The question I have is, what would our forebears call us, if they could see us carrying on like this? On Monday, May 19, 2014, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > To all, sorry coming into this late, Joe knows how I feel about some of > his comments and as far as posting to the list - I would be the guilty > party here as I've tried to encourage everyone to be open with their > comments so others can learn - However, I agree with Jody (and Henry and > Rose) that some things have gone above and beyond and if Joe does not feel > he is Donauschwaben or Danube Swabian - then he belongs somewhere else. I > want people to debate different opinions and hash things out, but this > thing has truly gotten to be too much and a little too filled with anger > and hate (I am talking with you Joe) and I really tried to stress being > kind and considerate and that means respecting others on this mail list. > > My apologies everyone as I feel this is my fault for not putting a stop to > this a long time ago. > > Eve > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com<javascript:;> > >wrote: > > > I heartily agree with your words, Henry, and fully appreciate the > > responsibilities of Rose's position. There was something I read at the > > Donauschwaben Museum in Ulm.... a quotation from Bela Bartok... that > stuck > > me as good words to try to live by. I feel this may be the time to share > > these words again..... > > "Bei dem Bauern gibt es keine spur von grimmigen Hass gegen andere Volker > > und hat es nie gegeben. Sie leben friedlich nebeneinander, jeder spricht > > seine Sprache, halt sich an seine eigenen Gebrauche un findet es ganz > > naturlich, dass sein anderessprachiger Nachbar das gleiche tut..... " > > "Amongst the farmers, there was no need to hate people that were > > different, and never has been. They lived feely next to one another, each > > speaking their own language and seeing to their own needs. And found it > > very natural that their neighbors, who spoke another language, did the > > same." > > Rita > > > > > > > > > From: hjfischer@rogers.com > > > To: rosevetter@gmail.com; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com; > > schiwanore@msn.com > > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Shwovish, Shwobe, Shwoveh - A New Terminology? > > > Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 17:41:28 -0400 > > > > > > Dear Fellow Listers, > > > > > > Whether Rose's email was meant to be private or not she is fulfilling > her > > > responsibility as part of the Editorial Committee of the DVHH whose > task > > is > > > to maintain the integrity of our mandate and purpose as it applies to > our > > > membership and postings. This is a very difficult role to play and we > > owe > > > Rose our gratitude for her conscientious efforts in this regard on all > > our > > > behalf and for the ongoing welfare and health of the DVHH. > > > > > > Henry Fischer > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rita Schiwanowitsch > > > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 4:37 PM > > > To: Rose Vetter ; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Shwovish, Shwobe, Shwoveh - A New Terminology? > > > > > > Rose... I think you really meant this to be a private scolding. > > Publically > > > berating someone makes everyone uncomfortable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Rose Vetter<mailto:rosevetter@gmail.com> > > > Sent: 5/19/2014 2:15 PM > > > To: DVHH-L<mailto:Donauschwaben-Villages-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Subject: [DVHH] Shwovish, Shwobe, Shwoveh - A New Terminology? > > > > > > Hello Joe, > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve been reading your recent posts with growing concern. In one of > them > > > you went as far as congratulating one of our mail list members on “a > good > > > fight”, along with an invitation to join you on another forum. A > remark > > > like that is hardly in line with our policy of being kind to each other > > on > > > this mail list. > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel that your highly political and confrontational comments are in > > > contravention of our Mailing List Guidelines which you will find here: > > > > > > http://www.dvhh.org/community/mail-list.htm > > > > > > This forum is intended for people who want to research the ancestry, > > > history and heritage of our people who settled along the middle course > of > > > the Danube; they called themselves “Schwowe” in their language or > > “Mundart”. > > > The collective term “Donauschwaben, Danube Swabian, Podunavske Švabe”, > > etc. > > > has been accepted in history books and literature in different > languages, > > > whether you accept it or not—who are we to change it? Your > > "Englishized", > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com <javascript:;> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Sent from Gmail Mobile