Hi Dan, Thank you! I had quite a bit of help from Mr. Jokob Götz, the Werbass Village Coordinator with my Schmidt ancestors -- actually the Dietrich and Schneiders as well. He was able to help me trace my Schmidts to Thalfang, Pflaz. Ludwig Schmidt emigrated to Werbass with children. His first wife died in Thalfang. He married Margareta Becker in Werbass. The family emigrated to Freudental, Grossliebental District of Odessa about 1806. They were Lutheran. There seems to be very little information about the Schneiders. I only know from the Neuburg Church Book Death record for my 2 x great grandmother, Katharina Elisabetha Schneider that she was born in Tscherwenka about 1799. Her Parents were Peter and Margaretha Schneider born 1770 place unkown. The family was Lutheran. Karl Stumpp says that came from Joehlingen near Karlsruhe. Burt the emigration records I found say that Peter Schneider went to the Crimea about 1808 and was probably Catholic. Joehlingen is/was as I understand, a mostly catholic town. Johann Dietrich, my 3 x great grandfather's first appearance that we have found was in the 1812 census where he was record as living in Neuburg, Grossliebental District of Odessa, South Russia (now Ukraine) with 3 chrildren and wife Katharina. His oldest son, Jakob according to his church book death record was born in Kischker, Hungary in 1793. The family was Lutheran. As you may know, there were 2 Dietrich familys that arrived in Kischer about 1786 and many generations lived there until 1945. One family, that of Johann Nikolaus Dietrich came from Hirschfeld (Kleinich Parish) Hunsrück, Pflaz. The other family was of Valentin Dietrich of Mariental, Pfalz. However, Lorenz in his book "Unforgettable Kischker" mentions a third family, of Michael Dietrich of Hirschfeld who he says was the brother of Nikolaus. But my research found that he was a cousin. He came with a wife Maria Gertraud Hoffmann and two sons Johann Matthias and Johann Burghard who was the age of my 3 x great grandfather Johann born 1769. The family doesn't show up in either of the two family books for Kischker, so presumably they left. My research found Johann Burghard marrying a Catholic girl in Kula, Christina Querin. The Querins are listed as one of the first families in Kischker, but were one of 10 Catholic families that later moved away. The Querins apparently to Kula. After reading the letter form Kaiser Joseph II, and reading how much it cost the empire per colonist I began to wonder if my Schmidt, Schneider and Dietrich families were in debt to the rulers and were among those who left in the middle of night for greener pastures in South Russia. There were quite a few. Of course if I could find any church or civil records for Kischker for 1786 to 1806 and for Neuburg 1806 to 1833, my research would be so much easier! Michael Dietrich was a "Hirt" (herder) so he may have moved around the Batschka from town to town. Just a guess. Kind regards, Kelly ________________________________ From: Andrea & Dan Walter <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 10:19 PM To: 'Kelly Dazet' Subject: RE: [DVHH] ROLL CALL - Dietrich - Schneider-Schmidt I have many Dietrich, Schneider, Schmidt heritage, mostly from Alt and Neuwerbass, Sekitsch and Kischker. Most of these were researched from Evangelical and Reformed church records in these villages. Need more specifics. Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [DVHH] ROLL CALL - Dietrich - Schneider-Schmidt Surnames: Dietrich/Dieterich Schneider Schmidt Batschka Villages: Kischker Tscherwenka Werbass/Neu Werbass Emigrated to Odessa, Black Sea, villages: Neuburg Freudental Emigrated from: Thalfang, Hunsrück, Pflaz Possibly Hirschfeld, Hunsück, Pfalz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kelly, here are the informations about the Schneider family out of the book "Tscherwenka , Cservenka - Crvenka , Batschka, 1785 - 1944" written by Angela Hefner : /Schneider Peter Philipp * 05.09.1764 in Frauenberg/Reichenbach ? 09.05.1840 Sv// //052/065 Joh.Wilhelm u Forster A. Elisab.// //oo 2.oo vor 1806, Riegel Mar.Kathar. 1773 in Otzweiler ? 06.07.1811 , ref Tv 054/065// //Joh.Peter u Hübner Mar.Barbara// //K.: Kath. Elisab. * 25.07.1806 oo 28.11.1826 Mayer Joh.Stefan// // //Schneider Peter Philipp * 05.09.1764 in Frauenberg/Reichenbach ? 09.05.1840 Sv// //052/065 Joh.Wilhelm u Forster A.Elisab.// //oo 11.01.1785 Apatin 1.oo Gräff Mar. Elisab. 1768 ? in Elsass*? Tv 054/065// //K.: Margaretha * 23.06.1804 oo 10.11.1825 Dunkel Heinrich// // //In 1. Ehe oo Phil. Peter Schneider im Winterquartier in Apatin Gräff Mar.Elisabeth, die mit Verwandten durch Wien gekommen war/ Normally the book is online at http://www.akdff.de/wp/ortssippenbuch-neu/ , but it seems so that they have problems with their server today. Kind regards Dieter Am 11.01.2018 um 01:14 schrieb Kelly Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES: > Hi Dan, > > > Thank you! I had quite a bit of help from Mr. Jokob Götz, the Werbass Village Coordinator with my Schmidt ancestors -- actually the Dietrich and Schneiders as well. He was able to help me trace my Schmidts to Thalfang, Pflaz. Ludwig Schmidt emigrated to Werbass with children. His first wife died in Thalfang. He married Margareta Becker in Werbass. The family emigrated to Freudental, Grossliebental District of Odessa about 1806. They were Lutheran. > > > There seems to be very little information about the Schneiders. I only know from the Neuburg Church Book Death record for my 2 x great grandmother, Katharina Elisabetha Schneider that she was born in Tscherwenka about 1799. Her Parents were Peter and Margaretha Schneider born 1770 place unkown. The family was Lutheran. Karl Stumpp says that came from Joehlingen near Karlsruhe. Burt the emigration records I found say that Peter Schneider went to the Crimea about 1808 and was probably Catholic. Joehlingen is/was as I understand, a mostly catholic town. > > > Johann Dietrich, my 3 x great grandfather's first appearance that we have found was in the 1812 census where he was record as living in Neuburg, Grossliebental District of Odessa, South Russia (now Ukraine) with 3 chrildren and wife Katharina. His oldest son, Jakob according to his church book death record was born in Kischker, Hungary in 1793. The family was Lutheran. As you may know, there were 2 Dietrich familys that arrived in Kischer about 1786 and many generations lived there until 1945. One family, that of Johann Nikolaus Dietrich came from Hirschfeld (Kleinich Parish) Hunsrück, Pflaz. The other family was of Valentin Dietrich of Mariental, Pfalz. However, Lorenz in his book "Unforgettable Kischker" mentions a third family, of Michael Dietrich of Hirschfeld who he says was the brother of Nikolaus. But my research found that he was a cousin. He came with a wife Maria Gertraud Hoffmann and two sons Johann Matthias and Johann Burghard who was the age of my 3 x great grandfather Johann born 1769. The family doesn't show up in either of the two family books for Kischker, so presumably they left. My research found Johann Burghard marrying a Catholic girl in Kula, Christina Querin. The Querins are listed as one of the first families in Kischker, but were one of 10 Catholic families that later moved away. The Querins apparently to Kula. > > > After reading the letter form Kaiser Joseph II, and reading how much it cost the empire per colonist I began to wonder if my Schmidt, Schneider and Dietrich families were in debt to the rulers and were among those who left in the middle of night for greener pastures in South Russia. There were quite a few. > > > Of course if I could find any church or civil records for Kischker for 1786 to 1806 and for Neuburg 1806 to 1833, my research would be so much easier! Michael Dietrich was a "Hirt" (herder) so he may have moved around the Batschka from town to town. Just a guess. > > > Kind regards, > > > Kelly > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Andrea & Dan Walter <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 10:19 PM > To: 'Kelly Dazet' > Subject: RE: [DVHH] ROLL CALL - Dietrich - Schneider-Schmidt > > I have many Dietrich, Schneider, Schmidt heritage, mostly from Alt and > Neuwerbass, Sekitsch and Kischker. Most of these were researched from > Evangelical and Reformed church records in these villages. Need more > specifics. > Dan Walter > > -----Original Message----- > From: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kelly > Dazet via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DVHH] ROLL CALL - Dietrich - Schneider-Schmidt > > > Surnames: > > > Dietrich/Dieterich > > > Schneider > > > Schmidt > > > Batschka Villages: > > > Kischker > > > Tscherwenka > > > Werbass/Neu Werbass > > > Emigrated to Odessa, Black Sea, villages: > > > Neuburg > > > Freudental > > > Emigrated from: > > > Thalfang, Hunsrück, Pflaz > > > Possibly Hirschfeld, Hunsück, Pfalz > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus