Hi Eileen, Your results can also vary depending on how it's analyzed. Here are my origins using MDLP K=12 Oracle: *#**Population**Percent* 1 Celto_Germanic 34.6% 2 East_European 23.53% 3 Iberian 12.48% 4 Paleo_Mediterranean 12.16% 5 Balto_Finnic 5.99% 6 Caucasian 3.58% 7 Paleo_North_European 2.15% 8 Volga_Uralic 2.01% 9 Uralic_Permic 1.92% 10 South_Central_Asian 1.06% 11 Paleo_Balkanic 0.52% Results are not surprising. Here's another one using Eurogenes K12: Population North Sea 32.59% Western European 27.45% South Baltic 16.33% Mediterranean 9.13% Volga-Ural 8.31% Caucasus 3.60% South Asian 2.15% North Amerindian + Arctic 0.44% I guess the only surprise there is North Amerindian + Arctic but I suppose my far distant ancestors moved around! One thing you have to understand is that the way we view the world's current geographical borders is very recent history compared to how long humans have populated the planet. Another thing is there are many different DNA analytical tools out there and you need to do your research or at least ask for help from somebody with more knowledge to get you started. I went with the Ancestry.com deal for $99 and then uploaded my DNA data to GedMatch.com. Eventually I want to have a more advanced DNA test done but for now this is very interesting and I'm still learning as I go. Dan Larson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Simcox" <easimcox@gmail.com> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:11 PM Subject: [DVHH] History of Germany >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I find the conversation regarding the history fascinating. I joined DVHH >> several years ago, but I thought it was a yearly subscription? I've never >> gotten a yearly notice to "re-up my membership"? So, I've felt guilty >> about >> posting in the emails, as if I am eavesdropping? I would be happy to pay >> an >> annual fee, if that is what is required . . . >> >> Many of you found my paternal line in the Familienbuch Kernei in der >> Batschka (which I now own also). In my maternal line, three of my four >> grandmothers are descended from the Luther line, also German. >> >> I recently had my DNA tested from ancestry.com and my results which should >> have been "heavily German" were: Great Britain 72%, Italy/Greece 9%, >> Europe >> West 9%, Trace Regions 14%. I was so upset at the results! I am German!!! >> I >> am trying to find a way to either justify the results or negate them . . . >> I recently heard a story on NPR from a black man whose DNA indicated that >> he had 0% African. Has anyone else had this experience with DNA testing? >> >> Also, I am grateful for all of the recipes. My grandmother was a fantastic >> cook and I so regret not learning the family recipes from her. I find the >> recipes talked about here are what I remember eating at her house. I >> especially regret not learning how to pull the strudel dough for poppy >> seed >> strudel! :( >> >> Thank you, >> Eileen Gauder Simcox >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Listers Again we have seen that a DNA test is vague. Dan Larson just had one made and it is a prove of it, although it gives specific percentages. Lets look at this and analyze it. The last ice age was 10,000 years ago and prior to this 150,000 years ago. If the northern hemisphere was covered with ice over these periods, we know that all northern European had to come from the south. We must assume it was a mixer which thoroughly mixt our DNA back and forth and around. Therefore it really is a fact we know from the history of the human race.   I agree it may be quite interesting, but Dan's result although it gives specific percentages it is not specific enough for recent times. Lets say 10,000 years ago. We know that most of our ancestor came from Asia minor, Persia and India. From where they moved down the rivers to the Black and Caspian See and from there moved up the revers. We often refer to us as Indo-Germanic. Others came from the route of the Greece, Italy, Spain. Or came across from the Mediterranean Zee from Africa. Just a thought. Hans On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:31 AM, Dan Larson <schwob@earthlink.net> wrote: Hi Eileen, Your results can also vary depending on how it's analyzed. Here are my origins using MDLP K=12 Oracle: *#**Population**Percent* 1 Celto_Germanic 34.6% 2 East_European 23.53% 3 Iberian 12.48% 4 Paleo_Mediterranean 12.16% 5 Balto_Finnic 5.99% 6 Caucasian 3.58% 7 Paleo_North_European 2.15% 8 Volga_Uralic 2.01% 9 Uralic_Permic 1.92% 10 South_Central_Asian 1.06% 11 Paleo_Balkanic 0.52% Results are not surprising. Here's another one using Eurogenes K12: Population North Sea 32.59% Western European 27.45% South Baltic 16.33% Mediterranean 9.13% Volga-Ural 8.31% Caucasus 3.60% South Asian 2.15% North Amerindian + Arctic 0.44% I guess the only surprise there is North Amerindian + Arctic but I suppose my far distant ancestors moved around! One thing you have to understand is that the way we view the world's current geographical borders is very recent history compared to how long humans have populated the planet. Another thing is there are many different DNA analytical tools out there and you need to do your research or at least ask for help from somebody with more knowledge to get you started. I went with the Ancestry.com deal for $99 and then uploaded my DNA data to GedMatch.com. Eventually I want to have a more advanced DNA test done but for now this is very interesting and I'm still learning as I go. Dan Larson   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen Simcox" <easimcox@gmail.com> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:11 PM Subject: [DVHH] History of Germany >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I find the conversation regarding the history fascinating. I joined DVHH >> several years ago, but I thought it was a yearly subscription? I've never >> gotten a yearly notice to "re-up my membership"? So, I've felt guilty >> about >> posting in the emails, as if I am eavesdropping? I would be happy to pay >> an >> annual fee, if that is what is required . . . >> >> Many of you found my paternal line in the Familienbuch Kernei in der >> Batschka (which I now own also). In my maternal line, three of my four >> grandmothers are descended from the Luther line, also German. >> >> I recently had my DNA tested from ancestry.com and my results which should >> have been "heavily German" were: Great Britain 72%, Italy/Greece 9%, >> Europe >> West 9%, Trace Regions 14%. I was so upset at the results! I am German!!! >> I >> am trying to find a way to either justify the results or negate them . . . >> I recently heard a story on NPR from a black man whose DNA indicated that >> he had 0% African. Has anyone else had this experience with DNA testing? >> >> Also, I am grateful for all of the recipes. My grandmother was a fantastic >> cook and I so regret not learning the family recipes from her. I find the >> recipes talked about here are what I remember eating at her house. I >> especially regret not learning how to pull the strudel dough for poppy >> seed >> strudel! :( >> >> Thank you, >> Eileen Gauder Simcox >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message