Hi Mike, I just saw this e-mail...The parents section only shows "unknown Felker" for father and "Magdelena" for mother on Anton's death certificate. I also have a copy his marriage certificate to my great-grandmother from Ruma, and it lists his mother Magdelena Felker, no father is listed. Cheers! Eric -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 1/15/18, Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: [DVHH] Ruma To: [email protected] Date: Monday, January 15, 2018, 9:17 PM Hello Anne, I have an ever-growing tree of ancestors from Ruma.  The two blue books, "Rumaer Dokumentation, I & II", have been very helpful.  On p. 263 of vol. II the origin of Thomas DREER is given as Dossenheim-Schriesheim, Mittelneckar (this would have been Rheinpfalz at the time, I believe).  On his way to Ruma he stopped in Tolna, Hungary as did many of the early settlers of Ruma who came in the 1740's.  It is my belief that all the DREHERs, DREERs, etc. descend from Thomas based on the writings in these two books.  Contrary to your statement, there is quite a good deal of information on many of the original immigrants, their year of arrival and general (often specific) place of origin.  I would recommend having a look - you may be surprised! Nearly all of the names you list from Toronto are among my ancestors.  My grandmother was a NAGEL and she had great-grandmothers REINPRECHT, MINNICH and BONIGUT. In regard to your comment regarding house names in Ruma, not all families had one.  The NAGELs were one of the biggest families, but there were no house names used. Hello Eric, May seem obvious, but if your great-grandfather Anton FELKER immigrated to Chicago in 1921, have you looked for a death certificate to see if parents are listed?  There ought to be one by that time in that area. Best regards, Mike > > ________________________________ > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> > on behalf of anna dreer via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > [email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ruma Connection > > Hello Mike, > There were quite a few Dreers in Ruma. Unfortunately all of the the > ?older? generation is long dead, (those who were adults when they fled). > Do you have the names of other Ruma relatives? > According to  my husband?s family their name was always spelled without > an  h. > There were even other Dreer families that my husband was not related to. > If you go on Christoph Stoepel?s  ?GEOGEN? page you will find most Dreers > in  Bavaria. It gives the percentage of Dreers from all regions  of Germany. > The first settlers came 1749 from W?rttemberg, the Palatine and > Oberfranken.  Their dialect was definitely Bavarian /Frankish. They always > insisted they were not Donauschwowe, but Roamer ?Deitsche?.  Officially > they were DS. When we lived in Toronto there were a lot of Rumaer > families:  Rupp, Nagel, Reinprecht, Dillmetz, Habenschuss, Wolf, Minich, > Linzner, Kaufmann, Bornbaum, Bonigut, Schoblocher..... > > Do you have the two Ruma books. There is a lot of history since the first > settlers arrived, but no individual towns or dates of origin. > They list all the male residents but no spouses or birth , marriage or > death dates. > i?m sorry I have no other information. My husband died in seventeen years > ago. > Anne Dreer > In freezing Ontario > > > From: Michael Ewing > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:10 AM > To: Anne Dreer > Subject: Ruma Connection > > Hello Anne, > > I hope you had a wonderful holiday season with your family.  It has been a > while since we corresponded and in the meanwhile, I have established a > DREHER lineage for my family going back to the original Ruma immigrant, > Thomas DREER through his son Balthasar.  As you surely know, the name was > spelled a variety of ways: Dreher, Dreer, Treer, etc. > > I was wondering if your husband has information on his descent to see how > we may connect. > > Best regards, > Mike Ewing > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 01:55:04 +0000 (UTC) > From: Eric Jiran <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH]  Roll Call: RUMA - Felker, Hoffman, Pendl, Wolf > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > My great - grandparents were Anton Felker and Eva Hoffman. > Eva's parents were Ivan Hoffman and Elizabeta Pendl. > Elizabeta's parents were Pavao Pendl and Ana Wolf. > > In 1921, Anton & Eva, along with Elizabeta (now Molnar, she was a widower > twice), and Elizabeta's three step children from her marriage with Molnar, > immigrated to Chicago. > > I know nothing of Anton's parent's or family, except that his mother's > first name was Magdelena. > > Cheers! > Eric Jiran > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 21:44:16 -0500 > From: anna dreer <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Ruma > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;      charset="utf-8" > > Hello Eric, > Do you know any of the Wolf descendants? Which house name did your Ana > Wolf?s family have? > > Are you familiar with the house names? In Ruma every family had a ?house > name? The Wolfs we knew in Toronto had the house name ?Paki?.My husband?s > Dreers were  ?Wusl. > His mother?s side was Linzner, but the house name was Reka. > > Anne Dreer > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message