Well learn something new every day - I had never heard of it being Austro - Hungary again in 42. Was it all parts of former Yugoslavia or just some of it? Eve On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Helga Kiely <kandhkiely@rogers.com> wrote: > > > This email was too funny. The part where one is asked what nationality > they > are. Been there, done that and answered in the same manner. It is all to > familiar. Mine is a little more complicated because I had to add more to > it. I was born in Austria Hungary when it was regained by Germany and > shortly after that went back to Yugoslavia and to-day Serbia. So I also > have to mention Yes, I was born in Yugoslavia, but it was Austria Hungry in > 1942 and of course now it is Serbia. But I was born as a British Subject > which is now called Canadian Citizenship. If one is born to parents that > held this status on their passport, the child automatically of the same. > > Helga. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Bautz McKenna" <famline@embarqmail.com> > To: <terryb@tcn.net>; "DVHH Mail List" < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "Helga Kiely" <kandhkiely@rogers.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 4:45 PM > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Strudel / Schwob or Schwäbele > > > love the cats born in the barn analogy.....perfect > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <terryb@tcn.net> > To: "DVHH Mail List" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "Helga Kiely" <kandhkiely@rogers.com> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 6:19 PM > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Strudel / Schwob or Schwäbele > > > > What a small world! I grew up in Winnipeg ....I don't recall a > > 'Donauschwab Club' per se but as a family we attended weddings etc. > > at St. Steven's Hall on Main street which I always thought was a > > Hungarian Club and on special days we attended St Joseph's Church > > (german mass) in the North end which was right across the city for > > us. St Boniface Cathedral was our parish because St Boniface is where > > we lived. > > > > I left Wpg for Toronto in 1966 and my parents and the rest of the > > family all moved to BC in 1968. > > > > To add more to this saga. Two of my SIL were also 'german' .. Eva > > from Banat Hungary ... Resi from Karikovka in Batschka ..... needless > > to say there was much conversation about all this after my epiphany at > > 40. > > > > And more ... we immigrated here in '38 just before the war .... my > > uncle came in '27 .. he established himself as Hungarian ... Because > > that's what his papers showed and when we landed, immigration wanted > > to label us as Romanian, again according to papers, (tho we siblings > > and our parents were born in the same village our parents passport > > showed country of birth as Hungary, while ours state Romania) but my > > mother balked at that .... and then when we attended school at the > > height of the war, with only 3 German families in the school, it > > became difficult, so at my older brother's insistance and my mother's > > displeasure we children became Hungarian, for our own safety. Almost > > every one of my classmates had someone in their family fighting 'the > > germans'. > > > > This all boils down to ... every Donauschwab has a story.... or even > > MANY stories. > > > > How many of you have experienced this while mingling at a get together/ > > party etc. LOL. > > > > They: So, what are you? > > Me: German. > > They: What part of Germany? > > Me: Not Germany ... well Im not really German .. > > They: No? Then what are you? > > Me: Well I am German ... but I'm what we are referred to as > > Volksduetsch or Donauschwabs. > > They: Dunno that ... Well, where were you born? > > Me: In Romania. > > They: So you're Romanian. > > Me: Noooo I was born in the same house and village as my parents but > > they were born in Hungary. > > I am still German .... my mother explained it to me this way ... if > > kittens are born in the stable they will always be kittens/cats, not > > cows or horses. > > > > At this point I usually run out of any intelligent explanations. > > > > Love you all and love this site. > > Terry > > > > P.S. Can someone tell me how to make that delicious caisse strudel > > with phylo pastry ... never mind the stretched pastry... I'm too old > > for all that work ... I love lazy shortcuts. > > > > 'On 21-Apr-14, at 11:26 AM, Helga Kiely wrote: > > > > It's funny that Terry did not know she was a Donauschwab but not > > unusual. When my new neighbour moved into our townhouse complex she > > told us that she came to Toronto from Winnipeg about 20 years ago and > > she was German on her mother's side and German from Yugoslavia on her > > father's side. I said oh you mean you are a Donauschwab. She looked > > at me strangely and asked what a Donauschwab was. She too had never > > heard of of this. I was floored! Do they not have a Donauschwab club > > in Winnipeg? > > > > Helga Kiely > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <terryb@tcn.net> > > To: "DVHH Mail List" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 10:58 AM > > Subject: [DVHH] Strudel > > > > > >> Thank you June ... I never knew that Linzerteig was the same ... happy > >> to hear that. I never heard Linzerteig mentioned in my home, and > >> once, my Budapest Hungarian friend wanted to share that with me and I > >> kept insisting it was Schpitzbuben. I also have a German friend from > >> Gengenbusch (near Freiberg) ... it is interesting but comical how a > >> simple conversation from our childhoods can be so far apart in culture > >> and language ... my Hungarian friend understands my language and > >> customs better than my German friend. We three, became friends here > >> in Toronto, and I immediatly identified with them, but they didn't > >> with me ... which was strange for me. Until I sorted it all out, it > >> unnerved me at times, even tho we are the closest of friends, sharing > >> a deep Catholic faith. > >> > >> Though both my parents were fluent in Hungarian when required, we the > >> children were not. My first language was German as in Schwobisch. I > >> finally realized my true ethnicity when I was 40 yrs old ... I am now > >> 79. The word Donauschwab was never mentioned in my home that I can > >> recall, although Banat was ... which of course was not on any > >> coventional map. > >> > >> I love your website and I thank you for that also. > >> > >> Best regards to you too, > >> Terry > >> > >> On 19-Apr-14, at 5:08 PM, June Meyer wrote: > >> > >> > >> Terry, the Shpitzbuben teig is also the Hungarian LINZERTEIG COOKIE > >> (Linz dough) The cookie can be made with cookie cutter or made in a > >> shallow pan topped with crisscrossed lattice dough. See my family pre > >> World War One recipes in my cookbook. It is listed under Christmas > >> Cookie, and the LEKVAR (prune or apricot) recipe is listed in Filling > >> for Kipfels and Cookies. > >> (website has free recipes) Enjoy!! > >> > >> > >> Regards, June Meyer > >> junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> On Apr 19, 2014, at 1:21 PM, terryb@tcn.net wrote: > >> > >>> Does anyone have a recipe for 'schpitzbuben teig'. It has a bottom > >>> pastry and then a spread of lekwahr or jam over that with th top > >>> layer > >>> of pastry in criss cross latice. My mother baked it in a large > >>> rectangular pan. I cannot find it in my mother's recipes. She knew > >>> the > >>> recipe so well, I assume she just never felt it was necessary to > >>> record. > >>> > >>> Favorites of mine were saltz kippfel. apfel bite, caisse kuchen, > >>> krammel pogatschen and strudel. I always liked the cheese strudel > >>> more > >>> than the apple. > >>> > >>> I just love when the food recipes come around ... usually at > >>> Eastertime. It seems there usually was a different kind of baking > >>> prior to Easter. At Christmas there were more bars, squares and > >>> crescents at our house. Even candies which were wrapped and decorated > >>> the tree. > >>> > >>> Thank you all for the work and interest in this site. A Happy Easter/ > >>> Frolich Ostern to All. > >>> > >>> Terry (Miller) Blanchette > >>> Toronto > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com > >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > >> the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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Hi Eve: Just replied to Anne Dreer and am not sure that it went to the list. However, I had been told in the past that it was recaptured and turned over to Hungary again. I think my mother told me that and should she not know as she lived there during that time. When I met Vesna Ibrahimovic in Sombor 2 years, she told me that same thing. ----- Original Message ----- From: Eve To: Helga Kiely Cc: Linda Bautz McKenna ; Terry Brown ; DVHH Mail List Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Strudel / Schwob or Schwäbele Well learn something new every day - I had never heard of it being Austro - Hungary again in 42. Was it all parts of former Yugoslavia or just some of it? Eve On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Helga Kiely <kandhkiely@rogers.com> wrote: This email was too funny. The part where one is asked what nationality they are. Been there, done that and answered in the same manner. It is all to familiar. Mine is a little more complicated because I had to add more to it. I was born in Austria Hungary when it was regained by Germany and shortly after that went back to Yugoslavia and to-day Serbia. So I also have to mention Yes, I was born in Yugoslavia, but it was Austria Hungry in 1942 and of course now it is Serbia. But I was born as a British Subject which is now called Canadian Citizenship. If one is born to parents that held this status on their passport, the child automatically of the same. Helga. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Bautz McKenna" <famline@embarqmail.com> To: <terryb@tcn.net>; "DVHH Mail List" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Helga Kiely" <kandhkiely@rogers.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Strudel / Schwob or Schwäbele love the cats born in the barn analogy.....perfect ----- Original Message ----- From: <terryb@tcn.net> To: "DVHH Mail List" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Helga Kiely" <kandhkiely@rogers.com> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Strudel / Schwob or Schwäbele > What a small world! I grew up in Winnipeg ....I don't recall a > 'Donauschwab Club' per se but as a family we attended weddings etc. > at St. Steven's Hall on Main street which I always thought was a > Hungarian Club and on special days we attended St Joseph's Church > (german mass) in the North end which was right across the city for > us. St Boniface Cathedral was our parish because St Boniface is where > we lived. > > I left Wpg for Toronto in 1966 and my parents and the rest of the > family all moved to BC in 1968. > > To add more to this saga. Two of my SIL were also 'german' .. Eva > from Banat Hungary ... Resi from Karikovka in Batschka ..... needless > to say there was much conversation about all this after my epiphany at > 40. > > And more ... we immigrated here in '38 just before the war .... my > uncle came in '27 .. he established himself as Hungarian ... Because > that's what his papers showed and when we landed, immigration wanted > to label us as Romanian, again according to papers, (tho we siblings > and our parents were born in the same village our parents passport > showed country of birth as Hungary, while ours state Romania) but my > mother balked at that .... and then when we attended school at the > height of the war, with only 3 German families in the school, it > became difficult, so at my older brother's insistance and my mother's > displeasure we children became Hungarian, for our own safety. Almost > every one of my classmates had someone in their family fighting 'the > germans'. > > This all boils down to ... every Donauschwab has a story.... or even > MANY stories. > > How many of you have experienced this while mingling at a get together/ > party etc. LOL. > > They: So, what are you? > Me: German. > They: What part of Germany? > Me: Not Germany ... well Im not really German .. > They: No? Then what are you? > Me: Well I am German ... but I'm what we are referred to as > Volksduetsch or Donauschwabs. > They: Dunno that ... Well, where were you born? > Me: In Romania. > They: So you're Romanian. > Me: Noooo I was born in the same house and village as my parents but > they were born in Hungary. > I am still German .... my mother explained it to me this way ... if > kittens are born in the stable they will always be kittens/cats, not > cows or horses. > > At this point I usually run out of any intelligent explanations. > > Love you all and love this site. > Terry > > P.S. Can someone tell me how to make that delicious caisse strudel > with phylo pastry ... never mind the stretched pastry... I'm too old > for all that work ... I love lazy shortcuts. > > 'On 21-Apr-14, at 11:26 AM, Helga Kiely wrote: > > It's funny that Terry did not know she was a Donauschwab but not > unusual. When my new neighbour moved into our townhouse complex she > told us that she came to Toronto from Winnipeg about 20 years ago and > she was German on her mother's side and German from Yugoslavia on her > father's side. I said oh you mean you are a Donauschwab. She looked > at me strangely and asked what a Donauschwab was. She too had never > heard of of this. I was floored! Do they not have a Donauschwab club > in Winnipeg? > > Helga Kiely > ----- Original Message ----- From: <terryb@tcn.net> > To: "DVHH Mail List" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 10:58 AM > Subject: [DVHH] Strudel > > >> Thank you June ... I never knew that Linzerteig was the same ... happy >> to hear that. I never heard Linzerteig mentioned in my home, and >> once, my Budapest Hungarian friend wanted to share that with me and I >> kept insisting it was Schpitzbuben. I also have a German friend from >> Gengenbusch (near Freiberg) ... it is interesting but comical how a >> simple conversation from our childhoods can be so far apart in culture >> and language ... my Hungarian friend understands my language and >> customs better than my German friend. We three, became friends here >> in Toronto, and I immediatly identified with them, but they didn't >> with me ... which was strange for me. Until I sorted it all out, it >> unnerved me at times, even tho we are the closest of friends, sharing >> a deep Catholic faith. >> >> Though both my parents were fluent in Hungarian when required, we the >> children were not. My first language was German as in Schwobisch. I >> finally realized my true ethnicity when I was 40 yrs old ... I am now >> 79. The word Donauschwab was never mentioned in my home that I can >> recall, although Banat was ... which of course was not on any >> coventional map. >> >> I love your website and I thank you for that also. >> >> Best regards to you too, >> Terry >> >> On 19-Apr-14, at 5:08 PM, June Meyer wrote: >> >> >> Terry, the Shpitzbuben teig is also the Hungarian LINZERTEIG COOKIE >> (Linz dough) The cookie can be made with cookie cutter or made in a >> shallow pan topped with crisscrossed lattice dough. See my family pre >> World War One recipes in my cookbook. It is listed under Christmas >> Cookie, and the LEKVAR (prune or apricot) recipe is listed in Filling >> for Kipfels and Cookies. >> (website has free recipes) Enjoy!! >> >> >> Regards, June Meyer >> junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com >> >> >> On Apr 19, 2014, at 1:21 PM, terryb@tcn.net wrote: >> >>> Does anyone have a recipe for 'schpitzbuben teig'. It has a bottom >>> pastry and then a spread of lekwahr or jam over that with th top >>> layer >>> of pastry in criss cross latice. My mother baked it in a large >>> rectangular pan. I cannot find it in my mother's recipes. She knew >>> the >>> recipe so well, I assume she just never felt it was necessary to >>> record. >>> >>> Favorites of mine were saltz kippfel. apfel bite, caisse kuchen, >>> krammel pogatschen and strudel. I always liked the cheese strudel >>> more >>> than the apple. >>> >>> I just love when the food recipes come around ... usually at >>> Eastertime. It seems there usually was a different kind of baking >>> prior to Easter. At Christmas there were more bars, squares and >>> crescents at our house. Even candies which were wrapped and decorated >>> the tree. >>> >>> Thank you all for the work and interest in this site. A Happy Easter/ >>> Frolich Ostern to All. >>> >>> Terry (Miller) Blanchette >>> Toronto >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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