John, Beth, Thank you for your responses. My Mathias VERBANACZ must have been born by about 1767 so if there is a connection, he'd either be a much younger brother or a nephew of Georg. I don't suppose there is any information on where this family came from before Apatin or general source locations for immigrants to the town at this time, but if that's an incorrect assumption, please let me know. Thanks, Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: John Wrbanek [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:11 PM > To: 'Beth Tolfree'; 'Michael Ewing'; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' > Subject: RE: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK > > Michael, what you see below is essentially what Beth sent me earlier on > Verbanatz from Apatin. Michael (b.1777) and Elizabeth had many children in > Apatin between 1829 and 1843: Juliana (13.6.1829), Joseph (24.2.1832), > Michael (16.4.1836), Anna (24.4.1839), Joannes (10.7.1840), Theresia > (12.2.1842) and Ferentz (9.10.1843). Records show that at least Michael > (father) and children Julianna, Joseph, and Michael living Veliskovci by > 1851 (shout-out thanks to distant cousin Ivan Kovac for digging that up), > but we don't know if the others were with them. My understanding is that > the re-settlement of Veliskovci didn't begin until after 1840, and the > first > church was built in 1860 so records before that are difficult to come by > for > that town. It is such a unique name that a traceable connection between > the > Apatin Verbanatz and Ruma Verbanatz should be possible. > > Thank you Beth. Is there any more information on Josef Becker & Katharina > Lauterbach's family? > > Thanks, > John Wrbanek > > > Subject: RE: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK > > Michael, what you see below is essentially what Beth sent me earlier on > Verbanatz from Apatin. Michael (b.1777) and Elizabeth had many children in > Apatin between 1829 and 1843: Juliana (13.6.1829), Joseph (24.2.1832), > Michael (16.4.1836), Anna (24.4.1839), Joannes (10.7.1840), Theresia > (12.2.1842) and Ferentz (9.10.1843). Records show that at least Michael > (father) and children Julianna, Joseph, and Michael living Veliskovci by > 1851 (shout-out thanks to distant cousin Ivan Kovac for digging that up), > but we don't know if the others were with them. My understanding is that > the re-settlement of Veliskovci didn't begin until after 1840, and the > first > church was built in 1860 so records before that are difficult to come by > for > that town. It is such a unique name that a traceable connection between > the > Apatin Verbanatz and Ruma Verbanatz should be possible. > > Thank you Beth. Is there any more information on Josef Becker & Katharina > Lauterbach's family? > > Thanks, > John Wrbanek > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beth > Tolfree via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:28 PM > To: 'Michael Ewing' <[email protected]>; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK > > VERBONATZ from J.P.Schwend's 'Familienregister Apatin/Abthausen' page 798: > > ?... *1777 Georg VERBONATZ Katharina ZLAMENJAK of ? 5 > children > I. 13 Jan 1807 Michael VERBONATZ Susanna DOMBOVITSCH > II. 13 Feb 1827 Michael VERBONATZ Elisabeth BECKER 11 children > > ---below is copied and pasted from Schwend's CD-Rom: > Nr. 20 Verbonatz Michael Apatin verwitwet > 13.02. Witwer der Dombovitsch Susanna > 1827 Becker Elisabeth Apatin ledig > E " Josef > Lautenbach Katharina > Tr. Z. Dombovitsch Anton und Becker Balthasar getraut von Herold Johann > Kaplan > > VERBONATZ from Jakob Schuy's 'Familienbuch Apatin' - pages 824 and 825: > > Georg VERBONATZ b. 1741 d. 12 Feb 1826 age 85 m. 13 Feb 1776 Katharina > ZLAMENAK (widow) b. 1739 d. 03 Sep 1807 age 66 > Children: > Michael b. 19 Sep 1777 m. 13 Oct 1807 Susanna Dombovits > Theresia b. 02 Jan 1779 m. 04 ul 1803 Stefan Szobanovits Georg b. 16 Nov > 1780 Lorenz b. 10 Aug 1782 d. 24 Jul 1784 Josef b. 13 Apr 1784 d. 01 Jun > 1795 Sebastian b. 20 Jan 1786 > > Georg VERBONATZ age 33 > m. 12 Aug 1793 > Elisabeth BELIAZI b. 24 Sep 1775 daughter of Martin B /Katharina Vestiak > `Children: > Eva b. 23 Dec 1796 d. 13 Jul 1800 > Juliana b. 15 Jun 1799 d. 28 Nov 1800 Maria Anna b. 06 Sep 1801 > Juliana > b. 13 Mar 1804 Adam b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 11 Dec 1806 Eva b. 10 Dec 1806 > d. 23 Dec 1806 Mathias b. 27 Jan 1809 Katharina b. 27 Jan 1811 d. 11 > Feb 1811 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael > Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK > > John (and Beth too), > > I'm looking to connect my VERBANACZ family in Ruma. Around 1811 Erasmus > NOLL married Elisabeth VERBANACZ, however a marriage record has not been > found in Ruma. Her parents were Mathias VERBANACZ and Sophia/Josepha SEBEK > (SEEBECK). Elisabeth was born 1794 in Ruma, but it is likely her parents > were from elsewhere. > > I was wondering if you might be able to share the information you have on > the VERBANACZ family, whether from Apatin or from Veliskovci, in case I can > determine a connection now or at a later date after I have done additional > research. > > Thank you and best regards, > Mike >