​ Posted for John Gruber ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: john.gruber john.gruber <[email protected]> Date: 20 January 2018 at 10:21 ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________ My rollcall text: I'm stuck on the following 4 events. As said below, no records of these events were found in 'obvious' FBs or KBs for the locations mentioned. Maybe they're in filials of these locations, or maybe some events like the marriages were civil? 1. Birth/baptism of my GGF Michael Gruber b. about 1825, possibly from the Ittebe or Pardan areas. He's not in the Pardan FB of church index. Local history claims he was from Alsace, but he was too young for those mid 1700s migrations to Hungary, as in the Stader books; maybe they meant his ancestors were from there? 1. Marriage of my GGPs Michael Gruber (as above), to Anna Wagner b. 1841 in Pardan. Marriage possibly in the late 1860s in Pardan, after which, and where, they had most of their kids. Their marriage isn't in the Pardan FB or church index since marriages apparently only go to 1835. They died in Georgeshausen in 1901 and 1902. 1. Marriage of my GPs Anton Gruber (last kid of my above GGPs) b. 1881 in Georgeshausen, to Eva Heinrich b. 1881 in Setschanfeld. Local history claims they married in 1905, one would think in the Georgeshausen/Setschanfeld/Gross Gaj/Zichydorf area, but their marriage isn't in the Gross Gaj/Zichydorf FBs or KBs. I have what looks like a studio photo of them taken in then Versecz, likely about the time they married in 1905, but their marriage isn't found there either. They emigrated as married to Canada in 1906 with no kids. 1. Marriage of Michael Gruber (jr., another son of my above GGPs) b. 1875 in Pardan, to Margaretha Schmidt b. 1877 in Setschan. They likely married in about the late 1890s before emigrating as married to Canada in 1903 with no kids. The Setchan FB mentions a questionable marriage (oo?) of Margaretha but it doesn't say to who, when or where. There's also an infant death Anna (b. 1898, d. 1899) in Setschan. Maybe Anna was illegitimate, so the father isn't listed? Any help/guidance on these events is appreciated. Thx ... John. ​