, and through their microfilm purchase/rent programs. See http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm_catalogs/how_to_rent_microfilm.html for information on NARA's microfilm rental program. Most (all?) of these microfilms are also available through the LDS for viewing at your local FHC. Ancestry seems to be putting some of this data online, but their database is still far from complete. People like the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild -- http://www.immigrantships.net/ -- are putting scattered ! sh! ips lists online, but they have only a small fraction of passenger ship manifests online. If your people emigrated from Moville to somewhere in the UK, there is almost certainly no passenger list; you have to rely on other records. If your people went to Australia or Canada or elsewhere, you need to check those countries' holdings for passenger lists. Hope this helps. Claire Keenan Agthe Bloodlines Genealogical Research Services ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== To browse through the archives of the list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Visit my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.com/~donegaleire ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Janice, Thank you so very much for providing these two URLs. They help me a lot. Ernie

Iwould like the site for the Irish maps. Thanks iande63782@AOL.com

Here are additional map URL's, seems everyone is looking for maps. May be repeats didn't recheck list http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/ihm/ http://indigo.ie/~rcd/ http://www.multimap.com/ http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/map_index.html http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/reference/maps/main.asp http://www.calle.com/world/index.html http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/ http://www.dungarvanmuseum.org/exhibit/web/Display/category/10/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~eastwest/discoveryindex.html http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/ http://www.osi.ie/ http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ Bob

Janice, Would you please send me the URL for the census site. My daughter's husband's family comes from PA - I can't read the town name on the ship manifest and the family has forgotten the town name. I'd like to check ... Ernie Nashua, New Hampshire, USA

Janice, Please send me the URL for the map site. I'm interested especially in the Belfast maps as my wife's father came from Shankill Ward, Belfast. Ernie Nashua, New Hampshire, USA

A lot of ships with Donegal folks left from Moville (on Inishowen peninsula), then went on to Glasgow or London before heading across the Atlantic.

http://www.census-online.com/links/ Janice

OK everyone. Sorry for the problem. I didn't know there would be a problem and now that I can copy and paste, I will do that in the future. Janice

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/map_index.html

http://www.100megsfree3.com/levgen/cenindex.html

In a message dated 1/14/2004 2:48:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, lwarfield@DOE.K12.DE.US writes: Hi Janice - I would like that census site. Do you know what port people from County Donegal would most likely leave from? I heard about 1/2 of the immigrants left from Cobh but that is at the other end of the country. I am trying to find the ship my Baskin family came over on and when. There were no naturalization papers for them in PA which would have really helped. So I'll be trying other ways. Thanks for your help! Louise I think they left from Londonderry. Have you tried the Immigrants Transcribers ships guild, which gives a list of ship and passengers? I will send the census and if you want the ships just let me know. Janice

Janice at JANICEFRIEL@aol.com writes: << By the way, this is what is on the site of Ireland maps >> Janice, Why not just give us the URL, so we can see for ourselves what's there? That hyperlink stuff doesn't work on Digest forms of Rootsweb mailing lists. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts