Hi Mandy, I haven't checked if such lists exist. But perhaps you can do a search including the words: list POW soldiers Canada and the US, you may find what you are looking for. Best to you. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Kaiser" <akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au> To: "Tina Michel" <tranpro@primus.ca> Cc: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 5:38 PM Subject: RE: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps Hi, Are there any websites that list POW soldiers to to Canada or the US? Perhaps I could find my great uncles that way? I am looking for. .. Stephan Kaiser b : 24 June 1926 Nikolaus Kaiser b :20 May 1928 Mathias Kaiser b :10 July 1930 Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser b: 3 Nov 1934 They were all born in Groß Betschkerek and lived there at least until Nov 1944. I am trying to locate them and their families. I don't know if they married, had children or survived. Kind regards Mandy ________________________________________ From: Tina Michel [tranpro@primus.ca] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2014 1:30 AM To: Amanda Kaiser Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps My pleasure. (Acts 20:35) Have a wonderful rest of the week. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Kaiser" <akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au> To: "Tina Michel" <tranpro@primus.ca> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: RE: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps Hey Tina, Sorry for the late reply, I've been working flat out out! Thanks heaps for the links...I will have a look/read/search. You have been so kind! Thankyou :-) Mandy ________________________________________ From: Tina Michel [tranpro@primus.ca] Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 9:17 AM To: Amanda Kaiser Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps Dear Mandy, Try typing POW US/Canada, it may give you a few information. Otherwise I wouldn't know. http://www.traces.org/germanpows.html http://www.djcarter.ca/pow.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_prisoner-of-war_camps_in_the_United_States Best regards, Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Kaiser" <akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au> To: "Tina Michel" <tranpro@primus.ca>; <gerbanz@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:33 AM Subject: RE: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps Thanks so much for the link! I have never heard of the song before. Is there any links to search for pow in the US or Canada? Most sites that have info here in Australia are blocked when it comes to any sort of nazi connection so searching Afrika Korps I seem to just get toy soldiers, tank enthusiasts and uniform collectors. Making it difficult from down here. Hope you are both well....it's freezing here! :-) Mandy ________________________________________ From: Tina Michel [tranpro@primus.ca] Sent: Friday, 1 August 2014 1:34 PM To: Amanda Kaiser; Gary Banzhaf Cc: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps Mandy, This is is in regards to your question on Lili Marleen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Marleen. Gary, So you may even have met my grandparents, uncle, aunt and cousins went they arrived in Ohio in the fifthies. They live in Missouri right now. Grüss Gott und noch alles Gutes, wünscht euch beide, Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> Cc: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > Yes it is very interesting! And who who is "Lili Marlen"? > > It was tabu in my family to talk about anything that happened before they > came to Australia! I didn't even know that Opa was drafted, my > grandparents had a double wedding, whether they were German, Austrian or > Yugoslav because my Oma would change her nationality to suit the > situation! I didn't even know I had family overseas until they all passed > away! I've found a whole heap of old photos hidden in a tin which for me > opened up a can of worms. With photos from Afrikakorps, local farmers with > the nazi banners all of which I have no idea of people, places or when > they were taken. > > I was as shocked as any because this was a part of my family history > hidden from me. it would be great to hear some stories like your friend > Bruno to help understand what it was like for my Opa. I know he was forced > to join Afrikakorps and after talking to another war veteran here, he was > forced to join the partisans. He says there was no choice- it was > different times and I would never understand. He told me his story and it > was a real eye opener for what he went through. I know it's a part of > history that majority want to erase from the history books. For my > generation (I'm in my 30's) and my daughters generation it's important to > know where your roots are even if it's bad. Seems if I ask anyone who knew > my family they avoid the subject or have to go. So it's still tabu to > talk about it and I can understand. > > I'm the oldest one left in my Kaiser family so for me it's important to be > able to pass on my family history to my daughter. > I do not intend to offend or anger anyone. I am merely trying to gain > understanding of what is was like for my Opa as a pow having a part in the > "war of the desert" as I have not lived through war. > > With respect > Mandy > > ________________________________________ > From: Gary Banzhaf [gerbanz@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 5:30 AM > To: Amanda Kaiser > Cc: Tina Michel transpro@primus.ca > Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> > To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > > > G'Day Amanda 'down under!' > Very interesting story you've opened from the 'War in the desert' and > little is known of this campaign in Afrika or other war stories- > because of the Wehrmachts uniform, disliked by many. In a sense it is > tabu in a genealogical forum. > My congatulations to Tina (Canada) for the fascinating gutsy link! > > I also was born in former Yugoslavia, on the other side of the Danube, > near its capitol Belgrade. > Was about the same age as your Opa, at that time, but not yet drafted > Followed every move by the Afrika Korps - and not to forget 'Lili > Marlen' > I came here in the mid fifties and met Bruno from Dortmund. He probable > never heard of Gross Betschkerek - > but perhaps walked near your Opa Kaiser in the desert sand. Told me his > comrades in the Korps came from all German provinces and man born > outside > Germany - "ethnic Germans." etc. He could speak many > dialects and when I told him I lived postwar in Austria he spoke > Austrian - > and when I said my ancestors came from the Schwabenland, he spoke > schwaebisch. > Knew Bruno for about forty years and our families got together Sundays > for 'Kaffee und Kuchen.' Never stoped talking of his military service: > Montgomery at El Alamain, POW camp Suez, for many months. The camp, > prisioners interned, were men of all military branches and they got > shipped to the Canadian West coast and > transported hundreds of miles > from Lethbridge Alberta in the Canadian Wilderness to where he returned > on a tourist trip years later. > Local newspapermen after him. > Headline on a paper he displayd: 'German ex-POW returns' - nothing left > of a former Can. POW camp. > > Yeah, Bruno's stories, how can I forget. His two daughters settled in > Columbus, the States capitol. Bruno and his wife followed. > He died in a home for the aged at age 92, just last year, > North Africa on his mind, certainly. > > Gruss nach Australien und Kanada !!! > Gary Gerhard Banzhaf in Ohio/US > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:49 AM >> Subject: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps >> >> >>> >>> G'day, >>> I have a question about the Deutsche Afrika Korps and am asking if >>> anyone >>> is familiar with it. I am looking for my family and I have recently >>> discovered my Oppa Franz Kaiser was drafted in 1941 from his home town >>> Gr >>> Betschkerek. He was 17 when he was drafted and was sent to Africa. Later >>> he was sent to Egypt as POW and then returned to Wolfsegg, Austria (not >>> sure when or the time frames). He worked in Vocklabruck building the >>> Flukolager after 1948. 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