They don't have to read the emails. On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 7:26 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, they are just words, but some people prefer not to hear or see them, > so just trying to be considerate of those that feel that way. I'm not > easily offended, but I'm not everyone. > > > Eve > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 8:24 PM Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> wrote: > > > FOLKS, PLEASE, WRITE THE WORDS. This is to help our friend with actual > > insults. I can write "kiss my ass" and my keyboard does not smoke and > burn. > > I can say "fuck your mother in the ass" and again, it's just words. > > > > Paul A. Thompson > > > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 7:21 PM Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Oh, come on, Roy - tell the truth. We're all adults here. We can talk > > > about "fuck" and "shit" and "vagina". This is about the correct words. > > > > > > There are a ton of you-tube videos about swear words. > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 4:27 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Lori, > > >> I was born in Canada, but grew up not only with my father, who was 18 > > >> years old when he arrived in Canada in 1952, but also with his parents > > and > > >> his grandmother. This is why I can speak the Schwowisch dialect. I > > also > > >> grew up hearing many expletives. Many of these came from my > > >> great-grandmother. The one that she reserved for the highest level of > > >> anger or frustration turns out to be a Serbian word that I only > learned > > the > > >> meaning of in recent years because a Serbian radiologist joined our > > >> hospital. It would be inappropriate for me to write the meaning of > the > > >> word in English, but suffice to say that the English word is a four > > letter > > >> word and it does not begin with "s". If I ever raised my voice to her > > she > > >> would say to me "Um ein Ton tiefer" (one level of volume lower). > Anger > > >> usually elicited "Kruzifix". The meaning is what you think it is. > It's > > >> funny that as a young child, I never made the connection to the > meaning > > of > > >> the word - I just knew that it meant that she was angry at me. My > last > > >> recollection is one that my grandparents often used when they were > > >> disagreeing with each other and one of them wanted to end the > > discussion. > > >> You must know that my father's family was Lutheran. The closing > > comment to > > >> end the argument was "Ach, mach mich doch net katholisch" (don't > drive > > me > > >> to Catholicism). I intend no offence to any List subscribers, but you > > must > > >> understand that my father's village of Kischker was entirely Lutheran. > > >> Best regards, > > >> Roy > > >> Pickering, Ontario > > >> On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 3:20:27 p.m. EST, Rose Vetter < > > >> rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or > > >> frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such > as > > >> "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still > > >> remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or > > >> frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, > > >> "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a > > strong > > >> emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). > > >> > > >> Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the > devil > > >> get > > >> him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) > nochmal. > > >> Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian > when > > in > > >> a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father > uttering > > >> one > > >> particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years > later > > >> about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." > > >> > > >> Rose > > >> > > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or > “Schei**e” > > or > > >> > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... > which > > i > > >> > won’t repeat here. ;-). > > >> > Please forgive my spelling errors. > > >> > > > >> > Rita > > >> > > > >> > Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > > >> > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and > > >> uncles - > > >> > it > > >> > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > > >> > German's > > >> > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to > > comparing > > >> > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the > bottom > > of > > >> > what > > >> > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing > > >> when I > > >> > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > > >> > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited > > Europe a > > >> > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to > > >> Serbia, I > > >> > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage > moments. > > >> > > > > >> > > Eve > > >> > > > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Hi Lori, > > >> > >> > > >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would > > not > > >> > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for > > that, > > >> and > > >> > >> not necessarily in german. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Brigitte Zirger > > >> > >> > > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > > >> > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > > >> > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > >> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Hey everyone, > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the > > >> list :) > > >> > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to > > express > > >> > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In > > >> Gottes > > >> > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I > > got > > >> > that > > >> > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they > > >> expressed > > >> > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Any memories out there? > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Regards, > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Lori Straus > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / > > Performing > > >> > Arts > > >> > >> / Memoir > > >> > >> (519) 503-7098 > > >> > >> Skype: lori.straus > > >> > >> www.loristraus.com > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > > Conditions: > > >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> RootsWeb > > >> > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > >> community > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> > >> Unsubscribe > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > > Conditions: > > >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > >> RootsWeb > > >> > >> community > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > >> > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> > > Unsubscribe > > >> > > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > > Conditions: > > >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > >> RootsWeb > > >> > community > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> > Unsubscribe > > >> > > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > > >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > > RootsWeb > > >> > community > > >> > > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> Unsubscribe > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > > >> community > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> Unsubscribe > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > > >> community > > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Yes, they are just words, but some people prefer not to hear or see them, so just trying to be considerate of those that feel that way. I'm not easily offended, but I'm not everyone. Eve On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 8:24 PM Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> wrote: > FOLKS, PLEASE, WRITE THE WORDS. This is to help our friend with actual > insults. I can write "kiss my ass" and my keyboard does not smoke and burn. > I can say "fuck your mother in the ass" and again, it's just words. > > Paul A. Thompson > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 7:21 PM Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Oh, come on, Roy - tell the truth. We're all adults here. We can talk > > about "fuck" and "shit" and "vagina". This is about the correct words. > > > > There are a ton of you-tube videos about swear words. > > > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 4:27 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi Lori, > >> I was born in Canada, but grew up not only with my father, who was 18 > >> years old when he arrived in Canada in 1952, but also with his parents > and > >> his grandmother. This is why I can speak the Schwowisch dialect. I > also > >> grew up hearing many expletives. Many of these came from my > >> great-grandmother. The one that she reserved for the highest level of > >> anger or frustration turns out to be a Serbian word that I only learned > the > >> meaning of in recent years because a Serbian radiologist joined our > >> hospital. It would be inappropriate for me to write the meaning of the > >> word in English, but suffice to say that the English word is a four > letter > >> word and it does not begin with "s". If I ever raised my voice to her > she > >> would say to me "Um ein Ton tiefer" (one level of volume lower). Anger > >> usually elicited "Kruzifix". The meaning is what you think it is. It's > >> funny that as a young child, I never made the connection to the meaning > of > >> the word - I just knew that it meant that she was angry at me. My last > >> recollection is one that my grandparents often used when they were > >> disagreeing with each other and one of them wanted to end the > discussion. > >> You must know that my father's family was Lutheran. The closing > comment to > >> end the argument was "Ach, mach mich doch net katholisch" (don't drive > me > >> to Catholicism). I intend no offence to any List subscribers, but you > must > >> understand that my father's village of Kischker was entirely Lutheran. > >> Best regards, > >> Roy > >> Pickering, Ontario > >> On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 3:20:27 p.m. EST, Rose Vetter < > >> rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or > >> frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as > >> "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still > >> remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or > >> frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, > >> "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a > strong > >> emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). > >> > >> Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil > >> get > >> him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. > >> Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when > in > >> a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering > >> one > >> particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later > >> about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." > >> > >> Rose > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com > >> wrote: > >> > >> > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” > or > >> > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which > i > >> > won’t repeat here. ;-). > >> > Please forgive my spelling errors. > >> > > >> > Rita > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone > >> > > >> > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and > >> uncles - > >> > it > >> > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > >> > German's > >> > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to > comparing > >> > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom > of > >> > what > >> > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing > >> when I > >> > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > >> > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited > Europe a > >> > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to > >> Serbia, I > >> > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > >> > > > >> > > Eve > >> > > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Lori, > >> > >> > >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would > not > >> > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for > that, > >> and > >> > >> not necessarily in german. > >> > >> > >> > >> Brigitte Zirger > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > >> > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > >> > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > >> > >> > >> > >> Hey everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the > >> list :) > >> > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to > express > >> > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In > >> Gottes > >> > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I > got > >> > that > >> > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they > >> expressed > >> > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Any memories out there? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Lori Straus > >> > >> > >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / > Performing > >> > Arts > >> > >> / Memoir > >> > >> (519) 503-7098 > >> > >> Skype: lori.straus > >> > >> www.loristraus.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > >> > >> > >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb > >> > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> > >> Unsubscribe > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > >> RootsWeb > >> > >> community > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > >> > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> > > Unsubscribe > >> > > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and > Conditions: > >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > >> RootsWeb > >> > community > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> > Unsubscribe > >> > > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > >> > community > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

FOLKS, PLEASE, WRITE THE WORDS. This is to help our friend with actual insults. I can write "kiss my ass" and my keyboard does not smoke and burn. I can say "fuck your mother in the ass" and again, it's just words. Paul A. Thompson On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 7:21 PM Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh, come on, Roy - tell the truth. We're all adults here. We can talk > about "fuck" and "shit" and "vagina". This is about the correct words. > > There are a ton of you-tube videos about swear words. > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 4:27 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > >> Hi Lori, >> I was born in Canada, but grew up not only with my father, who was 18 >> years old when he arrived in Canada in 1952, but also with his parents and >> his grandmother. This is why I can speak the Schwowisch dialect. I also >> grew up hearing many expletives. Many of these came from my >> great-grandmother. The one that she reserved for the highest level of >> anger or frustration turns out to be a Serbian word that I only learned the >> meaning of in recent years because a Serbian radiologist joined our >> hospital. It would be inappropriate for me to write the meaning of the >> word in English, but suffice to say that the English word is a four letter >> word and it does not begin with "s". If I ever raised my voice to her she >> would say to me "Um ein Ton tiefer" (one level of volume lower). Anger >> usually elicited "Kruzifix". The meaning is what you think it is. It's >> funny that as a young child, I never made the connection to the meaning of >> the word - I just knew that it meant that she was angry at me. My last >> recollection is one that my grandparents often used when they were >> disagreeing with each other and one of them wanted to end the discussion. >> You must know that my father's family was Lutheran. The closing comment to >> end the argument was "Ach, mach mich doch net katholisch" (don't drive me >> to Catholicism). I intend no offence to any List subscribers, but you must >> understand that my father's village of Kischker was entirely Lutheran. >> Best regards, >> Roy >> Pickering, Ontario >> On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 3:20:27 p.m. EST, Rose Vetter < >> rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or >> frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as >> "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still >> remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or >> frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, >> "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong >> emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). >> >> Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil >> get >> him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. >> Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in >> a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering >> one >> particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later >> about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." >> >> Rose >> >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com >> wrote: >> >> > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or >> > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i >> > won’t repeat here. ;-). >> > Please forgive my spelling errors. >> > >> > Rita >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and >> uncles - >> > it >> > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom >> > German's >> > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing >> > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of >> > what >> > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing >> when I >> > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it >> > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a >> > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to >> Serbia, I >> > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. >> > > >> > > Eve >> > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Hi Lori, >> > >> >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, >> and >> > >> not necessarily in german. >> > >> >> > >> Brigitte Zirger >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> > >> >> > >> Hey everyone, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the >> list :) >> > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In >> Gottes >> > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got >> > that >> > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they >> expressed >> > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Any memories out there? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Lori Straus >> > >> >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing >> > Arts >> > >> / Memoir >> > >> (519) 503-7098 >> > >> Skype: lori.straus >> > >> www.loristraus.com >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> > >> >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb >> > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > >> Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > >> community >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator >> > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> >

Oh, come on, Roy - tell the truth. We're all adults here. We can talk about "fuck" and "shit" and "vagina". This is about the correct words. There are a ton of you-tube videos about swear words. On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 4:27 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi Lori, > I was born in Canada, but grew up not only with my father, who was 18 > years old when he arrived in Canada in 1952, but also with his parents and > his grandmother. This is why I can speak the Schwowisch dialect. I also > grew up hearing many expletives. Many of these came from my > great-grandmother. The one that she reserved for the highest level of > anger or frustration turns out to be a Serbian word that I only learned the > meaning of in recent years because a Serbian radiologist joined our > hospital. It would be inappropriate for me to write the meaning of the > word in English, but suffice to say that the English word is a four letter > word and it does not begin with "s". If I ever raised my voice to her she > would say to me "Um ein Ton tiefer" (one level of volume lower). Anger > usually elicited "Kruzifix". The meaning is what you think it is. It's > funny that as a young child, I never made the connection to the meaning of > the word - I just knew that it meant that she was angry at me. My last > recollection is one that my grandparents often used when they were > disagreeing with each other and one of them wanted to end the discussion. > You must know that my father's family was Lutheran. The closing comment to > end the argument was "Ach, mach mich doch net katholisch" (don't drive me > to Catholicism). I intend no offence to any List subscribers, but you must > understand that my father's village of Kischker was entirely Lutheran. > Best regards, > Roy > Pickering, Ontario > On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 3:20:27 p.m. EST, Rose Vetter < > rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > > Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or > frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as > "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still > remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or > frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, > "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong > emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). > > Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil get > him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. > Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in > a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering one > particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later > about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." > > Rose > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com > wrote: > > > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or > > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i > > won’t repeat here. ;-). > > Please forgive my spelling errors. > > > > Rita > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles > - > > it > > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > > German's > > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of > > what > > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing > when I > > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, > I > > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > > > > > Eve > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Lori, > > >> > > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, > and > > >> not necessarily in german. > > >> > > >> Brigitte Zirger > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > > >> > > >> Hey everyone, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list > :) > > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In > Gottes > > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got > > that > > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they > expressed > > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Any memories out there? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Lori Straus > > >> > > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing > > Arts > > >> / Memoir > > >> (519) 503-7098 > > >> Skype: lori.straus > > >> www.loristraus.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member > > >> > > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb > > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > >> Unsubscribe > > >> > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb > > >> community > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Dan Walter, Thank you very much!To clarify this information, the child Catherine,  was born in Lorraine? Best wishesPetraSent from Samsung tablet. -------- Original message --------From: Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> Date: 4/3/19 11:22 am (GMT+10:00) To: "'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)'" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Mattern I have a Francois MATTERN in my Loraine book, with an unidentified wife, buta child Catharine, married to Jean-Claude SAUTREL in 1769.Dan Walter-----Original Message-----From: petra.leschinkohl [mailto:petra.leschinkohl@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 7:01 PMTo: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books MatternHello,Looking for any Mattern relatives, last known to be in Lothringen,Abbey de JustemontThank youPetraSent from Samsung tablet.null_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribehttps://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions:https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWebcommunity_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you. I’ll look into that. Marlene Sent from my iPad > On Mar 3, 2019, at 7:12 PM, AR <rittiaki@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just a coincidence, but I talked to a Metzger on geneanet.org a few weeks > ago. He had a Ferdinand Ritter from Elsass in his tree, but it wasn't the > person I was looking for. > Anyway, he said that he is researching for Metzgers around the world. He > has a massive family tree on the website, so it's worth checking that out. > Metzgers from Elsass! > His profile name is antoinemetzger. His profile is public, that's why I > dare to share his profile name. > > Akos A. Ritter > >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 00:00 Sherry Munyon <smunyon@capitolaccess.us> wrote: >> >> Marlene, >> I am writing to request a look-up for the surname Bambusch or Baumbusch in >> your Elsaß/Alsace Family Books. >> Thank you for you generosity in doing these look-ups >> Sherry Munyon >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < >> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:54 PM >> To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) < >> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: Marlene Norton <marlene_norton@yahoo.com> >> Subject: [DVHH] Re: >> >> Thank you. I never did put any stock in that story. It didn't make >> sense with the things I found but it was worth a try. >> Marlene >> On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 6:38:24 PM EST, Andrea & Dan Walter < >> ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: >> >> In the Loraine book that I have, there are no METZNER entries, but there >> are METZ, METZGER, and METZINGER entries. As for RIEDEL, there is nothing. >> Dan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto: >> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] >> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:01 PM >> To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) >> Cc: Marlene Norton >> Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books >> >> If I may join in this new find, there is a story in my family about >> someone coming from Alsace/Lorraine. Nothing to back it up but no harm in >> asking. Is there a Metzner or Riedel in the book? >> Thank you. Marlene Metzner >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Terry, thank you for this information. It pertains to Martin Franzwa and Katharina after they arrive in Apatin Hungary. I searched but found no links to Alsace. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Terry Schira [mailto:tbschira@hotmail.com] Sent: March-03-19 6:42 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] FRANZWA - Alsace There is a Martin Franzwa in Alsace on geneanet. You can set up a free account. Here's the link to Martin: https://gw.geneanet.org/billo59?n=franzwa&oc=&p=martin Have a good day. Terry Schira ps: for others that want to search geneanet, here is the main page link: https://en.geneanet.org/ [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-anima ted-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_s ource=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=li nk&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.c om Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have a Francois MATTERN in my Loraine book, with an unidentified wife, but a child Catharine, married to Jean-Claude SAUTREL in 1769. Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: petra.leschinkohl [mailto:petra.leschinkohl@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 7:01 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Mattern Hello,Looking for any Mattern relatives, last known to be in Lothringen, Abbey de JustemontThank youPetraSent from Samsung tablet. null _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.c om Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have one LUDWIG entry: Jean-Georges LUDWIG, b. 21 Aug 1718 in Bibiche, married to Elisabeth BARRE, b. 1698 in Rodlach, d. 30 Jan 1733 in Rodlach. He had another wife - Christine LOUIS, b. 23 Oct 1696 in Menskirch. They were married on 14 Apr 1733 in Bibiche. There were 5 children in the first marriage, and 7 children in the second marriage. I can provide names and birth dates if needed. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Marsha Koch [mailto:mkwkoch@outlook.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 6:58 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Seeing your response that there are METZGERS in your Lorraine book, would you mind also checking for the LUDWIG family? Thank you so much. Marsha Koch (descendant of Ludwig and nee Metzger families) On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 6:38:24 PM EST, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: In the Loraine book that I have, there are no METZNER entries, but there are METZ, METZGER, and METZINGER entries. As for RIEDEL, there is nothing. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:01 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Cc: Marlene Norton Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books If I may join in this new find, there is a story in my family about someone coming from Alsace/Lorraine. Nothing to back it up but no harm in asking. Is there a Metzner or Riedel in the book? Thank you. Marlene Metzner _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Just a coincidence, but I talked to a Metzger on geneanet.org a few weeks ago. He had a Ferdinand Ritter from Elsass in his tree, but it wasn't the person I was looking for. Anyway, he said that he is researching for Metzgers around the world. He has a massive family tree on the website, so it's worth checking that out. Metzgers from Elsass! His profile name is antoinemetzger. His profile is public, that's why I dare to share his profile name. Akos A. Ritter On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 00:00 Sherry Munyon <smunyon@capitolaccess.us> wrote: > Marlene, > I am writing to request a look-up for the surname Bambusch or Baumbusch in > your Elsaß/Alsace Family Books. > Thank you for you generosity in doing these look-ups > Sherry Munyon > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:54 PM > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Cc: Marlene Norton <marlene_norton@yahoo.com> > Subject: [DVHH] Re: > > Thank you. I never did put any stock in that story. It didn't make > sense with the things I found but it was worth a try. > Marlene > On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 6:38:24 PM EST, Andrea & Dan Walter < > ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: > > In the Loraine book that I have, there are no METZNER entries, but there > are METZ, METZGER, and METZINGER entries. As for RIEDEL, there is nothing. > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto: > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:01 PM > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Cc: Marlene Norton > Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > If I may join in this new find, there is a story in my family about > someone coming from Alsace/Lorraine. Nothing to back it up but no harm in > asking. Is there a Metzner or Riedel in the book? > Thank you. Marlene Metzner > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb > is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hello,Looking for any Mattern relatives, last known to be in Lothringen, Abbey de JustemontThank youPetraSent from Samsung tablet. null

There are no SEICHEPINE entries in the Loraine book, but I have a Catharine LAMBINET b. 29 Nov 1736 in Schweix, married to Mathieu NUSSBAUM in 1762. She has a brother Nicolas born 20 Sep 1742 in Schweix, married to Barbe WITZMANN on 1771. Parents are Gilles LAMBINET b. 25 Jun 1708 in Schweix, died 25 Jun 1762 in Schweix, with wife Catharine KLOCK, born 30 Nov 1715 in Hirbach, died 25 Nov 1749 in Schweix, with marriage of 15 Nov 1735 in Val de Gueblange. There are details for Nicolas if you are interested. Can't say how far back the families in this book go. I would contact the author at Charles.amann@sfr.fr Dan -----Original Message----- From: Nick Tullius [mailto:tvllivsn@bell.net] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:12 PM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Hello Dan, I have an Ursula Seichepine (*1725 in Steinbiedersdorf/ Pontpierre, Lorraine; +1785 in Bogrosch, Banat). I also have a Catherine Lambinet (*1736 in Geblingen /Le Val-de-Gueblange; +1813 in Bogrosch, Banat). Does Charles mention these in his book? How far back does the book follow their families? Thanks, Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] Sent: March 2, 2019 11:36 AM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just ordered a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > Greetings to all List subscribers, > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I > purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. > Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs > contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as > some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed text > and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has > been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in > Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that > this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any > lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I > purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and > in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that the > price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice > was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no > affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > | > | > | | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > | > > | > > | > > > > > Regards, > RoyPickering, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Marlene, I am writing to request a look-up for the surname Bambusch or Baumbusch in your Elsaß/Alsace Family Books. Thank you for you generosity in doing these look-ups Sherry Munyon -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:54 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Cc: Marlene Norton <marlene_norton@yahoo.com> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Thank you.  I never did put any stock in that story.  It didn't make sense with the things I found but it was worth a try. Marlene On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 6:38:24 PM EST, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: In the Loraine book that I have, there are no METZNER entries, but there are METZ, METZGER, and METZINGER entries. As for RIEDEL, there is nothing. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:01 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Cc: Marlene Norton Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books If I may join in this new find, there is a story in my family about someone coming from Alsace/Lorraine.  Nothing to back it up but  no harm in asking.  Is there a Metzner or Riedel in the book? Thank you.  Marlene Metzner     _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Seeing your response that there are METZGERS in your Lorraine book, would you mind also checking for the LUDWIG family? Thank you so much. Marsha Koch (descendant of Ludwig and nee Metzger families) On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 6:38:24 PM EST, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: In the Loraine book that I have, there are no METZNER entries, but there are METZ, METZGER, and METZINGER entries. As for RIEDEL, there is nothing. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:01 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Cc: Marlene Norton Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books If I may join in this new find, there is a story in my family about someone coming from Alsace/Lorraine.  Nothing to back it up but  no harm in asking.  Is there a Metzner or Riedel in the book? Thank you.  Marlene Metzner  

Thank you.  I never did put any stock in that story.  It didn't make sense with the things I found but it was worth a try. Marlene On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 6:38:24 PM EST, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: In the Loraine book that I have, there are no METZNER entries, but there are METZ, METZGER, and METZINGER entries. As for RIEDEL, there is nothing. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:01 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Cc: Marlene Norton Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books If I may join in this new find, there is a story in my family about someone coming from Alsace/Lorraine.  Nothing to back it up but  no harm in asking.  Is there a Metzner or Riedel in the book? Thank you.  Marlene Metzner     _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

In the Loraine book that I have, there are no METZNER entries, but there are METZ, METZGER, and METZINGER entries. As for RIEDEL, there is nothing. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:01 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Cc: Marlene Norton Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books If I may join in this new find, there is a story in my family about someone coming from Alsace/Lorraine. Nothing to back it up but no harm in asking. Is there a Metzner or Riedel in the book? Thank you. Marlene Metzner _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

There is a Martin Franzwa in Alsace on geneanet. You can set up a free account. Here's the link to Martin: https://gw.geneanet.org/billo59?n=franzwa&oc=&p=martin Have a good day. Terry Schira ps: for others that want to search geneanet, here is the main page link: https://en.geneanet.org/ [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link>

Catherine LAMBINET is born on 29 nov 1736 in Val-de-Gueblange. She married Mathieu NUSSBAUM on 3 dec 1762 in Puttelange-aux-Lacs Father = Gilles LAMBINET x 15 nov 1735 in Val-de-Gueblange Mother = Catherine KLOCK ________________________________ De : Nick Tullius <tvllivsn@bell.net> Envoyé : dimanche 3 mars 2019 22:12 À : 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Objet : [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Hello Dan, I have an Ursula Seichepine (*1725 in Steinbiedersdorf/ Pontpierre, Lorraine; +1785 in Bogrosch, Banat). I also have a Catherine Lambinet (*1736 in Geblingen /Le Val-de-Gueblange; +1813 in Bogrosch, Banat). Does Charles mention these in his book? How far back does the book follow their families? Thanks, Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] Sent: March 2, 2019 11:36 AM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just ordered a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > Greetings to all List subscribers, > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I > purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. > Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs > contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as > some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed text > and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has > been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in > Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that > this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any > lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I > purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and > in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that the > price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice > was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no > affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > | > | > | | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > | > > | > > | > > > > > Regards, > RoyPickering, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I just remembered probably the worst saying in German they used and it is a common one here also - which is "kiss my (you know what)" I know how to say it very well, but can't write it. After I married my husband who's mother's side is Hungarian I learned they use the same expression - imagine that :D Eve On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 5:25 PM Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > My understanding is that most Serbian swear words were aimed at ones > mother. I've been told but def. not sure that Serbian and Russian are > close as is Croatian. I only know how to count tell a little joke (which > translates to: 1, 2, 3 your a Jacka..) which I only recently found out the > last word wasn't "monkey" as I had thought and how to swear with the best > of them apparently. So I am def. not an expert. > > Eve > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:20 PM Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or >> frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as >> "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still >> remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or >> frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, >> "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong >> emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). >> >> Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil >> get >> him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. >> Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in >> a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering >> one >> particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later >> about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." >> >> Rose >> >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com >> wrote: >> >> > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or >> > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i >> > won’t repeat here. ;-). >> > Please forgive my spelling errors. >> > >> > Rita >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and >> uncles - >> > it >> > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom >> > German's >> > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing >> > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of >> > what >> > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing >> when I >> > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it >> > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a >> > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to >> Serbia, I >> > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. >> > > >> > > Eve >> > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Hi Lori, >> > >> >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, >> and >> > >> not necessarily in german. >> > >> >> > >> Brigitte Zirger >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> > >> >> > >> Hey everyone, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the >> list :) >> > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In >> Gottes >> > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got >> > that >> > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they >> expressed >> > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Any memories out there? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Lori Straus >> > >> >> > >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing >> > Arts >> > >> / Memoir >> > >> (519) 503-7098 >> > >> Skype: lori.straus >> > >> www.loristraus.com >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> > >> >> > >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb >> > >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > >> Unsubscribe >> > >> >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > >> community >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Syrmia Regional Coordinator >> > > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> > Unsubscribe >> > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> > community >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

________________________________ From: donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com <donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: March 3, 2019 3:49 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 12, Issue 89 Send DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES mailing list submissions to donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body subscribe to donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body unsubscribe to donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at donauschwaben-villages-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) (Mjm1021@comcast.net) 2. Re: Expressions of frustration? (Nick Tullius) 3. Re: Expressions of frustration? (Rose Vetter) 4. Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Andrea & Dan Walter) 5. Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) (Paul frank) 6. Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) (Paul frank) 7. Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) (Andrea & Dan Walter) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 15:00:55 -0500 From: "Mjm1021@comcast.net" <mjm1021@comcast.net> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) To: "Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5BDDAC72-FB56-472A-840B-7BC4B0EFBD60@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Francois is the French spelling which would be appropriate for Alsace and Lorraine. Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad > On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: > > Sorry Paul, but nothing listed for FRANZWA and BAHL. > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Frank [mailto:paulfrank@sasktel.net] > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:57 AM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books (Franzwa and Bahl) > Importance: Low > > Hello Dan, thank you for the offer. My ancestors came from one of the german speaking sections of Alsace and Lorraine. I have no town suggestions. I am looking for Martin Franzwa born approx.. 1744 and Katharina Bahl born approx.. 1742. I have no parent information. They married July 1, 1766 in Apatin. I have the Stader books volumes one and two but they did not help. I appreciate any help. > > Paul Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea & Dan Walter [mailto:ajwdcw@windstream.net] > Sent: March-02-19 12:36 PM > To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. > Dan Walter > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 15:09:30 -0500 From: Nick Tullius <tvllivsn@bell.net> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? To: "'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)'" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000601d4d1fd$0308b3a0$091a1ae0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It is true that when it comes to swearing, the Hungarians are world champions. In a single expression they could include the other person's mother, an animal, and God. The Rumanians would get the silver medal in swearing. So it was common for our Swabians to borrow some of these choice expressions when they got really mad. We children also picked up some Russian swearwords [from soldiers of the 'liberating' Red Army], but to Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian I was not exposed. Swabian expressions would be more like "verdammt!" [~ damnation] or Gottverdammt, sometimes followed by the name of and animal ["verdammter Hund!"] They would typically express frustration. A person could be called "Du Trottel" [you fool], "Du Idiot" or "Du Scheißkerl" [one online dictionary translates this as "you bastard" another as "you motherf--cker"]. Pretty bad, eh? Nick -----Original Message----- From: Rita Schiwanowitsch [mailto:schiwanore@msn.com] Sent: March 3, 2019 1:51 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i won’t repeat here. ;-). Please forgive my spelling errors. Rita Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - it > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom German's > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of what > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > Eve > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Lori, >> >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and >> not necessarily in german. >> >> Brigitte Zirger >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? >> >> Hey everyone, >> >> >> >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got that >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. >> >> >> >> Any memories out there? >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Lori Straus >> >> Writer, Editor, German-to-English Translator Technology / Performing Arts >> / Memoir >> (519) 503-7098 >> Skype: lori.straus >> www.loristraus.com<http://www.loristraus.com> >> >> >> >> Professional Writers’ Association of Canada, professional member >> >> Literary Translators’ Association of Canada, associate member >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb >> is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Syrmia Regional Coordinator > http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 12:20:02 -0800 From: Rose Vetter <rosevetter@gmail.com> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAMX1WxJGNd7JnmSZUqBDaW5+BPULwmkV6j0gsr5C9qOeBfYrOQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Our people were very pious and God-fearing and in their anger or frustration would usually invoke the help of God and the saints, such as "Himmel, Herrgott, Sakrament!" (heaven, God and sacrament!). I still remember an expression my grandmother used whenever she was shocked or frustrated. She would raise her folded hands up in the air and cry, "JesMa'ndJosef!" (a condensation of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, with a strong emphasis on the ufirst syllable, which sounded like a single word). Stronger expressionsì would be "D'r Teifl soll ihn hole" (Let the devil get him) or "Dunn'rwett'r nochamol!" (Donnerwetter = thunderstorm) nochmal. Women were not known to swear, whereas men would resort to Serbian when in a rage, which could be quite crude. I still remember my father uttering one particular Serbian phrase, and when I asked my older sister years later about the meaning, she replied, "You wouldn't want to know." Rose On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 10:50 AM Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com wrote: > I remember sayings like “Ach du Lieber” or “Verdampfte” or “Schei**e” or > “Blöde Kühe“ . For me the more crass one were in Hungarian.... which i > won’t repeat here. ;-). > Please forgive my spelling errors. > > Rita > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 3, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I heard the most when my parents played cards with my aunts and uncles - > it > > was extremely crass swearing but in Serbian - according to my mom > German's > > didn't swear - LOL and usually things were said in regard to comparing > > people to animals in German. Of course, I had to get to the bottom of > what > > the Serbian swearing was - my parents would just crack up laughing when I > > asked them what they were saying - I was very good a repeating it > > correctly. About 7-8 years ago I found out. When we visited Europe a > > couple of years ago and we took a road trip to from Austria to Serbia, I > > noticed my cousin saying those same words during road rage moments. > > > > Eve > > > >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 1:06 PM BZirger <BZirger@magma.ca> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Lori, > >> > >> That would be and expression of surprise or frustration. I would not > >> consider it swearing. There were other choice expressions for that, and > >> not necessarily in german. > >> > >> Brigitte Zirger > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Lori Straus [mailto:loristraus@loristraus.com] > >> Sent: March 3, 2019 11:06 AM > >> To: DVHH-L <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> Subject: [DVHH] Expressions of frustration? > >> > >> Hey everyone, > >> > >> > >> > >> Another question for the more “experienced” Donauschwaben on the list :) > >> What expressions did you or your parents/grandparents use to express > >> frustration? I remember my grandparents saying something like “In Gottes > >> Himmel nei!” to express amazement or surprise. (I don’t know if I got > that > >> right—I spelled that phonetically.) But I don’t know how they expressed > >> frustration, swearing or otherwise. > >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 15:25:45 -0500 From: "Andrea & Dan Walter" <ajwdcw@windstream.net> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books To: "'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands \(DVHH\)'" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001001d4d1ff$4881d180$d9857480$@windstream.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sorry Walter, but there are no SUCHER entries in the book. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Daniela Hieslmayr [mailto:daniela.hieslmayr@gmx.at] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 2:05 PM To: DVHH Mail List Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Hello Walter! I can not help with Elsass, but with Bela Crkva. Dominik Sucher married Magdalena Klein on 16th Feb 1800. I could not find his birth in the records, but his best man at the wedding was Dominik Jeanplong, who had a whole bunch of godchildren, many named after him - Dominik. Liebe Grüße, Daniela Am 03.03.19, 13:59 schrieb "Walter Sucher" unter <walter.sucher@t-online.de>: >Hi Dan, > >thank you for your kind offer. > >Please look up my family name SUCHER - > >my ‚oldest‘ relative is a DOMINIK SUCHER who married in 1802 in Bela >Crkva/Weisskirchen, Banat - he or his fathers immigrated from Alsace etc, >that is all I ‚know‘... > >Thank you. > >Walter Sucher >D 14050 Berlin [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link>