Hi Pam Teroddy, in the Ordnance Survey Memoirs, belongs to Lord Wicklow, is about half a mile north of the Church of Taughboyne, it has arable 39, pasture or bog 40 acres. there is no cemetery in the townland of Teroddy. In the Parish of Taughboyne, there is a cemetery attached to the Church, belonging to the Church of Ireland. The other Church cemetery belongs to the Presbyterian Church in St Johnston. the Tithe Applottment Books are deposited in the Public Record Office Belfast. Northern Ireland. The National Archives in Dublin would have a copy as well. Hope this helps. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Gaudio" <gaudio@pacificcoast.net> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Taughboyne Parish > I have been reviewing all my notes for Taughboyne Parish and have a few questions. If anyone can help with some answers I'd appreciate hearing from you. > > Can anyone tell me if the monumental inscriptions have been recorded from any of the cemeteries in the townland of Tirroddy? I am particulary interested in the Taughboyne Parish area. > > I have the spelling of Tirroddy a couple of different ways - Terrody, Tirroddy - which is the correct spelling? > > Does anyone have access to the Tithe Applotment Books 1823-38 for Donegal or Londonderry? In case you are not sure what these are, here is a quick refresher. Tithe was a tax on agriculture land, paid by occupiers of all religious demonitations, to the clery of the Established Church of Ireland. It was like a farm census & generally excluded urban dwellers and labourers. Does anyone know where these records are kept. > > I was under the impression that the Duke of Abercorn was the owner of the lands of the townland of Tirroddy, but I now believe that I may be mistaken, can anyone help on this. > > Last question. The Taughboyne Census of Townlands for 1821 - Terrody is listed as having 105 Acres, 9 Houses, and 62 Inhabitants. On the 1857 Griffiths Valuation, the Townland of Tirroddy is listed as having 170 Acres and 8 Households. The number of households or houses is not important to me, but the number of Acres in the Townland is. Can anyone advise why there is a difference between 1821 of 105 acres and 1857 of 170 acres. > > Pam > > > > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > ************************************************************************ > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > Check out these Donegal Information Sites > Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm > O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ > Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ > Donegal Database- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html > Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >
The Tithe Applotments used Irish Acres. Griffith's Valuation used English or Statute Acres. One Irish Acre = 1.6 Statute acres. -Mike Sweeney Pam Gaudio wrote: > Last question. The Taughboyne Census of Townlands for 1821 - > Terrody is listed as having 105 Acres, 9 Houses, and 62 Inhabitants. > On the 1857 Griffiths Valuation, the Townland of Tirroddy is listed > as having 170 Acres and 8 Households. The number of households or > houses is not important to me, but the number of Acres in the Townland > is. Can anyone advise why there is a difference between 1821 of 105 > acres and 1857 of 170 acres.
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That townland isn't mentioned in the Ordance Survey, Parishes of County Donegal II, 1835/6. It does say that the proprietors are the Marquis of Londondeery, Earl of Wicklow, Marquis of Abercorn, Revd Mr. Leslie, James Saunderson Esquire, Patterson Esquire, William Squire, the heirs of the late William Law Esquire, William Stewart of Hornhead, Esquire, Charles Colhoon, William Ball Esquire. Janice
Joanne You know this whole family is listed at LDS right? Children Maggie, William, Mary, Kate, John and Hannah. I will look tomorrow in London Grove. What are you looking for? Janice
Hello I live very close to London Grove. Do you know where they are buried? Janice
I have been reviewing all my notes for Taughboyne Parish and have a few questions. If anyone can help with some answers I'd appreciate hearing from you. Can anyone tell me if the monumental inscriptions have been recorded from any of the cemeteries in the townland of Tirroddy? I am particulary interested in the Taughboyne Parish area. I have the spelling of Tirroddy a couple of different ways - Terrody, Tirroddy - which is the correct spelling? Does anyone have access to the Tithe Applotment Books 1823-38 for Donegal or Londonderry? In case you are not sure what these are, here is a quick refresher. Tithe was a tax on agriculture land, paid by occupiers of all religious demonitations, to the clery of the Established Church of Ireland. It was like a farm census & generally excluded urban dwellers and labourers. Does anyone know where these records are kept. I was under the impression that the Duke of Abercorn was the owner of the lands of the townland of Tirroddy, but I now believe that I may be mistaken, can anyone help on this. Last question. The Taughboyne Census of Townlands for 1821 - Terrody is listed as having 105 Acres, 9 Houses, and 62 Inhabitants. On the 1857 Griffiths Valuation, the Townland of Tirroddy is listed as having 170 Acres and 8 Households. The number of households or houses is not important to me, but the number of Acres in the Townland is. Can anyone advise why there is a difference between 1821 of 105 acres and 1857 of 170 acres. Pam
Hello James, Just send the questions. The S.A.E. is a good idea but most Donegal people would be happy to carry the price of a stamp. I'm not sure about the Duffys though...only joking James. Beannacht Dé, P.J. Ó Domhnaill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Duffy" <jduffy2@worldnet.att.net> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Postage information > I'm sending some queries to people in County Donegal and would like to include postage and a self addressed envelopes for their replies. Is it possible to find Irish postage in the US (we live in Texas)? Does anyone have information that can help? > Thanks, Joanne > > Thanks in advance for your > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > ************************************************************************ > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > Check out these Donegal Information Sites > Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm > O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ > Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ > Donegal Database- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html > Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >
Joanne The best way of doing this as far as I know is to buy " International Reply Coupons" Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Duffy" <jduffy2@worldnet.att.net> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Postage information > I'm sending some queries to people in County Donegal and would like to include postage and a self addressed envelopes for their replies. Is it possible to find Irish postage in the US (we live in Texas)? Does anyone have information that can help? > Thanks, Joanne > > Thanks in advance for your > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > ************************************************************************ > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > Check out these Donegal Information Sites > Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm > O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ > Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ > Donegal Database- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html > Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >
The URL below is for Irelands Post office site. You can purchase stamps, get postal rates, plus many other services Check it out . Just copy and past link. http://www.anpost.ie/personal/personal_philatelic.html Mike Harkins Columbus, Georgia
Not Donegal- but while we are on maps - this a good map site Federation of East European Family History Societies Map Room http://feefhs.org/maps/indexmap.html Maureen in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "hiflyte" <hiflyte@telus.net> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] MAP URL's Here are additional map URL's, seems everyone is looking for maps. May be repeats didn't recheck list http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/ihm/ http://indigo.ie/~rcd/ http://www.multimap.com/ http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/map_index.html http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/reference/maps/main.asp http://www.calle.com/world/index.html http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/ http://www.dungarvanmuseum.org/exhibit/web/Display/category/10/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~eastwest/discoveryindex.html http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/ http://www.osi.ie/ http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ Bob ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== Try searching the Obituaries at Rootsweb: Interactive search http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/obituary/obituary.pl To browse through the archives of the list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Visit my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.com/~donegaleire ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
Hello Jim & Listers Below is the Web page for Letterkenny Library. Muriel http://www.donegalcoco.ie/library.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "james kirkwood" <jim_kirkwood@yahoo.com> To: "muriel.sherlock" <muriel.sherlock@ntlworld.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] National Archives and Libraries > Do you know the URL ? Thanks JIM
I'm sending some queries to people in County Donegal and would like to include postage and a self addressed envelopes for their replies. Is it possible to find Irish postage in the US (we live in Texas)? Does anyone have information that can help? Thanks, Joanne Thanks in advance for your
In a message dated 1/15/2004 6:26:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, jduffy2@worldnet.att.net writes: Thanks for the website, Janice. We live in Austin Texas, USA. On my husband's paternal side we have a Mary DUFFY who married Charles FRIEL in St. Mary's RC Church, Cockhill, Buncrana, County Donegal in 1887. At some point they moved to Scotland. (A son, John, was born in Scotland in 1894.) If you have any info about this family, we'd love to hear it. Also any leads for research would be appreciated. Good luck in your continuing research, Joanne Joanne The reason I ask about where you lived was because I live in Chester Co., Pa. I will see what I can find out about your family since I'm here. Our Friel are from Beefpark, County Donegal. It is about 3 miles from Mountcharles and the town of Donegal. Some of our family also went to Scotland, but it was much earlier then your Charles. I will keep in touch. Janice
To the best of my knowledge Letterkenny Library don't take on paid research But they do have a web page so you could always email them. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: <JANICEFRIEL@aol.com> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] National Archives and Libraries > In a message dated 1/15/2004 2:55:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, Clavelli > writes: > I've been to the Letterkenny library on three occasions, but have always done > the research myself. Do they undertake (paid) research? > > Roseann > > I would think so. I would write them. All you ahve to lose is a stamp. > > Janice > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > To browse through the archives of the list go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Visit my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.com/~donegaleire > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >
Margaret (Mairead) said: "There is also a report with many names of people leaving the Inishowen Peninsula for the U.S. I can't remember the name of the report..." Margaret, You may be thinking of the O.S. Memoirs, which vary by parish in how detailed they are, but for some (rare) parishes, there were lists of emigrants included. I have seen these lists extracted and published in other books, so you may have seen them in a secondary source, too. Volume 38 covers Inishowen; for details, see http://www.qub.ac.uk/iis/publications/OrdnanceSurveyMemoirs/Republic/RepublicVol38.htm Hope that helps. Claire K.
In a message dated 1/15/2004 2:55:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, Clavelli writes: I've been to the Letterkenny library on three occasions, but have always done the research myself. Do they undertake (paid) research? Roseann I would think so. I would write them. All you ahve to lose is a stamp. Janice
Denise and list, Passenger lists are available in the country to which the passengers immigrated (generally, governments care about who is coming into the country, not who is leaving; Germany is a notable exception -- they kept some departure lists -- but the UK and Ireland follow the general rule). So, if your Moville people emigrated to the US, the records are in the US National Archives (NARA), by port of arrival and date; many of these records are indexed (smaller ports on the Atlantic and Gulf coasts are indexed together). See http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/immigrant_arrivals/passenger_records.html#where for details on NARA's immigration records. Records are available in Washington DC, at (certain) NARA regional offices, at some libraries, by mail, and through their microfilm purchase/rent programs. See http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm_catalogs/how_to_rent_microfilm.html for information on NARA's microfilm rental program. Most (all?) of these microfilms are also available through the LDS for viewing at your local FHC. Ancestry seems to be putting some of this data online, but their database is still far from complete. People like the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild -- http://www.immigrantships.net/ -- are putting scattered sh! ips lists online, but they have only a small fraction of passenger ship manifests online. If your people emigrated from Moville to somewhere in the UK, there is almost certainly no passenger list; you have to rely on other records. If your people went to Australia or Canada or elsewhere, you need to check those countries' holdings for passenger lists. Hope this helps. Claire Keenan Agthe Bloodlines Genealogical Research Services
In a message dated 1/15/2004 12:26:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, conaught2@charter.net writes: Was assuming the Heritage Center was in Derry City, could be Dublin, it is on Bishop Street. Margaret (Mairead) margaret I thought I said the the National Archives was on Bishop St. I don't think I listed the Heritage Center. Janice
Here are some addresses that may help everyone in their research. Janice National Archives Bishop Street Dublin 8 Ireland (eire) Records include Church of Ireland parish records, gravestone incriptions, census returns, probate records, deeds, Title Applotment books, rebellion and outrage papers, convict reference files, and other historical and genealogical sources. Public Records Office of Northern Ireland 66 Balmoral Avenue Belfast BT9 6NY Northern Ireland Complete colof church records, all denominations, for all northern Ireland as well as some records for the counties of Donegal, Cavan, and Monaghan. National Library of Ireland Kildare Street Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) Main repository of filmed Catholic parish registers. Other records on deposit are newspapers, city and regional directories, estete records, the HOuseholders Index, and Griffith's Primary Valuation. The library's staff does not do commissioned searches. Genelogical Office 2 Kildare Street Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) Deals mainly with heraldry. Holdings include information extracted from records that were destroyed when Publc Record Office burned. These records are not available to the publ;ic. Some of the records have been microfilmed and these films may be available at other repositories. The office does offers a consultation service that gives detailed guidance, for a fee, to people who are doing research on their own families. Trinity College Library College Street Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) Among other genealogical and historical records, the Manuscripts Department of Trinity College Library has a collection of medieval manuscripts, the 1798 rebellion papers, and some Church of Ireland parish records for Dublin. Valuation Office 6 Ely Place Dublin 2 Ireland (eire) The office holds the Griffith's Primary Valuation records and accompanying maps. The office's post-1868 valuation records and maps are of the Republic of Ireland only.