Hey everyone, Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed frustration, swearing or otherwise. Any memories out there? Regards, Lori Straus Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts / Memoir (519) 503-7098 Skype: lori.straus www.loristraus.com Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member

Hi Lori, That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and not necessarily in german. Brigitte Zirger -----Original Message----- From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? Hey everyone, Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed frustration, swearing or otherwise. Any memories out there? Regards, Lori Straus Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts / Memoir (519) 503-7098 Skype: lori.straus www.loristraus.com Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Lori, My family lived in North Dakota, so this may be a Dakota thing, but Mom was the only one I have ever heard say "Ohhh Isschh". Well, I also remember the police woman in "Fargo" said it! Probably not a Donauschwaben thing. My German father-in-law often said, "Sacrement noch a (ein) mal"! and "Pfeif und Honig" and "Maria und Josef"! Kelly ________________________________ From: BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:59 PM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? Hi Lori, That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and not necessarily in german. Brigitte Zirger -----Original Message----- From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? Hey everyone, Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed frustration, swearing or otherwise. Any memories out there? 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I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - it was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom German's didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of what the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. Eve On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > Hi Lori, > > That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and > not necessarily in german. > > Brigitte Zirger > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > > Hey everyone, > > > > Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) > What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes > Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that > right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed > frustration, swearing or otherwise. > > > > Any memories out there? > > > > Regards, > > > > Lori Straus > > Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts > / Memoir > (519) 503-7098 > Skype: lori.straus > www.loristraus.com > > > > Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > > Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i won’t repeat here. ;-). Please forgive my spelling errors. Rita Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - it > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom German's > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of what > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > Eve > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Lori, >> >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and >> not necessarily in german. >> >> Brigitte Zirger >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> >> Hey everyone, >> >> >> >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> >> >> >> Any memories out there? >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Lori Straus >> >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts >> / Memoir >> (519) 503-7098 >> Skype: lori.straus >> www.loristraus.com >> >> >> >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

It is true that when it comes to swearing, the Hungarians are world champions. In a single expression they could include the other person's mother, an animal, and God. The Rumanians would get the silver medal in swearing. So it was common for our Swabians to borrow some of these choice expressions when they got really mad. We children also picked up some Russian swearwords [from soldiers of the 'liberating' Red Army], but to Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian I was not exposed. Swabian expressions would be more like "verdammt!" [~ damnation] or Gottverdammt, sometimes followed by the name of and animal ["verdammter Hund!"] They would typically express frustration. A person could be called "Du Trottel" [you fool], "Du Idiot" or "Du Scheißkerl" [one online dictionary translates this as "you bastard" another as "you motherf--cker"]. Pretty bad, eh? Nick -----Original Message----- From: Rita Schiwanowitsch [mailto:schiwanore@msn.com] Sent: March 3, 2019 1:51 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i won’t repeat here. ;-). Please forgive my spelling errors. Rita Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - it > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom German's > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of what > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > Eve > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Lori, >> >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and >> not necessarily in german. >> >> Brigitte Zirger >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> >> Hey everyone, >> >> >> >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> >> >> >> Any memories out there? >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Lori Straus >> >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts >> / Memoir >> (519) 503-7098 >> Skype: lori.straus >> www.loristraus.com >> >> >> >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil get him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering one particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." Rose On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com wrote: > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i > won’t repeat here. ;-). > Please forgive my spelling errors. > > Rita > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - > it > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > German's > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of > what > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > > > Eve > > > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Lori, > >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and > >> not necessarily in german. > >> > >> Brigitte Zirger > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > >> > >> Hey everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got > that > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > >> > >> > >> > >> Any memories out there? > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> Lori Straus > >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing > Arts > >> / Memoir > >> (519) 503-7098 > >> Skype: lori.straus > >> www.loristraus.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

My understanding is that most Serbian swear words were aimed at ones mother. I've been told but def. not sure that Serbian and Russian are close as is Croatian. I only know how to count tell a little joke (which translates to: 1, 2, 3 your a Jacka..) which I only recently found out the last word wasn't "monkey" as I had thought and how to swear with the best of them apparently. So I am def. not an expert. Eve On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:20 PM Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or > frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as > "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still > remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or > frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, > "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong > emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). > > Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil get > him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. > Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in > a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering one > particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later > about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." > > Rose > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com > wrote: > > > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or > > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i > > won’t repeat here. ;-). > > Please forgive my spelling errors. > > > > Rita > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles > - > > it > > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > > German's > > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of > > what > > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing > when I > > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, > I > > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > > > > > Eve > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Lori, > > >> > > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, > and > > >> not necessarily in german. > > >> > > >> Brigitte Zirger > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > > >> > > >> Hey everyone, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list > :) > > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In > Gottes > > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got > > that > > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they > expressed > > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Any memories out there? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Lori Straus > > >> > > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing > > Arts > > >> / Memoir > > >> (519) 503-7098 > > >> Skype: lori.straus > > >> www.loristraus.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > > >> > > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb > > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> Unsubscribe > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > > >> community > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

I just remembered probably the worst saying in German they used and it is a common one here also - which is "kiss my (you know what)" I know how to say it very well, but can't write it. After I married my husband who's mother's side is Hungarian I learned they use the same expression - imagine that :D Eve On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 5:25 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > My understanding is that most Serbian swear words were aimed at ones > mother. I've been told but def. not sure that Serbian and Russian are > close as is Croatian. I only know how to count tell a little joke (which > translates to: 1, 2, 3 your a Jacka..) which I only recently found out the > last word wasn't "monkey" as I had thought and how to swear with the best > of them apparently. So I am def. not an expert. > > Eve > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:20 PM Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or >> frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as >> "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still >> remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or >> frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, >> "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong >> emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). >> >> Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil >> get >> him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. >> Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in >> a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering >> one >> particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later >> about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." >> >> Rose >> >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com >> wrote: >> >> > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or >> > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i >> > won’t repeat here. ;-). >> > Please forgive my spelling errors. >> > >> > Rita >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and >> uncles - >> > it >> > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom >> > German's >> > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing >> > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of >> > what >> > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing >> when I >> > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it >> > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a >> > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to >> Serbia, I >> > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. >> > > >> > > Eve >> > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Hi Lori, >> > >> >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, >> and >> > >> not necessarily in german. >> > >> >> > >> Brigitte Zirger >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> > >> >> > >> Hey everyone, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the >> list :) >> > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In >> Gottes >> > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got >> > that >> > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they >> expressed >> > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Any memories out there? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Lori Straus >> > >> >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing >> > Arts >> > >> / Memoir >> > >> (519) 503-7098 >> > >> Skype: lori.straus >> > >> www.loristraus.com >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> > >> >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb >> > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > >> Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > >> community >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator >> > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

My experience with this saying is that the word for "kiss" is replaced with the word for "lick". Roy On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 5:35:14 p.m. EST, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: I just remembered probably the worst saying in German they used and it is a common one here also - which is "kiss my (you know what)" I know how to say it very well, but can't write it.  After I married my husband who's mother's side is Hungarian I learned they use the same expression - imagine that :D Eve On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 5:25 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > My understanding is that most Serbian swear words were aimed at ones > mother.  I've been told but def. not sure that Serbian and Russian are > close as is Croatian.  I only know how to count tell a little joke (which > translates to: 1, 2, 3 your a Jacka..) which I only recently found out the > last word wasn't "monkey" as I had thought and how to swear with the best > of them apparently.  So I am def. not an expert. > > Eve > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:20 PM Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or >> frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as >> "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still >> remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or >> frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, >> "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong >> emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). >> >> Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil >> get >> him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. >> Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in >> a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering >> one >> particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later >> about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." >> >> Rose >> >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com >> wrote: >> >> > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or >> > “Blöde Kühe“ .  For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i >> > won’t repeat here.  ;-). >> > Please forgive my spelling errors. >> > >> > Rita >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and >> uncles - >> > it >> > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom >> > German's >> > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing >> > > people to animals in German.  Of course, I had to get to the bottom of >> > what >> > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing >> when I >> > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it >> > > correctly.  About 7-8 years ago I found out.  When we visited Europe a >> > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to >> Serbia, I >> > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. >> > > >> > > Eve >> > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Hi Lori, >> > >> >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> > >> consider it swearing.  There were other choice expressions for that, >> and >> > >> not necessarily in german. >> > >> >> > >> Brigitte Zirger >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> > >> >> > >> Hey everyone, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the >> list :) >> > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In >> Gottes >> > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got >> > that >> > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they >> expressed >> > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Any memories out there? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Lori Straus >> > >> >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing >> > Arts >> > >> / Memoir >> > >> (519) 503-7098 >> > >> Skype: lori.straus >> > >> www.loristraus.com >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> > >> >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb >> > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > >> Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > >> community >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator >> > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

If something didn't work right, my Donauschwaben Grandfather would say "Schicken Sie es dem Papst!" or in English, "Send it to the Pope!" On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 5:49 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > My experience with this saying is that the word for "kiss" is replaced > with the word for "lick". > Roy > On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 5:35:14 p.m. EST, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I just remembered probably the worst saying in German they used and it is > a > common one here also - which is "kiss my (you know what)" I know how to say > it very well, but can't write it. After I married my husband who's > mother's side is Hungarian I learned they use the same expression - imagine > that :D > Eve > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 5:25 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > My understanding is that most Serbian swear words were aimed at ones > > mother. I've been told but def. not sure that Serbian and Russian are > > close as is Croatian. I only know how to count tell a little joke (which > > translates to: 1, 2, 3 your a Jacka..) which I only recently found out > the > > last word wasn't "monkey" as I had thought and how to swear with the best > > of them apparently. So I am def. not an expert. > > > > Eve > > > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:20 PM Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or > >> frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as > >> "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still > >> remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or > >> frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, > >> "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a > strong > >> emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). > >> > >> Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil > >> get > >> him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. > >> Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when > in > >> a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering > >> one > >> particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later > >> about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." > >> > >> Rose > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com > >> wrote: > >> > >> > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” > or > >> > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which > i > >> > won’t repeat here. ;-). > >> > Please forgive my spelling errors. > >> > > >> > Rita > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone > >> > > >> > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and > >> uncles - > >> > it > >> > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > >> > German's > >> > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to > comparing > >> > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom > of > >> > what > >> > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing > >> when I > >> > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > >> > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited > Europe a > >> > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to > >> Serbia, I > >> > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > >> > > > >> > > Eve > >> > > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Lori, > >> > >> > >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would > not > >> > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for > that, > >> and > >> > >> not necessarily in german. > >> > >> > >> > >> Brigitte Zirger > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > >> > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > >> > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > >> > >> > >> > >> Hey everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the > >> list :) > >> > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to > express > >> > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In > >> Gottes > >> > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I > got > >> > that > >> > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they > >> expressed > >> > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Any memories out there? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Lori Straus > >> > >> > >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / > Performing > >> > Arts > >> > >> / Memoir > >> > >> (519) 503-7098 > >> > >> Skype: lori.straus > >> > >> www.loristraus.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > >> > >> > >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb > >> > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> > >> Unsubscribe > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > >> RootsWeb > >> > >> community > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > >> > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> > > Unsubscribe > >> > > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > >> RootsWeb > >> > community > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> > Unsubscribe > >> > > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > >> > community > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I remember my mother often telling a funny story about someone doing something stupid and ending it with "do moncht yo grat ein coo beist om" (phonetically) "You'd almost think a cow was biting you" As a youngster it always made wonder what she meant … LOL Tony ________________________________ From: Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> Sent: March 3, 2019 8:49 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? My experience with this saying is that the word for "kiss" is replaced with the word for "lick". Roy On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 5:35:14 p.m. EST, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: I just remembered probably the worst saying in German they used and it is a common one here also - which is "kiss my (you know what)" I know how to say it very well, but can't write it. After I married my husband who's mother's side is Hungarian I learned they use the same expression - imagine that :D Eve On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 5:25 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > My understanding is that most Serbian swear words were aimed at ones > mother. I've been told but def. not sure that Serbian and Russian are > close as is Croatian. I only know how to count tell a little joke (which > translates to: 1, 2, 3 your a Jacka..) which I only recently found out the > last word wasn't "monkey" as I had thought and how to swear with the best > of them apparently. So I am def. not an expert. > > Eve > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:20 PM Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or >> frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as >> "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still >> remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or >> frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, >> "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong >> emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). >> >> Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil >> get >> him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. >> Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in >> a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering >> one >> particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later >> about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." >> >> Rose >> >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com >> wrote: >> >> > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or >> > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i >> > won’t repeat here. ;-). >> > Please forgive my spelling errors. >> > >> > Rita >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and >> uncles - >> > it >> > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom >> > German's >> > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing >> > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of >> > what >> > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing >> when I >> > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it >> > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a >> > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to >> Serbia, I >> > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. >> > > >> > > Eve >> > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Hi Lori, >> > >> >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, >> and >> > >> not necessarily in german. >> > >> >> > >> Brigitte Zirger >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> > >> >> > >> Hey everyone, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the >> list :) >> > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In >> Gottes >> > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got >> > that >> > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they >> expressed >> > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Any memories out there? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Lori Straus >> > >> >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing >> > Arts >> > >> / Memoir >> > >> (519) 503-7098 >> > >> Skype: lori.straus >> > >> www.loristraus.com<http://www.loristraus.com> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> > >> >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb >> > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > >> Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > >> community >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator >> > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Tony, If you or anyone else wonders about this meaning, it means or refers to something 'unbelievable'. Because cows don't bite. Anne Dreer -----Original Message----- From: Tony Fieder Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 10:15 AM To: Roy Engel ; Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? I remember my mother often telling a funny story about someone doing something stupid and ending it with "do moncht yo grat ein coo beist om" (phonetically) "You'd almost think a cow was biting you" As a youngster it always made wonder what she meant … LOL Tony ________________________________ From: Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> Sent: March 3, 2019 8:49 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? My experience with this saying is that the word for "kiss" is replaced with the word for "lick". Roy On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 5:35:14 p.m. EST, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: I just remembered probably the worst saying in German they used and it is a common one here also - which is "kiss my (you know what)" I know how to say it very well, but can't write it. After I married my husband who's mother's side is Hungarian I learned they use the same expression - imagine that :D Eve On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 5:25 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > My understanding is that most Serbian swear words were aimed at ones > mother. I've been told but def. not sure that Serbian and Russian are > close as is Croatian. I only know how to count tell a little joke (which > translates to: 1, 2, 3 your a Jacka..) which I only recently found out the > last word wasn't "monkey" as I had thought and how to swear with the best > of them apparently. So I am def. not an expert. > > Eve > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:20 PM Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or >> frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as >> "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still >> remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or >> frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, >> "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong >> emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). >> >> Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil >> get >> him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. >> Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when >> in >> a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering >> one >> particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later >> about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." >> >> Rose >> >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com >> wrote: >> >> > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” >> > or >> > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i >> > won’t repeat here. ;-). >> > Please forgive my spelling errors. >> > >> > Rita >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and >> uncles - >> > it >> > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom >> > German's >> > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to >> > > comparing >> > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom >> > > of >> > what >> > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing >> when I >> > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it >> > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe >> > > a >> > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to >> Serbia, I >> > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. >> > > >> > > Eve >> > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Hi Lori, >> > >> >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, >> and >> > >> not necessarily in german. >> > >> >> > >> Brigitte Zirger >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> > >> >> > >> Hey everyone, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the >> list :) >> > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In >> Gottes >> > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I >> > >> got >> > that >> > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they >> expressed >> > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Any memories out there? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Lori Straus >> > >> >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing >> > Arts >> > >> / Memoir >> > >> (519) 503-7098 >> > >> Skype: lori.straus >> > >> www.loristraus.com<http://www.loristraus.com> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> > >> >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb >> > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > >> Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > >> community >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator >> > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Dear Listers, At present I need to take a break from this mailing list to focus on my newly found Wales ancestors' research. Could someone please advise how I can unsubscribe from this list. Thank you. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois

Hello Joseph, I will unsubscribe you from the list. We would gladly welcome you back anytime! ------- Darlene DVHH Mailing List Administrator On 04-Mar-2019 11:03 AM, Joseph Martin wrote: > Dear Listers, > > At present I need to take a break from this mailing list to focus on my > newly found Wales ancestors' research. > > Could someone please advise how I can unsubscribe from this list. > > Thank you. > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Joseph, There is an unsubscribe link in the bottom of these emails. I too have Welsh branches. You may be interested that Wales has free access to historical newspapers scanned and posted. Best of all, they are searchable. https://newspapers.library.wales/ Brigitte ZIrger -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] Sent: March 4, 2019 11:04 AM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] How to unsubscribe Dear Listers, At present I need to take a break from this mailing list to focus on my newly found Wales ancestors' research. Could someone please advise how I can unsubscribe from this list. Thank you. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.c om Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

> On March 4, 2019 at 10:03 AM Joseph Martin <illinoisgenie@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Listers, > > At present I need to take a break from this mailing list to focus on my > newly found Wales ancestors' research. > > Could someone please advise how I can unsubscribe from this list. > > Thank you. > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

My experience is the same as Roy’s, so the phrase I heard was “Du kannst mich am Arsch lecke.” That I only heard when my DS father, uncle and grandfather got together and talked politics. :-)) Somewhat more genteel was “Du kannst mich gern habe,” which I heard from both my DS grandmother and my Bavarian mother. I don’t know if that speaks to the universality of the expression, or if my mother picked it up from my father’s family. When either of my parents was *really* angry at something, we would hear “Herr Gott! Sacrament noch a mal!” Oma and Opa were especially fond of using the word “schweinerei” as in “so ein schweinerei,” to refer to something (a situation or behavior) that was a mess, or unseemly somehow. I would say they used that term similar to the way we would say in English, “that’s bullshit” (or stronger, depending on the tone of delivery). I also remember an expression I only ever heard from my father, usually with a twinkle in his eye, when we would ask him where he was going and he didn’t want to tell us: “Hunds sei Arsch Bohne ruppe [rupfe]” (up a dog’s ass to pick beans). He said that phrase a couple of times in front of my American friends, who found the translation utterly hilarious, and I heard it quite a lot for a while… :-) -Linda > On Mar 3, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > > My experience with this saying is that the word for "kiss" is replaced with the word for "lick". > Roy > On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 5:35:14 p.m. EST, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > I just remembered probably the worst saying in German they used and it is a > common one here also - which is "kiss my (you know what)" I know how to say > it very well, but can't write it. After I married my husband who's > mother's side is Hungarian I learned they use the same expression - imagine > that :D > Eve >

Hi Lori, I was born in Canada, but grew up not only with my father, who was 18 years old when he arrived in Canada in 1952, but also with his parents and his grandmother.  This is why I can speak the Schwowisch dialect.  I also grew up hearing many expletives.  Many of these came from my great-grandmother.  The one that she reserved for the highest level of anger or frustration turns out to be a Serbian word that I only learned the meaning of in recent years because a Serbian radiologist joined our hospital.  It would be inappropriate for me to write the meaning of the word in English, but suffice to say that the English word is a four letter word and it does not begin with "s".  If I ever raised my voice to her she would say to me "Um ein Ton tiefer" (one level of volume lower).  Anger usually elicited "Kruzifix".  The meaning is what you think it is.  It's funny that as a young child, I never made the connection to the meaning of the word -  I just knew that it meant that she was angry at me.  My last recollection is one that my grandparents often used when they were disagreeing with each other and one of them wanted to end the discussion.  You must know that my father's family was Lutheran.  The closing comment to end the argument was "Ach, mach mich doch net katholisch"  (don't drive me to Catholicism).  I intend no offence to any List subscribers, but you must understand that my father's village of Kischker was entirely Lutheran. Best regards, Roy Pickering, Ontario On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 3:20:27 p.m. EST, Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil get him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering one particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." Rose On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com wrote: > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or > “Blöde Kühe“ .  For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i > won’t repeat here.  ;-). > Please forgive my spelling errors. > > Rita > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - > it > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > German's > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > > people to animals in German.  Of course, I had to get to the bottom of > what > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > > correctly.  About 7-8 years ago I found out.  When we visited Europe a > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > > > Eve > > > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Lori, > >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > >> consider it swearing.  There were other choice expressions for that, and > >> not necessarily in german. > >> > >> Brigitte Zirger > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > >> > >> Hey everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got > that > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > >> > >> > >> > >> Any memories out there? > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> Lori Straus > >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing > Arts > >> / Memoir > >> (519) 503-7098 > >> Skype: lori.straus > >> www.loristraus.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Oh, come on, Roy - tell the truth. We're all adults here. We can talk about "fuck" and "shit" and "vagina". This is about the correct words. There are a ton of you-tube videos about swear words. On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 4:27 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi Lori, > I was born in Canada, but grew up not only with my father, who was 18 > years old when he arrived in Canada in 1952, but also with his parents and > his grandmother. This is why I can speak the Schwowisch dialect. I also > grew up hearing many expletives. Many of these came from my > great-grandmother. The one that she reserved for the highest level of > anger or frustration turns out to be a Serbian word that I only learned the > meaning of in recent years because a Serbian radiologist joined our > hospital. It would be inappropriate for me to write the meaning of the > word in English, but suffice to say that the English word is a four letter > word and it does not begin with "s". If I ever raised my voice to her she > would say to me "Um ein Ton tiefer" (one level of volume lower). Anger > usually elicited "Kruzifix". The meaning is what you think it is. It's > funny that as a young child, I never made the connection to the meaning of > the word - I just knew that it meant that she was angry at me. My last > recollection is one that my grandparents often used when they were > disagreeing with each other and one of them wanted to end the discussion. > You must know that my father's family was Lutheran. The closing comment to > end the argument was "Ach, mach mich doch net katholisch" (don't drive me > to Catholicism). I intend no offence to any List subscribers, but you must > understand that my father's village of Kischker was entirely Lutheran. > Best regards, > Roy > Pickering, Ontario > On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 3:20:27 p.m. EST, Rose Vetter < > rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > > Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or > frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as > "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still > remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or > frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, > "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong > emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). > > Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil get > him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. > Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in > a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering one > particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later > about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." > > Rose > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com > wrote: > > > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or > > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i > > won’t repeat here. ;-). > > Please forgive my spelling errors. > > > > Rita > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles > - > > it > > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > > German's > > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of > > what > > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing > when I > > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, > I > > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > > > > > Eve > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Lori, > > >> > > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, > and > > >> not necessarily in german. > > >> > > >> Brigitte Zirger > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > > >> > > >> Hey everyone, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list > :) > > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In > Gottes > > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got > > that > > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they > expressed > > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Any memories out there? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Lori Straus > > >> > > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing > > Arts > > >> / Memoir > > >> (519) 503-7098 > > >> Skype: lori.straus > > >> www.loristraus.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > > >> > > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb > > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> Unsubscribe > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > > >> community > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >