Rita, You wrote . . . " Rose... I think you really meant this to be a private scolding. Publically berating someone makes everyone uncomfortable." That comment made me feel uncomfortable, not Rose's. Your comment is no different than what you're accusing Rose of. And why is it okay for anyone to make any comment, as often as they like, -- except administrators? That sounds 2 sided. All this nonsense needs to stop, now. This is not what this list is all about. We don't need the strife or bad feelings. Let's get back to what we are here for. Anyone need help with research? Jody -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rita Schiwanowitsch Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 6:56 PM To: Henry Fischer; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] Shwovish, Shwobe, Shwoveh - A New Terminology? I heartily agree with your words, Henry, and fully appreciate the responsibilities of Rose's position. There was something I read at the Donauschwaben Museum in Ulm.... a quotation from Bela Bartok... that stuck me as good words to try to live by. I feel this may be the time to share these words again..... "Bei dem Bauern gibt es keine spur von grimmigen Hass gegen andere Volker und hat es nie gegeben. Sie leben friedlich nebeneinander, jeder spricht seine Sprache, halt sich an seine eigenen Gebrauche un findet es ganz naturlich, dass sein anderessprachiger Nachbar das gleiche tut..... " "Amongst the farmers, there was no need to hate people that were different, and never has been. They lived feely next to one another, each speaking their own language and seeing to their own needs. And found it very natural that their neighbors, who spoke another language, did the same." Rita > From: hjfischer@rogers.com > To: rosevetter@gmail.com; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com; > schiwanore@msn.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Shwovish, Shwobe, Shwoveh - A New Terminology? > Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 17:41:28 -0400 > > Dear Fellow Listers, > > Whether Rose's email was meant to be private or not she is fulfilling > her responsibility as part of the Editorial Committee of the DVHH > whose task is to maintain the integrity of our mandate and purpose as > it applies to our membership and postings. This is a very difficult > role to play and we owe Rose our gratitude for her conscientious > efforts in this regard on all our behalf and for the ongoing welfare and health of the DVHH. > > Henry Fischer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rita Schiwanowitsch > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 4:37 PM > To: Rose Vetter ; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Shwovish, Shwobe, Shwoveh - A New Terminology? > > Rose... I think you really meant this to be a private scolding. > Publically berating someone makes everyone uncomfortable. > > > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Rose Vetter<mailto:rosevetter@gmail.com> > Sent: ‎5/‎19/‎2014 2:15 PM > To: DVHH-L<mailto:Donauschwaben-Villages-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [DVHH] Shwovish, Shwobe, Shwoveh - A New Terminology? > > Hello Joe, > > > > I’ve been reading your recent posts with growing concern. In one of > them you went as far as congratulating one of our mail list members on > “a good fight”, along with an invitation to join you on another forum. > A remark like that is hardly in line with our policy of being kind to > each other on this mail list. > > > > I feel that your highly political and confrontational comments are in > contravention of our Mailing List Guidelines which you will find here: > > http://www.dvhh.org/community/mail-list.htm > > This forum is intended for people who want to research the ancestry, > history and heritage of our people who settled along the middle course > of the Danube; they called themselves “Schwowe” in their language or “Mundart”. > The collective term “Donauschwaben, Danube Swabian, Podunavske Švabe”, etc. > has been accepted in history books and literature in different > languages, whether you accept it or not—who are we to change it? Your > "Englishized", as you call it, version--Shwovish, Shwobe, Shwoveh--is > non-existent in any publications, and your attempt to change the > established terminology is, in my humble opinion, not acceptable. > > > > I know I’m not alone in saying that some of your comments are > inflammatory and an affront to the memory of the ancestors we hold so > dear. I’m afraid that some of your irrational comments might > discourage some of our mail list members from voicing their opinions, > or even cause them to leave this forum. Therefore, Joe, although I’ve > been hesitant about posting this message, after spending some > sleepless hours agonizing over this, I feel it my duty as a proud Schwowin or Danube Swabian, to get this off my chest. > > > > Rose Vetter, > > Editorial Committee > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message