Amen Barb - Thank goodness for freedom of speech! Eve On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Barb D <bbd2424@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Joe, > I guess this is for everyone everywhere. > I am so SORRY, that people who were in camps everywhere for one reason or > another feel or felt ashamed. All of you detainees should be PROUD! This > was > thru no fault of your own and happened to many people no matter what their > ethnic background was or their race or whatever the reasons were. I SALUTE > all of you, be PROUD THAT YOU SURVIVED!!! and SORRY for those who did not, > cause that is who you are. It does not matter what your heritage is or was, > embrace it . This is what makes the world what it is, like it or not! No > one > no matter who they are or where they came from deserve what so many had to > endure. My family was very lucky to escape the terrible ordeal that so > many > did not. The only one that I know about is my great Aunt ANNA > LEIMETTER(don't know married name) from Deustch Saint Michael. She was sent > some where and we don't know where. She was also a survivor (Thank God). > This why I love this site. People can say what they feel to be right and > the > rest of us need to respect and LEARN from what has been said, not take > offense. I appreciate all the different opinions and stories and have > learned so much that I would have never known about my ancestors and > heritage. My grandparents with my mom came to the U.S. in 1922 so they only > knew what was going on from news & letters. As I have said before I don't > remember( and neither does my mom) there being very much talk about the old > country, She doesn't remember anything, she was 3 when she came. > So I guess what I am saying is be PROUD and not ashamed you are not the > ones > who did this to so many. THEY ARE THE ONE'S TO BE ASHAMED!!! > So for my sake and all the others who have join this list, everyone keep > the > stories and info coming. > Barb D > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Psotka > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 10:19 AM > To: dvhh > Subject: Re: [DVHH]Why our parents didn't say they were Shwovish > > > My parents also never spoke about being Shwovish to anyone outside the > family; > > but a large part of that was being ashamed of being imprisoned in Gakowa > (my > mother and I) > > or being sent to slave labor in the Donetsk(my father). For those of us > interned, it was a very painful and shameful part of our life and we never > wanted to talk about it, and hid it whenever we could, in whatever way we > could. > > > > > The second generation seems to think that this experience is something we > wanted to discuss, but I assure we did not and it is even harder to get > started with strangers. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > Joe > > > > > > From: Diane Halas > Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎30‎, ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎53‎ ‎AM > To: 'John Schambre', 'Eileen Simcox' > Cc: dvhh > > > > > > I once asked my grandma why she had said the family was German. She said. > "My dear, we were all 'Germans' then." I asked her what she considered > herself and she said, "Austro-Hungarian". I told my fifth grade teacher > who > in turn told me there was no such place as Austria-Hungary. Everyone in > Grandma's nuclear family spoke more than one language. She identified their > primary language as "low German" and her family was from Alsace-Lorraine > and > her grandmother was pure French. The family had emigrated to the Banat > before there was a "Germany". There you have it. I never even learned > about Schwabish until I subscribed to this site. > > Diane > > Diane Halas > 239-592-9969 > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Hi Joe, Eve, Barb, and DVHH listers, Thank you so much for sharing your diverse experiences, viewpoints, and opinions here. I too love this site for the many reasons already stated. These open and frank discussions about our shared heritage and diversity can only serve to enrich us all. Please keep sharing and the resulting dialogue open and free. Linda On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > Amen Barb - Thank goodness for freedom of speech! > > Eve > > > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Barb D <bbd2424@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Joe, > > I guess this is for everyone everywhere. > > I am so SORRY, that people who were in camps everywhere for one reason or > > another feel or felt ashamed. All of you detainees should be PROUD! This > > was > > thru no fault of your own and happened to many people no matter what > their > > ethnic background was or their race or whatever the reasons were. I > SALUTE > > all of you, be PROUD THAT YOU SURVIVED!!! and SORRY for those who did > not, > > cause that is who you are. It does not matter what your heritage is or > was, > > embrace it . This is what makes the world what it is, like it or not! No > > one > > no matter who they are or where they came from deserve what so many had > to > > endure. My family was very lucky to escape the terrible ordeal that so > > many > > did not. The only one that I know about is my great Aunt ANNA > > LEIMETTER(don't know married name) from Deustch Saint Michael. She was > sent > > some where and we don't know where. She was also a survivor (Thank God). > > This why I love this site. People can say what they feel to be right and > > the > > rest of us need to respect and LEARN from what has been said, not take > > offense. I appreciate all the different opinions and stories and have > > learned so much that I would have never known about my ancestors and > > heritage. My grandparents with my mom came to the U.S. in 1922 so they > only > > knew what was going on from news & letters. As I have said before I don't > > remember( and neither does my mom) there being very much talk about the > old > > country, She doesn't remember anything, she was 3 when she came. > > So I guess what I am saying is be PROUD and not ashamed you are not the > > ones > > who did this to so many. THEY ARE THE ONE'S TO BE ASHAMED!!! > > So for my sake and all the others who have join this list, everyone keep > > the > > stories and info coming. > > Barb D > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joseph Psotka > > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 10:19 AM > > To: dvhh > > Subject: Re: [DVHH]Why our parents didn't say they were Shwovish > > > > > > My parents also never spoke about being Shwovish to anyone outside the > > family; > > > > but a large part of that was being ashamed of being imprisoned in Gakowa > > (my > > mother and I) > > > > or being sent to slave labor in the Donetsk(my father). For those of us > > interned, it was a very painful and shameful part of our life and we > never > > wanted to talk about it, and hid it whenever we could, in whatever way we > > could. > > > > > > > > > > The second generation seems to think that this experience is something we > > wanted to discuss, but I assure we did not and it is even harder to get > > started with strangers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Diane Halas > > Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎30‎, ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎53‎ ‎AM > > To: 'John Schambre', 'Eileen Simcox' > > Cc: dvhh > > > > > > > > > > > > I once asked my grandma why she had said the family was German. She > said. > > "My dear, we were all 'Germans' then." I asked her what she considered > > herself and she said, "Austro-Hungarian". I told my fifth grade teacher > > who > > in turn told me there was no such place as Austria-Hungary. Everyone in > > Grandma's nuclear family spoke more than one language. She identified > their > > primary language as "low German" and her family was from Alsace-Lorraine > > and > > her grandmother was pure French. The family had emigrated to the Banat > > before there was a "Germany". There you have it. I never even learned > > about Schwabish until I subscribed to this site. > > > > Diane > > > > Diane Halas > > 239-592-9969 > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don,t think they felt ashamed. Why should they? No body likes to think of unpleasant experiences let alone talk about them. I know to be factual. Sent from Helga's Ipad > On May 4, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Linda Jaspersen <ljaspersen@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Joe, Eve, Barb, and DVHH listers, > > > > Thank you so much for sharing your diverse experiences, viewpoints, and > opinions here. I too love this site for the many reasons already stated. > These open and frank discussions about our shared heritage and diversity > can only serve to enrich us all. Please keep sharing and the resulting > dialogue open and free. > > > Linda > > >> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Amen Barb - Thank goodness for freedom of speech! >> >> Eve >> >> >>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Barb D <bbd2424@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Joe, >>> I guess this is for everyone everywhere. >>> I am so SORRY, that people who were in camps everywhere for one reason or >>> another feel or felt ashamed. All of you detainees should be PROUD! This >>> was >>> thru no fault of your own and happened to many people no matter what >> their >>> ethnic background was or their race or whatever the reasons were. I >> SALUTE >>> all of you, be PROUD THAT YOU SURVIVED!!! and SORRY for those who did >> not, >>> cause that is who you are. It does not matter what your heritage is or >> was, >>> embrace it . This is what makes the world what it is, like it or not! No >>> one >>> no matter who they are or where they came from deserve what so many had >> to >>> endure. My family was very lucky to escape the terrible ordeal that so >>> many >>> did not. The only one that I know about is my great Aunt ANNA >>> LEIMETTER(don't know married name) from Deustch Saint Michael. She was >> sent >>> some where and we don't know where. She was also a survivor (Thank God). >>> This why I love this site. People can say what they feel to be right and >>> the >>> rest of us need to respect and LEARN from what has been said, not take >>> offense. I appreciate all the different opinions and stories and have >>> learned so much that I would have never known about my ancestors and >>> heritage. My grandparents with my mom came to the U.S. in 1922 so they >> only >>> knew what was going on from news & letters. As I have said before I don't >>> remember( and neither does my mom) there being very much talk about the >> old >>> country, She doesn't remember anything, she was 3 when she came. >>> So I guess what I am saying is be PROUD and not ashamed you are not the >>> ones >>> who did this to so many. THEY ARE THE ONE'S TO BE ASHAMED!!! >>> So for my sake and all the others who have join this list, everyone keep >>> the >>> stories and info coming. >>> Barb D >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Joseph Psotka >>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 10:19 AM >>> To: dvhh >>> Subject: Re: [DVHH]Why our parents didn't say they were Shwovish >>> >>> >>> My parents also never spoke about being Shwovish to anyone outside the >>> family; >>> >>> but a large part of that was being ashamed of being imprisoned in Gakowa >>> (my >>> mother and I) >>> >>> or being sent to slave labor in the Donetsk(my father). For those of us >>> interned, it was a very painful and shameful part of our life and we >> never >>> wanted to talk about it, and hid it whenever we could, in whatever way we >>> could. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The second generation seems to think that this experience is something we >>> wanted to discuss, but I assure we did not and it is even harder to get >>> started with strangers. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Diane Halas >>> Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎April‎ ‎30‎, ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎53‎ ‎AM >>> To: 'John Schambre', 'Eileen Simcox' >>> Cc: dvhh >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I once asked my grandma why she had said the family was German. She >> said. >>> "My dear, we were all 'Germans' then." I asked her what she considered >>> herself and she said, "Austro-Hungarian". I told my fifth grade teacher >>> who >>> in turn told me there was no such place as Austria-Hungary. Everyone in >>> Grandma's nuclear family spoke more than one language. She identified >> their >>> primary language as "low German" and her family was from Alsace-Lorraine >>> and >>> her grandmother was pure French. The family had emigrated to the Banat >>> before there was a "Germany". There you have it. I never even learned >>> about Schwabish until I subscribed to this site. >>> >>> Diane >>> >>> Diane Halas >>> 239-592-9969 >>> >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> Syrmia Regional Coordinator >> http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message