Hi Joe, I guess this is for everyone everywhere. I am so SORRY, that people who were in camps everywhere for one reason or another feel or felt ashamed. All of you detainees should be PROUD! This was thru no fault of your own and happened to many people no matter what their ethnic background was or their race or whatever the reasons were. I SALUTE all of you, be PROUD THAT YOU SURVIVED!!! and SORRY for those who did not, cause that is who you are. It does not matter what your heritage is or was, embrace it . This is what makes the world what it is, like it or not! No one no matter who they are or where they came from deserve what so many had to endure. My family was very lucky to escape the terrible ordeal that so many did not. The only one that I know about is my great Aunt ANNA LEIMETTER(don't know married name) from Deustch Saint Michael. She was sent some where and we don't know where. She was also a survivor (Thank God). This why I love this site. People can say what they feel to be right and the rest of us need to respect and LEARN from what has been said, not take offense. I appreciate all the different opinions and stories and have learned so much that I would have never known about my ancestors and heritage. My grandparents with my mom came to the U.S. in 1922 so they only knew what was going on from news & letters. As I have said before I don't remember( and neither does my mom) there being very much talk about the old country, She doesn't remember anything, she was 3 when she came. So I guess what I am saying is be PROUD and not ashamed you are not the ones who did this to so many. THEY ARE THE ONE'S TO BE ASHAMED!!! So for my sake and all the others who have join this list, everyone keep the stories and info coming. Barb D -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Psotka Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 10:19 AM To: dvhh Subject: Re: [DVHH]Why our parents didn't say they were Shwovish My parents also never spoke about being Shwovish to anyone outside the family; but a large part of that was being ashamed of being imprisoned in Gakowa (my mother and I) or being sent to slave labor in the Donetsk(my father). For those of us interned, it was a very painful and shameful part of our life and we never wanted to talk about it, and hid it whenever we could, in whatever way we could. The second generation seems to think that this experience is something we wanted to discuss, but I assure we did not and it is even harder to get started with strangers. Best regards, Joe From: Diane Halas Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎30‎, ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎53‎ ‎AM To: 'John Schambre', 'Eileen Simcox' Cc: dvhh I once asked my grandma why she had said the family was German. She said. "My dear, we were all 'Germans' then." I asked her what she considered herself and she said, "Austro-Hungarian". I told my fifth grade teacher who in turn told me there was no such place as Austria-Hungary. Everyone in Grandma's nuclear family spoke more than one language. She identified their primary language as "low German" and her family was from Alsace-Lorraine and her grandmother was pure French. The family had emigrated to the Banat before there was a "Germany". There you have it. I never even learned about Schwabish until I subscribed to this site. Diane Diane Halas 239-592-9969 in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers There is a lot of truth what is said here for one reason or the other. It is quite understandable our people lost their homes because of a war they did not want. They have been tested since their days in their old homes by wars and injustices. The receives the brunt of the hatred and blame for siding with the Germans although it was not quite what some of the history tells us. Our people immigrated to Hungary, they would be occupied by Serbia and Romania after WWI. Again they were in many ways punished for just being from areas of what became Germany. They also were punished after WWII for loving their piece.   They would not be able to write about their experiences when they arrived in the USA because they could not speak. According to our standards today they were under educated, however they were the most productive farmers and skilled craftsmen. Despite of the educational shortcomings the largest percentage of out people had, we had enough highly educated scholars like Prof. Georg Wildmann who wrote everything that is to write about; according to Hans Supritz, one of the most  active Donauschwaben to whom we owe the many monuments in the death cams, such as Rudolfgnad, Gakowa and Mitrowitze. At our 50th observation of our expulsion from our homes there was only one book about our history in the English language; "In the fangs of the red dragon". Because of this I did take on myself to write a book about our history. After making countless phone call and writing letters, I decided to travel to Europe and collect material to actually write a book. But one trip was not enough and made tree trips. I took on the task translating information's from some 30 book, naturally condensed. Finally in 2003 after 9 years of work I was ready to self publish the book; "The last generation, forgotten and left to die". ISBN No: 0-9701 109-0-1. For our children to read. I also translated several manuscripts, one of which is" A People On the Danube" by Nenad Stefanovic, published in 2007 published by the University of North Dakota. Without ISBN number. Gruss Hans      On Saturday, May 3, 2014 4:49 PM, Barb D <bbd2424@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Joe, I guess this is for everyone everywhere. I am so SORRY, that people who were in camps everywhere for one reason or another feel or felt ashamed. All of you detainees should be PROUD! This was thru no fault of your own and happened to many people no matter what their ethnic background was or their race or whatever the reasons were. I SALUTE all of you, be PROUD THAT YOU SURVIVED!!! and SORRY for those who did not, cause that is who you are. It does not matter what your heritage is or was, embrace it . This is what makes the world what it is, like it or not! No one no matter who they are or where they came from deserve what so many had to endure. My family was very lucky to escape the terrible ordeal  that so many did not. The only one that I know about is my great Aunt ANNA LEIMETTER(don't know married name) from Deustch Saint Michael. She was sent some where and we don't know where. She was also a survivor (Thank God). This why I love this site. People can say what they feel to be right and the rest of us need to respect and LEARN from what has been said, not take offense. I appreciate all the different opinions and stories and have learned so much that I would have never known about my ancestors and heritage. My grandparents with my mom came to the U.S. in 1922 so they only knew what was going on from news & letters. As I have said before I don't remember( and neither does my mom) there being very much talk about the old country, She doesn't remember anything, she was 3 when she came. So I guess what I am saying is be PROUD and not ashamed you are not the ones who did this to so many. THEY ARE THE ONE'S TO BE ASHAMED!!! So for my sake and all the others who have join this list, everyone keep the stories and info coming. Barb D -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Psotka Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 10:19 AM To: dvhh Subject: Re: [DVHH]Why our parents didn't say they were Shwovish My parents also never spoke about being Shwovish to anyone outside the family; but a large part of that was being ashamed of being imprisoned in Gakowa (my mother and I) or being sent to slave labor in the Donetsk(my father).  For those of us interned, it was a very painful and shameful part of our life and we never wanted to talk about it, and hid it whenever we could, in whatever way we could. The second generation seems to think that this experience is something we wanted to discuss, but I assure we did not and it is even harder to get started with strangers. Best regards, Joe From: Diane Halas Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎30‎, ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎53‎ ‎AM To: 'John Schambre', 'Eileen Simcox' Cc: dvhh I once asked my grandma why she had said the family was German.  She said. "My dear, we were all 'Germans' then."  I asked her what she considered herself and she said, "Austro-Hungarian".  I told my fifth grade teacher who in turn told me there was no such place as Austria-Hungary. Everyone in Grandma's nuclear family spoke more than one language. She identified their primary language as "low German" and her family was from Alsace-Lorraine and her grandmother was pure French.  The family had emigrated to the Banat before there was a "Germany".  There you have it.  I never even learned about Schwabish until I subscribed to this site. Diane Diane Halas 239-592-9969 in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message