Now I have traced my Scotch-Irish ancestors to Ireland from Scotland. The mother of my immigrant great grandfather, was born in Ireland, a McFadyen, and I understand that it is likely they lived in County Donegal. Her husband, my gg grandfather, Thomas Muir (Muar?) died sometime between 1857 (birth of their second son in Ireland) and the time of the wedding of their oldest son, Thomas, in 1872, in Glasgow, Scotland. Thus, my search is twofold. I am familiar with the Land Reform era, but am seeking further insight as to what may have been associated with the death of Thomas in Ireland, prompting an Irish-born mother to move to Scotland in that time period. Also, what are the possibilities of finding a death record for Thomas in that time period? Thanks. Gene

Patrick at pstone8@msn.com writes: << An ancestress of mine was baptized in 1886 in a Church of St. Columb[a], "Bailinacrae". I'm trying to determine the exact location of that church. >> Patrick, I'm sure there are others on this list who are much more familiar with the recent church structure of Inishowen, but I may have an idea on this one. According to the Discovery map no. 3, there is a church next to a minor road a bit more than 3 miles NNW of Moville (585 431 on the map). The Townland Index map of this area shows that it was an RC church at the time of the development of the six-inch maps, i.e. about 1840. I would assume that the current church is the same or a replacement. In any case, it is likely to still be RC. It is located in the townland of Carrowblagh, also known as Leckemy. There is no indication of the word Ballinacrae on either the TI or the Discovery maps, so I would guess this is an "unofficial" placename. I don't think I have any more information on this, nor do I have any cemetery location associated with this church. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Hello, list -- An ancestress of mine was baptized in 1886 in a Church of St. Columb[a], "Bailinacrae". I'm trying to determine the exact location of that church. She later lived in Balleeghan, Greencastle, Lower Moville. The entry in *Lewis's Topographical Dictionary* for Lower Moville mentions Roman Catholic chapels at Ballybrack and "Ballynacree". Googling produces St. Mary's, Ballybrack, and St. Columba's, "Ballincrae" -- though, unlike Ballybrack, Ballincrae doesn't seem to be the name of a townland -- as well as a St. Pius X in Moville and a St. Columba's in Drung, County Donegal. CatholicIreland.net lists, for Moville, St. Mary's, Ballybrack; St. [Pius] X, Moville; and St. Columba's, Ballinacrae. Would any of you be able to help me sort this out? Is Ballincrae the modern/"official" name? Is this a town, or an area, or...? Is there a map available that would show the location of Ballincrae and/or St. Columba's? And, of course, the next step, fingers crossed: what would be the nearest or most likely cemetery? With thanks, Patrick Stone

Is there anyone searching the above family in Donegal? I have Mc Shaffery family leaving Carndonagh in 1859 to NB Canada and then to NYC. Mary age 40, Ann age 20, Bernard age 15, Ann age 17, Mary age 6 months, John age 17. Is there a list of Catholic parishes in Carndonagh? Any help is greatly appreciated. Barbara

Barbara, For your info, not the actual family you wanted by one would suspect they are connected I have NO connection or other info on this surname. Bob Cdn. ================================ MCSHAFFREY, Edward Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 Oct 1871 Birthplace: 142,carndonagh,don,ire Recorded in: Donegal, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Edward MCSHAFFREY Mother: Nancey MCCALLION Source: FHL Film 255833 Dates: 1871 - 1872 ><SNIP> Is there anyone searching the above family in Donegal? >I have Mc Shaffery family leaving Carndonagh in 1859 > >

do the towns chelsea-revere-wintrop Ma.. mean anything to your Searches if so you need to join the MACHELSEA-L mailing list Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning

This may be a duplicate - computer acting up again! ----- Original Message ----- From: Ellen Langan To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 11:44 AM Subject: Typhus victims Sometime after the 1901 Donegl (Main Street) census and before the 1911 one, my great-grandmother Bridget (Boyle) Martin died of typhus. She left husband Neil Martin and five children (my grandfather John Martin was one of them). I was wondering if there were any records of the victims of the fever and any restrictions on place of burial. I would be grateful if someone could clear this up for me. Take care, Ellen

Sometime after the 1901 Donegl (Main Street) census and before the 1911 one, my great-grandmother Bridget (Boyle) Martin died of typhus. She left husband Neil Martin and five children (my grandfather John Martin was one of them). I was wondering if there were any records of the victims of the fever and any restrictions on place of burial. I would be grateful if someone could clear this up for me. Take care, Ellen

A copy of the book about Dr. William Smith is currently on Ebay He was born on March 30, 1859, at Stonepark, Mountcharles See . . . http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6901720954 A HERO OF DONEGAL - DR. WILLIAM SMYTH by FREDERICK DOUGLAS HOW, with eight illustrations. London: ISBISTER AND COMPANY LTD., 15 & 16 TAVISTOCK STREET, COVENT GARDEN. 1902. First edition. Green cloth covered hard back boards, 146 pages. 7.75 inches tall. Brown spotting to endpapers, some some finger marks in the text but especially the blank front endpaper. One of the photographic illustrations is half detached and has a very dark long mark along its bottom edge on the blank side of the sheet (the photos are full page and have nothing on the other sides.) A scarce book about an Irish typhoid doctor. The following paragraphs give a good account of the book: William Smyth was born on March 30, 1859, at Stonepark, Mountcharles. His father, Dr. Samuel Smyth, a native of Argrey, Raphoe, was dispensary doctor to the district for a period of 40 years, his patients being mainly small farmers struggling for a bare existence and unable to pay for medical aid. Dr. Samuel's wife was the daughter of Mr. Hugh Scott, Mountcharles. William was the eldest son in a family of eight and at the time of his death only one brother and two sisters survived him. Up to the age of ten William was educated by his parents and from 10-13 & 1/2 he received formal lessons from a Mr. Willis, Mountcharles. From thence he went to the Royal School, Raphoe, and entered Trinity College Dublin, at the age of seventeen. He is described then as being 6'2" in height, handsome, direct in speech and without affectation of any kind. He delighted in athletic skills, including boxing. He took the degrees of Licentiate in Midwifery and Licentiate and Member of the Royal College of Surgeons, completing the course in a year before the minimum age for granting diplomas. He caught smallpox while "walking the hospital" and recovered. He was only twenty-one when appointed to the dispensary district of Ardara. And in 1882, following the death of Dr. Spencer from typhus, he applied for the then vacant dispensaries of Dungloe and Burtonport, then classed as a congested district and including a number of small islands. For the benefit of members not acquainted with the area, the following is a contemporary description of the Rosses: In the Rosses (Na Rosai), meaning promontories or peninsulas, it is difficult to tell whether the long, rocky shore is an island or is joined to the mainland by a narrow neck. And between the bays of Gweebarra and Gweedore there are countless loughs, narrow and intricate, winding among the rocks and hills. Often the road passes close between the shores of the two and has to bend and turn to suit their involutions. There are numerous long, low, grey and white little houses with weather-stained thatch and there is no way of telling whether they are lived in. To explain why there are numberless little houses in this apparently wild and uninhabited land, firstly, their colours exactly blends with their surroundings. The yellow and brown of the thatch is often invisible against the brown of the rushes and grass. The greystone and white walls marked with green algae stains are a repetition in colour of the grey and white boulders with their patches of moss and lichen. There are no fences. What the casual observer has at first mistaken for bits of brown bog turn out to be spade-dug potato patches. These have nothing to separate them from the rest øf the hillside and so it is impossible for sheep to be kept. The colour of the houses and the absence of fencing accounts for the apparently uninhabited appearance of the country. It is necessary to go out after dark to get an impression of the swarming populations. At this time the solitude is suddenly peopled and one sees that it is indeed on of the Congested Districts which cause the authorities the gravest perplexities. Neither shutters or blinds are known and a lamp is put in the window as soon as darkness sets in. (F.D. How, A Hero of Donegal, London, 1902). It was generally believed that the men returning from harvesting operations in Scotland brought the dreaded infection of typhus with them, and from time to time the local doctors had to cope with yet another outbreak. There were many deaths among the people and those who could be persuaded to help. People were so terrified of "the fever" however, that nursing was mainly done by priest and doctor who had to do everything including coffining the dead. At that time fishing as a means of livelihood did not exist. The money brought back from Scotland was the main income for the year. All trade was carried out on the credit system, the debt to the store being paid on the return of the breadwinner. Later Father Bernard Walker, aided by Dr. Smyth and Mr. Hammond, agent to the Marquis Conyngham, initiated a scheme to improve the fishing industry. Nets were procured and men to demonstrate how to use them and repair them, and arrangements made for the curing, salting and disposal of the fish. One of the open fishing boats then in use brought in thirty to forty baskets of herrings, each worth from five shillings upwards, when sold by auction on the pier. These three gentlemen worked to improve conditions in various ways. Mr. Hammond succeeded in reducing the charge of half-a-crown per cwt. on everything carried by sea from Londonderry and was later able to get a sailing ship to bring goods at sixpence per cwt. Afterwards came steamboats which enabled goods to be brought in for less cost still. Another practice which they managed to stop concerned the payment of overdue rents. When rents were overdue the bailiffs would go out on a given day and drive in every four-footed beast to be sold to pay the money owing. They would call out: "Give a shilling per beast and we will let them go for a month." The shillings would be paid and doubtless went into their pockets. By their influence these three men put a stop to this system of extortion. After his appointment, Dr. Smyth settled at Roshine Lodge, Burtonport, and in April 1883, he married a girl he had known since his school days, Miss Esther McKeown, daughter of a local merchant. His reputation as a doctor, surgeon, friend and counsellor was soon established. His work included amputations in primitive conditions, travelling many miles by horse and side-car through rugged and hilly terrain to difficult cases and often returning to see how the patient was progressing the same day, bringing with him the materials for food and nourishment. During an epidemic of smallpox he vaccinated 700 people in two weeks in addition to his normal work. Sometimes he had to spend half the night in small dark cabins without much ventilation. On leaving, someone would seize a piece of glowing turf from the fire as a torch and precede the doctor to where the pony and outside car were waiting. His dispensaries included Gweedore and Arranmore Island, to which he went by boat. Serious cases were brought to his home where his wife could prepare suitable nourishment. Only those with an intimate knowledge of conditions in the Rosses in those times could appreciate the hardships for doctor and patient. In 1889 his unusual strength and energy gave way and he was advised to take a long sea voyage. His friends, fearing that he had undermined his own health while looking after theirs, subscribed £100 towards the voyage (his salary was only £100 per annum) and he was given leave of absence by the Glenties Board of Guardians. Before he left, Father Bernard Walker, his friend and parish priest of Burtonport said: "I am at a loss for words to express my estimate of his worth. In his profession he has been eminently successful; he has secured the abiding confidence of the community in the many and varied cases which came before him, for alone and unaided he had to attend to all their ills - a population o some 12,000 scattered over a district of some fourteen miles radius." He was presented with an illuminated address reflecting the esteem of the people of the two parishes-a remarkable tribute to a young man still in his twenties and only seven years in the district. He sailed from Londonderry in October, 1889, for Quebec and travelled through Canada to Vancouver, returning on "The Dochra" on Dec.26, and arriving in Liverpool on 12th May, 1890-a voyage of four and a half months. During the voyage he spent his time making mats and sails and doing carpentry work with the sailors. In October, 1901, he was summoned to Arranmore with a message that the fever had broken out. He took out his boat and went across. He found that the victims were all Gallaghers who occupied several little houses to the southwest of the island. Dr. Smyth greatly hoped that the outbreak could be confined. In this he was thoroughly backed up by neighbours who studiously avoided contact with the stricken. Dr. Smyth determined to attend the patients himself. Secondly, he decided if it were possible to remove them to Glenties Hospital. Day by day he rowed himself across to the island taking the various things for the patients, for he was their doctor, nurse and only friend. Some of the patients refused to leave their homes, fearing they would be burnt down in their absence, but Joe Gallagher and his family agreed to go. The authorities were prepared to send an ambulance to Burtonport. But a boat was required to get the patients from the island across three miles of sea. No one would lend a boat for fear of infections. So he was obliged to buy one that was barely seaworthy. Dr. Brendan McCarthy, Medical Officer of Health for Co.Donegal, came to his aid and together they rowed the patients from the Chapel Strand across the Roads of Arranmore. The patients included Joe Gallagher, his wife, and three children, who were aged form two to seven. After a stormy trip in a leaking boat they landed safely in Burtonport. Then the old boat sank! But an ambulance brought the patients to Glenties hospital where they recovered. Before the outbreak of fever on Arranmore, accounts of the Glasgow Exhibition had excited the doctor's interest. And now that he was satisfied that he had done all he could to contain the fever and urged by his wife and friends, he decided to make the trip. On November 6 he embarked on one of the boats which made the trip to Glasgow from Burtonport weekly. He had not been long on board before he began to feel unwell, but he decided to continue the journey. He was able to stay at the exhibition only a few minutes-just long enough to buy a memento for his wife, and left immediately for home, where he became gravely ill. His colleague, Dr. Gardiner of Dungloe, diagnosed typhus. Dr. Smyth died on November 19th, 1901, aged 42, and is buried at the Parish Church of Dungloe beside six of his children who died before the age of five. Eight others survived him. Many stories have been told in West Donegal of the doctor's generous humanity, his skill as a doctor and surgeon, his love of the sea, and boats, his sympathy for the people. In the words of a local man, "he appreciated and admired the industry, toil and sacrifices of life, as it was known in the Rosses in those days". But, perhaps, it is on the fairy tale island of Arranmore that the story of his unselfish bravery is best remembered. On 27th November, 1902, a stained glass window to his memory was erected by Sir Wm. Whitla and unveiled by the Earl of Dudley, in the Library of the Ulster Medical Institute, Belfast. It is composed of two doctors. Some years ago it was removed to a place of safety an it is now intended that the window be placed in a new building being erected at the City Hospital. One of the photo illustrations is of a boy with a lovely donkey, a once familiar sight in the area, where they assisted with the carriage of peat. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.691 / Virus Database: 452 - Release Date: 26/05/2004

I'm looking for info Patrick Gallagher born around 1862-3. His father may have been Timothy Gallagher born about 1837 married to Hannah (Johannah / Anna) around 1862. Patrick was married to Hannah Dougherty around 1877. the family moved to Philadelphia settling in the Manayunk section of the city. This is from 1900 Phila census Timothy 62(1837) Hannah 58 (1841) married 37 yrs. children - Sally 34 (1866) Mary 31 (1869) Bridget 30 (1870) Hannah 28 (1872) Kate 26 (1876) Fannie 26 (1876) Sylvia 18 (1882) Rose 18 (1882) Marie 7 (1892) This is from the 1910 Phila census Timothy's 67, wife Anna 63 (had 11 children 10 living), daughters Mary 36, Bridget 33, Hanah 29, Katie 27, Fannie 25, Rose 25, Marie 17. and here are some records from the Philadelphia city directories with some of the males who resided on the block and with Patrick 1885 Daniel & Patrick Cresson & Seville 1890 Gallagher Patrick weaver h r 123 Seville, Myk 1895 Bernard, Patrick & Timothy 127 Seville James 128 Seville 1900 city directory Patrick, Charles & Timothy 109 Seville Bernard 115 Seville Patrick (ours) 127 Seville 1910 Timothy 137 seville Wm 143 Seville I would appreciate any help in finding where in Donegal patrick came from..... Thanks Bill

Nancy is definitely a pet name for Ann. Jeanette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "barry armstrong" <barrya@hardynet.com> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Nancy - Ann Can it be the same? > Yes. > I was wondering the same thing myself. I have had a few of these same names > crop up in my family too. I had thought that Ann might have been a nickname > for Nancy, but it seems to be the other way around. Any one with an answer > to this confusing name dilemma? > Meg > At 07:50 PM 5/25/2004 +0200, M Hoffman wrote: > >Hi there, > >Could someone who is listed in the census as Ann, be listed in a marriage > index as Nancy? > > > >Thank you > >Melanie > > > >For Walrus Clothing: http://www.walrus.co.za > > > > > >==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > ><>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > >Check out these Donegal Information Sites > >Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm > >O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ > >Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ > >Donegal Database- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html > >Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > > > >============================== > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > Check out these Donegal Information Sites > Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm > O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ > Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ > Donegal Database- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html > Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello fellow list members; I am researching my maiden name of McManemy sometimes spelled McMenamin. The names show up in Donegal around Ballymacarry. My GG Grandfather John McManemy was born in Ireland circa 1816/19. His father was born in Scotland, his mother Ireland. I don't know their date of birth or first names. John married in Ontario, Canada in 1837. He was on the Canadian Census starting in 1851 listed as a farmer and religion as Episcopalian. He named his first son Daniel which may mean he followed the naming tradition of the first son born named after his father's father. Any help out there? Thanks! Betty L. Clark bettylue@cox.net http://www.sharlynn.net/present2past.html

In a message dated 5/17/04 2:01:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, DONEGALEIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > am looking for Barney Cannon > Marilee Dalton McQuarrie > mdmcq@pocketinet.com You also might try posting to the Carrick website, http://www.carrickonline.com/ ~Tamy

In a message dated 5/26/2004 2:03:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jmdemontalk@clear.net.nz writes: > Nancy is definitely a pet name for Ann. > thats not the question is this Ann this Nancy? who knows yet i bet some of you are about to throw her into the tree with no proof. I have seeen it too many times. Oh!! this must be our nancy Buy you do know families live in clusters and they have naming patterns and so nancy or /and ann could be the familys female name. this is what bothers me about this i have 80000 names for chelsea revere & winthrop ma its only a start to doing all the citys but i see that easy assumptions dont work, almost never. yet too many geneaologists do it. which is why i would never take igi or world tree or anything like that as gospel. Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning

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Melanie I have found instances of bona fide error. For example --- Anna Jane for Ann Mary (1) Marriage register of 2nd Donagheady Presbyterian (married on 21 October 1869) -- David Thomas Nelson Mitchell to Anna Jane Browne (I personally read and copied the original registers) but (2) Transcribed from [film of] original documents held in the collection of the National Archives of Canada [Ottawa] ( per transcription from inGeneas inc. -- Canadian Genealogy and Searchable Databases --- Port of Quebec Arrivals, Ships' Passenger Lists, reel C-4525 --- David T. N. MITCHELL and wife Ann Mary Mitchell There can be no doubt that this is the same couple, as dates, ages, reasons for travelling and accompanying firstborn son all match 100%. Sincerely Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Hoffman" <melanie@global.co.za> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:50 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Nancy - Ann Can it be the same? > Hi there, > Could someone who is listed in the census as Ann, be listed in a marriage index as Nancy? > > Thank you > Melanie > > For Walrus Clothing: http://www.walrus.co.za > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > Check out these Donegal Information Sites > Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm > O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ > Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ > Donegal Database- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html > Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi there, Could someone who is listed in the census as Ann, be listed in a marriage index as Nancy? Thank you Melanie For Walrus Clothing: http://www.walrus.co.za

Yes. I was wondering the same thing myself. I have had a few of these same names crop up in my family too. I had thought that Ann might have been a nickname for Nancy, but it seems to be the other way around. Any one with an answer to this confusing name dilemma? Meg At 07:50 PM 5/25/2004 +0200, M Hoffman wrote: >Hi there, >Could someone who is listed in the census as Ann, be listed in a marriage index as Nancy? > >Thank you >Melanie > >For Walrus Clothing: http://www.walrus.co.za > > >==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== ><>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> >Check out these Donegal Information Sites >Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm >O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ >Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ >Donegal Database- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html >Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Sure can! My g-grandmother was baptized in 1856 as Anna Louisa, and was married as Nancy L. She also was listed in 3 censuses and 2 city directories as Anna L., and 2 censuses and 1 city directory as Nancy L. -Mike M Hoffman wrote: > Hi there, > Could someone who is listed in the census as Ann, be listed in a marriage index as Nancy? > > Thank you > Melanie

In a message dated 5/25/2004 4:11:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mitch@pixie.co.za writes: > There can be no doubt that this is the same couple, as dates, ages, reasons > for travelling and accompanying firstborn son all match 100%. > why i had a women mail the clerk of chelsea ma asking for the certs of James Denning born between 1878 and 1883. the clerk repied which one i have 7 of them. how many dennings have you met? nothing doesnt have to be something. this is why igi and world connect is not to be taken as for sure Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning