England was invaded by the french Duke William II of Normandy (William the Conqueror) at the Battle of Hastings in 1066, hence the french names cropping up in Britain from then onwards! Diana -----Original Message----- From: Hans Kopp Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 5:42 PM To: John Schambre ; Eileen Simcox Cc: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] History of Germany - and DNA results Hi John & Eileen Your DNA is quite different as it seems to be of recent times meaning from the last 10,000 years or since the ice time. I am quite stunned about the two different DNA's between you and Dan. The question is now why? Gruss Hans On Sunday, April 27, 2014 4:52 PM, John Schambre <jfschambre@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Eileen: Found your DNA story interesting as mine showed up as a big surprise too. My grandparents came to the US in 1914 from Wiesenhaid and they always told me 'we are German' period! I never heard of anything about ancestors in France, etc. But when I did my DNA the real surprise came: It shows that I am: 1/3 British Isles, 1/3 Northern European and 1/3 Southern European - which, according to Ancestry.com info means Italy, Spain, Portugal, etc. I didn't believe it either, so I had my my aunt and my sister take the tests too - their results came out very similar to mine, except for the Southern European. So, I had my mother do her DNA. Her father was Hungarian from the start - so I thought, but he had quite dark skin and now that I know there were all sorts of people living in Hungary in the 1800's I suspect my maternal grandfather had either Italian, Greek or possibly even Turkish blood in him and I'm nearly certain that is where my Southern European roots come from. Now, the British Isles really stumped me until a research told me that the name Chambre is very common in Ireland and england as far back as the 1300's!! I still have not confirmed that I had relatives from that area but I'm looking into it and, in fact, on Ancestry.com I was researching English records and hit upon a Chambre from the mid-late 1400's who was named as primary physician to King Kenry the 8th!! I laughed, thinking that I might have had a famous relaltive -- but that is going WAY back in time and I'll need a lot more than one document to make me believe he is of my family. So, especially if you are from the Alsace-Lorraine area, you may indeed have British blood in your line since I was advised that many French lived in Ireland and England back in those days. Oh, if only we could go back in time just to look and see for ourselves where we came from :-)) Don't worry too much though - at least for me I find the different DNA readings to be interesting but in my mind and heart I still believe my Grandfather: We are German! Period! :-)) All the best in your research. John John F. Schambre San Francisco, CA On Apr 27, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Eileen Simcox <easimcox@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I find the conversation regarding the history fascinating. I joined DVHH > several years ago, but I thought it was a yearly subscription? I've never > gotten a yearly notice to "re-up my membership"? So, I've felt guilty > about > posting in the emails, as if I am eavesdropping? I would be happy to pay > an > annual fee, if that is what is required . . . > > Many of you found my paternal line in the Familienbuch Kernei in der > Batschka (which I now own also). In my maternal line, three of my four > grandmothers are descended from the Luther line, also German. > > I recently had my DNA tested from ancestry.com and my results which should > have been "heavily German" were: Great Britain 72%, Italy/Greece 9%, > Europe > West 9%, Trace Regions 14%. I was so upset at the results! I am German!!! > I > am trying to find a way to either justify the results or negate them . . . > I recently heard a story on NPR from a black man whose DNA indicated that > he had 0% African. Has anyone else had this experience with DNA testing? > > Also, I am grateful for all of the recipes. My grandmother was a fantastic > cook and I so regret not learning the family recipes from her. I find the > recipes talked about here are what I remember eating at her house. I > especially regret not learning how to pull the strudel dough for poppy > seed > strudel! :( > > Thank you, > Eileen Gauder Simcox > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message