Surnames:  Weber, Turi, Haas, KremerVillages:  Kikinda, Hatzfeld, Seultour, Charleville, St. Hubert, Sankt Nikolaus and der TheisRegion:  Banat I am looking for more information on my maternalgreat-grandparents.  My mother was born Anna Weber in 1928 in Kikinda, Yugoslavia.  Her parents, Mathias Weber and Veronika Haaswere born respectively in 1897 in Kikinda, and 1902 in Sankt Nikolaus an derTheis (now Ostojicevo, Serbia).  My great grandparents were: Johann Weber, born 1866,presumably in Hatzfeld, but can find no record of him in the Hatzfeld FB.  He was killed Oct. 16, 1944 in Kikinda.  My mother also believes that there may be afamily tie to the “French villages”, Seultour, Charleville, and St. Hubert  located to the east of Kikinda.Cecelia Turi, born 1876 in Kikinda and died 1914 in Kikinda. Johann Haas, born 1850 in Sankt Nikolaus and der Theis.  Died1922 in Kikinda.Barbara Kremer, born 1866 inSankt Nikolaus and der Theis .  Died 1932in Kikinda. I have hit a stone wall on all of the above.  I’ve been able to find only limitedinformation on Kikinda and none on Sankt Nikolaus an der Theis.   Any information that can be provided on these individuals would begreatly appreciated. Thanks, Franz Herrnreiter

This website https://www.zvab.com/ Zentrales Verzeichnes Antiquarischer Buecher has a lot of older books, including Donauschwaben ones. It's a lot of the old, rare book sellers in Germany. I've bought several over the years. It used to have a button to switch into English, but I couldn't find it on the home page. I found a lot by searching for "Donauschwaben" or the various towns and regions or by authors that I knew like Hengl. ------- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D On 26-Jan-2019 11:26 AM, Paul J. Stagl wrote: > I use a book published by the AKdFF entitled ³Donauschwäbisches > Ortsnamenbuch² by Isabella Regényi & Anton Scherer - published by the > Arbeitskreis donauschwäbischer Familienforscher (AKdFF), 1980. > > I believe the book is now out of print but the AKdFF frequently posts > books available through resale by its members. I have also periodically > seen copies for sale online. > > Paul Stagl > Toronto > > > On 2019-01-25, 9:23 PM, "Paul Thompson" <patjahsd@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Is anyone aware of a comprehensive list of all names for DonauSchwaben >> settlements with German, Serbian, Hungarian, Romanian, Bosnian, and >> Croatian versions of the names? >> >> I am aware of the fine work on the DVHH.org website. Some towns are >> missing. For example, Franzjosefsfeld is not to be found. I finally found >> it from Wikipedia - it is near Bijelinja in B-H. It is now Novo Selo. >> >> Paul A. Thompson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb >> .com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Posting for Joseph Hahn: Those in the Milwaukee area probably know that Anton (Tony) Pfalz passed away January 7th, aged 92, former president of the Apatiner Verein and literary and radio personality for the Donauschwaben. More later, Thank you Sepp Hahn (Joseph Hahn in Rheinland-Pfalz) ----------------------------------------------- Darlene Dimitrie DVHH Mailing List Administrator

I use a book published by the AKdFF entitled ³Donauschwäbisches Ortsnamenbuch² by Isabella Regényi & Anton Scherer - published by the Arbeitskreis donauschwäbischer Familienforscher (AKdFF), 1980. I believe the book is now out of print but the AKdFF frequently posts books available through resale by its members. I have also periodically seen copies for sale online. Paul Stagl Toronto On 2019-01-25, 9:23 PM, "Paul Thompson" <patjahsd@gmail.com> wrote: >Is anyone aware of a comprehensive list of all names for DonauSchwaben >settlements with German, Serbian, Hungarian, Romanian, Bosnian, and >Croatian versions of the names? > >I am aware of the fine work on the DVHH.org website. Some towns are >missing. For example, Franzjosefsfeld is not to be found. I finally found >it from Wikipedia - it is near Bijelinja in B-H. It is now Novo Selo. > >Paul A. Thompson > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb >.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community

Is anyone aware of a comprehensive list of all names for DonauSchwaben settlements with German, Serbian, Hungarian, Romanian, Bosnian, and Croatian versions of the names? I am aware of the fine work on the DVHH.org website. Some towns are missing. For example, Franzjosefsfeld is not to be found. I finally found it from Wikipedia - it is near Bijelinja in B-H. It is now Novo Selo. Paul A. Thompson

Hi, I was hoping someone would help me. I need some pages from the Wiseschdia Family Book. Pages 86,87,90,92,93 They should be for BRATAN (BRATTAN) IF THERE ARE ANY B/4 86 or after 93 I could use those also. Thanks for your help. Barb (in sub freezing Chicago, lots of time to work on Genealogy)

Hello, Christian. See this website:  www.tx21.de - Franzjosefsfeld - Tauss Here you can find some of your family. Greetings Herbert Am 25.01.2019 um 19:59 schrieb Christian Tauss: > Hi everyone!!!! > > I think part of my family was in Franzjosefsfeld during WWI, I think. > > I do not have information, but if someone had it, I would be interested in > knowing it. > > The surname of my grand grand father's brother was Tauss Stefan located in > Franzjosefsfeld. Does anyone know what happened in that area for WWI? > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > Tauss, Christian > > Bs. As. Argentina > > El jue., 24 ene. 2019 a las 15:05, Eva Arguello via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > (<donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>) escribió: > >> There is also a really good book in English titled "Back to the Banat" by >> Victor Wendl. It talks about the life of the Donauschwaben in Yugoslavia >> under the Tito rule. It's very sad, but it's got a very accurate >> description of all the cruel treatment under his regime. It also talks a >> bit about concentration camps. >> A book that was recommended to me, but I have not purchased is "Last Waltz >> on the Danube: The Ethnic German Genocide in History and Memory 1944-1948" >> by Ali Botein-Furrevig. >> Finally, "My Journey from the Banat to Canada" by Nick Tillius. Also a >> great read!! >> All are available at Amazon! >> Enjoy everyone! >> Eva >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> >

Hi everyone!!!! I think part of my family was in Franzjosefsfeld during WWI, I think. I do not have information, but if someone had it, I would be interested in knowing it. The surname of my grand grand father's brother was Tauss Stefan located in Franzjosefsfeld. Does anyone know what happened in that area for WWI? Thanks!!! Tauss, Christian Bs. As. Argentina El jue., 24 ene. 2019 a las 15:05, Eva Arguello via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES (<donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>) escribió: > There is also a really good book in English titled "Back to the Banat" by > Victor Wendl. It talks about the life of the Donauschwaben in Yugoslavia > under the Tito rule. It's very sad, but it's got a very accurate > description of all the cruel treatment under his regime. It also talks a > bit about concentration camps. > A book that was recommended to me, but I have not purchased is "Last Waltz > on the Danube: The Ethnic German Genocide in History and Memory 1944-1948" > by Ali Botein-Furrevig. > Finally, "My Journey from the Banat to Canada" by Nick Tillius. Also a > great read!! > All are available at Amazon! > Enjoy everyone! > Eva > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Tauss, Christian Mario.

Hello, I am interested in the following names and places: STEINMETZ: Sajkas Sentivan TAUS: Sajkas Sentivan REIN: Sajkas Sentivan REIN: Jarek KRIEGER: Novi Sad KOPP: Cervenka Most likely there are several spelling variations for the names/places. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Karl

REVISED  WITH A DATE CORRECTION Surnames: Bayer, Leszinski , Schmid, Schweipenz, Staub, Mutsch Village: Bukin ,  Present day Mladenovo Serbia Region: Banat    My grandparants Johann Bayer Born 1886 and Julia( Leszinski) Bayer born 1888, at age 22 her House #225.  After WW1 they left for America in 1920.  Thanks to the Bukin book I have found that I have Great Aunts and Uncles !!  I would love to find out any information about them.  They may have stayed in Bukin and I fear they may have ended up in camps.  I understand that Bukin residents may have gone  to Jarek.  Does anyone know how to find Records or Death Records for the Jarek Labor Camp. Or have any ideas or suggestions to find records on them.    The Aunts and Uncles I am looking for are:      Johann Schimd & Magdalina (Bayer) Schmid born1884.                                                                       Michael Schweipenz &  Theresia (Bayer) Schweipenz  born 1890                                                                        Johann Staub & Eva (Bayer) Staub born 1892                                                                       Jakob Mutsch & Apollonia (Bayer) Mutsch born 1894   Thank you ,  Jill Bayer Roberts -

Looking for information on the Nicholas and Magdalena Keller of Parabutsch. Looking for their Decendants. Thanks Jean Sent from my iPad

Bob, Okay. Look forward to what you find. Talk to you later Matthew Wolpert Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: bob@freiguys.com Date: 1/24/19 6:05 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)'" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Re: ROLL CALL - Ujfutak and Ofutak I have begun reading through these to find everyone whose  surname looks like one of the surnames I am seeking. Looks like it will take a long while to build my spreadsheet. When I am done, we can talk again. https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/10025 Bob Frei -----Original Message----- From: wolpert1015 <wolpert1015@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:25 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Re: ROLL CALL - Ujfutak and Ofutak Bob, My grandmothers maiden name was Kippert. Her father, Andreas Kippert, was born in Ujfutak in 1892. He married Veronika Csecs, who was born in 1895, also in Ujfutak. His father was Johannes Kippert, born in 1852 in Ujfutak. Johannes' father was Josephus Kippert, born in 1823, who was married to Julianna Piller. Finally, Josephus' father was Andreas Kippert, born in 1769, and died in 1848. He was married to Anna Montag. I am not sure if either Andreas or Josephus was born in Ujfutak, as birth records only start in 1826. I did not find a daughter named Franziska for them however. Matthew Wolpert Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: bob@freiguys.com Date: 1/23/19  9:58 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: "'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)'" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Re: ROLL CALL - Ujfutak and Ofutak Greetings, We may have a connection in the Kippert family of Ofutak. It appears my great- great-great-grandmother Franziska Kippert may have lived in Ofutak  in 1836 and married Josef Schneider.   Their marriage produced - among other children - the woman I believe to be my great-great-grandmother, Elisabeth Schneider. Elisabeth married Martin Walter, and they had a couple of daughters who came to the United States, my great Grandmother Julia and her sister Eva. I have not verified all of this yet with firm documentation, so I am hesitant to post it online because I have seen my speculative postings come back to me many years later in other people's online trees with the speculative notation removed. (My speculation had been wrong, but even today there are people quoting my incorrect speculation from the 1990s as fact.) How much information do you have about your Kippert clan?  I have almost nothing about mine. Bob Frei -----Original Message----- From: wolpert1015 <wolpert1015@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 8:53 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] ROLL CALL - Ujfutak and Ofutak Surnames- Stutz, Barth, Csecs, Kippert, and Piller. Particularly interested in finding the parents/ ancestry of Franciscus Stutz, Anna Barth, and Paulus Csecs, all probably born around 1810. Also, death dates for Johannes Kippert born 1852, Josephus Kippert born in 1823, Johannes Csecs born in 1832, and Magdalena(Kleinchek) Csecs, born in 1836. Thank you. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have begun reading through these to find everyone whose surname looks like one of the surnames I am seeking. Looks like it will take a long while to build my spreadsheet. When I am done, we can talk again. https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/10025 Bob Frei -----Original Message----- From: wolpert1015 <wolpert1015@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:25 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Re: ROLL CALL - Ujfutak and Ofutak Bob, My grandmothers maiden name was Kippert. Her father, Andreas Kippert, was born in Ujfutak in 1892. He married Veronika Csecs, who was born in 1895, also in Ujfutak. His father was Johannes Kippert, born in 1852 in Ujfutak. Johannes' father was Josephus Kippert, born in 1823, who was married to Julianna Piller. Finally, Josephus' father was Andreas Kippert, born in 1769, and died in 1848. He was married to Anna Montag. I am not sure if either Andreas or Josephus was born in Ujfutak, as birth records only start in 1826. I did not find a daughter named Franziska for them however. Matthew Wolpert Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: bob@freiguys.com Date: 1/23/19 9:58 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)'" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Re: ROLL CALL - Ujfutak and Ofutak Greetings, We may have a connection in the Kippert family of Ofutak. It appears my great- great-great-grandmother Franziska Kippert may have lived in Ofutak in 1836 and married Josef Schneider. Their marriage produced - among other children - the woman I believe to be my great-great-grandmother, Elisabeth Schneider. Elisabeth married Martin Walter, and they had a couple of daughters who came to the United States, my great Grandmother Julia and her sister Eva. I have not verified all of this yet with firm documentation, so I am hesitant to post it online because I have seen my speculative postings come back to me many years later in other people's online trees with the speculative notation removed. (My speculation had been wrong, but even today there are people quoting my incorrect speculation from the 1990s as fact.) How much information do you have about your Kippert clan? I have almost nothing about mine. Bob Frei -----Original Message----- From: wolpert1015 <wolpert1015@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 8:53 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] ROLL CALL - Ujfutak and Ofutak Surnames- Stutz, Barth, Csecs, Kippert, and Piller. Particularly interested in finding the parents/ ancestry of Franciscus Stutz, Anna Barth, and Paulus Csecs, all probably born around 1810. Also, death dates for Johannes Kippert born 1852, Josephus Kippert born in 1823, Johannes Csecs born in 1832, and Magdalena(Kleinchek) Csecs, born in 1836. Thank you. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Surnames: Bayer, Leszinski , Schmid, Schweipenz, Staub, Mutsch Village: Bukin ,  Present day Mladenovo Serbia Region: Banat    My grandparants Johann Bayer Born 1816 and Julia( Leszinski) Bayer born 1888, at age 22 her House #225.  After WW1 they left for America in 1920.  Thanks to the Bukin book I have found that I have Great Aunts and Uncles.  I would love to find out any information about them.  They may have stayed in Bukin and I fear they may have ended up in camps.  I understand that Bukin people went to Jarek.  Does anyone know how to find Records or Death Records for Jarek Labor Camp.   The Aunts and Uncles I am looking for are:      Johann Schimd & Magdalina (Bayer) Schmid born1884.                                                                       Michael Schweipenz &  Theresia (Bayer) Schweipenz  born 1890                                                                        Johann Staub & Eva (Bayer) Staub born 1892                                                                       Jakob Mutsch & Apollonia (Bayer) Mutsch born 1894   Thank you ,  Jill Bayer Roberts

I have Roos in my family tree one married a Zoller from Hungary I believe they ended up in Germany . Kathy -----Original Message----- From: c.hartmann <c.hartmann@tc3net.com> To: DVHH Newsletter Donauschwaben <donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2019 8:02 pm Subject: [DVHH] Roll Call Nagyszentmiklos, Hungary Zenser, Roos, Gruen, Kyre...Nagyszentmiklos, Torontal, Hungary _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

There is also a really good book in English titled "Back to the Banat" by Victor Wendl. It talks about the life of the Donauschwaben in Yugoslavia under the Tito rule. It's very sad, but it's got a very accurate description of all the cruel treatment under his regime. It also talks a bit about concentration camps. A book that was recommended to me, but I have not purchased is "Last Waltz on the Danube: The Ethnic German Genocide in History and Memory 1944-1948" by Ali Botein-Furrevig.  Finally, "My Journey from the Banat to Canada" by Nick Tillius. Also a great read!! All are available at Amazon! Enjoy everyone! Eva

My link didn't post.  Google Abe Books.  They have it. On Thursday, January 24, 2019, 11:09:20 AM EST, Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: La Trag E9die Des Banatais - AbeBooks | | | |  |  | | | | |  | La Trag E9die Des Banatais - AbeBooks AbeBooks is the world's largest marketplace for new, used and out of print books. | | |     On Thursday, January 24, 2019, 11:02:28 AM EST, Daniel HILAIRE <danielhilaire@hotmail.com> wrote:  Editor = France Regions à Belfort  # ISBN = 2 908028 3 87 ________________________________ De : Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> Envoyé : jeudi 24 janvier 2019 13:50 À : Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Objet : [DVHH] Re: Attitudes toward Germans in Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia from 1918-1941 " La tragédie des Banatais" sounds interesting, but I am unable to find it. Probably out of print. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:21 AM Daniel HILAIRE <danielhilaire@hotmail.com> wrote: > Bonjour Lori, > > I am also very interested in this time period and I just finish reading a > book written by an Alsatian guy, Rene SPIESS, in 1992. > The name of the book, written in french, is "La tragédie des Banatais" > (The tragedy of the inhabitants of Banat). > The story begins in a part of Banat that has become Serbian and ends with > the return to France of some Banat survivors > The first chapters therefore describe the life of a Banaters family under > the administration of Serbs whom they despise. The young Banaters people > who fight on Sundays around the dance halls if young Serbs want to come and > dance too.... > The growing popularity of HITLER in the eyes of those people who see in > the Wermacht an army of liberation from which they look forward to its > arrival. But it is in the Yugoslav army that young people are mobilized. At > least until March 1941 when the German army invaded Yugoslavia; then the > Banaters dressed all their villages with swastika flags! > The Yugoslav army is in total disarray and some Serbs decide to continue > the fight in hiding; this is the beginning of other chapters that will have > a tragic end for the Banaters; hence the title of this historical novel. > > Daniel, Bordeaux > > ________________________________ > De : Lori Straus <loristraus@loristraus.com> > Envoyé : jeudi 24 janvier 2019 02:12 > À : Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Objet : [DVHH] Re: Attitudes toward Germans in Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia > from 1918-1941 > > This is exactly the time period I’m researching. It’s been difficult, > precisely because of the new borders and shifting languages. I just > recently hired two freelancers in Romania via Upwork to carry out some > research for me, because the material I need to research for my novels > (they have a DS storyline—www.loriwolfheffner.com) is in either Romanian > or Hungarian. The results I got were very good. I can forward on names if > you’d like. They can, for example, scan local newspapers from the time and > look for any attitudes towards Germans and then translate those for you. I > paid one $25 USD per hour (she was well worth it) and the other $10 USD per > hour (I think she’s just finishing up post-secondary or has just finished). > She was also good. > > Lori Straus > Freelance writer, editor, and German-to-English translator > Sent from my phone > > > On Jan 23, 2019, at 8:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com> > wrote: > > > > No.... that started 01/01/1900.  Overnight all documents were written in > Hungarian and that became the language in school. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jan 23, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Joe Schmidt <joseph.n.schmidt@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> When my great-great grandparents immigrated to the United States in 1906 > >> they translated all of their names back from Hungarian to German (both > were > >> from the Kikinda region). It was a huge mystery to us until recently, > as we > >> had no idea why our last name was changed from Kovacs to Schmidt! > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:13 PM Thomas Myers <tom.john.myers@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Paul, > >>> > >>> Didn't they require all citizens to speak and write Hungarian > beginning the > >>> late 1800s? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Tom > >>> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 16:03 Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I agree with you, Eve. There is no single answer. There were many > people > >>> in > >>>> many towns. No single situation. > >>>> > >>>> However, I do know that some things were happening. There was > >>>> "magyarization" in Hungary - a push to become ethnically more > Hungarian. > >>> My > >>>> GGGrandfather's obituary talks about "3 attacks on the family" > leading to > >>>> "turning his eyes to America". > >>>> > >>>> In the Vojvodinja, in particular, things were probably quite > difficult. > >>>> That area was A-H before the war and Serbian after the war. There was > >>>> hatred due to wartime loses against Germans. My Great-uncle was shot > by > >>>> Serbs, I believe due to his speaking German. My grandfather spent > time in > >>>> prison. > >>>> > >>>> So, there was an increase in anti-Germanic attitudes. I am looking > for a > >>>> book or article discussing this. > >>>> > >>>> Paul A. Thompson > >>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 2:55 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello Paul, > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't know if there would be a universal answer to this from all > I've > >>>>> heard. I believe the attitudes were different depending on where you > >>>>> lived.  My parents lived in very diverse towns and some of their > >>> closest > >>>>> friends were Serbs and some family members also intermarried.  During > >>> the > >>>>> second WW though brother was pitted against brother as to who's > "side" > >>>> they > >>>>> were on.  Very much like the US during the Civil War.  Just my 2 > cents > >>>>> worth. > >>>>> > >>>>> Eve > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 3:41 PM Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Many here are familiar with the events following WWII on the > Germanic > >>>>>> population in Czech R, Yugoslavia, Poland, etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am interested in the time after WWI up to WWII. Is there a book or > >>>>>> document which discusses the overall impact on Germanic persons in > >>> the > >>>>>> Auslanderdeutschenlander? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Paul A. 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La Trag E9die Des Banatais - AbeBooks | | | | | | | | | | | La Trag E9die Des Banatais - AbeBooks AbeBooks is the world's largest marketplace for new, used and out of print books. | | | On Thursday, January 24, 2019, 11:02:28 AM EST, Daniel HILAIRE <danielhilaire@hotmail.com> wrote: Editor = France Regions à Belfort  # ISBN = 2 908028 3 87 ________________________________ De : Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> Envoyé : jeudi 24 janvier 2019 13:50 À : Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Objet : [DVHH] Re: Attitudes toward Germans in Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia from 1918-1941 " La tragédie des Banatais" sounds interesting, but I am unable to find it. Probably out of print. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:21 AM Daniel HILAIRE <danielhilaire@hotmail.com> wrote: > Bonjour Lori, > > I am also very interested in this time period and I just finish reading a > book written by an Alsatian guy, Rene SPIESS, in 1992. > The name of the book, written in french, is "La tragédie des Banatais" > (The tragedy of the inhabitants of Banat). > The story begins in a part of Banat that has become Serbian and ends with > the return to France of some Banat survivors > The first chapters therefore describe the life of a Banaters family under > the administration of Serbs whom they despise. The young Banaters people > who fight on Sundays around the dance halls if young Serbs want to come and > dance too.... > The growing popularity of HITLER in the eyes of those people who see in > the Wermacht an army of liberation from which they look forward to its > arrival. But it is in the Yugoslav army that young people are mobilized. At > least until March 1941 when the German army invaded Yugoslavia; then the > Banaters dressed all their villages with swastika flags! > The Yugoslav army is in total disarray and some Serbs decide to continue > the fight in hiding; this is the beginning of other chapters that will have > a tragic end for the Banaters; hence the title of this historical novel. > > Daniel, Bordeaux > > ________________________________ > De : Lori Straus <loristraus@loristraus.com> > Envoyé : jeudi 24 janvier 2019 02:12 > À : Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Objet : [DVHH] Re: Attitudes toward Germans in Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia > from 1918-1941 > > This is exactly the time period I’m researching. It’s been difficult, > precisely because of the new borders and shifting languages. I just > recently hired two freelancers in Romania via Upwork to carry out some > research for me, because the material I need to research for my novels > (they have a DS storyline—www.loriwolfheffner.com) is in either Romanian > or Hungarian. The results I got were very good. I can forward on names if > you’d like. They can, for example, scan local newspapers from the time and > look for any attitudes towards Germans and then translate those for you. I > paid one $25 USD per hour (she was well worth it) and the other $10 USD per > hour (I think she’s just finishing up post-secondary or has just finished). > She was also good. > > Lori Straus > Freelance writer, editor, and German-to-English translator > Sent from my phone > > > On Jan 23, 2019, at 8:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com> > wrote: > > > > No.... that started 01/01/1900.  Overnight all documents were written in > Hungarian and that became the language in school. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jan 23, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Joe Schmidt <joseph.n.schmidt@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> When my great-great grandparents immigrated to the United States in 1906 > >> they translated all of their names back from Hungarian to German (both > were > >> from the Kikinda region). It was a huge mystery to us until recently, > as we > >> had no idea why our last name was changed from Kovacs to Schmidt! > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:13 PM Thomas Myers <tom.john.myers@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Paul, > >>> > >>> Didn't they require all citizens to speak and write Hungarian > beginning the > >>> late 1800s? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Tom > >>> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 16:03 Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I agree with you, Eve. There is no single answer. There were many > people > >>> in > >>>> many towns. No single situation. > >>>> > >>>> However, I do know that some things were happening. There was > >>>> "magyarization" in Hungary - a push to become ethnically more > Hungarian. > >>> My > >>>> GGGrandfather's obituary talks about "3 attacks on the family" > leading to > >>>> "turning his eyes to America". > >>>> > >>>> In the Vojvodinja, in particular, things were probably quite > difficult. > >>>> That area was A-H before the war and Serbian after the war. There was > >>>> hatred due to wartime loses against Germans. My Great-uncle was shot > by > >>>> Serbs, I believe due to his speaking German. My grandfather spent > time in > >>>> prison. > >>>> > >>>> So, there was an increase in anti-Germanic attitudes. I am looking > for a > >>>> book or article discussing this. > >>>> > >>>> Paul A. Thompson > >>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 2:55 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello Paul, > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't know if there would be a universal answer to this from all > I've > >>>>> heard. I believe the attitudes were different depending on where you > >>>>> lived.  My parents lived in very diverse towns and some of their > >>> closest > >>>>> friends were Serbs and some family members also intermarried.  During > >>> the > >>>>> second WW though brother was pitted against brother as to who's > "side" > >>>> they > >>>>> were on.  Very much like the US during the Civil War.  Just my 2 > cents > >>>>> worth. > >>>>> > >>>>> Eve > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 3:41 PM Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Many here are familiar with the events following WWII on the > Germanic > >>>>>> population in Czech R, Yugoslavia, Poland, etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am interested in the time after WWI up to WWII. Is there a book or > >>>>>> document which discusses the overall impact on Germanic persons in > >>> the > >>>>>> Auslanderdeutschenlander? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Paul A. Thompson > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>>>>> Unsubscribe > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >>>>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > >>>>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>>>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>>>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > >>> RootsWeb > >>>>>> community > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Syrmia Regional Coordinator > >>>>> http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>>>> Unsubscribe > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >>>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >>>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > >>>>> community > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>>> Unsubscribe > >>>> > >>> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > >>>> community > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >>> Unsubscribe > >>> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >>> community > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Editor = France Regions à Belfort # ISBN = 2 908028 3 87 ________________________________ De : Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> Envoyé : jeudi 24 janvier 2019 13:50 À : Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Objet : [DVHH] Re: Attitudes toward Germans in Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia from 1918-1941 " La tragédie des Banatais" sounds interesting, but I am unable to find it. Probably out of print. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:21 AM Daniel HILAIRE <danielhilaire@hotmail.com> wrote: > Bonjour Lori, > > I am also very interested in this time period and I just finish reading a > book written by an Alsatian guy, Rene SPIESS, in 1992. > The name of the book, written in french, is "La tragédie des Banatais" > (The tragedy of the inhabitants of Banat). > The story begins in a part of Banat that has become Serbian and ends with > the return to France of some Banat survivors > The first chapters therefore describe the life of a Banaters family under > the administration of Serbs whom they despise. The young Banaters people > who fight on Sundays around the dance halls if young Serbs want to come and > dance too.... > The growing popularity of HITLER in the eyes of those people who see in > the Wermacht an army of liberation from which they look forward to its > arrival. But it is in the Yugoslav army that young people are mobilized. At > least until March 1941 when the German army invaded Yugoslavia; then the > Banaters dressed all their villages with swastika flags! > The Yugoslav army is in total disarray and some Serbs decide to continue > the fight in hiding; this is the beginning of other chapters that will have > a tragic end for the Banaters; hence the title of this historical novel. > > Daniel, Bordeaux > > ________________________________ > De : Lori Straus <loristraus@loristraus.com> > Envoyé : jeudi 24 janvier 2019 02:12 > À : Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Objet : [DVHH] Re: Attitudes toward Germans in Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia > from 1918-1941 > > This is exactly the time period I’m researching. It’s been difficult, > precisely because of the new borders and shifting languages. I just > recently hired two freelancers in Romania via Upwork to carry out some > research for me, because the material I need to research for my novels > (they have a DS storyline—www.loriwolfheffner.com) is in either Romanian > or Hungarian. The results I got were very good. I can forward on names if > you’d like. They can, for example, scan local newspapers from the time and > look for any attitudes towards Germans and then translate those for you. I > paid one $25 USD per hour (she was well worth it) and the other $10 USD per > hour (I think she’s just finishing up post-secondary or has just finished). > She was also good. > > Lori Straus > Freelance writer, editor, and German-to-English translator > Sent from my phone > > > On Jan 23, 2019, at 8:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com> > wrote: > > > > No.... that started 01/01/1900. Overnight all documents were written in > Hungarian and that became the language in school. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jan 23, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Joe Schmidt <joseph.n.schmidt@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> When my great-great grandparents immigrated to the United States in 1906 > >> they translated all of their names back from Hungarian to German (both > were > >> from the Kikinda region). It was a huge mystery to us until recently, > as we > >> had no idea why our last name was changed from Kovacs to Schmidt! > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:13 PM Thomas Myers <tom.john.myers@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Paul, > >>> > >>> Didn't they require all citizens to speak and write Hungarian > beginning the > >>> late 1800s? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Tom > >>> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 16:03 Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I agree with you, Eve. There is no single answer. There were many > people > >>> in > >>>> many towns. No single situation. > >>>> > >>>> However, I do know that some things were happening. There was > >>>> "magyarization" in Hungary - a push to become ethnically more > Hungarian. > >>> My > >>>> GGGrandfather's obituary talks about "3 attacks on the family" > leading to > >>>> "turning his eyes to America". > >>>> > >>>> In the Vojvodinja, in particular, things were probably quite > difficult. > >>>> That area was A-H before the war and Serbian after the war. There was > >>>> hatred due to wartime loses against Germans. My Great-uncle was shot > by > >>>> Serbs, I believe due to his speaking German. My grandfather spent > time in > >>>> prison. > >>>> > >>>> So, there was an increase in anti-Germanic attitudes. I am looking > for a > >>>> book or article discussing this. > >>>> > >>>> Paul A. Thompson > >>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 2:55 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello Paul, > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't know if there would be a universal answer to this from all > I've > >>>>> heard. I believe the attitudes were different depending on where you > >>>>> lived. My parents lived in very diverse towns and some of their > >>> closest > >>>>> friends were Serbs and some family members also intermarried. During > >>> the > >>>>> second WW though brother was pitted against brother as to who's > "side" > >>>> they > >>>>> were on. Very much like the US during the Civil War. Just my 2 > cents > >>>>> worth. > >>>>> > >>>>> Eve > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 3:41 PM Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Many here are familiar with the events following WWII on the > Germanic > >>>>>> population in Czech R, Yugoslavia, Poland, etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am interested in the time after WWI up to WWII. Is there a book or > >>>>>> document which discusses the overall impact on Germanic persons in > >>> the > >>>>>> Auslanderdeutschenlander? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Paul A. 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" La tragédie des Banatais" sounds interesting, but I am unable to find it. Probably out of print. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:21 AM Daniel HILAIRE <danielhilaire@hotmail.com> wrote: > Bonjour Lori, > > I am also very interested in this time period and I just finish reading a > book written by an Alsatian guy, Rene SPIESS, in 1992. > The name of the book, written in french, is "La tragédie des Banatais" > (The tragedy of the inhabitants of Banat). > The story begins in a part of Banat that has become Serbian and ends with > the return to France of some Banat survivors > The first chapters therefore describe the life of a Banaters family under > the administration of Serbs whom they despise. The young Banaters people > who fight on Sundays around the dance halls if young Serbs want to come and > dance too.... > The growing popularity of HITLER in the eyes of those people who see in > the Wermacht an army of liberation from which they look forward to its > arrival. But it is in the Yugoslav army that young people are mobilized. At > least until March 1941 when the German army invaded Yugoslavia; then the > Banaters dressed all their villages with swastika flags! > The Yugoslav army is in total disarray and some Serbs decide to continue > the fight in hiding; this is the beginning of other chapters that will have > a tragic end for the Banaters; hence the title of this historical novel. > > Daniel, Bordeaux > > ________________________________ > De : Lori Straus <loristraus@loristraus.com> > Envoyé : jeudi 24 janvier 2019 02:12 > À : Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Objet : [DVHH] Re: Attitudes toward Germans in Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia > from 1918-1941 > > This is exactly the time period I’m researching. It’s been difficult, > precisely because of the new borders and shifting languages. I just > recently hired two freelancers in Romania via Upwork to carry out some > research for me, because the material I need to research for my novels > (they have a DS storyline—www.loriwolfheffner.com) is in either Romanian > or Hungarian. The results I got were very good. I can forward on names if > you’d like. They can, for example, scan local newspapers from the time and > look for any attitudes towards Germans and then translate those for you. I > paid one $25 USD per hour (she was well worth it) and the other $10 USD per > hour (I think she’s just finishing up post-secondary or has just finished). > She was also good. > > Lori Straus > Freelance writer, editor, and German-to-English translator > Sent from my phone > > > On Jan 23, 2019, at 8:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com> > wrote: > > > > No.... that started 01/01/1900. Overnight all documents were written in > Hungarian and that became the language in school. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jan 23, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Joe Schmidt <joseph.n.schmidt@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> When my great-great grandparents immigrated to the United States in 1906 > >> they translated all of their names back from Hungarian to German (both > were > >> from the Kikinda region). It was a huge mystery to us until recently, > as we > >> had no idea why our last name was changed from Kovacs to Schmidt! > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:13 PM Thomas Myers <tom.john.myers@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Paul, > >>> > >>> Didn't they require all citizens to speak and write Hungarian > beginning the > >>> late 1800s? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Tom > >>> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 16:03 Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I agree with you, Eve. There is no single answer. There were many > people > >>> in > >>>> many towns. No single situation. > >>>> > >>>> However, I do know that some things were happening. There was > >>>> "magyarization" in Hungary - a push to become ethnically more > Hungarian. > >>> My > >>>> GGGrandfather's obituary talks about "3 attacks on the family" > leading to > >>>> "turning his eyes to America". > >>>> > >>>> In the Vojvodinja, in particular, things were probably quite > difficult. > >>>> That area was A-H before the war and Serbian after the war. There was > >>>> hatred due to wartime loses against Germans. My Great-uncle was shot > by > >>>> Serbs, I believe due to his speaking German. My grandfather spent > time in > >>>> prison. > >>>> > >>>> So, there was an increase in anti-Germanic attitudes. I am looking > for a > >>>> book or article discussing this. > >>>> > >>>> Paul A. Thompson > >>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 2:55 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello Paul, > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't know if there would be a universal answer to this from all > I've > >>>>> heard. I believe the attitudes were different depending on where you > >>>>> lived. My parents lived in very diverse towns and some of their > >>> closest > >>>>> friends were Serbs and some family members also intermarried. During > >>> the > >>>>> second WW though brother was pitted against brother as to who's > "side" > >>>> they > >>>>> were on. Very much like the US during the Civil War. Just my 2 > cents > >>>>> worth. > >>>>> > >>>>> Eve > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 3:41 PM Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Many here are familiar with the events following WWII on the > Germanic > >>>>>> population in Czech R, Yugoslavia, Poland, etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am interested in the time after WWI up to WWII. Is there a book or > >>>>>> document which discusses the overall impact on Germanic persons in > >>> the > >>>>>> Auslanderdeutschenlander? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Paul A. 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