Hallo Frank in Cape Coral! Like your post, all! But may I quote your last line - bottom line: "don't even like Face book... much info for others to steal your identify" Love your area and crossed the Ft. Myers-Bridge to 'Del Prado' in Cp. Coral many times! We live in the North again where the Wind blows so cold! Gary in Fairview Park/OH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank A Jakob via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: "Susan Sander" <swan1200@hotmail.com> Cc: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ancestry DNA testing > Can someone tell me how much this cost and where to begin? > > I don't like making all this info public in case someone gets us mixed up > with some criminal thing because of a mistake in DNA > > I don't even like Facebook....too much info for other people to steal your > identy > > > > Thanks and Have a Great Day ! > > Frank A. Jakob, Cape Coral Flofida > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Sep 8, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Susan Sander via >> <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Roy ... for your explanation. I knew it was complicated and would >> have to spend a bit of >> time trying to understand all the information. >> >> I'm considering asking my brother to have his DNA tested ... just to see >> how his would differ since >> I am assuming his Y chromosome would bring more information. I will >> print out your explanation >> to help me understand more. >> >> You've started me on a quest to learn more about this type of testing. >> I just find it interesting ... >> and have heard that if we go back 1000 years we find we are all related >> ... which does make sense. >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Susan >> >> >> >> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 22:27:16 -0700 >> From: royengel@rogers.com >> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ancestry DNA testing >> To: swan1200@hotmail.com; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> >> Hi Susan,I have had some DNA ancestry testing done as well and I have a >> bit of a biology background. Without actually seeing the report of your >> results, I'm not sure whether your interpretations of these percentages >> reflect what these percentages actually mean. When these labs test your >> DNA, they are looking at specific markers on the mitochondrial DNA for >> both men and women (these are used to establish the maternal ancestry) >> and specific markers on the Y-chromosome for men (these establish the >> paternal ancestry). These markers, and there are two types, do >> not code for any physical or physiological traits. They are mutations >> that have occurred throughout the history of the human species. One >> type, and I will not go into the details here, mutates very rarely (over >> thousands of years) and is used to establish an individuals deep >> ancestral roots. The other type mutates more frequently (every several >> generations) and can be used to established how distantly two individuals >> are related. An enormous database of the distribution of these markers >> for people around the world has been compiled and it has been used, in >> combination with historical and archaeological records, to hypothesize >> how humans have migrated from the Rift Valley in Africa to all parts of >> the world. Perhaps you have seen such migration maps on the DNA testing >> websites. Since these labs cannot test every known marker for each >> individual, because the cost would be prohibitive, they test 10 to 25 >> representative >> markers and calculate the probability of the individual belonging to a >> particular group. The major groups have been designated by an alphabetic >> letter. For the Y-chromosome (paternal lines), there are 18 main groups: >> A to R. Within each group there are subgroups, which define the ancestry >> more precisely. I have personally had 25 markers tested and I have been >> identified, with a probability of about 90%, that I lie within sub-group >> R1b. This is no surprise, since this is a dominant group in western >> Europe. The more markers that you have tested, the higher the degree of >> certainty as to your ancestral roots. The subgroups also become more and >> more refined (more numbers and letters get added). The problem with this >> science is that throughout history, not all populations that were close >> relatives always migrated together. Therefore, there will always be some >> individuals that have ended up in a part of the >> world that is far from the region where most of there ancestors ended up. >> The end result is that there is quite a bit of "mixing" of these markers >> within a regional population. Hence, there will always be a degree of >> uncertainty. This is where the percentages that you have posted come >> from. So when you look at a map that shows the distribution of groups >> with a specific location, it often has a pie chart that shows the >> percentage of people in that area with each of the main groups present >> there. For mitochondrial DNA (maternal line), the same thing has been >> done. There are 20 main groups ( A to Z , for some reason O,P,Q,S and Y >> have been skipped) for the mDNA markers.Since the people of the world >> have been >> much more mobile for the last several decades and offspring from people >> of different ancestral genetic backgrounds more common, the distribution >> of these genetic markers are becoming much more homogenized throughout >> the world. Nevertheless, the geographical distributions have been firmly >> established and correspond well with the accepted anthropological >> theories of early human migrations. I wish to make it clear that I am >> not an expert in anthropology. Also, this is a fairly simple explanation >> of DNA ancestry testing. If someone wishes to know more about these >> markers, I can post that, but there is so much good information on the >> internet, it would be redundant for me to post it here.I also hope that I >> have not offended >> anyone's religious beliefs with this. If so, I apologize in advance and >> want to make it clear that I respect everyone's belief system and would >> never attempt to change them.Roy >> >> On Sunday, September 7, 2014 8:34 PM, Susan Sander via >> <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> >> I recently took or had administered the DNA testing from Ancestry.com My >> father's family came from Glogowatz, Hungary and can be traced through >> Neupanat; Sankta Anna and Sanktmarton. I have traced one line back to Au >> am Rhein. And my Reichert ancestors from Glogowatz -- family I have >> contacted recently said the Reichert's came from Alsace. My mother's >> family came from Bohemia or the Czech Republic. I have traced both >> paternal and maternal lines back to the early 1700's. This is the result >> of my tests: 37% Eastern Europe which would include Czech Republic, >> Slovakia; Hungary, Romania 23% Western Europe which includes Germany, >> France and Austria >> 23% Scandinavian My paternal aunt tested differently reflecting the >> paternal side of my family. 32% Western Europe 16% Italy; Greece 15% >> Great Britain 15% Eastern Europes 8% Scandinavian And traces of other >> places. I realize my results are different from my paternal aunt (due to >> my DNA from Mom's side). Has anyone else from the Banat tested in a >> similar manner and would they be willing to share the results. >> Obviously I don't mind my results being public on the list; if someone >> would rather share privatelythat would be fine also. I was just >> wondering if anyone else reading this list tested similar to me. >> Susan -------------------------------To >> unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message