Hi, Gen but information only on the Digitization Project at the LDS/FHC Church If not interest hit the delete key. I was browsing the web and came across this explanation of how the digitization project is handled in the deep dark vaults of Granite Mountain Vaults in the Salt Lake area. The actual Record Search site (pilot project ) is at: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html?datestamp=1183776820771#p=0 New or updated items have a red start adjacent to their name - hyperlink I am not a member of the LDS church just a big time user of their FHCs and CD they sell. Have a nice day Bob Cdn ------------------------------------------ Unlocking the Vault: Conversion to Digital Records is Progressing By Brittany Karford, Church Magazines Members may not have to wonder what lies behind the 14-ton vault door at the Church's Granite Mountain Records Vault (GMRV) facility for much longer. In as little as 10 years, much of its genealogical collection may be at their fingertips. The billions of names preserved on microfilmed records at the vault are being converted to digital images that can eventually be viewed online at FamilySearch.org and ultimately searched in and linked to an online index. The process of digitizing the microfilm is now faster than ever through a "bleeding edge" technology system called FamilySearch^(TM) Scanning. "I call it unlocking the vault," says Heath Nielson, the program's lead software engineer. "I cannot wait for the day when accessibility to these records becomes available to all." When that day comes, the records will be available to everyone, both Latter-day Saints and the public---"God's children everywhere"---according to the project team. And for those researching family history under either title, it will mean no more microfilm, and no more eyes strained from looking at film under dim light. The vision, says Brent Thompson, director of records preservation, is that in the future members in Lima, Peru, who now wait up to six or eight weeks for microfilm, will be able to go to a family history center or anywhere with Internet access and look at records with the click of a button. It is a giant first step toward putting most of the family history collection of the GMRV online. Online images and indexes of birth, marriage, and death records from all over the world may altogether change how family history work is done. Currently, only a minority of members pursue family history work, but the accessibility enabled through FamilySearch Scanning will make it simple for anyone with Internet access to get involved. Brother Thompson believes they will, though at first he didn't dream digitizing the collection would be possible. "I couldn't imagine it possible in my lifetime," he says. "I couldn't imagine it possible in /my children's/ lifetime." At the rate they were going prior to the FamilySearch Scanning technology, it was estimated that it would take 120 years to convert applicable films to digital. That same projection is now less than 30 years, perhaps sooner with planned expansions of additional scanners. The team that couldn't fathom living to see the end result will now be the team that will someday complete the digitizing process. So how does it work? One vault worker loads rolls of film into a pod of scanners and presses "Go". The scanner then takes one comprehensive video picture and transfers that continuous file to another computer, where an application analyzes the contrast of the ribbon for quality and splits each frame into individual JPEGs (a digital file of an image). To finish, a good pair of eyes reviews the job and processes the newly created JPEGs. The digital images are then readied for use by the Church's online indexing program, where volunteers over time will help extract the birth, marriage, and death information from the images to create free searchable indexes online (like the 1880 U.S., 1880 Canada, and 1881 British Censuses currently found at FamilySearch.org). This is a great improvement over the process used just a little more than a year ago, where one person had to be present throughout the entire process, manually scrutinizing each frame. Through three to four feet of film, one technician would adjust the light and contrast with the film density changes, watching every image come across the screen and cutting it out. "We thought, 'How can we apply computer technology to save these poor people's eyes?' " explains Derek Dobson, product manager. "And how can we more quickly convert these microfilms to digital images so people can access them more readily on the Internet?" Enter Heath Nielson and a team of engineers. Not only does the computer system they developed speed the process up, but by taking the frames on a continuous file, it retains the contextual information of each slide as a piece of a whole. "In the computer, it's not piecemeal. You can look at a single frame next to its neighbors, and it tells you something about it," Brother Nielson says. Also, with the manual process there was no way of knowing if they had missed an image, something that is not a factor with the continuous file. Though the technology is not entirely novel, their ability to act and the Church's ability to execute and implement the technology for its intended purposes makes them pioneers in the field. Yet setting the program into motion has not been without its glitches. "It's something I still feel fervently about," Brother Nielson says. "I knew that if this was something we needed to do, there would be a way provided." And there was. In the hard and frustrating times, he said they would find just what mechanism they needed and receive help from specific individuals just when they needed it---one step at a time. On just four scanners, they have tripled output---yet they've still only completed four percent of the targeted films at the vault, and more films are coming in. This year alone, they expect to acquire an additional 28,000, says Wayne Crosby, general manager of GMVR. They have a lot of work to do. The good news is they are two to three years away from completing the transition from microfilm cameras to digital cameras. When this transition is complete, only the existing microfilm collection will need to be converted to digital. Film and microfiche will continue to be stored in the vault, even after their digital conversion. "The polyester film lasts 300 to 500 years and will continue to be used for long-term preservation," Brother Crosby explains, noting that the digitizing of the records is to make them more accessible to family history researchers, not to make preservation easier. And so it's back into the long, chilly corridors deep within Granite Mountain for not only the polyester films, but the new digital records as well. There they will reside in one of six 190-foot long rooms. About 1 million rolls of film are held in each vault, maintained at a constant 55 degrees and 30 percent humidity, ideal for preservation. From the doorway, the row after row of monstrous file cabinets creates the impression of having fallen into /Alice and Wonderland/ and stepped into a strange office where filing cabinets stretch from floor to ceiling. But the vault where the digital images are stored is for the most part empty (One DVD can hold up to 4 digitized microfilms). A few short cabinets hold what's been converted so far, and the expansiveness of the room whispers of a future when it will be filled. When that day comes, most members will be able to access the digital images of the films anywhere they have Internet access---from their homes or local Family History Center---through the Church's genealogical Web site, http://www.familysearch.org; and the staff at GMVR won't be bundling in their coats as often to retrieve fiche and film. "Think how easy that will be," says Paul Nauta, public relations manager for the Family and Church History Department. "In the future individuals anywhere in the world through the Internet will be able to search the majority of the GMRV's film collection and the billions of names currently hidden in them---all from the convenience of their homes or family history center." "Won't it be nice if in between naps and playing with my children, I can jump on the Internet and do family history research," says Brother Nielson. "This technology is the answer to our hopes, our dreams, and our prayers," Brother Thompson adds. He smiles, looking out one of the main office windows---or rather, a giant half-dome portal that opens the granite slab to the north-facing alpine slope across the canyon. About to step out of the paper-and-film world that has shaped his profession, he reflects on the mountainside. "What a view," he says, "and what a great resource this is for the Church. What an inspiration it was to build this facility in a solid wall of granite."

Interesting article at Dick Eastman's Newsletter. It includes a link to the Council of Irish Genealogical Organisations (CIGO) site regarding the 1926 census issue and another to their online petition to open the 1926 Irish Census. http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2008/06/petitioning-to.html -- Mike Sweeney

Donegal Researchers, 27 June 2008 1. To obtain a copy of the Donegal Researchers database go to the URL http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hiflyte/WhatsNew/New.html or http://hiflyte.22web.net/WhatsNew/New.html Both websites have the same data. "Click Here to Download the Donegal Researchers List" (RED BOX) A box will open select "Save to Disk" button and hit OK Also read the other paragraphs on the page regarding viewing the DB. The updated version of this List will be issued bi-week, usually Friday. An email to the Donegaleire List will keep you informed. ============================ There is a new Page outlining how to submitted your data., which I hope it is easier to follow. It is very easy to get at just click on the link below the Red Box "Click here to Open Instruction page" =========================================== Bob Cdn. ==================================

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Interesting - Maybe I spend to much time in the PC world and not enough in the real world of books (at present). I always have and still prefer a real book as opposed to one produced or viewed via a PC. This method as the article states allows one to obtain books that are out of print. So a quick check via Google has informed me that we have Books On Demand located at the University of Alberta Bookstore. Now have another place to check out but will probably have to wait till the Fall comes along - summer is far to short in this part of the world to be sitting in bookshops or FHC. http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6346866.html Back to cutting the grass................................. Thanks for info. Bob Cdn =============================== Liam Martin wrote:<SNIP>...Blackwell bookshop announced on 20 June 2008 that it is to install an "Espresso Book Machine" that will allow customers to print out fully-bound books in just seven minutes. The self-service machine, which will eventually be installed in 50 stores across the UK, offers a choice of around one million titles. ... ================================

Blackwell bookshop announced on 20 June 2008 that it is to install an "Espresso Book Machine" that will allow customers to print out fully-bound books in just seven minutes. The self-service machine, which will eventually be installed in 50 stores across the UK, offers a choice of around one million titles. A smaller and more sophisticated version of the machine prints books in just three minutes. The older version has already been installed worldwide in 11 sites and Blackwell hopes to eventually have the faster machine most of its stores. High street bookshops can offer a range of books that will compete for the first time with online stores such as Amazon - will we be able to obtain our genealogy books (even obscure ones) in local shops? Will they be less expensive? See the URL http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/millions-of-books-to-choose-from-ndash-yours-will-take-only-minutes-to-print-851587.html Liam "A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat"

----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Mitchell To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Cc: laurie Thompson ; Seamus Doherty, Derry Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: To get the 2nd Session for Lindel Buckle's interview on Donegal's Highland Radio Dear Listers For those who missed Lindel's interview earlier today (like me!), don't fret - the programme is being re-broadcast tonight. I have been in touch with Ciara Mackey, the producer of the Shaun Doherty Show at Highland Radio, who has kindly explained as follows: a.. The show went out earlier today at 10:00 local Irish time - it's a 3 hour programme. The interview with Lindel was broadcast at about 12:30. In other words, about 2½ hours into a 3 hour programme. b.. Ciara says it's actually about two hours into the show - but that's before the Radio Station adds in all the advertisements and commercial breaks. c.. Ireland are now on summer time, i.e. GMT + 1. d.. The re-broadcast will go out at 01:00 Ireland time, which is Midnight GMT. e.. So, if we allow 2½ hours, that means Lindel's interview should be on at about 02:30 GMT For my part, I'm going to tune in at 02:00 GMT and get in the mood ..!! (All thanks to Boyd Gray for alerting us to this special treat, and to Lindel for doing the interview - and of course to Highland Radio) The website link is Highland Radio's streaming Live Stream: http://www.highlandradio.com/streaming.php It works like a dream Enjoy! Sincere greetings Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa at GMT + 2 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Lindel on Highland Radio > Hi Folks, > > As many of you will know, Lindel is now in Donegal meeting long lost cousins > and friends, tramping graveyards and vacuuming up any sources she does not > already have. > > She is also going to be on the Highland Radio again, this time the Sean > Doherty Show at 12 midday GMT, tomorrow, Monday, 23rd June. Lots of people > here in Donegal are now becoming aware of the valuable work she does for the > county with her amazing website. For the benefit of newbies: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/ > > This is the link to Highland Radio's streaming Live Stream: > http://www.highlandradio.com/streaming.php > > I think it will be repeated later in the evening but I am not sure when. I > can probably find out if anyone needs to know. Last time she was on, lots > of people wanted to record it and there was much talk of using the Audacity > programme (check the archives). I never mastered the software myself, but > there seem to be lots of other free software packages you can use: > http://radio.about.com/od/recordstreamingaudio/Audio_Recording_Software_for_ > Online_Radio_Stations_and_Audio_Sources.htm > > Happy listening - and it will be all the better for me not being there this > time to interrupt her! > > Boyd Gray > > http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm > >

Thanks Dave, I messed up with the time - forgetting we are on BST now rather than GMT. All very confusing but I think you have made it clear to all. Boyd Gray http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell Sent: 23 June 2008 15:02 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: Seamus Doherty, Derry Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] To get the 2nd Session for Lindel Buckle's interviewon Donegal's Highland Radio Dear Listers For those who missed Lindel's interview earlier today (like me!), don't fret - the programme is being re-broadcast tonight. SNIP

Dear Listers For those who missed Lindel's interview earlier today (like me!), don't fret - the programme is being re-broadcast tonight. I have been in touch with Ciara Mackey, the producer of the Shaun Doherty Show at Highland Radio, who has kindly explained as follows: a.. The show went out earlier today at 10:00 local Irish time - it's a 3 hour programme. The interview with Lindel was broadcast at about 12:30. In other words, about 2½ hours into a 3 hour programme. b.. Ciara says it's actually about two hours into the show - but that's before the Radio Station adds in all the advertisements and commercial breaks. c.. Ireland are now on summer time, i.e. GMT + 1. d.. The re-broadcast will go out at 01:00 Ireland time, which is Midnight GMT. e.. So, if we allow 2½ hours, that means Lindel's interview should be on at about 02:30 GMT For my part, I'm going to tune in at 02:00 GMT and get in the mood ..!! (All thanks to Boyd Gray for alerting us to this special treat, and to Lindel for doing the interview - and of course to Highland Radio) The website link is Highland Radio's streaming Live Stream: http://www.highlandradio.com/streaming.php It works like a dream Enjoy! Sincere greetings Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa at GMT + 2 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Lindel on Highland Radio > Hi Folks, > > As many of you will know, Lindel is now in Donegal meeting long lost cousins > and friends, tramping graveyards and vacuuming up any sources she does not > already have. > > She is also going to be on the Highland Radio again, this time the Sean > Doherty Show at 12 midday GMT, tomorrow, Monday, 23rd June. Lots of people > here in Donegal are now becoming aware of the valuable work she does for the > county with her amazing website. For the benefit of newbies: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/ > > This is the link to Highland Radio's streaming Live Stream: > http://www.highlandradio.com/streaming.php > > I think it will be repeated later in the evening but I am not sure when. I > can probably find out if anyone needs to know. Last time she was on, lots > of people wanted to record it and there was much talk of using the Audacity > programme (check the archives). I never mastered the software myself, but > there seem to be lots of other free software packages you can use: > http://radio.about.com/od/recordstreamingaudio/Audio_Recording_Software_for_ > Online_Radio_Stations_and_Audio_Sources.htm > > Happy listening - and it will be all the better for me not being there this > time to interrupt her! > > Boyd Gray > > http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm > >

In a message dated 6/23/2008 11:23:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: d.. The re-broadcast will go out at 01:00 Ireland time, which is Midnight GMT. e.. So, if we allow 2½ hours, that means Lindel's interview should be on at about 02:30 GMT For my part, I'm going to tune in at 02:00 GMT and get in the mood ..!! So if the USA is 5 hours behind then we should be listening about 7:00 AM? Janice **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Hi, A couple of websites with stories about Lindel _http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/DN/free/351434465950359.php_ (http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/DN/free/351434465950359.php) _http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/DN/dnhomepage.php/_ (http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/DN/dnhomepage.php/) These sites came from [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) He doesn't do Genealogy, but knows Placenames in Ireland. Joan **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Boyd . Can Australia listen also . Laurie

Hi Folks, It's obviously all action week in Donegal because, second only to Lindel's visit, another fascinating international event is taking place. It is the XVII Ulster American Heritage Symposium, based this year in the Ulster American Folk Park, just across the border in County Tyrone, and featuring visits to Ramelton and Rathmullan in Donegal. It has all the top genealogists and Ulster American historians and some of the topics seem fascinating. The web address with all the details is here: http://www.qub.ac.uk/cms/events/UAHS_2008.htm If you are already in Ireland, you will not want to miss this. (Especially Eva, from Cali, who IS in Ireland but whose email is resisiting all my blandishments - however, I know she gets the Lists. This is from the top page (just in case you're wondering should you fire up IE): "'Changing perspectives, 1607-2007' Centre for Migration Studies at the Ulster American Folk Park, Omagh, Northern Ireland 25-28 June, 2008 The Centre for Migration Studies at the Ulster American Folk Park, Omagh, is pleased to host the Seventeenth Ulster-American Heritage Symposium, 25-28 June, 2008, in partnership with the University of Ulster, Queen's University Belfast, the National Museums, the Library Service of Northern Ireland and the Ulster Historical Foundation. Since 1976 the Ulster-American Heritage Symposium has met every two years, alternating between co-sponsoring universities and museums in Ulster and North America. Its purpose is to encourage scholarly study and public awareness of the historical connections between Ulster and North America including what is commonly called the Scotch-Irish or Ulster-Scots heritage. The Symposium has as its general theme the process of transatlantic emigration and settlement, and links between England, Scotland, Ireland and North America. Its approach is multi-disciplinary, encouraging dialogue between those working in different fields including history, language, literature, geography, archaeology, anthropology, religion, folklife and music. The particular theme of the meeting in 2008 will be 'Changing Perspectives, 1607-2007' with the aim of presenting and exploring recent research that challenges habitual ways of thinking about the historical relationship between Ulster and North America over the last four hundred years. The keynote speaker will be Professor David Cannadine, Director of the Institute of Historical Research in the University of London and author of Mellon: An American Life (2006). As at the last Symposium in Knoxville, Tennessee in 2006, there will be an excursion on offer on Wednesday 25 June. Our plan is to visit Ramelton and Rathmullan in County Donegal." Boyd Gray http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm

Hi Boyd, Just to add The Shaun Doherty Show runs from just after the 10AM news until 1PM GMT(weekdays), so Lindel's slot on Monday 23rd will be approximately two thirds of the way into the programme. To the best of my knowledge the Monday show will be repeated from 1AM, Tuesday 24th June (GMT). However, the repeat is shorter as news breaks and advertisements are omitted. Also I think in some instances parts of the show may be cut making it very hard to gauge exactly what time Lindel will be on. Bernie

Hi Folks, As many of you will know, Lindel is now in Donegal meeting long lost cousins and friends, tramping graveyards and vacuuming up any sources she does not already have. She is also going to be on the Highland Radio again, this time the Sean Doherty Show at 12 midday GMT, tomorrow, Monday, 23rd June. Lots of people here in Donegal are now becoming aware of the valuable work she does for the county with her amazing website. For the benefit of newbies: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/ This is the link to Highland Radio's streaming Live Stream: http://www.highlandradio.com/streaming.php I think it will be repeated later in the evening but I am not sure when. I can probably find out if anyone needs to know. Last time she was on, lots of people wanted to record it and there was much talk of using the Audacity programme (check the archives). I never mastered the software myself, but there seem to be lots of other free software packages you can use: http://radio.about.com/od/recordstreamingaudio/Audio_Recording_Software_for_ Online_Radio_Stations_and_Audio_Sources.htm Happy listening - and it will be all the better for me not being there this time to interrupt her! Boyd Gray http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm

Hi Boyd, Thank you for letting us know about Lindel's interview. I really enjoyed her last visit on Highland Radio. Will you also be on with some more helpful information? Beannachtai, Margaret (Máiread)

I found this interesting articleon this web site about researching your ancestors in Ireland. For those of you that are new at this, I would advise you to read it as it is very informative. Go to: _http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/frame_1024.cfm_ (http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/frame_1024.cfm) and click on "Tracing your ancestors" in the top green area. Good luck Janice Friel **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Of interest to some, If not hit the delete button New Brunswick, Canada Census data http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cannb/NB_Census.htm US links of interest: http://www.genmarket.com/United_States/By_State/Connecticut/Military_Records/ Bob Cdn ===============================

Hi , I also have a Rebecca Morrow of Roshin, Killybegs Donegal who married a Robert Greenlaw in 1818. I would love to know who her father was . Regards Cheri Greenlaw