Hi, As someone wh is driving on the roads in Donegal every day I'd like to make a comment regarding the recent discussion about driving in Donegal. I have noticed more visitors in hire cars in the County in recent weeks and it's great to see visitors coming. Locals know the tourists' cars because they are generally new (2004) and carry registration plates from a Southern County such as Dublin or Wexford or Cork so that their number plates will read 04 WX 564 (ie. registered in 2004 in Wexford as opposed to the usual 96 DL (1996, Donegal, etc). I have observed that these visitors all drive at around 40 miles an hour while locals usually drive at 50-60 miles an hour and as the locals know the twisty roads they invariably get stuck behind the tourists' cars where there is no overtaking allowed for several miles. I can then see the tourists getting anxious as a long string of cars are behind them at close proximinty and there seems to be is no place to pull over . The locals know your dilemma and if you just indicate that you are going to stop and then stop at the side of the road the local cars will pass you. Regards, Patricia Sharkey http://www.dun-na-ngall.com

Chuck, I may also be interested in this also. I had a very close friend who was born Donnelly but her mother's name was Margaret McLaughlin. My firend married a McCullem and she moved to Scotland, where she lived when I first met her. Her mother originally came from Kinnego which is somewhere near Buncrana I believe. She told me a lot about areas but I still get mixed up. She was later divorced and when she divorced she changed her name via Deedpole to McLaughlin. I know that her parents had lived for a while in Paisley, where my friend grew up, but later after she was married her mother and father moved back to Fahan. She had lots of cousins by the name of McLaughlin. I know many of them by name and would be glad to try to pass them on to you if you contact me via email. She recently passed away at the age of 36 and I have been trying to figure out a few things. I never had any real addresseses for these people and I know that she was burried with her mother and father somewhere near her cousins in Kinnego and Buncrana. I am wondering if by chance you are familiar with my friend. since the locations, name etc are so co-incidental. Please email me privately. Thank you. Ray P.S. I can share what I know if others are interested, but I cannot go back more than who is there now and this person's parents and her child.

Have added the census for Tawlaght, 11 households. 1901 Census for Ireland - County Donegal Enum Dist-Barony-Parish-Townland Pettigo-Grousehall-Tirhugh-Templcarn-Tawlaght Bob Cdn.

Researching McLaughlin in area of Fahan, Buncrana. Chuck Loeher Grosse Pointe, MI

Updated 1901 Census data for these townlands, town in Donegal at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ 1901 Census for Ireland - County Donegal Enum Dist-Barony-Parish-Townland Pettigo -Grousehall-Tirhugh-Templcarn-Sessiaghkeelta Pettigo-Grousehall-Tirhugh-Templcarn-Gortinessy Pettigo-Grousehall-Tirhugh-Templcarn-Kimmid Bob

Phil at crowther@southwind.net writes: << There is a story that in 1790 about 90 families residing "on the banks of the Lough Erne" left for America from Londonderry aboard a ship named Eliza. However, the maps I am looking at indicate that Lough Erne and the immediately surrounding area are in County Fermanagh, not County Donegal. Am I missing something? >> Phil, I noticed that you didn't make any reference to these 90 families actually living in Co. Donegal. But, assuming that they did, they could have lived near Pettigo. About a mile or so from Pettigo, the border actually bends southward and Donegal touches Lough Erne. More likely, these families - if they lived in Co. Donegal - were westward, past Beleek, along the River (not Lough) Erne, by Assaroe Lake or in Ballyshannon......where the Erne runs right through the town on its way to the sea. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

The McCorkell line did not operate their own ships until much later - 1815? They were acting as agents for other ship owners/operators from 1778. From the Belfast Newsletter database the agents for the Eliza were Cunningham in Belfast and she is listed in a group of ships registered in Belfast. See my earlier post abouthe Belfast Newsletter. Being registered in Belfast did not preclude her picking up passengers at any other port and my understanding is they frequently picked up at several . For this reason they had agents in different parts of the country. Lloyds would have the definitive answer as to ownership, but I am not near a library who holds it. Rachel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Thompson" <lthompson@terrafirma.com.au> To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:48 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Lough Erne > Phil . Lough Erne borders Co. Donegal . The area of departure is as far down as Cavan for McCorkell and J&J Cooke ships to take people to America .I think Eliza was a McCorkell ship so go to > www.mccorkellline.com > Londonderry was the departure port . Laurie > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > ************************************************************************ > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > Check out these Donegal Information Sites > Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm > O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ > Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ > Donegal Database- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html > Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > Check out The Griffith's Valuation & other statistics at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

The newspaper Belfast Newsletter from 1737-1800 has been indexed by the University of S Louisiana http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/cgi-bin/belfst/QueryForm1.cgi The data retrieved by a search is sometimes difficult to understand but you can generally get the gist of it. I have Dysarts in Derry who were shipping at the same time. The info in the actual paper was a small ad giving the ship's name, captain and the agents or owners and occasionally a description of the ship. There are lots of entries for 'Eliza'- whether they are all the same ship you'll have to decide. The American voyages are there and an earlier account of being captured by the French. Same ship? You most probably won't find a passenger list on this side of the Atlantic. There was no requirement to keep one. You might find running a search of the archive on the passenger names brings up something in addition. In the UK the actual papers are available in the British Library newspaper library in London and an extensive set in the Linenhall Library in Belfast and the Central Library Belfast. Rachel

Phil . Lough Erne borders Co. Donegal . The area of departure is as far down as Cavan for McCorkell and J&J Cooke ships to take people to America .I think Eliza was a McCorkell ship so go to www.mccorkellline.com Londonderry was the departure port . Laurie

John I have investigated further. One of the families said they were from Templecrone Parish. I wonder if they didn't mean Templecarn Parish? It looks like Pettigo might be part of Templecarn Parish but that Belleek would be part of Killbarron Parish. Looks like that might have been a hard place to make a living. I wonder if the Church records would reflect the departure of 90 families in 1790. That seems like a lot of people. And this was long before the famine, so mass departures might have been noticed more. Thanks, Phil p.s. Another website said the name of the ship they took from Londonderry in 1790 was "Eliza Jane", rather than the Eliza. The person who wrote the poem about the voyage said only "Eliza". But perhaps he hard a hard time getting anything to rhyme with "Jane". Adam4Eves@aol.com wrote: >Lough Erne touches Donegal briefly at Belleek and near Pettigo. I would think >that the Pettigo area is most likely. >Regards, >JC > >John Cunningham, >Commons, >Belleek, >Co., Fermanagh, >N. Ireland BT93 3ED >Erneheritagetours.com >Sapere Aude > > >==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== >All email to listowner should be sent to >postalq@grnco.net > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Lough Erne touches Donegal briefly at Belleek and near Pettigo. I would think that the Pettigo area is most likely. Regards, JC John Cunningham, Commons, Belleek, Co., Fermanagh, N. Ireland BT93 3ED Erneheritagetours.com Sapere Aude

Foot regiments are the infantry/foot soldiers as opposed to mounted cavalry regiments. The info is held in the National Archives in London. There website is www.nationalarchives.gov.uk My search of the catalogue which is on line brought up virtually the same info as you have , but interestingly 4 other Crossans born in Lifford or Strabane (these two towns are half a mile apart.) These are the details, WO 97/570/20 JAMES CROSSON Born LIFFORD, Donegal Served in 41st Foot Regiment Discharged aged 48 1825-1843 > __________________ WO 97/1134/96 > 97/773/94 CUNNINGHAM CROSSIN alias CUNNINGHAM CROSSON Born LIFFORD, Donegal Served in 64th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 27 1842-1851 _____________________________________________ EDWARD CROSSAN Born STRABANE, Tyrone Served in 1st Foot Regiment; 9th Royal Veteran Battalion Discharged aged 49 1798-1814 ________________________________________________ 97/1203/77 JAMES CROSSON alias JAMES CROSSEN Born LIFFORD, Donegal Served in 79th Foot Regiment; Recruiting Service; 8th Royal Veteran Battalion Discharged aged 41 1804-1835 1842- 97/892/50 JAMES CROSSON alias JAMES CROSSAN Born LIFFORD, Donegal Served in 79th Foot Regiment; Manx Fencibles Discharged aged 40 1796-1819 The WO97 reference no quoted relates to the discharge papers and often you get the life story with all the service details and conduct and woundings etc. Sometimes it gives parental details, sometimes it is just a very bare bones and has little info - depends on what survived. You would need to consult the records in person or have someone do it. The Veteran battalions were for officers and men who had been wounded or were unfit for active duty - one of the ones I researched guarded home forts and another escorted prisoners who were being transported. Hope this helps, I'd be interested to know if they turn out to be the same family. Rachel Message ----- From: "Roy and Margaret" <roymar@strato.net> > To: <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:52 PM > Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] CROSSAN > > > > I have a Cunningham Crossin, Crossan, Crosson, Born LIFFORD , Donegal > Served in 64th Foot Regiment. Discharged age 27 > > 1842 - 1851. Royal Chelsea and Kilmainham Hospitals. His age corresponds > with a Cunningham Crossan who is the brother of my G G Grandfather. What > would a foot soldier be and where would I find any info on this. > > Margaret Norman. > > > > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > > Donegaleire listowner is Carol Queen. > > Visit my homepages at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/ > > QUEENSCASTLE BRANCHES AND BOUGHS > > Check out The Griffith's Valuation & other statistics at > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

Searching for Passengers Lists in Delaware, USA means searching for LDS church films covering Emigration and Immigration in Delaware. The final URL is way too long to copy/paste here, this is where you begin : http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Select Place Search > Enter Delaware > select top name, 'Delaware' > scroll to Emigration & Immigration. There you will find one selection of interest : Ship passenger lists, Pennsylvania and Delaware, 1641-1825 Boyer, Carl, 1937. Click on that title, and then again on the View Film Notes tab. This was recorded on 4 microfiche in 1989, order this one : #6048670 There are no guarantees the Eliza's passengers will be shown, but its one I'd order if I was looking for it. This would cost 15 cents for each fiche plus 30 cents for mailing making a total of 90 cents for the gamble. Use the same method to find filmed Passenger lists for any Port, just enter the Port state or province when you begin your search, then go to Emigration & Immigration to see what was filmed. Meg Greenwood / Oklahoma USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...<snip> "According to an old poem written by one of the passengers, the ship was the "grand brig Eliza", the Captain was named Knight, they sailed from Londonderry "on the fourth of June, in the afternoon" bound for New York, and arrived in America on Sep 9. Although the poet didn't give the year, others have said 1790 and have also said that the ship ended up going to New Castle, DE, instead of New York.....<snip> "

I also should have asked if anyone can verify that a ship named Eliza left Londonderry around 1790 bound for New York? According to an old poem written by one of the passengers, the ship was the "grand brig Eliza", the Captain was named Knight, they sailed from Londonderry "on the fourth of June, in the afternoon" bound for New York, and arrived in America on Sep 9. Although the poet didn't give the year, others have said 1790 and have also said that the ship ended up going to New Castle, DE, instead of New York. The ship was probably a good-sized ship because 90 families are said to have made the trip. I'm not sure if anyone has ever found a listing for this ship or a passenger manifest. Thanks, Phil

I have a Cunningham Crossin, Crossan, Crosson, Born LIFFORD , Donegal Served in 64th Foot Regiment. Discharged age 27 1842 - 1851. Royal Chelsea and Kilmainham Hospitals. His age corresponds with a Cunningham Crossan who is the brother of my G G Grandfather. What would a foot soldier be and where would I find any info on this. Margaret Norman.

There is a story that in 1790 about 90 families residing "on the banks of the Lough Erne" left for America from Londonderry aboard a ship named Eliza. However, the maps I am looking at indicate that Lough Erne and the immediately surrounding area are in County Fermanagh, not County Donegal. Am I missing something? Thanks, Phil

Good morning, Is anyone doing research on Wm or this MOORE Family? He came into NYC on 14 May 1912 from Movile, Co. Donegal aboard the "California" & settled in Morton, Delaware Co., PA. Wm was b. 15 Sep 1891 in Movile Co. Donegal. Please e-mail me! :) Happy hunting, Helen

Did a check of British Vital Records but none before: Births 1859 and Marriages 1847 NONE from Donegal. Bob Cdn. ================================================= <SNIP> From: Joan La Grone [mailto:met2000@frii.com] Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Re: DONEGALEIRE-D Digest V04 #205 Hello, I am still trying to locate information on a James Edmonstone in Raphoe parish southeast of Letterkenny from 1697 to 1715. Also, a Jane Thompson, his wife. Can anyone tell me where to go to search? Joan

Henry, thank you for posting this. Is it for 2004? Was it in a newspaper? Information like this is very helpful for people, Like Me! who have yet to visit Ireland. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: McFadden [mailto:McFadden@ntlworld.com] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:45 AM To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Dunfanaghy how tidy? The results for this year's 'Tidy Town Report' are in and here is the extract for Dunfanaghy . . . " . . Overall Developmental Approach: Dunfanaghy is a popular coastal town with wonderful natural amenities and beautiful scenery. It is quite clear that there is a lot of building work on going and this brings with it its own problems of site being worked on and unfinished gardens and residential areas, overall though the hard work of the committee there is a good balance on the work being done and the protection of the natural environs which is a credit to them. The Built Environment: Visually the main street is nice with buildings such as Arnold's Hotel, AIB Bank, Haiti Sona and McAuliffes Craft Shop adding to the overall look of the town. There are a couple of prime properties, which are run down and now for sale, when these are sold and developed it will look better. The many developments of holiday homes and private houses on the main approach roads are being built to a high standard and when stonewalls and paving are finished and in place these add to the standard. The stonewalls also at the waterfront and throughout the town on approach roads is a lovely feature. The two schools, Garda Station, Presbyterian Church and Catholic Church are kept in pristine condition. The Dunfanaghy Workhouse with stone building is a lovely building and a nice addition. It will be interesting to see what development plans there are out for the derelict out house behind it. The Market Square looks well to the Main Street Front but could do with some work to the back of these buildings and the Public Toilet area. Landscaping: there is great attention overall to landscaping and the main street is colourful and attractive with hanging baskets and Palm tree pot plants. Most of the private houses on roads such as Portnablagh and the Creeslough Road had beautifully maintained, mature gardens that added to the overall high standard of landscaping. Wildlife and Natural Amenities: Dunfanaghy is a major centre for brown trout and the only place in Ireland where the corncrake can be held in its natural habitat. The landscaped waterfront area would now be an ideal location to put a plaque or notice board detailing the Wildlife and Natural Amenities of the local area and it would be an addition to the town to the residents and visitors alike. Litter Control: The main street in Dunfanaghy was litter free. There were some small litter at the Public Toilet area, but overall the standard was good throughout the environs. The Bottle Bank area was clean and maintained well. It is quite apparent that a dedicated drive to do this is going on in the town and surrounding areas. Tidiness Due to ongoing building work and properties being sold and/or developed there is going to be a certain amount of untidiness but having looked at some of the finished developments they appear to be completed well. It is essential that the Committee continues to ensure and monitor that developers leave the sites and building areas in the best possible condition including landscaping before they move on. Some retailers using the main street as a seated area and for displaying merchandise does take away from the clean and tidy look of the main street. The sign for W.J. Crossan could do replacing on the main street. There are a couple of derelict properties spotted here and there throughout the area and it would be good to pursue as to ownership and development purposes in the long term. Residential Areas: There appears to be quite a lot of secondary residences (Summer/Holiday Homes) in Dunfanaghy but for the most part the standard of housing and finish is very good with these properties. The permanent residences were also finished and maintained to a very high standard, which is a great credit to the committee to achieve this standard and to the home owners that quite obviously have a great sense of pride in their properties and environ. Roads, Street and back Areas: The road surfaces, footpaths, built stone walls and new lightning have all added to the standard of the town. General Impression: There is a very good standard within Dunfanaghy and the committee are to be congratulated for the work achieved thus far, for their commitment and efforts. It might be an idea now to put together a 3-5 year plan. Second Round Adjudication: There an abundance of new houses and new stone walling throughout. Do ensure that building materials are removed once work is complete. The many churches in the town and their grounds are well maintained! The town was very busy and generally looked fresh, apart from the Carrig Rua Hotel, which will hopefully be restored to its former glory once it has been sold. Litter control was a problem on the day with quite a few outbreaks evident on the main street of the town, particularly in the vicinity of the Market Square. The recycling area showed evidence of dumping, so perhaps a more frequent pick-up is required? A boarded house opposite the Church of Ireland should be restored to its former glory in an appropriate manner, as it is quite charming. . " Slan Henry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Hello, I am still trying to locate information on a James Edmonstone in Raphoe parish southeast of Letterkenny from 1697 to 1715. Also, a Jane Thompson, his wife. Can anyone tell me where to go to search? Joan DONEGALEIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > DONEGALEIRE-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 205 > > Today's Topics: > #1 RE: [DONEGALEIRE] Rocktown [Barbara Bradley <BarbaraBradley@we] > #2 Donegal Ancestry in Remelton ["Brian M Carr" <mcilcar@comcast.ne] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from DONEGALEIRE-D, send a message to > > DONEGALEIRE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > If you aren't unsubscribed, try the same method using the following address > > DONEGALEIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: [DONEGALEIRE] Rocktown > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:04:46 -0400 > From: Barbara Bradley <BarbaraBradley@westat.com> > To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com > > Lindel, > > Thanks so much for the information. I'm 'fairly' sure this is my Bridget as > she's listed again under her married name Bridget Bradley, along with her > children Mary and Daniel in 1916. The manifest lists her father as Daniel > Gallagher of Rocktown, Donegal. > > Barb Bradley > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONEGALEIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:DONEGALEIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lindel > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 6:54 PM > To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DONEGALEIRE] Rocktown > > Hi Barb! Although Rocktown doesn't show on my maps, the passenger list > has Falcarragh noted as well - that would indicate it was not far from > there. Bernard - info@sportproject.u-net.com - is researching Gallaghers > in Rocktown and Craigtown in Tullaghgobegley, so it may be worthwhile > emailing him to see if you are after the same family. > It looks like Bridget was going to join her sister Rose and I found a > Rose Gallagher, 24, on the Furnessia in 1908, father Daniel, she being > from Craigtown, Falcarragh. Rose was travelling with Maggie McClafferty, > 30, and they were both going to join their cousin Grace Gallagher at 311 > 42nd St, West Philadelphia. > Hope that helps! > Lindel > > Barbara Bradley wrote: > > >My first post so I hope I'm doing this correctly. > > > >My ancestor Bridget Gallagher came to the US at age 18 in 1909. On the > >ship's manifest she lists her hometown as Rocktown, Donegal. I can't seem > >to find this town/village on any map. Does anyone have any idea where > >Rocktown is located in Donegal? > > > >Thanks in advance. > > > >Barb Bradley > > > > > >==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > >All email to listowner should be sent to > >postalq@grnco.net > > > >============================== > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DONEGALEIRE Mailing List ==== > ************************************************************************ > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> > Check out these Donegal Information Sites > Dick O'Donnell's- http://www.mindspring.com/~dickod/donegal/index.htm > O Donnell Abu/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~vod/ > Donegal Families/ http://homepage.tinet.ie/~donfam/ > Donegal Database- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegaleire/Doncontent.html > Donegal Information/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/ > Check out The Griffith's Valuation & other statistics at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Donegal Ancestry in Remelton > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:54:47 -0400 > From: "Brian M Carr" <mcilcar@comcast.net> > To: DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com > > Have many of you used the services of Donegal Ancestry in the past? > > I would like to hear from any of you with your impressions and a grade on > the their product . > > Slainte, > > Brian Carr > > Researching: > Co. Donegal : DORAN (Alt), BROWNE & McILCAR/CARR (Gortnagrace) to > Philadelphia > Co. Mayo : CLARKE & HANAHOE (Corroy) to Reading, PA > Co. Galway : BRADY & JENNINGS to Lynn, MA > Co. Limerick : BROWN (city:St. John's), FREWEN (Castleconnell) to > Philadelphia, New York City > Co. Kerry : BREEN (Glencar) to Reading, PA > Co. Cork : HICKEY to Philadelphia