Hi Hans, Yes I think that has a lot to do with the similarities between shwovish and Pennsylvania Dutch.. The fact that they are basically unchanged from 200 years ago.. -----Original Message----- From: "Hans Kopp" <hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com> Sent: ‎5/‎15/‎2014 11:49 AM To: "joepsotka@gmail.com" <joepsotka@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Pennsylvania Dutch and Donauschwaben Since we have Holmes county about 80 miles from here we travel to the Amish country every year. They are master furniture craftsman. My son purchased all his furniture from them. They ship them as well. In his case Cincinnati. The Amish I was told do have 4 main dialects. One of them a man from the Lake Constance region a language professor who was visiting here determined it was a Allamia-Badisch dialect after we had a conversation with a group. A carpenter at the home an flower show in Cleveland spoke to us in a very schwowisch dialect and I had to bring him an article I wrote about that part of German history. I have determined, that the dialect he spoke and our Donauschwaben dialect had many common words. After all we have to assume that their dialect and our have not changed that much over the 250 years. In other words there is a bit history of language study we can do how our ancestor may have spoken. Hans On Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:00 AM, "joepsotka@gmail.com" <joepsotka@gmail.com> wrote: For those of you who can read Shwovish, I highly recommend a site by Helen Alba. Like the Pennsylvania Dutch site it is called “von iwerdriwer” which roughly means ‘from over there” although it literally says “from across across”. Alba gives a nice cross section of Shwovish wit and humor and everyday life. http://www.lenauheim.de/vdr.html Alba’s brand of Shwovish is almost as different from my Kerneierish (Kernei Shwovish) as Pennsylvania Dutch is. In fact since my Shwenglish is closer to Pennsylvania Dutch, I can understand the Amish much more easily. Sent from Windows Mail From: Eve Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎May‎ ‎15‎, ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎28‎ ‎AM To: Lotte Devlin Cc: dvhh Lotte, I'm inclined to agree with you, but this is simply from a tour I did when we were in Hershey, Penn. The founder (Milton S. Hershey) was PD if I'm recalling correctly (Mennonite). I got quite a kick out of the info on this tour - and remember how my mom said that was the biggest deal - getting a Hershey Choc. Bar from the American Red Cross when they were refugees in Austria. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message