Thank you everyone who has replied to my message! I very much appreciate it! Of course in addition to the possibility that my Dietrich family moved to another village, its also possible that the family died out. If they moved, I have no idea in what village they may have moved to or where to look. Jakob Götz, Jeff Rau, Roy Engel, Eve Brown, and others have checked OSB for villages near Kischker and not found anything. Thanks to all that have already checked thier OSBs! I am left only with my my hypothosis that Johann Burghard Dietrich and Katharina Christina Querin were my Johann and Katharina Dietrich listed in the 1812 Census for Neuburg, Grossliebental District of Odessa, South Russia (now Ukraine). But I have no proof. If I found that the family and many generations lived in another village, it would disproove my hypothesis -- I could move on and look elsewhere. I'd appreciate if everyone could keep open eyes for the family in other villages. Johann Michael Dietrich * 1732 in Hirschfeld, Hunsrück, Pflaz m. Maria Gertraud Hoffmann * Hirschfeld K. Johann Matthias Dietrich * 1764 in Oberkleincih, Hunsrück, Pflaz Johann Burghard Dietrich * 1769 Irmenach, Hunsrück, Pfalz Christina Querin's family was one of 12 Catholic families in the early years of Kischker and were listed as Querini (sounds Swiss but no idea where they came from.) the family moved to Kula. This is according to Lorenz's Unforgettable Kischker. Re: Jewish family in Hungary. Lorenz also lists two Jewish families Hirschl, and Spitz, during the early years of Kischker. BTW, I've DNA tested at Ancestry DNA, Family Tree DNA and now MyHeritage DNA. Have uploaded to GEDmatch. The problem is, very few people in Germany have their DNA tested. Well, I know that list member Constanin Gross has tested. I know that some people have privacy concerns with DNA testing, but if you having missing links in your family research its a good way to find important clues. My opinion that is one very important tool in genealogical detective's tool box! Kind regards, Kelly ________________________________ From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 4:26 AM To: mep; John Haumann Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DVHH] Response to all Roll Call messages. I find the possibility of connection with Jewish families from the Banat to be very interesting. My wife's family, Liebgott, have been Catholic for as far back as the family records go, to the 1880s, but there are some anomolies. In the HBO television series "Band of Brothers" about WW2, from ten or so years ago, one of the characters was my wife's cousin Joseph Liebgott, who was portrayed as Jewish. I have spent a lot of time on websites related to the TV series trying to "correct" the story that he was Jewish. However, in my genealogical research, I have found an archived record of his membership card in a San Francisco Jewish serviceman's club. Some of his fellow soldiers thought he was Jewish, and he could have been playing off the perception that Liebgott "sounds Jewish" to gain access to another watering hole in which to drink. (We military types take advantage of every opportunity available). Or, he could have been going off some family history (now forgotten) that the family had Jewish roots. Even though I find this unlikely (my father in law, of Joseph Liebgott's generation, certainly had no notion of the family having Jewish roots), I still find the possibility interesting. I would be interested in hearing from anyone else with a Liebgott or Zimmermann connection from the Banat. On 1/15/2018 6:16 PM, mep via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > It might not have been common but it did happen. > > Do not forget Jewish. My maternal line goes back to Deta, Romania to the > 1780's. My great grandmother was from a Jewish family (a brother of hers > changed his surname to a more German sounding name to avoid the > antisemitism of the day). My grandparents was Catholic. This explains the > small percentage of Jewish genes in my DNA. > > Martin > > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:37 PM, John Haumann via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Kelly, >> >> I suspect inter-religion marriages were not that uncommon. My father was >> originally from a Catholic village (Palanka) and my mother from a Lutheran >> village (Sekitsch). >> >> >> John Haumann >> >> >> ===== >> >> On Jan 15, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone! >>> >>> >>> I have found all of the Roll Call messages and responses extremely >> interesting! There have been so many villages and names that I've not been >> familiar with. I have the impression that most are Catholic villages and >> families. Whereas our Donaushaben were Lutheran and probably came later to >> Hungary. I know our families must have come about 1885-1886 to the >> Batschka. So the villages that I'm most familiar with are Kischker, >> Tscherwenka, Werbass, Torshau, Jarick, and Sekitsch. >>> >>> I do have some questions about all of this: >>> >>> >>> From 1786 onward, how religion segregated were our Donauschaben >> ancestors and how common would inter-religion marriages have been? >>> >>> I ask this because my hypothetical ancestor Johann Burghard Dietrich * >> 1769, who was Lutheran living in Kischker married a Catholic Christina >> Querin in Kula in 1788 (according to the Kula OSB). I can't find any more >> information about this couple nor about their parents. Did they move to >> another village? I assume they lived in Kischker. >>> >>> Does anyone have information about this couple living in any other >> Donauschaben village? Could be Lutheran, could be Catholic. Or >> information about Johann Burghard's parents Michael Dietrich, his wife >> Maria Gertraud Hoffmann or their other son Johann Matthais Dietrich? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> >>> Kelly >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message