I just had a 15 year roadblock erased by a breakthrough with help from a researcher in Timisoara who went to the archives for me. Moral 1: Some information is only available in the archives. Moral 2: Don't put too much weight in family stories. My migrants to the Banat were a good four generations before I was told and they went from an as-yet-unidentified place in Alsace-Lorraine to unidentified place, then to Billed and only then to Orzydorf. This is very different from the stories - quite a few generations were left out. I have added new ancestral names and looking at old resources with a new eye. Right now I am trying to find out from where these folks migrated. If anyone shares ancestors with these names or spellings, I would love to hear from you. New names or spellings and places: Heil - Orzydorf (specifically the parents of Jacobus Heil b. before 1805) Fridrich - Billed (specifically the parents of Ignatius Fridrich b.1757) Jost - Billed Ningl, Ningl - Billed The gal in Timisoara who helped me and another list member is familiar with the archives, college educated, and fluent in English and Romanian. I now her personally. She is less expensive than the pros and does this on her days off. I don't know whether I am allowed by the list to post her contact information, but I would be happy to provide it if you email me. She uses Pay Pal for payment. Diane Halas