Darlene, thanks very much for your research. I had already collected and screened the information on the Schowe website. I particularly looked at the last residents in 1944. I suspect that Rena's grandfather on her father's side was "Hetzel, Ludwig, 1878, ev., † im Lager Jarek; Wolf-Gasse (Schiller-Gasse) 27"; his data would seem to match her father's (Hetzel, Ludwig, 26. 6. 1922; 14 -- Seil-Gasse). As an additional indication, her brother was also named Ludwig... Seems to be a collection of Ludwigs there! But I am just not certain. Manfred Roux Hohenzollernstr 60 71067 Sindelfingen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Darlene Dimitrie [mailto:fon.ladee@cogeco.ca] Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Juli 2014 06:35 An: Manfred Roux; royengel@rogers.com; DVHH Webmaster Betreff: Re: AW: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of Ludwig Hetzel Manfred, Roy: I haven't found the detailed info, but here's what I found so far - these are handwritten notes and are incomplete, but they are very interesting. Peter Hetzel, born 1760 - Rappoltsweiler, Alsace-Lorraine (perhaps someone in the group recognizes this town???) From the DVHH website: http://www.dvhh.org/schowe/resources/settlers.html I found the following info --- 53. Hetzel, Adam, Evangelical Lutheran., his wife was Elizabeth Taglieber. He died at age 50 in 1836. 54. Hetzel, George, Evangelical Lutheran., married in 1811 the daughter of Michael Haller, Magdalena Haller he died at age 55 in 1848 55. Hetzel, Peter, Evangelical Lutheran., married in 1813 Eva Morgenstern, daughter of Sebastian Morgenstern. - These three (53,54, 55) were brother and sons of the deceased Peter Hetzel who died at age 73 in 1833 I believe that these 2 Peter Hetzels are the same - the one born in 1760 in my notes - and the one here who died in 1833, aged 73 (so born abt 1760). ====================================================================== Some info on the Febel side: Jakob Hetzel, born Jan 10, 1920 - married to - Katharina Febel, born Nov 28, 1923 Peter Febel, born Mar 20, 1902 - lived in Batschka - ancestors from the Pfalz George Febel - born 1856 This doesn't match with the Febel info on the same DVHH page listed above, but it does show that FEBELs were in Schowe. 19. Febel, Wilhelm, Reformed Lutheran, Son of Christian Febel from Tscherwenka. In 1844 he married Maria Pataky, daughter of Stephan Pataky. --------------------------------------------------------- Neu Schowe - "Ravnoselo" - even plains Heinrichsbrun, Bavaria (not sure why I have this written down) Antonia Harden (Bohemia)- this was another ancestor, not sure if from the Febel side or the Hetzel side. ============================================================== More info when I find the rest of my notes. Darlene Manfred Roux wrote: > Darlene, > > thank you. Further information on that family would be appreciated. > The Jacob who died in Windsor could have been a brother of my wife's > father (born 1922); but unfortunately that generation (her > grandfather's) is still very unclear to us. > Thank you once again! > > Manfred > > > Manfred Roux > Hohenzollernstr 60 > 71067 Sindelfingen > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Darlene Dimitrie [mailto:fon.ladee@cogeco.ca] > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Juli 2014 19:03 > An: royengel@rogers.com; Manfred Roux; DVHH Mail List > Betreff: Re: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of Ludwig Hetzel > > I have the following information: > > Jacob Hetzel, born about 1920 Schowe, died 2004, Windsor, Ontario, > Canada. Married to Katharina, who died in 1992. > > Son of Philipp and Katharina, from Schowe; twin brother of Philipp and > brother of Anna. Predeceased by all of these. > > > In 1942 he was a violinist in the Hungarian Opera Radio Orchestra. > > I have more information on the family, but I have to find it, which > could take a few days :) Will get back to you. > > Darlene > > > > royengel@rogers.com wrote: >> Hi Manfred, >> I am the co-coordinator for Kischker, which lies only a few > kilometers north-east of Schowe. Although the Kischker Familienbuch > does not have a record of either of these ancestors, both Hetzel and > Ziwich names existed in small numbers in Kischker. Unfortunately, the > information is imcomplete. However, this may give you some possible > leads. >> >> Hetzel, (given name unknown) (evangelisch) born approx. 1890 > in Schowe He married Margaretha Roth "Krischdin-Lisse" born > 14.08.1894 in Kischker. >> >> Hetzel, Friedrich (ev.) born approx. 1855 in Schowe, died in > Torschau. He married Elisabetha Schmidt (born 16.02.1859 in > Kischker) on 29.04.1877 in Kischker. >> There is no record of any sons born to them. They had two > daughters: 1) Rosina Theresia 2) Theresia. >> >> Ziwich,Michael (ev.) born approx. 1835 in Schowe. He married I. > Theresia Sohl (ev.) (born approx. 1837 in Kischker) on 30.01.1853 in > Neu-Schowe. There is no record of any offspring. >> He married II. Magdalena Haller (ev.) (born approx. 1840) in approx. > 1864 in Neu-Schowe. They had one son, Philipp, born approx. 1865 in > Schowe. He married Katharina Eidenmueller (ev.) born 20.04.1869 in > Kischker. There is no record of any offspring. >> >> I don't think that this is much help for you, but perhaps if someone > else has some Schowe records, these people might be connected with > your wife's ancestors. >> >> Roy >> >> >> On Friday, July 11, 2014 2:00:29 AM, Manfred Roux <manfred@roux.de> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I am married to Renate Krüger, nee Hetzel, daughter of Ludwig Hetzel >> (born 22 Jun 1922, Alt Schowe) and Theresia Ziwich (born 4 Apr 1923, >> Alt Schowe). Does anyone have information about the heritage of > Ludwig >> Hetzel? Any information or lead would be welcome. >> >> Manfred Roux >> 71067 Sindelfingen >> Germany >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >> > -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html