In the Index to Wills in the of Diocese of Raphoe, 1684-1858 there is a reference to William Patton, 1794, Brachey. Can anyone throw any light on where Brachey is, please? Alex

Hi list, Is anyone researching the following immigrant(s) who were b. in Co. Donegal, Ireland & migrated to the USA before 1860? There are (269) Naturalization Records in Delaware Co., Pennsylvania (PA) for the following person(s) b. in Co. Donegal: G - L GALAUGHER, William GALLAGHER, Charles (2) John (2) Patrick James GARVEN, John GIBBONS, Patrick GLACKIN, Neal GORMAN, Michael GREEN, Hugh GRIER, William GRIFFITH, Archibold GRIFFITHS, Andrew HARKIN, James HARMAN, John (b. Bangor) HAROLD, John HARRON, John HAZELETT, Samuel HEGGARTY, Barney HODGE, John HOLMES, Alexander Thomas HOUGHTON, Edward HUME, William HUMES, Thomas JOHNSON, Geogre Samuel KELLEY, Daniel James John KELLY, Dane James Michael Philip KENNEDY, Robert KILLPATRICK, Robert LANEY, Neal LARKEY, John LENNEY, James LENNY, Edward Hugh John Michael Neal LESLIE, Josias LYNCH, Neal LYONS, John Please contact me directly if you are interested in any of these immigrants who's names appear here & have a connection to Dela. Co., PA. I will do a lookup for you in the Naturalization index records for these name(s) only! Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) HMWEBBER@aol.com =====================================

HAve been offline for a while due to server trouble or I'd have replied sooner. In 1842 there was a Royal Commission on the mines in Britain and the Reorts covered the whole country (whicch included Ireland then). The Commissioners interviwed miners, children who worked in mines, people emplyed at all levels, and the interviews were reproduced in full. There was an article in Irish Roots magazine a whilke ago, and the Reports are available - mayv=be someone could spot an ancestor. I'll try to dig out the article if anyone wants more information. Meanwhile, if you try the National Mining Resource Centre, the website lista all (coal) mines in Britain from 1860s, so Irish coalmines would be included. The Commissioners' Rehorts are available as well, but on;y for England, Scotland and Wales. TGere are also websites that deal with mining in Ireland, so just get the old search engine primed! CArolyn on 8/2/04 9:21 pm, McFadden at McFadden@ntlworld.com wrote: > <!-- SNIP --> > Similarly, my Donegal ancestors, who came from an agricultural background in > Ireland, found work in Glasgow in the 1840's in the Iron foundaries. > . . . > I'll post the little detail I have on the above to anyone interested. <!-- > ENDSNIP --> > > Yes please Michael! > > Thanks in advance > > Slan > Henry > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 06/02/2004 > > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > ************************************************************************ > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > Check out these Donegal Information Sites > Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm > O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ > Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ > Donegal Database- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html > Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Have updated the Donegal Griffith Evaluation file on my site with surnames beginning with "L" The second "L" page has surnames Mc L------ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ Hope they help some members Bob Cdn.

Henry, ...and you are speaking MY language..... Thanks for the blurb on Donegal distilleries in Donegaleire, most informative. Love that Poitin. My cousin in Dublin hasn't been able to find it at the Dublin airport to bring it to me on her past several visits....so here I sit with my tongue hanging out. Now to the McFADDENS....My grandfather, John Sturges Walford, an Englishman from London, met and married an Irish girl, Sarah "Sally" Kelly, from Letterkenny in the US in 1889. They had three children. In about 1904, Sally longed for the 'auld sod' so they went TO Ireland and built a home on her father Charley Kelly's land in Breenaugh, just outside of Letterkenny. My father, John Sturges Walford, went to St Eunan's School there. His brother and sister married brother and sister McFaddens. ... Charles Walford married Elizabeth McFadden and Annie Walford married Hugh McFadden. The Walford home "Glen Villa " is still in Breenagh, now owned by the Quinns Does any of this ring a bell with you? Are we cousins, perhaps double cousins???? I'll drink to that! Eugenia Walford Gannon (age 85) Southern California

Hi list, Is anyone researching the following immigrant(s) who were b. in Co. Donegal, Ireland & migrated to the USA before 1860? There are (269) Naturalization Records in Delaware Co., Pennsylvania (PA) for the following person(s) b. in Co. Donegal: D - F DERMOND, Patrick (DESMOND?) DEVER, James John Thomas (DEVEN?) William DEVON, John DIVER, William DOHERTY, Daniel James John (2) Philip Thomas DONAGHOE, Michael DONNELL, Patrick O. DOUGHERTY, Barney Dan Daniel (2) Dudley Edward Hugh James (4) John (2) Michael Neal Patrick (2) Philip (2) DUFFEY, Patrick DUGIN, Farrigal DUNCAN, William EWING, Francis John Samuel William (2) FARAN, John FARREN, Daniel Patrick FRIAR, Dennis John FRIECE, Dennis FRIEL, Hugh John Patrick FULLERTON, James Please contact me directly if you are interested in any of these immigrants who's names appear here. I will do a lookup for you in the Naturalization index records of Delaware Co., PA for these name(s) only! Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) HMWEBBER@aol.com

Hi List(s), I do not mind doing lookups for the Irish immigrants who came from Co. Donegal & were naturalized in Delaware Co., PA! But please do NOT ask me to give you all the COLLINs or all the BONNERs just incase they may fit somewhere in your family line. I usually receive an e-mail back telling me, "thank you but no connection -- will put this in my files for future use." If you have background info on each individual -- like the following: 1. An approximate year of immigration 2. An approximate year of birth 3. A census record of all COLLINs or all BONNERs living in the same household or proximity "in Delaware Co., PA." Then I will do a lookup for ALL BONNERs - ALL COLLINs. This helps me narrow the search down for the family you are looking for. Hence, then I know all the BONNERs are all the COLLINs you asked for are related. Please do NOT ask for a lookup for a name NOT on the list. Please do NOT ask for a wife's name to be lookedup -- females were NOT naturalized before 1860. Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

Alice asked "if my relative was a member of the British Navy where would I find records as far back as 1790's?" Alice, I see that you've gotten some replies to this, including Rachel's expert advice on records at Kew. I just recently was looking for info on someone who was in the Royal Navy in 1812, so close to the same time period you're looking for, and had bad luck. My guy was listed in an Ancestry database "Commissioned Officers in the Royal Navy" with a date (of promotion? it wasn't clear) and rank and I hoped I could use that info to access Kew records from afar (US). The online catalog just frustrated me (I don't have enough experience with it to figure out the organizational system), so I dealt with Kew by email. Unfortunately, the folks at Kew told me the only way to access Royal Navy records in that time period is to go to Kew personally, where you can search in some preliminary indexes (I forget now if they were books, cards, or what), which in turn will tell you what records to search. Assuming you aren't in the London area and/or aren't planning to be, you may be out of luck. I doubt that your records (20 years earlier than mine) are any easier to access from afar than mine were, but it's possible. Maybe you'll have better luck with their catalog than I did, too. Hope that helps (and isn't too depressing). May your luck be different from mine! Claire K.

Several years ago I tried to find information on my ancestor in "Queen Victoria's Navy", as family lore had it. This was in the time period around 1834. After rather extensive investigation, the upshot was that I should hire someone local to do the research for me. Haven't gotten around to do that, but had several recommendations sent to me. Marilyn Mills Hesse marilynhesse@comcast.net Windsor, CT, USA website at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mmhesse/ Researching HAMILTON in Co.Donegal, Co. Antrim, and Liverpool. ............................................. > Alice asked "if my relative was a member of the British Navy where would I find records as far back as 1790's?" > > Alice, > I see that you've gotten some replies to this, including Rachel's expert advice on records at Kew. I just recently was looking for info on someone who was in the Royal Navy in 1812, so close to the same time period you're looking for, and had bad luck. > > My guy was listed in an Ancestry database "Commissioned Officers in the Royal Navy" with a date (of promotion? it wasn't clear) and rank and I hoped I could use that info to access Kew records from afar (US). The online catalog just frustrated me (I don't have enough experience with it to figure out the organizational system), so I dealt with Kew by email. Unfortunately, the folks at Kew told me the only way to access Royal Navy records in that time period is to go to Kew personally, where you can search in some preliminary indexes (I forget now if they were books, cards, or what), which in turn will tell you what records to search. > > Assuming you aren't in the London area and/or aren't planning to be, you may be out of luck. I doubt that your records (20 years earlier than mine) are any easier to access from afar than mine were, but it's possible. Maybe you'll have better luck with their catalog than I did, too. Hope that helps (and isn't too depressing). May your luck be different from mine! > > Claire K.

You don't give a rank or name for your ancestor in the Royal Navy. Most of the records are held in the National Archives in Kew in London and that far back it may not be easy. Try www.pro.gov.uk and go to their bookshop. They have a number of books on history, genealogy and the Forces. One I have is Naval records for genealogists by NAM Rodger. To consult the catalogue go to http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk In the 'Search' box enter your ancestor's name and then the dates approximately in the second box. In the third put ADM. This will restrict your search to naval records. I tried it with 'Long' which brings up every mention of 'long' as an adjective - long storehouse. But keep going and some personal names come up. Of course if you know his full name the search would produce less hits too. You would still have to consult the actual records in Kew . Rachel snip................ Any books to read? Also, if my relative was a member of the British Navy where would I find records as far back as 1790's?Thanks again. Alice > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > Try searching the Obituaries at Rootsweb: Interactive search > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/obituary/obituary.pl > To browse through the archives of the list go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Visit my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.com/~donegaleire > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Jim, We had a Judge Mundy here in Wilkes-Barre (perhaps a relative of yours) some time back and his campaign slogan was "Vote for Mundy on Tuesday"! I always thought that was pretty good. Curious to know the location (Hazleton area) of your family and when they emigrated. Have done some work for a friend in Glenties who seemed interested in the Mundy families that located here. The search centered around the Gallagher and Kennedy surnames (both from Glenties) but he must have Mundy connections also. My own grandfather, Patrick Boyle came from Maas, Glenties in the 1890's. John Dougherty ----- Original Message ----- From: "James G Mundie" <jimandkatemundie@juno.com> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 12:41 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Re: mining > Prior experience in mining was not necessary to becoming a miner in the > United Sates. So far as I know, none of my Donegal ancestors had worked > in any sort of mine prior to settling in northeastern Pennsylvania > (around Hazleton PA), but most of them found employment mining coal. In > fact, my greatgrandfather died in a mine accident. > > Mining was simply hard, dirty, dangerous work, and - like canal digging > and railroad work - among the few occupations available to recent > immigrants. The Irish were often seen as a source of cheap and expendable > labor. It puts me in mind of a lyric from the recent song "Far Away > Boys" by the band Flogging Molly: > > We buried four workmen/ > They dug themselves well/ > >From four empty coffins, to four early graves. > They're only paddys, just paddys/ > Don't dig them too deep/ > You'll need all your strength, boys/ > And they're replaced easily. > > Regards, > Jim > - researching MUNDIE (MUNDY, McLOONE, MacALOON, MacLUAIN, Mac GIOLLA > UAIN) from Glenties > > ________________________________________ > James Mundie > Philadelphia PA, U.S.A. > Prodigies: Anomalous Humans by James G. Mundie > http://www.missioncreep.com/mundie/images/ > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > To browse through the archives of the list go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Visit my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.com/~donegaleire > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Alice said: "Derry (Irish) is a border Twp. between Co. Donegal and Co. Londonderry....Derry/Londonderry family history Centre in Derry where I have a form to fill out, as best I can, to send in with $50.00 for info....has anyone sent in this kind of a from...good map on the web that shows counties and town locations for Derry?..." Alice, I'm not sure where you're from, but from your ISP, I'm assuming it's either the US or Canada, so I'll explain this in US terms. Derry/Londonderry is both the name of an Irish county (similar to a US state) and a city within that county (so, similar to New York city being in New York state). For both Derry and NY, there is more to the county/state than just the city (i.e., they are not co-terminus). Whether you refer to it (either city or county) as Derry or as Londonderry is a political/religious/historical issue; some refer to it as Derry/Londonderry, others as L'derry. It is not a "border township" -- NI (like the Republic of Ireland) does not have townships. I've noticed some Americans tend to use "township" when they mean "townland," but Derry/Londonderry is much more than a townland. All of which is my attempt to clarify your first statement above. As for the "Derry/Londonderry Family History Center" you refer to, I assume you mean the County Derry/Londonderry Genealogy Centre? (see http://www.irishroots.net/Derry.htm which does indeed have a form for you to click on). This is the official, government-sponsored genealogy center for Derry and, unlike other county's official centers, has an excellent reputation. There is also a Derry/Londonderry Family History Center (i.e., a research facility provided by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), but FHCs are places where you can order films in order to do your own research, not a place where there is a form/$50 fee. Just an example of why it's important to be precise in using the names of institutions -- there are a lot out there that sound alike. As for maps of Counties, Baronies, Parishes, etc. in Northern Ireland, and definitions of same, the first place to start is at PRONI's website, http://proni.nics.gov.uk/ -- specifically, http://proni.nics.gov.uk/geogindx/geogindx.htm . Another good place for general Irish research info, as well as county-specific research info and maps, is http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/sitemap.htm (based on John Grenham's TRACING YOUR IRISH ANCESTORS, 2nd ed.). Hope that helps. Claire K. in the US

Der Muriel, Most universities have lists of their alumni - you could try contacting the University of Toronto to see if they can help. Regards, Jeanette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "muriel.sherlock" <muriel.sherlock@ntlworld.com> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] can anyone help > Hi listers. > My Gt- Uncle, Joseph Benjamin Graham, emigrated to Canada and studied at > Toronto University. He became a druggist. > Does anyone know whether there is a list of pupils sometime after 1898. > > Many thanks > Muriel > > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > Try searching the Obituaries at Rootsweb: Interactive search > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/obituary/obituary.pl > To browse through the archives of the list go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Visit my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.com/~donegaleire > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi list, Is anyone researching the following immigrant(s) who were b. in Co. Donegal, Ireland & migrated to the USA before 1860? There are (269 in all) Naturalization Records in Delaware Co., Pennsylvania (PA) for the following male(s) b. in Co. Donegal: Co. Donegal, Ireland A - C ADAMS, Thomas BLACKWOOD, Thomas Wm BONER, Daniel Neal BONNER, Barney Edward John Owen BOYLE, Charles John Manuel BRADLEY, David Patrick BRODLEY, Thomas BUCHANAN, Alexander BURNEY, Charles CALHOUN, Thomas CAMPBELL, James CARR, Barney Francis John (2) Michael Thomas CATHCART, George CLARK, Andrew John COLLINS, Charles Daniel James William COULTER, James James, Jr. COYLE, William CRAIGHTON, James CRAWFORD, Samuel (2) CRAXTON, John CREIGHTON, Patrick (CREYTON) CROSSAN, William CULBERT, Moses (b. Letterkenny) Please contact me directly if you are interested in any of these immigrants who's names appear here. I will do a lookup for you in the Naturalization index records of Delaware Co., PA for these name(s) only! Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) HMWEBBER@aol.com

You all have been wonderful. My Irish education has soared in the last 12 hours. I now know that Derry (Irish) is a border Twp. between Co. Donegal and Co. Londonderry. The parish is not Drumhouse, it is Drumachose. I have been given the site of Derry/Londonderry family history Centre in Derry where I have a form to fill out, as best I can, to send in with $50.00 for info. My question is: has anyone sent in this kind of a from and gotten any results or is there another root I might take that's less expensive and quicker. Also does someone know of a good map on the web that shows counties and town locations for Derry? Anything else you can send my way in the form of Education for the area would be great. Any books to read? Also, if my relative was a member of the British Navy where would I find records as far back as 1790's?Thanks again. Alice

This is the site you can use to check Royal Navy records, however it will be no help for that time period. The records during this period, they are listed in a time frame and includes the Napoleonis Wars, are listed by the name of the ship. If you don't know that, there are approximately 10,000 ships in this time frame. I started checking as there was menyin that several family members were "impressed" during the wars. That was what I discovered when I requested informaation. Mike Harkins Columbus, GA Click here: Royal Navy : Home http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/

Hi Alice, Here's one link to a Derry Parish Map http://www.ancestryireland.co.uk/index.php?filename=map_derry Good luck! Dan DONEGALEIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > >You all have been wonderful. My Irish education has soared in the last 12 hours. I now know that Derry (Irish) is a border Twp. between Co. Donegal and Co. Londonderry. The parish is not Drumhouse, it is Drumachose. I have been given the site of Derry/Londonderry family history Centre in Derry where I have a form to fill out, as best I can, to send in with $50.00 for info. My question is: has anyone sent in this kind of a from and gotten any results or is there another root I might take that's less expensive and quicker. Also does someone know of a good map on the web that shows counties and town locations for Derry? Anything else you can send my way in the form of Education for the area would be great. Any books to read? Also, if my relative was a member of the British Navy where would I find records as far back as 1790's?Thanks again. Alice > >

Thanks, Jeanette I'll do that. Muriel ----- Original Message ----- From: "J de Montalk" <jmdemontalk@clear.net.nz> To: "muriel.sherlock" <muriel.sherlock@ntlworld.com>; <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] can anyone help > Der Muriel, > > Most universities have lists of their alumni - you could try contacting the > University of Toronto to see if they can help. > > Regards, > Jeanette. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "muriel.sherlock" <muriel.sherlock@ntlworld.com> > To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:45 AM > Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] can anyone help > > > > Hi listers. > > My Gt- Uncle, Joseph Benjamin Graham, emigrated to Canada and studied at > > Toronto University. He became a druggist. > > Does anyone know whether there is a list of pupils sometime after 1898. > > > > Many thanks > > Muriel > > > > > > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > > Try searching the Obituaries at Rootsweb: Interactive search > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/obituary/obituary.pl > > To browse through the archives of the list go to > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > Visit my homepage at http://freepages.genealogy.com/~donegaleire > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >

I am new to this site and doing reseach for Ireland. I hope that someone might be able to help me or give me direction. My family is from 10 Miles outside (I don't know which direction)of Londonderry, Co Donegal. My family name is LONG. My Irish ancester was a Patrick Long b.1748 Londonderry, he was the son of Stephen Long. Patrick married an Elizabeth Stewart b. 1751, her father was David Stewart. They were married 28 Sep 1783 in Drumhouse Parish, Co. Donegal. Patrick and Elizabeth emigrated to Penn in 1791, and in 1795 continued on to Ontario, Canada. I understand that they raised Thoroughbred Horses in Londonderry and in 1970 the farm was still in operation as an Uncle went to visit the family. Can anyone help with information on this family/farm location or give me direction in locating it myself. Thank you for your assistance. Alice Fox-Radcliff

Ah Mary, fine girl ye are! Now you’re talking my language! Sláinte agus saol chugat! (Health and long life to you) If you’re suggesting legal distilleries, then none! If you mean real Donegal Poitin, then most everywhere. Early 1800s . . . Poitin made up the entire spirit stock in Donegal shebeens and licensed publicans in towns also sold large quantities. While this was partly due to the demand for the mellower tasting illicit spirit, a more important consideration was the difference in price between it and the harsh-tasting "government whiskey." In 1808, when the wholesale price of a gallon of legal spirits was 8/-, Inishowen poitin could be obtained for between 4/-and 5/-; in 1810, the comparative prices were 4/6 and 9/-; and in 1816, 7/6 and 11/-. In 1823, when licensed distillers sold their product for 9/-a gallon, 6/- of this was duty. By contrast, the illicit distiller was content to receive about 3/- for his duty-free product, which the publican then sold for up to 5/-. Poitin was initially difficult to conceal, particularly in the period 1806 -1823, when the taste of government whiskey, manufactured hurriedly from raw corn, differed radically from the mellower, malt-based illicit spirit. But 1823 distilling law changes saw an increase in the amount of legal Scotch whisky available in Ireland and, as it and poitin had a similar taste, small legal purchases expanded miraculously behind Donegal public house counters. The quality of Scotch had caught up with that of Donegal poitin, which in turn owed much of its reputation to the skill of legal distillers of earlier days. Legal distillers had made whiskey for public consumption in Donegal since 1662. Initially, the distiller wasn't required to inform the authorities and, when discovered, simply reached an agreement with the revenue officer as to a fair amount to pay bi-annually in excise taxes. He could then manufacture as much as he wished. Presbyterians dominated the industry, at least in the period 1730-82. Very few Catholics distilled legally, in part because comparatively few lived within market towns' confines, in general because those who did invariably did not have the capital to begin such an operation. These legal Donegal distillers were a diverse group. Some were involved in the industry for decades. The Armstrong family, of Murlog near Lifford, distilled regularly in the period 1730-68, the Harrises of Ramelton, in the years 1748-69 and Henry Dinsmore of Dunfanaghy, from 1751 until 1768. Many had tempestuous relationships with local revenue officials. In 1733, Armstrong of Murlog had his nephew assault Strabane excise surveyor James Nugent, for "seizing aqua vitae from his distillery." The authorities convicted the nephew of assault and transported him as a vagabond. Five years later, Armstrong himself was convicted of shooting at another officer who wished to inspect his distillery. Etc. Etc. Céard a bhéas agat? (What’ll ye be having?) Sláinte Henry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 06/02/2004