Hi Carol, I found some information from the Blumenthal parish registers about the ancestors you mentioned.  See below. From: Carol Kalar <carolkalar@hotmail.com> > I am still looking for members of my Paternal side of my family.  > My Great-grandfather Johann Seiler was born on 24 June 1863 in > Blumenthal=2C Banat & my Great-grandmother Elizabeth Scheffler > Seiler was born 25 august 1863 In Blumenthal=2C Banat.  My other > Great-grand-father Joseph Anton was born 26 January 1875 in > Heilfelt=2C Bukovina and my Great-grand-mother Regina Schaffer > Anton was born 20 July 1880 in Bukovina.  My great-grandfather's > father was also Johann Seiler he was born in 1843 in Blumenthal > & my great-grandmother Anna Friedman Krawad Seiler was born in > 1845 in Blumenthal.  All of my grandparents immigrated to the > United States and settled in North Dakota.  They settled down > in North Dakota and raised their families there=2C they all died > in North Dakota.  I am on Roots Web as well as Ancestry.com=2C > I'm just having a hard time finding the parents of these great- > grandparents.  Any help of information on where I should look > next will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks so much for your > help.  Carol Seiler Kalar Salt Lake City=2C Utah On July 7, 1885: Janos Seiler, son of Janos Seiler and Anna Gravath, age 22, of Blumenthal house 212 married Erzsebet Schöfler, dau of Henrik Schöfler and Zsuzsanna Friedmann, age 19, of Blumenthal house 140 On July 24, 1863 (not June 24) birth of Joannes, son of Joannes Szeiler, agricola [=farmer], and Anna Gravath at Blumenthal house 212 On the same page, I noticed a birth record on 14 Aug 1863 for Magdalena, illegitimate dau of Susanna Friedmann, unmarried, of Blumenthal house 226.  It looks like a note was added later that Henricus Schaefler was the father (with a phrase in latin that is hard to read); I'm not sure if that means the child was adopted or that Henricus acknowledged being the father. On Oct 22, 1881 death of Janos Seiler, földmívelő, husband of Anna Gravath of Blumenthal house 212, age 43.  cause of death: Tüdőgümösödés? [Tüdő = lung] On 26 Aug 1865 (not 1863), birth of Elisabetha, dau of Henricus Schaefler, agricola, and Susanna Fredmann of Blumenthal house 142. On 6 Aug 1864, Henricus, son of Antonius Schaefler and Magdalena Lenhardt, agricola, age 24 of Blumenthal married Susanna, dau of Joannes Friedmann and Susanna Fander, agricola, age 21 of Blumenthal On Feb 9, 1858 Joannes Szeiler, son of Joannes Szeiler and Margaretha Glotzbier, agricola, age 24 of Blumenthal married Anna Gravath, dau of Petrus Gravath and Elisabeth Pfeiffer?, agricola, age 17 of Blumenthal This last record and earlier parish records for Blumenthal back to 1771 (when the parish was founded) are all available on microfilm from the family history library in Salt Lake City.  I obtained the later parish records from John Schambre. Regards, Eric Ruppert