These books also look interesting. 7 volums of Stader, Stefan Sammelwerk donauschwäbischer> Kolonist, From: robertfhain@hotmail.com To: swan1200@hotmail.com; dvhalas@comcast.net; donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:20:18 -0400 Susan,You asked for a list of my Hein ancestors. Attached you will find this list. Some had birth dates and some had just the years and of course some had only the first and last name.I do think that I want to look into the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner's 6 books, if they are not ridiculously expensive. In the mean time, any help would be appreciated.Bob Hain From: swan1200@hotmail.com To: robertfhain@hotmail.com; dvhalas@comcast.net; donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 17:21:10 -0400 Bob -- I may have mentioned before but I do have the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner CD which is a record of their book listing registrations in Vienna. Not all registered there. I need to look again at any Hain or Hein registrations. Stader volumes would also be of interest .... it contains some information not in W&K. Just returned from a short trip ... but would be will copy some pages that could be of interest to you. Please list the earliest information you have on Hain ... and any other names. Unfortunately, for many of us the earliest we can find is the Reich or Holy Roman Empire. Susan > To: dvhalas@comcast.net; donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:30:03 -0400 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > DIANE,My most singular question remains the same. Does anyone have information regarding the registration data from Vienna or Ulm?Bob Hain > > > To: donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 07:25:42 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement > > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > My apologies. I may have confused people with my syntax. It was my > > grandmother who talked about Alsace-Lorraine not the researcher. Yes, I > > know most immigrants to the Banat registered in Vienna. I am sure my > > grandmother did not know that and believed that her ancestors got there > > through the military. (I still do not have an answer to that.) > > > > > > > > The researcher I used has access right now ONLY to Timis County record > > archives in Timisoara and the Roman Catholic Timis Dioceses archives. She > > does not travel to do research at present. She does not do the rest of > > Romania. So if your ancestors' village was in Timis county at one time, > > their records may be in the archives. (Many books as you know are missing.) > > If they lived somewhere else, it is unlikely she can help you. > > > > > > > > My apologies if I was not clear. > > > > > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > Diane Halas > > > > 239-592-9969 > > > > > > > > From: Bob Hain [mailto:robertfhain@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 4:38 PM > > To: Diane Halas; 'DVHH Mail List' > > Subject: RE: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement > > > > > > > > Diane, > > > > Is it her claim that immigrants to the Banat all traveled through > > > > Alsace-lorraine? I have read over the years that there were several start > > up points and eventually they all went through Vienna. Do you think that > > she can get information through these archives for me? My ancestors > > traveled to Glogowatz Romania previously Othalom Hungary, and and during the > > time between 1750 and 1775. > > > > Can you ask her to email me? > > > > Bob Hain /Hein > > > > > > > > I just had a 15 year roadblock erased by a breakthrough with help from a > > > > researcher in Timisoara who went to the archives for me. > > Moral 1: Some information is only available in the archives. > > Moral 2: Don't put too much weight in family stories. My migrants to the > > Banat were a good four generations before I was told and they went from an > > as-yet-unidentified place in Alsace-Lorraine to unidentified place, then to > > Billed and only then to Orzydorf. This is very different from the stories - > > quite a few generations were left out. I have added new ancestral names and > > looking at old resources with a new eye. > > > > Right now I am trying to find out from where these folks migrated. If > > anyone shares ancestors with these names or spellings, I would love to hear > > from you. > > > > New names or spellings and places: > > Heil - Orzydorf (specifically the parents of Jacobus Heil b. before 1805) > > Fridrich - Billed (specifically the parents of Ignatius Fridrich b.1757) > > Jost - Billed > > Ningl, Ningl - Billed > > > > The gal in Timisoara who helped me and another list member is familiar with > > the archives, college educated, and fluent in English and Romanian. I now > > her personally. She is less expensive than the pros and does this on her > > days off. I don't know whether I am allowed by the list to post her > > contact information, but I would be happy to provide it if you email me. She > > uses Pay Pal for payment. > > > > > > > > > To: Donauschwaben-Villages-L@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:02:11 -0400 > > > Subject: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement > > > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > > > I just had a 15 year roadblock erased by a breakthrough with help from a > > > researcher in Timisoara who went to the archives for me. > > > Moral 1: Some information is only available in the archives. > > > Moral 2: Don't put too much weight in family stories. My migrants to the > > > Banat were a good four generations before I was told and they went from an > > > as-yet-unidentified place in Alsace-Lorraine to unidentified place, then > > to > > > Billed and only then to Orzydorf. This is very different from the stories > > - > > > quite a few generations were left out. I have added new ancestral names > > and > > > looking at old resources with a new eye. > > > > > > Right now I am trying to find out from where these folks migrated. If > > > anyone shares ancestors with these names or spellings, I would love to > > hear > > > from you. > > > > > > New names or spellings and places: > > > Heil - Orzydorf (specifically the parents of Jacobus Heil b. before 1805) > > > Fridrich - Billed (specifically the parents of Ignatius Fridrich b.1757) > > > Jost - Billed > > > Ningl, Ningl - Billed > > > > > > The gal in Timisoara who helped me and another list member is familiar > > with > > > the archives, college educated, and fluent in English and Romanian. I now > > > her personally. She is less expensive than the pros and does this on her > > > days off. I don't know whether I am allowed by the list to post her > > > contact information, but I would be happy to provide it if you email me. > > She > > > uses Pay Pal for payment. > > > > > > Diane Halas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message