Hello Lotte, i remember some of those Names , Rudolf Geringer , and Kaip, did they had some Position in Haid ? that was so long ago , i try to Remember, that time i was a Child, but old enough to work beim Bauer, about 2 miles from Haid. my 2 Sister,s went to School in Haid, think i remember Lehrer Leisch. i remember when you walk toward Traun there was a Texas - Bude where some went for a Glass Wein , there was a Dance Hal where i sometimes went. then there was the Metzker Repa . besite Repa was a little Store ,corner - Store i forgot the name , latter there was a big Store the Konsum Therese On May 12, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Lotte Devlin wrote: > wow Eve and Therese, > > Most of my relatives that were in lager Haid remained in Haid and Traun. Their family name was Geringer, and all originally came from Weisskirchen in the Banat. My mother was a Geringer who married my father, Michael Leisch (from Mastort). He started the camp school in Haid and brought a number of his teacher friends there to teach in the camp. > > Here are some of the names of my relatives that still live in Haid/Traun: > > Rudolf Geringer > Peter Kaip > Norbert Kaip > Lothar Friedrich > > They are all related to the Geringer family in one way or the other. > > Eve, where can I get the Lager Haid book? You said you got it from one of your relatives in Traun? > > Lotte > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> > To: therese schmidt <trherschas@yahoo.com> > Cc: donauschwaben-villages <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 5:09 pm > Subject: Re: [DVHH] DS descendants - going forward! > > My mother and sister went in 95 and said about the same thing. My uncle > Jakob lived in Traun and his daughter still does. Some family went to > Wels. My father used to work in Linz - rode his bike there from Haid. > > Have you seen the Book from the camp that was made? The cover I have is > green, my cousins from Traun sent it to me. Lots of pictures. > > Eve > > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:04 PM, therese schmidt <trherschas@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > Hello Eve, > > we came to Lager- Haid 1950, from lower Austria by Wien . > > we landet in Linz in a camp by Family members , from there to Lager > > Haid , > > 1954 to the U S A. sorry to say , i can not recall any of those > > names , > > when ever i went to Germany, with my Husband , we went to Austria > > and Lager Haid , some Family members still live there , the all got > > there own House > > some in Traun and around , Lager Haid has change a loot, there > > is only one > > Baracke left ,maybe to remember what it used to look like , when > > some of our People > > lived there , there are Condos, Stores .Restaurant Motels, > > even the church is build new .5 years ago i was there, it brings > > happy, > > und sad memories , > > Therese . > > > > On May 12, 2014, at 7:37 AM, Eve wrote: > > > > Hello Therese, > > > > My parents too were at Haid Lager, but left in 51. Still at the camp were > > family members and friends, names of Siller, Dautermann, Sklena. Do any > > ring a bell? > > > > Eve > > > > > > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:11 PM, therese schmidt <trherschas@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > >> Hi Rita, > >> i,m new here, i agree what you have Written , > >> the same happen to my Parent , we lived in > >> Lager Haid Austria, in 1953 they appellate for German Citizenship > >> the where refused > >> my Father was in the German Army , they did not go to Germany , > >> instate the came to the U S A, Illinois , of 1954 , > >> they joint the Donau Schwaben Verrein and American Aid Society , > >> it was there where the Word Schwowe, - Schaben or Donauschwaben > >> was always spoken of. > >> Therese > >> > >> On May 11, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Eve wrote: > >> > >> > Hi Rita, > >> > > >> > You know as I do too, that growing up with family with issues of anger > >> and > >> > long believed prejudices that as a child we can't begin to understand > >> how > >> > all these things came about. The thoughts of our ancestors and how they > >> > lived their lives and depending on which side of the coin they fell, > >> where > >> > their own personal sympathies laid. I'm getting confused just writing > >> this > >> > and trying to stay politically correct. > >> > > >> > The thing is.....we as posters don't necessarily agree with or even > >> > comprehend the how or why of any of it. I know there are many out here > >> on > >> > the list who have lived it first hand, I have the second hand variety - > >> > seen the anger, frustration the loss - and not a clue as to why!!!! > >> Until > >> > I found out about the DS and their journey (long before anyone thought > >> to > >> > coin the name Donauschwaben) was I able to start to make sense of what > >> was > >> > to many considered a horrible childhood for me (and my parents escaped > >> and > >> > were not in one of Tito's camps). Yes, indeed it is a difficult thing > >> to > >> > explain, but a real treasure when you do catch someone's ear and are > >> able > >> > to discuss it with the passion that I see shared here on the list. > >> > > >> > Eve > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch < > >> schiwanore@msn.com>wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi Eve, > >> >> My Mother made a personal decision not to go to Germany after the war. > >> >> She and my Oma lived in the Graz area in Austria after escaping in 1948 > >> >> and worked on local farms. My Oma was approached by some agency that > >> was > >> >> helping the refugees find places to reestablish themselves. The > >> options > >> >> were Germany, USA, or Australia. Even though the majority of my family > >> >> went to Germany, Mom refused. Said there was no way she was going > >> there > >> >> (Stubborness runs in my family... Dickschädl for those that know the > >> >> lingo). She felt Germany was the cause of all of their hardships and > >> >> heartaches... and that Germany's actions were responsible for the > >> murder of > >> >> her father.... her brother's death (at that time he was MIA).... and > >> the > >> >> loss of everything that she ever knew. She would have been about 24 > >> years > >> >> old at the time of that decision. My Oma finally gave in to her and > >> they > >> >> came to the USA. Oma would go to Germany every few years or so to > >> visit > >> >> with her brothers, sisters, and their families. Some came to visit us > >> >> occasionally. Oma really missed her immediate family. All in all, Mom > >> >> still feels that is was the right thing to do. This also makes me > >> wonder > >> >> what nationlity she really considered herself to be in 1944.... > >> especially > >> >> since she would not involve herself with the Kulturbund (German > >> Cultural > >> >> Club) that established itself in Jugoslavia after WWII and, some feel, > >> >> responsible for promoting Hitler's philosophies. She says she is > >> German or > >> >> Austrian (depending on who she is talking to). But, only because she > >> >> doesn't want to have to explain about herself and her background. She > >> was > >> >> and still is not ashamed. But, the lack of knowledge Americans have > >> about > >> >> Donauschwaben and the end of WWII, make it a difficult explanation. > >> >> Rita From Colorado, Jabuka, and Bistritz > >> >>> From: evebrown@gmail.com > >> >>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 18:35:42 -0400 > >> >>> To: danielashowley@aol.com > >> >>> CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> >>> Subject: Re: [DVHH] German-Hungarians - Nationality vs Citizenship > >> >>> > >> >>> Daniela, > >> >>> > >> >>> My mom & dad told the same story. Mom didn't feel wanted in Austria > >> - or > >> >>> like she belonged and were refused entrance into Germany in 1946 as it > >> >> was > >> >>> overcrowded and they already had some cousins that were admitted - > >> early > >> >> on > >> >>> in 45. > >> >>> > >> >>> Eve > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' > >> >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > >> > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > > > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

Therese and Lotte, I am sending this post through the list just to let others who may be interested in the book. It is called: D.P. Siedlung 121 Haid 1941 bis 1961 Historisch-biographische Foptodokumentation by Maria Weiss I will send some attachments to you privately. Eve On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:16 PM, therese schmidt <trherschas@yahoo.com>wrote: > Hello Lotte, > i remember some of those Names , Rudolf Geringer , > and Kaip, did they had some Position in Haid ? that was so long ago , > i try to Remember, that time i was a Child, but old enough to work > beim Bauer, about 2 miles from Haid. my 2 Sister,s went to School > in Haid, think i remember Lehrer Leisch. i remember when you walk > toward Traun there was a Texas - Bude > where some went for a Glass Wein , there was a Dance Hal where i > sometimes went. > then there was the Metzker Repa . besite Repa was a little Store > ,corner - Store i forgot the name , latter there was a big Store the > Konsum > Therese > > On May 12, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Lotte Devlin wrote: > > wow Eve and Therese, > > Most of my relatives that were in lager Haid remained in Haid and Traun. > Their family name was Geringer, and all originally came from Weisskirchen > in the Banat. My mother was a Geringer who married my father, Michael > Leisch (from Mastort). He started the camp school in Haid and brought a > number of his teacher friends there to teach in the camp. > > Here are some of the names of my relatives that still live in Haid/Traun: > > Rudolf Geringer > Peter Kaip > Norbert Kaip > Lothar Friedrich > > They are all related to the Geringer family in one way or the other. > > Eve, where can I get the Lager Haid book? You said you got it from one of > your relatives in Traun? > > Lotte > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> > To: therese schmidt <trherschas@yahoo.com> > Cc: donauschwaben-villages <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 5:09 pm > Subject: Re: [DVHH] DS descendants - going forward! > > My mother and sister went in 95 and said about the same thing. My uncle > Jakob lived in Traun and his daughter still does. Some family went to > Wels. My father used to work in Linz - rode his bike there from Haid. > > Have you seen the Book from the camp that was made? The cover I have is > green, my cousins from Traun sent it to me. Lots of pictures. > > Eve > > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:04 PM, therese schmidt <trherschas@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > Hello Eve, > > we came to Lager- Haid 1950, from lower Austria by Wien . > > we landet in Linz in a camp by Family members , from there to Lager > > Haid , > > 1954 to the U S A. sorry to say , i can not recall any of those > > names , > > when ever i went to Germany, with my Husband , we went to Austria > > and Lager Haid , some Family members still live there , the all got > > there own House > > some in Traun and around , Lager Haid has change a loot, there > > is only one > > Baracke left ,maybe to remember what it used to look like , when > > some of our People > > lived there , there are Condos, Stores .Restaurant Motels, > > even the church is build new .5 years ago i was there, it brings > > happy, > > und sad memories , > > Therese . > > > > On May 12, 2014, at 7:37 AM, Eve wrote: > > > > Hello Therese, > > > > My parents too were at Haid Lager, but left in 51. Still at the camp were > > family members and friends, names of Siller, Dautermann, Sklena. Do any > > ring a bell? > > > > Eve > > > > > > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:11 PM, therese schmidt <trherschas@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > >> Hi Rita, > >> i,m new here, i agree what you have Written , > >> the same happen to my Parent , we lived in > >> Lager Haid Austria, in 1953 they appellate for German Citizenship > >> the where refused > >> my Father was in the German Army , they did not go to Germany , > >> instate the came to the U S A, Illinois , of 1954 , > >> they joint the Donau Schwaben Verrein and American Aid Society , > >> it was there where the Word Schwowe, - Schaben or Donauschwaben > >> was always spoken of. > >> Therese > >> > >> On May 11, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Eve wrote: > >> > >> > Hi Rita, > >> > > >> > You know as I do too, that growing up with family with issues of anger > >> and > >> > long believed prejudices that as a child we can't begin to understand > >> how > >> > all these things came about. The thoughts of our ancestors and how they > >> > lived their lives and depending on which side of the coin they fell, > >> where > >> > their own personal sympathies laid. I'm getting confused just writing > >> this > >> > and trying to stay politically correct. > >> > > >> > The thing is.....we as posters don't necessarily agree with or even > >> > comprehend the how or why of any of it. I know there are many out here > >> on > >> > the list who have lived it first hand, I have the second hand variety - > >> > seen the anger, frustration the loss - and not a clue as to why!!!! > >> Until > >> > I found out about the DS and their journey (long before anyone thought > >> to > >> > coin the name Donauschwaben) was I able to start to make sense of what > >> was > >> > to many considered a horrible childhood for me (and my parents escaped > >> and > >> > were not in one of Tito's camps). Yes, indeed it is a difficult thing > >> to > >> > explain, but a real treasure when you do catch someone's ear and are > >> able > >> > to discuss it with the passion that I see shared here on the list. > >> > > >> > Eve > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch < > >> schiwanore@msn.com>wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi Eve, > >> >> My Mother made a personal decision not to go to Germany after the war. > >> >> She and my Oma lived in the Graz area in Austria after escaping in 1948 > >> >> and worked on local farms. My Oma was approached by some agency that > >> was > >> >> helping the refugees find places to reestablish themselves. The > >> options > >> >> were Germany, USA, or Australia. Even though the majority of my family > >> >> went to Germany, Mom refused. Said there was no way she was going > >> there > >> >> (Stubborness runs in my family... Dickschädl for those that know the > >> >> lingo). She felt Germany was the cause of all of their hardships and > >> >> heartaches... and that Germany's actions were responsible for the > >> murder of > >> >> her father.... her brother's death (at that time he was MIA).... and > >> the > >> >> loss of everything that she ever knew. She would have been about 24 > >> years > >> >> old at the time of that decision. My Oma finally gave in to her and > >> they > >> >> came to the USA. Oma would go to Germany every few years or so to > >> visit > >> >> with her brothers, sisters, and their families. Some came to visit us > >> >> occasionally. Oma really missed her immediate family. All in all, Mom > >> >> still feels that is was the right thing to do. This also makes me > >> wonder > >> >> what nationlity she really considered herself to be in 1944.... > >> especially > >> >> since she would not involve herself with the Kulturbund (German > >> Cultural > >> >> Club) that established itself in Jugoslavia after WWII and, some feel, > >> >> responsible for promoting Hitler's philosophies. She says she is > >> German or > >> >> Austrian (depending on who she is talking to). But, only because she > >> >> doesn't want to have to explain about herself and her background. She > >> was > >> >> and still is not ashamed. But, the lack of knowledge Americans have > >> about > >> >> Donauschwaben and the end of WWII, make it a difficult explanation. > >> >> Rita From Colorado, Jabuka, and Bistritz > >> >>> From: evebrown@gmail.com > >> >>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 18:35:42 -0400 > >> >>> To: danielashowley@aol.com > >> >>> CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> >>> Subject: Re: [DVHH] German-Hungarians - Nationality vs Citizenship > >> >>> > >> >>> Daniela, > >> >>> > >> >>> My mom & dad told the same story. Mom didn't feel wanted in Austria > >> - or > >> >>> like she belonged and were refused entrance into Germany in 1946 as it > >> >> was > >> >>> overcrowded and they already had some cousins that were admitted - > >> early > >> >> on > >> >>> in 45. > >> >>> > >> >>> Eve > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' > >> >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > >> > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > > > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinatorhttp://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia