Hello my friends, I am looking for a bit of help. I have tracked my 4great grandmother to Marienfeld. Her name is Anna Maria SCHÖN born 8 Jan 1774 in Marienfeld. Her parents names were Johann SCHÖN and Magdalena LOHMüLLER. If there is anything in the Marienfeld book on either family, I would be thankful if you would share it with me. Also I have that her husband, Paul MARX, was born in Klein-Lüttich, Lothringen. Does anyone have an idea of where this might be? Thank you, Peggy
Hi Peggy: I don't know anything about Marienfeld but I do know that Lothringen is the name given to the area in Alsace-Lorraine France where many 'german speaking' people lived and eventually migrated to the Banat. I found my family there too! I'm sure you will hear from other regarding marienfeld as it appears there are quite a few listers who are familiar with that town. Best of luck! John F. Schambre San Francisco, CA On Apr 26, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Peggy <milpegg@centurytel.net> wrote: > Hello my friends, > I am looking for a bit of help. > I have tracked my 4great grandmother to Marienfeld. Her name is Anna > Maria SCHÖN born 8 Jan 1774 in Marienfeld. Her parents names were Johann > SCHÖN and Magdalena LOHMüLLER. > If there is anything in the Marienfeld book on either family, I would be > thankful if you would share it with me. > > Also I have that her husband, Paul MARX, was born in Klein-Lüttich, > Lothringen. Does anyone have an idea of where this might be? > > Thank you, > Peggy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
If I may add a precision. I was born in Metz, Departement of Moselle, Lorraine Region (Lothringen, Mosel in German). This region, let's say, is part of France since the end of WWII, but was once an independent Duchy. It was much bigger in size at the time of the 3 grandsons of Karl the Great (Charlemagne - around 840 and even after for some centuries), King of the Franks (germanic tribe). After the death of Louis the son of Karl the Great, his empire was divided into three and given to his 3 sons. Lorraine/Lothringer was given to Lothar or Lothaire in French (that's where the name of the region comes from): see Wiki for more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorraine_(region). The Land of Saar (German Saarland - French la Sarre), used to be part of Lorraine for a short period only, but this is not what is called the German Lorraine (Deutsch Lothringen). It is only the Departement of Moselle that was always called the German Lorraine. This is one of the 4 departements that compose the Region of Lorraine. Alsace is a different region (given to Louis the German, brother of Lothar), is even more germanic (Alemanni). You will find very interesting facts reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace. In 1940, the Departement of Moselle and the Region of Alsace were considered German de facto. After 1945, these two returned to France. In regards to Alsace-Lorraine (Elsass-Lothringen in German) - this is also a short-lived expression. It lasted only as long as the Prussians controlled the area (1870-1918), although it would be more accurate to say Alsace-Moselle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace-Lorraine. So if anyone of you thinks that his ancestors could have come from Lorraine, they may indeed have spoken either French or German, whereas for Alsace, it is more likely they have spoken a german dialekt (close enough, in some villages, to the Schwowisch dialekt). I hope this has helped clarify some misunderstandings. Best regards to all the group. Tina Michel, Montreal ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schambre" <jfschambre@comcast.net> To: "Peggy" <milpegg@centurytel.net> Cc: "DVHH Mail List" <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Marienfeld look-up please Hi Peggy: I don't know anything about Marienfeld but I do know that Lothringen is the name given to the area in Alsace-Lorraine France where many 'german speaking' people lived and eventually migrated to the Banat. I found my family there too! I'm sure you will hear from other regarding marienfeld as it appears there are quite a few listers who are familiar with that town. Best of luck! John F. Schambre San Francisco, CA On Apr 26, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Peggy <milpegg@centurytel.net> wrote: > Hello my friends, > I am looking for a bit of help. > I have tracked my 4great grandmother to Marienfeld. Her name is Anna > Maria SCHÖN born 8 Jan 1774 in Marienfeld. Her parents names were Johann > SCHÖN and Magdalena LOHMüLLER. > If there is anything in the Marienfeld book on either family, I would be > thankful if you would share it with me. > > Also I have that her husband, Paul MARX, was born in Klein-Lüttich, > Lothringen. Does anyone have an idea of where this might be? > > Thank you, > Peggy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 2013.0.3469 / Base de données virale: 3722/7399 - Date: 26/04/2014
Peggy, Here is the Wiki page for Lüttich (German) ; Liège (French Belgium): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li%C3%A8ge Bonsoir. Tina Michel, Montreal, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy" <milpegg@centurytel.net> To: "DVHH Mail List" <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:59 PM Subject: [DVHH] Marienfeld look-up please Hello my friends, I am looking for a bit of help. I have tracked my 4great grandmother to Marienfeld. Her name is Anna Maria SCHÖN born 8 Jan 1774 in Marienfeld. Her parents names were Johann SCHÖN and Magdalena LOHMüLLER. If there is anything in the Marienfeld book on either family, I would be thankful if you would share it with me. Also I have that her husband, Paul MARX, was born in Klein-Lüttich, Lothringen. Does anyone have an idea of where this might be? Thank you, Peggy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 2013.0.3469 / Base de données virale: 3722/7399 - Date: 26/04/2014