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    1. Re: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK
    2. Beth Tolfree

    3. Josef BECKER (son of Jakob B & Margaretha IMHOF) born 25 Feb 1778 died 14 Dec 1833 m. 23 Nov 1801 I. Katharina LAUTERBACH (daughter of Andreas L and Katharina KIHN) born 1789 died 31 Mar 1820 Children: Johann 02 Mar 1802 Josef 06 May 1803 Elisabeth 16 Mar 1805 Ohann 24 Feb 1807 Michael 28 Mar 1809 / 19 Jun 1809 Katharina 27 Feb 1811 Mathias 08 Mar 1813 Susanna 29 Jan 1815 Martin 23 Jan 1818 Johann 30 Mar 1820 / 30 Mar 1820 II. Elisabeth STRUMBERGER (daughter of Bernhard S and Elisabeth WEBER) b. 07 Dec 1796 died 16 Aug 1861 m. 28 Nov 1820 7 Children:- Franz 1822/Josef 1823/Katharina 1825/Thomas 1826/Christoph 1828/Agatha 1831/Anton 1833 Beth -----Original Message----- From: John Wrbanek [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:11 PM To: 'Beth Tolfree'; 'Michael Ewing'; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' Subject: RE: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK Michael, what you see below is essentially what Beth sent me earlier on Verbanatz from Apatin. Michael (b.1777) and Elizabeth had many children in Apatin between 1829 and 1843: Juliana (13.6.1829), Joseph (24.2.1832), Michael (16.4.1836), Anna (24.4.1839), Joannes (10.7.1840), Theresia (12.2.1842) and Ferentz (9.10.1843). Records show that at least Michael (father) and children Julianna, Joseph, and Michael living Veliskovci by 1851 (shout-out thanks to distant cousin Ivan Kovac for digging that up), but we don't know if the others were with them. My understanding is that the re-settlement of Veliskovci didn't begin until after 1840, and the first church was built in 1860 so records before that are difficult to come by for that town. It is such a unique name that a traceable connection between the Apatin Verbanatz and Ruma Verbanatz should be possible. Thank you Beth. Is there any more information on Josef Becker & Katharina Lauterbach's family? Thanks, John Wrbanek -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beth Tolfree via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:28 PM To: 'Michael Ewing' <[email protected]>; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK VERBONATZ from J.P.Schwend's 'Familienregister Apatin/Abthausen' page 798: ?... *1777 Georg VERBONATZ Katharina ZLAMENJAK of ? 5 children I. 13 Jan 1807 Michael VERBONATZ Susanna DOMBOVITSCH II. 13 Feb 1827 Michael VERBONATZ Elisabeth BECKER 11 children ---below is copied and pasted from Schwend's CD-Rom: Nr. 20 Verbonatz Michael Apatin verwitwet 13.02. Witwer der Dombovitsch Susanna 1827 Becker Elisabeth Apatin ledig E " Josef Lautenbach Katharina Tr. Z. Dombovitsch Anton und Becker Balthasar getraut von Herold Johann Kaplan VERBONATZ from Jakob Schuy's 'Familienbuch Apatin' - pages 824 and 825: Georg VERBONATZ b. 1741 d. 12 Feb 1826 age 85 m. 13 Feb 1776 Katharina ZLAMENAK (widow) b. 1739 d. 03 Sep 1807 age 66 Children: Michael b. 19 Sep 1777 m. 13 Oct 1807 Susanna Dombovits Theresia b. 02 Jan 1779 m. 04 ul 1803 Stefan Szobanovits Georg b. 16 Nov 1780 Lorenz b. 10 Aug 1782 d. 24 Jul 1784 Josef b. 13 Apr 1784 d. 01 Jun 1795 Sebastian b. 20 Jan 1786 Georg VERBONATZ age 33 m. 12 Aug 1793 Elisabeth BELIAZI b. 24 Sep 1775 daughter of Martin B /Katharina Vestiak `Children: Eva b. 23 Dec 1796 d. 13 Jul 1800 Juliana b. 15 Jun 1799 d. 28 Nov 1800 Maria Anna b. 06 Sep 1801 Juliana b. 13 Mar 1804 Adam b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 11 Dec 1806 Eva b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 23 Dec 1806 Mathias b. 27 Jan 1809 Katharina b. 27 Jan 1811 d. 11 Feb 1811 -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK John (and Beth too), I'm looking to connect my VERBANACZ family in Ruma. Around 1811 Erasmus NOLL married Elisabeth VERBANACZ, however a marriage record has not been found in Ruma. Her parents were Mathias VERBANACZ and Sophia/Josepha SEBEK (SEEBECK). Elisabeth was born 1794 in Ruma, but it is likely her parents were from elsewhere. I was wondering if you might be able to share the information you have on the VERBANACZ family, whether from Apatin or from Veliskovci, in case I can determine a connection now or at a later date after I have done additional research. Thank you and best regards, Mike ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:00:51 -0500 > From: John Wrbanek <[email protected]> > To: "'Rita Schiwanowitsch'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" > > Sorry, I don' t have the family book for Apatin. What I have on > Apatin is from Beth Tolfree, Village Coordinator > (http://www.dvhh.org/apatin), who kindly sent me scans of relevant > pages from the book for my Verbanatz relations. > > My Becker from Apatin is my fourth great-grandmother Elizabeth Becker, > who married a Michael Verbanatz. Though she had several children in > Apatin, I don't know if she is originally from Apatin or if her > parents even were. > Her father was supposedly Joseph, and she would have been born > probably sometime before 1800 (which is a guess on my part). I know > Michael died in Veliskovci, but I know very little of Elizabeth. This > is a foggy part of my tree which I would like to solve at some point. > > John W. > _____ > > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of > John Wrbanek via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:54 AM > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin > > Roll Call of my Donauschwaben Villages with Surnames in order of > nearest > generation: > > VELI?KOVCI: Vrbanac (Verbanatz, Verbanecz), Bajer (Bayer), Balenti?, > Gissinger, Takali? > > BRESONDORF (TIROL): Windbacher, Lohm?ller > > GROSS-SCHAM: Windbacher, Damit (Damith), Oestericher (?sterreicher), > Lorenz (Lorencz, Lauritz), Neumann, Hubert, Makovitz, Schneider, > Glaser, Oehl > (?ll) > > FILIPOWA: Schmidt, Milla, Rapp, Zollitsch, Hluschek, Lauschek, Mattes, > Pertschi (Bertschi), Ertl, Hock, Horn, Martinetz, Ruppaner, Urich, > Wituschek (Vitou?ek), etc... > > K?BEKH?ZA: Windbacher > > KERNEI: Werle, Keiling, Keller, Burger, Sonntag > > MARIENFELD: Windbacher, Kollet, M?ller, Schneider, Oehl (?ll), Knab, > Schulder, Stagl, etc. > > APATIN: Verbanatz (Verbanecz, Vrbanac), Becker, Zlamenak, > Lausenbacher?, Keller? > > Of particular interest is information on the families from VELI?KOVCI > and BRESONDORF. More information on my paternal family's distant > APATIN roots is also always of interest. > > Thanks, > > John Wrbanek > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/14/2018 10:44:24
    1. Re: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK
    2. John Wrbanek

    3. Thanks. Interesting. John W. -----Original Message----- From: Beth Tolfree [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 8:44 AM To: 'John Wrbanek' <[email protected]>; 'Michael Ewing' <[email protected]>; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK Josef BECKER (son of Jakob B & Margaretha IMHOF) born 25 Feb 1778 died 14 Dec 1833 m. 23 Nov 1801 I. Katharina LAUTERBACH (daughter of Andreas L and Katharina KIHN) born 1789 died 31 Mar 1820 Children: Johann 02 Mar 1802 Josef 06 May 1803 Elisabeth 16 Mar 1805 Ohann 24 Feb 1807 Michael 28 Mar 1809 / 19 Jun 1809 Katharina 27 Feb 1811 Mathias 08 Mar 1813 Susanna 29 Jan 1815 Martin 23 Jan 1818 Johann 30 Mar 1820 / 30 Mar 1820 II. Elisabeth STRUMBERGER (daughter of Bernhard S and Elisabeth WEBER) b. 07 Dec 1796 died 16 Aug 1861 m. 28 Nov 1820 7 Children:- Franz 1822/Josef 1823/Katharina 1825/Thomas 1826/Christoph 1828/Agatha 1831/Anton 1833 Beth -----Original Message----- From: John Wrbanek [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:11 PM To: 'Beth Tolfree'; 'Michael Ewing'; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' Subject: RE: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK Michael, what you see below is essentially what Beth sent me earlier on Verbanatz from Apatin. Michael (b.1777) and Elizabeth had many children in Apatin between 1829 and 1843: Juliana (13.6.1829), Joseph (24.2.1832), Michael (16.4.1836), Anna (24.4.1839), Joannes (10.7.1840), Theresia (12.2.1842) and Ferentz (9.10.1843). Records show that at least Michael (father) and children Julianna, Joseph, and Michael living Veliskovci by 1851 (shout-out thanks to distant cousin Ivan Kovac for digging that up), but we don't know if the others were with them. My understanding is that the re-settlement of Veliskovci didn't begin until after 1840, and the first church was built in 1860 so records before that are difficult to come by for that town. It is such a unique name that a traceable connection between the Apatin Verbanatz and Ruma Verbanatz should be possible. Thank you Beth. Is there any more information on Josef Becker & Katharina Lauterbach's family? Thanks, John Wrbanek -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beth Tolfree via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 4:28 PM To: 'Michael Ewing' <[email protected]>; 'DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK VERBONATZ from J.P.Schwend's 'Familienregister Apatin/Abthausen' page 798: ?... *1777 Georg VERBONATZ Katharina ZLAMENJAK of ? 5 children I. 13 Jan 1807 Michael VERBONATZ Susanna DOMBOVITSCH II. 13 Feb 1827 Michael VERBONATZ Elisabeth BECKER 11 children ---below is copied and pasted from Schwend's CD-Rom: Nr. 20 Verbonatz Michael Apatin verwitwet 13.02. Witwer der Dombovitsch Susanna 1827 Becker Elisabeth Apatin ledig E " Josef Lautenbach Katharina Tr. Z. Dombovitsch Anton und Becker Balthasar getraut von Herold Johann Kaplan VERBONATZ from Jakob Schuy's 'Familienbuch Apatin' - pages 824 and 825: Georg VERBONATZ b. 1741 d. 12 Feb 1826 age 85 m. 13 Feb 1776 Katharina ZLAMENAK (widow) b. 1739 d. 03 Sep 1807 age 66 Children: Michael b. 19 Sep 1777 m. 13 Oct 1807 Susanna Dombovits Theresia b. 02 Jan 1779 m. 04 ul 1803 Stefan Szobanovits Georg b. 16 Nov 1780 Lorenz b. 10 Aug 1782 d. 24 Jul 1784 Josef b. 13 Apr 1784 d. 01 Jun 1795 Sebastian b. 20 Jan 1786 Georg VERBONATZ age 33 m. 12 Aug 1793 Elisabeth BELIAZI b. 24 Sep 1775 daughter of Martin B /Katharina Vestiak `Children: Eva b. 23 Dec 1796 d. 13 Jul 1800 Juliana b. 15 Jun 1799 d. 28 Nov 1800 Maria Anna b. 06 Sep 1801 Juliana b. 13 Mar 1804 Adam b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 11 Dec 1806 Eva b. 10 Dec 1806 d. 23 Dec 1806 Mathias b. 27 Jan 1809 Katharina b. 27 Jan 1811 d. 11 Feb 1811 -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Ewing via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 8:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] VERBANATZ, VRBANAC, VRBANEK John (and Beth too), I'm looking to connect my VERBANACZ family in Ruma. Around 1811 Erasmus NOLL married Elisabeth VERBANACZ, however a marriage record has not been found in Ruma. Her parents were Mathias VERBANACZ and Sophia/Josepha SEBEK (SEEBECK). Elisabeth was born 1794 in Ruma, but it is likely her parents were from elsewhere. I was wondering if you might be able to share the information you have on the VERBANACZ family, whether from Apatin or from Veliskovci, in case I can determine a connection now or at a later date after I have done additional research. Thank you and best regards, Mike ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:00:51 -0500 > From: John Wrbanek <[email protected]> > To: "'Rita Schiwanowitsch'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" > > Sorry, I don' t have the family book for Apatin. What I have on > Apatin is from Beth Tolfree, Village Coordinator > (http://www.dvhh.org/apatin), who kindly sent me scans of relevant > pages from the book for my Verbanatz relations. > > My Becker from Apatin is my fourth great-grandmother Elizabeth Becker, > who married a Michael Verbanatz. Though she had several children in > Apatin, I don't know if she is originally from Apatin or if her > parents even were. > Her father was supposedly Joseph, and she would have been born > probably sometime before 1800 (which is a guess on my part). I know > Michael died in Veliskovci, but I know very little of Elizabeth. This > is a foggy part of my tree which I would like to solve at some point. > > John W. > _____ > > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of > John Wrbanek via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:54 AM > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [DVHH] Roll Call 2018- Veliskovci, Bresondorf, Apatin > > Roll Call of my Donauschwaben Villages with Surnames in order of > nearest > generation: > > VELI?KOVCI: Vrbanac (Verbanatz, Verbanecz), Bajer (Bayer), Balenti?, > Gissinger, Takali? > > BRESONDORF (TIROL): Windbacher, Lohm?ller > > GROSS-SCHAM: Windbacher, Damit (Damith), Oestericher (?sterreicher), > Lorenz (Lorencz, Lauritz), Neumann, Hubert, Makovitz, Schneider, > Glaser, Oehl > (?ll) > > FILIPOWA: Schmidt, Milla, Rapp, Zollitsch, Hluschek, Lauschek, Mattes, > Pertschi (Bertschi), Ertl, Hock, Horn, Martinetz, Ruppaner, Urich, > Wituschek (Vitou?ek), etc... > > K?BEKH?ZA: Windbacher > > KERNEI: Werle, Keiling, Keller, Burger, Sonntag > > MARIENFELD: Windbacher, Kollet, M?ller, Schneider, Oehl (?ll), Knab, > Schulder, Stagl, etc. > > APATIN: Verbanatz (Verbanecz, Vrbanac), Becker, Zlamenak, > Lausenbacher?, Keller? > > Of particular interest is information on the families from VELI?KOVCI > and BRESONDORF. More information on my paternal family's distant > APATIN roots is also always of interest. > > Thanks, > > John Wrbanek > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/15/2018 03:19:54