Hi Lori, I was born in Canada, but grew up not only with my father, who was 18 years old when he arrived in Canada in 1952, but also with his parents and his grandmother.  This is why I can speak the Schwowisch dialect.  I also grew up hearing many expletives.  Many of these came from my great-grandmother.  The one that she reserved for the highest level of anger or frustration turns out to be a Serbian word that I only learned the meaning of in recent years because a Serbian radiologist joined our hospital.  It would be inappropriate for me to write the meaning of the word in English, but suffice to say that the English word is a four letter word and it does not begin with "s".  If I ever raised my voice to her she would say to me "Um ein Ton tiefer" (one level of volume lower).  Anger usually elicited "Kruzifix".  The meaning is what you think it is.  It's funny that as a young child, I never made the connection to the meaning of the word -  I just knew that it meant that she was angry at me.  My last recollection is one that my grandparents often used when they were disagreeing with each other and one of them wanted to end the discussion.  You must know that my father's family was Lutheran.  The closing comment to end the argument was "Ach, mach mich doch net katholisch"  (don't drive me to Catholicism).  I intend no offence to any List subscribers, but you must understand that my father's village of Kischker was entirely Lutheran. Best regards, Roy Pickering, Ontario On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 3:20:27 p.m. EST, Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil get him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering one particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." Rose On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com wrote: > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or > “Blöde Kühe“ .  For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i > won’t repeat here.  ;-). > Please forgive my spelling errors. > > Rita > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - > it > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > German's > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > > people to animals in German.  Of course, I had to get to the bottom of > what > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > > correctly.  About 7-8 years ago I found out.  When we visited Europe a > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > > > Eve > > > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Lori, > >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > >> consider it swearing.  There were other choice expressions for that, and > >> not necessarily in german. > >> > >> Brigitte Zirger > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > >> > >> Hey everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got > that > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > >> > >> > >> > >> Any memories out there? > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> Lori Straus > >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing > Arts > >> / Memoir > >> (519) 503-7098 > >> Skype: lori.straus > >> www.loristraus.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

My understanding is that most Serbian swear words were aimed at ones mother. I've been told but def. not sure that Serbian and Russian are close as is Croatian. I only know how to count tell a little joke (which translates to: 1, 2, 3 your a Jacka..) which I only recently found out the last word wasn't "monkey" as I had thought and how to swear with the best of them apparently. So I am def. not an expert. Eve On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:20 PM Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or > frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as > "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still > remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or > frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, > "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong > emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). > > Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil get > him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. > Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in > a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering one > particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later > about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." > > Rose > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com > wrote: > > > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or > > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i > > won’t repeat here. ;-). > > Please forgive my spelling errors. > > > > Rita > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles > - > > it > > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > > German's > > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of > > what > > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing > when I > > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, > I > > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > > > > > Eve > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Lori, > > >> > > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, > and > > >> not necessarily in german. > > >> > > >> Brigitte Zirger > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > > >> > > >> Hey everyone, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list > :) > > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In > Gottes > > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got > > that > > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they > expressed > > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Any memories out there? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Lori Straus > > >> > > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing > > Arts > > >> / Memoir > > >> (519) 503-7098 > > >> Skype: lori.straus > > >> www.loristraus.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > > >> > > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb > > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> Unsubscribe > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > > >> community > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

Hello Dan, I have an Ursula Seichepine (*1725 in Steinbiedersdorf/ Pontpierre, Lorraine; +1785 in Bogrosch, Banat). I also have a Catherine Lambinet (*1736 in Geblingen /Le Val-de-Gueblange; +1813 in Bogrosch, Banat). Does Charles mention these in his book? How far back does the book follow their families? Thanks, Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] Sent: March 2, 2019 11:36 AM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just ordered a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > Greetings to all List subscribers, > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I > purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. > Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs > contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as > some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed text > and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has > been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in > Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that > this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any > lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I > purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and > in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that the > price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice > was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no > affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > | > | > | | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > | > > | > > | > > > > > Regards, > RoyPickering, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

If I may join in this new find, there is a story in my family about someone coming from Alsace/Lorraine.  Nothing to back it up but  no harm in asking.  Is there a Metzner or Riedel in the book? Thank you.  Marlene Metzner

Nicolas FRANCOIS - married Marianne MASSON on 13 Nov 1725 at Nitting. A child is listed as Catharine, who married Francois PIERSON. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Paul Frank [mailto:paulfrank@sasktel.net] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 4:29 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) Hello Dan, would it be possible to send me the information especially Nicolas. Paul > On Mar 3, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: > > From that standpoint, there are three FRANCOIS names in the book, but no Martin, just Antoine, Claude and Nicolas. > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mjm1021@comcast.net [mailto:mjm1021@comcast.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 3:01 PM > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) > > Francois is the French spelling which would be appropriate for Alsace and Lorraine. > > Fran Matkovich > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: >> >> Sorry Paul, but nothing listed for FRANZWA and BAHL. >> Dan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Frank [mailto:paulfrank@sasktel.net] >> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:57 AM >> To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' >> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) >> Importance: Low >> >> Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help. >> >> Paul Frank >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] >> Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM >> To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' >> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books >> >> I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. >> Dan Walter >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Dan, would it be possible to send me the information especially Nicolas. Paul > On Mar 3, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: > > From that standpoint, there are three FRANCOIS names in the book, but no Martin, just Antoine, Claude and Nicolas. > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mjm1021@comcast.net [mailto:mjm1021@comcast.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 3:01 PM > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) > > Francois is the French spelling which would be appropriate for Alsace and Lorraine. > > Fran Matkovich > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: >> >> Sorry Paul, but nothing listed for FRANZWA and BAHL. >> Dan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Frank [mailto:paulfrank@sasktel.net] >> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:57 AM >> To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' >> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) >> Importance: Low >> >> Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help. >> >> Paul Frank >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] >> Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM >> To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' >> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books >> >> I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. >> Dan Walter >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

From that standpoint, there are three FRANCOIS names in the book, but no Martin, just Antoine, Claude and Nicolas. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Mjm1021@comcast.net [mailto:mjm1021@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 3:01 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) Francois is the French spelling which would be appropriate for Alsace and Lorraine. Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad > On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: > > Sorry Paul, but nothing listed for FRANZWA and BAHL. > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Frank [mailto:paulfrank@sasktel.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:57 AM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) > Importance: Low > > Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help. > > Paul Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] > Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. > Dan Walter > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Ok Dan thank you. Paul > On Mar 3, 2019, at 3:28 PM, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: > > Sorry Paul, but nothing listed for FRANZWA and BAHL. > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Frank [mailto:paulfrank@sasktel.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:57 AM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) > Importance: Low > > Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help. > > Paul Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] > Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. > Dan Walter > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

My ancestors were in Apatin for almost two hundred years. In my research I have never seen that spelling. Both Josef Schwend and Jacob Schuy used Franzwa. Online records used Francvay but it was seldom. Paul > On Mar 3, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Anne Dreer <dreera@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Hello Frank, > Could the original spelling of Franzwa have been François? > Anne Dreer > > -----Original Message----- From: Paul Frank > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:57 AM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) > > Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help. > > Paul Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] > Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. > Dan Walter > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Sorry Walter, but there are no SUCHER entries in the book. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Daniela Hieslmayr [mailto:daniela.hieslmayr@gmx.at] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 2:05 PM To: DVHH Mail List Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Hello Walter! I can not help with Elsass, but with Bela Crkva. Dominik Sucher married Magdalena Klein on 16th Feb 1800. I could not find his birth in the records, but his best man at the wedding was Dominik Jeanplong, who had a whole bunch of godchildren, many named after him - Dominik. Liebe Grüße, Daniela Am 03.03.19, 13:59 schrieb "Walter Sucher" unter <walter.sucher@t-online.de>: >Hi Dan, > >thank you for your kind offer. > >Please look up my family name SUCHER - > >my ‚oldest‘ relative is a DOMINIK SUCHER who married in 1802 in Bela >Crkva/Weisskirchen, Banat - he or his fathers immigrated from Alsace etc, >that is all I ‚know‘... > >Thank you. > >Walter Sucher >D 14050 Berlin > >> Am 02.03.2019 um 17:35 schrieb Andrea & Dan Walter >><ajwdcw@windstream.net>: >> >> I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' >>emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle >>1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. >> Dan Walter >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM >> To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) >> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books >> >> Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea >>these >> cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just >>ordered >> a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio >> >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: >> >>> Greetings to all List subscribers, >>> I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I >>> purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by >>>Dr. >>> Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two >>>CDs >>> contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as >>> some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed >>>text >>> and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry >>>has >>> been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein >>>in >>> Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms >>>that >>> this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any >>> lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I >>> purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been >>>researched and >>> in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that >>>the >>> price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The >>>invoice >>> was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no >>> affiliation with the retailer or the author. >>> >>> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >>> >>> >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >>> >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> RoyPickering, Ontario >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >>> >>>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsw >>>eb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>> community >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootswe >>b.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootswe >>b.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>community >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb >.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil get him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering one particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." Rose On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com wrote: > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i > won’t repeat here. ;-). > Please forgive my spelling errors. > > Rita > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - > it > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > German's > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of > what > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > > > Eve > > > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Lori, > >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and > >> not necessarily in german. > >> > >> Brigitte Zirger > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > >> > >> Hey everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got > that > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > >> > >> > >> > >> Any memories out there? > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> Lori Straus > >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing > Arts > >> / Memoir > >> (519) 503-7098 > >> Skype: lori.straus > >> www.loristraus.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > > > -- > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

It is true that when it comes to swearing, the Hungarians are world champions. In a single expression they could include the other person's mother, an animal, and God. The Rumanians would get the silver medal in swearing. So it was common for our Swabians to borrow some of these choice expressions when they got really mad. We children also picked up some Russian swearwords [from soldiers of the 'liberating' Red Army], but to Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian I was not exposed. Swabian expressions would be more like "verdammt!" [~ damnation] or Gottverdammt, sometimes followed by the name of and animal ["verdammter Hund!"] They would typically express frustration. A person could be called "Du Trottel" [you fool], "Du Idiot" or "Du Scheißkerl" [one online dictionary translates this as "you bastard" another as "you motherf--cker"]. Pretty bad, eh? Nick -----Original Message----- From: Rita Schiwanowitsch [mailto:schiwanore@msn.com] Sent: March 3, 2019 1:51 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i won’t repeat here. ;-). Please forgive my spelling errors. Rita Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - it > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom German's > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of what > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > Eve > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Lori, >> >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and >> not necessarily in german. >> >> Brigitte Zirger >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> >> Hey everyone, >> >> >> >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> >> >> >> Any memories out there? >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Lori Straus >> >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts >> / Memoir >> (519) 503-7098 >> Skype: lori.straus >> www.loristraus.com >> >> >> >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Francois is the French spelling which would be appropriate for Alsace and Lorraine. Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad > On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: > > Sorry Paul, but nothing listed for FRANZWA and BAHL. > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Frank [mailto:paulfrank@sasktel.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:57 AM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) > Importance: Low > > Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help. > > Paul Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] > Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. > Dan Walter > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Sorry Paul, but nothing listed for FRANZWA and BAHL. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Paul Frank [mailto:paulfrank@sasktel.net] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:57 AM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) Importance: Low Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help. Paul Frank -----Original Message----- From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. Dan Walter _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Frank, Could the original spelling of Franzwa have been François? Anne Dreer -----Original Message----- From: Paul Frank Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:57 AM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help. Paul Frank -----Original Message----- From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. Dan Walter _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Dan! If you could look up this man für me, it would be a big help! Anton Philipon, born around 1700, emigrated to Bela Crkva (Weißkirchen) Banat before 1727 Thank you very much! Daniela Am 02.03.19, 17:35 schrieb "Andrea & Dan Walter" unter <ajwdcw@windstream.net>: >I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' >emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle >1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. >Dan Walter > >-----Original Message----- >From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] >Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM >To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) >Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > >Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these >cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just ordered >a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio > >On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > >> Greetings to all List subscribers, >> I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I >> purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. >> Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs >> contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as >> some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed >>text >> and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry >>has >> been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein >>in >> Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that >> this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any >> lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I >> purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched >>and >> in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that >>the >> price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice >> was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no >> affiliation with the retailer or the author. >> >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >> >> >> >> | >> | >> | | >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >> >> >> | >> >> | >> >> | >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> RoyPickering, Ontario >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> >>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootswe >>b.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb >.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb >.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community

Sorry, there are no SUCHER entries in the book. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Walter Sucher [mailto:walter.sucher@t-online.de] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:00 AM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Hi Dan, thank you for your kind offer. Please look up my family name SUCHER - my ‚oldest‘ relative is a DOMINIK SUCHER who married in 1802 in Bela Crkva/Weisskirchen, Banat - he or his fathers immigrated from Alsace etc, that is all I ‚know‘... Thank you. Walter Sucher D 14050 Berlin > Am 02.03.2019 um 17:35 schrieb Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net>: > > I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. > Dan Walter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these > cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just ordered > a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > >> Greetings to all List subscribers, >> I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I >> purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. >> Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs >> contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as >> some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed text >> and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has >> been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in >> Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that >> this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any >> lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I >> purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and >> in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that the >> price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice >> was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no >> affiliation with the retailer or the author. >> >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >> >> >> >> | >> | >> | | >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >> >> >> | >> >> | >> >> | >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> RoyPickering, Ontario >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Walter! I can not help with Elsass, but with Bela Crkva. Dominik Sucher married Magdalena Klein on 16th Feb 1800. I could not find his birth in the records, but his best man at the wedding was Dominik Jeanplong, who had a whole bunch of godchildren, many named after him - Dominik. Liebe Grüße, Daniela Am 03.03.19, 13:59 schrieb "Walter Sucher" unter <walter.sucher@t-online.de>: >Hi Dan, > >thank you for your kind offer. > >Please look up my family name SUCHER - > >my ‚oldest‘ relative is a DOMINIK SUCHER who married in 1802 in Bela >Crkva/Weisskirchen, Banat - he or his fathers immigrated from Alsace etc, >that is all I ‚know‘... > >Thank you. > >Walter Sucher >D 14050 Berlin > >> Am 02.03.2019 um 17:35 schrieb Andrea & Dan Walter >><ajwdcw@windstream.net>: >> >> I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' >>emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle >>1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. >> Dan Walter >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM >> To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) >> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books >> >> Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea >>these >> cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just >>ordered >> a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio >> >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: >> >>> Greetings to all List subscribers, >>> I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I >>> purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by >>>Dr. >>> Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two >>>CDs >>> contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as >>> some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed >>>text >>> and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry >>>has >>> been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein >>>in >>> Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms >>>that >>> this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any >>> lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I >>> purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been >>>researched and >>> in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that >>>the >>> price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The >>>invoice >>> was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no >>> affiliation with the retailer or the author. >>> >>> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >>> >>> >>> >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >>> >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> | >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> RoyPickering, Ontario >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe >>> >>>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsw >>>eb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>> community >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootswe >>b.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >>https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootswe >>b.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>community >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb >.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community

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I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i won’t repeat here. ;-). Please forgive my spelling errors. Rita Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - it > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom German's > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of what > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > Eve > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Lori, >> >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and >> not necessarily in german. >> >> Brigitte Zirger >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> >> Hey everyone, >> >> >> >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> >> >> >> Any memories out there? >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Lori Straus >> >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts >> / Memoir >> (519) 503-7098 >> Skype: lori.straus >> www.loristraus.com >> >> >> >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community