Hi Dan, Could you please do a look up in the Charles Amann book "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803" for my ancestor Adam Gajer? He was supposedly born in Lorraine in 1784 and emigrated to Klek and then to Deutsch-Etschka. If he's not in there could you please check if there are any other Gajer listed? Thank you for your time, Helga Holoubek (maiden name Trettenbach) On ‎Saturday‎, ‎March‎ ‎2‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎35‎:‎52‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PST, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. Dan Walter On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > Greetings to all List subscribers, > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I > purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany.  The research was done by Dr. > Gerhard Hein.  It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß".  The two CDs > contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as > some in Lothringen/Lorraine.  The data has been transcribed into typed text > and is in German (not photocopied church records).  My Engel ancestry has > been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in > Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre).  Dr. Hein's research confirms that > this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any > lookups done on these CDs.  Here is a link to the website from which I > purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and > in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies.  You will see that the > price is 47.95 Euros.  I received the CDs within two weeks.  The invoice > was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal.  I have no > affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > | > | > |  | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > >  | > >  | > >  | > > > > > Regards, > RoyPickering, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I purchased my copy from the author, Charles Amann. His email address is Charles.amann@sfr.fr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Christian Tauss [mailto:christiantauss@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:02 AM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Hello Dan, I'm interested in getting the book emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803 ". It is possible to have it for ebook or you can inform me how to get it. thanks for your help, Christian Tauss El sáb., 2 mar. 2019 a las 13:35, Andrea & Dan Walter (< ajwdcw@windstream.net>) escribió: > I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' > emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle > 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. > Dan Walter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these > cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just ordered > a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > > > Greetings to all List subscribers, > > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I > > purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. > > Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs > > contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as > > some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed > text > > and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has > > been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in > > Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that > > this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any > > lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I > > purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched > and > > in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that > the > > price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice > > was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no > > affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > > > > > | > > | > > | | > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > RoyPickering, Ontario > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Tauss, Christian Mario. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Dan, I'm interested in getting the book emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle 1750-1803 ". It is possible to have it for ebook or you can inform me how to get it. thanks for your help, Christian Tauss El sáb., 2 mar. 2019 a las 13:35, Andrea & Dan Walter (< ajwdcw@windstream.net>) escribió: > I am in possession of a book complied by Charles Amann titled "L' > emigration des lorrains vers le Banat et la Batschka au 18eme siècle > 1750-1803". I would be glad to perform look-ups from this book as well. > Dan Walter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Adams [mailto:linadams210@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 6:54 AM > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) > Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > Thank you so much for sharing this information, Roy! I had no idea these > cds were available, but thanks to the info you provided, I've just ordered > a set. Have a good weekend! Lin Adams, Ohio > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 8:55 PM Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > > > Greetings to all List subscribers, > > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I > > purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. > > Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs > > contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as > > some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed > text > > and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has > > been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in > > Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that > > this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any > > lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I > > purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched > and > > in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that > the > > price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice > > was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no > > affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > > > > > | > > | > > | | > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > RoyPickering, Ontario > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Tauss, Christian Mario.

Hi Roy, I’m hoping to find information on my ancestor Johann Bischoff (born 1728+\-). He emigrated from Saarlouis to Jarek. Thank you kindly for your time. -Jaime Bischoff Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > > Greetings List subscribers, > Since I posted my message offering lookups on the CDs titled: Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß, I have already received a few requests and am doing my best to address these as quickly as time permits. I have responded to a few people in private emails, so the rest of you haven't seen these messages. It has always been encouraged that we post the results of any such lookups to the List for everyone to see for a few reasons. First of all, if a request is posted for everyone to see and the response is done in private, it may appear that the request has not been followed up on. If we post a successful lookup for all to see, we reinforce the fact that this forum has a large number of people with extensive resources and that the process is working. This makes us feel good that we are helping others and it then encourages everyone to seek help from one other. The third reason is that by posting a lookup result, there is always the chance that a third party in our group identifies a connection with that ancestor and we end up with a fortuitous connection between List subscribers. That's an even better outcome!The lookups that I have done so far on these two CDs have unfortunately not been much help for these subscribers. The reason for this is that it is important that you know that the data contained on these CDs is not exhaustive. When Dr. Hein undertook this project quite a number of years ago, it started off as a purely personal search for ancestors. It then evolved into a broader project because apparently once he was on a roll, he couldn't stop. I am unaware of the number of villages in Elsaß/Lothringen from which all of our ancestors came from, but the data on the CDs covers just under 100. I believe that there are many more than this. Most of our ancestors that came from this region probably came from predominantly German-speaking ones, but certainly some must have come from some that had a significant French-speaking population. Those cities and villages would not be part of this database.The other thing that I want to mention is that doing lookups on these CDs is far easier if a village can be identified. I know that this is not always possible to provide. Since yesterday, I have figured out how to navigate the data using the name index, but if there are a lot of entries from numerous villages, I have to search each one individually and this takes time because it often involves switching the disks. The original data was typed onto paper pages and these have been digitized and put on the CDs in order by village, so you have to do a lot of scrolling through pages. I will do all the lookups that you send to me, but please be patient and I will be posting results to the List. I hope that I can be a help to as many people as possible.Finally, some of you are interested in purchasing copies of the CDs for yourself. A couple of points need to be identified. First of all, the website is not secure, so this is why you cannot pay for them up front with a credit card. An invoice is shipped with the CDs and the best way to pay for them is with PayPal. This worked easily for me. Secondly, the website is in German only. If you cannot follow the ordering steps in German, you will have difficulty. I offer my assistance to any who might need this. I have already done this in one case. Finally, as I mentioned yesterday, I have no affiliation with the author or the vendor of the disks and receive no remuneration from any sales. > Kindest regards, > Roy Engel > Pickering, Ontario

Hi Diane. I have the Deutschbentschek family books. Yes, Johann Till (b. 1814 in Jmt; d. 1872 in DBentschek) is in the book. He married Therisea Grieszer in 1843, and 12 children are listed. Also info on Johann's brother and his family. Says Johann's parents were Nikolaus Till & Elisabeth Natl, recorded in the Jmt. church book. Let me know if you want any of the other information on his family! Jane Moore http://dvhh.org/deutschbentschek/ ________________________________ From: diane heisig <heisig@nc.rr.com> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 11:34 AM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Cc: ddreyer@pacbell.net Subject: [DVHH] Johan Till lookup I’m hoping someone can help me find more specific information about my Second Great grandfather. The information given to me by family indicates Johan Till was born in 1815 in Gyarmata, and dies in 1870 or 1871 in Deutsch Bencsek. He married Teressia Griszer 1824 - 28 August 1896). I would appreciate any additional information about his parents. Do parents of this Johan Till appear in the 18th Century migration from Lorraine to the Banat-Batschka by C Amann? Thank you, Diane Till Heisig _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cecc7dcb70abd416e600008d6a0d4bbb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636873232873445649&amp;sdata=9GnCnZwLJJfzQ8gqasel2VefJcDQzdfWBTnQco9Gp4U%3D&amp;reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fdonauschwaben-villages%40rootsweb.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cecc7dcb70abd416e600008d6a0d4bbb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636873232873445649&amp;sdata=cQxLgEAzmTiRlD2%2BIOiK6AphLyCxUsPiV5FXxLNzFzY%3D&amp;reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cecc7dcb70abd416e600008d6a0d4bbb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636873232873445649&amp;sdata=1dJqOK%2B287KP617FkQEYmtVnfCdWK6t8pqAeyAnOw3A%3D&amp;reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cecc7dcb70abd416e600008d6a0d4bbb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636873232873455648&amp;sdata=zCSN0BNtLMHpXBnaBANUkQLfV6vXnkXT9CV15SZ%2B4gE%3D&amp;reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cecc7dcb70abd416e600008d6a0d4bbb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636873232873455648&amp;sdata=mKkjkAfSourWrXhpL0V8R7x21pGxwPQUxXNJUyZ6eUk%3D&amp;reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

No, there are no TILL names in Charles Amann's Loraine book. Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: diane heisig [mailto:heisig@nc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 1:34 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Cc: ddreyer@pacbell.net Subject: [DVHH] Johan Till lookup I’m hoping someone can help me find more specific information about my Second Great grandfather. The information given to me by family indicates Johan Till was born in 1815 in Gyarmata, and dies in 1870 or 1871 in Deutsch Bencsek. He married Teressia Griszer 1824 - 28 August 1896). I would appreciate any additional information about his parents. Do parents of this Johan Till appear in the 18th Century migration from Lorraine to the Banat-Batschka by C Amann? Thank you, Diane Till Heisig _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi, Thanks for the response. The earliest information we have is of my great Grandfather Karl Steinmetz born in Sajkas Sentivan, Near Neusatz, in 1874. Karl -----Original Message----- From: Andrea & Dan Walter Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 4:34 PM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Lothringen Lookups Karl, I have a Wilhelm STEINMETZ in my Neuwerbass Lutheran Church records. Neuwerbass was in the Batschka region in what was part of Austria-Hungary before the end of WWI. He has a father Heinrich, and married Sophia URBAN on 20 May 1850. Two children are listed - Heinrich b. 9 Mar 1851, and Christina b. in 1861, marrying Ludwig KLEIN on 15 Feb 1880. There are numerous STEINMETZ entries is this Lutheran book, and a few in my Reformed Church records from Neuwerbass. Hope this helps. I can forward other STEINMETZ information if this seems a match. Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: Karl Steinmetz [mailto:markarst@nc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 9:48 AM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Lothringen Lookups Hi, I am interested in the Steinmetz Family that most likely came from the region during the 3rd migration. I do not have much information but family history and DNA seems to agree. They were Lutherans and the most common male name was Wilhelm and Karl and no village was ever mentioned. Please check to see if there was a concentration of Steinmetzs in one village or another, or if the were scattered. NO HURRY. Thanks. Karl -----Original Message----- From: Roy Engel Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:47 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Lothringen Lookups Greetings List subscribers, Since I posted my message offering lookups on the CDs titled: Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß, I have already received a few requests and am doing my best to address these as quickly as time permits. I have responded to a few people in private emails, so the rest of you haven't seen these messages. It has always been encouraged that we post the results of any such lookups to the List for everyone to see for a few reasons. First of all, if a request is posted for everyone to see and the response is done in private, it may appear that the request has not been followed up on. If we post a successful lookup for all to see, we reinforce the fact that this forum has a large number of people with extensive resources and that the process is working. This makes us feel good that we are helping others and it then encourages everyone to seek help from one other. The third reason is that by posting a lookup result, there is always the chance that a third party in our group identifies a connection with that ancestor and we end up with a fortuitous connection between List subscribers. That's an even better outcome!The lookups that I have done so far on these two CDs have unfortunately not been much help for these subscribers. The reason for this is that it is important that you know that the data contained on these CDs is not exhaustive. When Dr. Hein undertook this project quite a number of years ago, it started off as a purely personal search for ancestors. It then evolved into a broader project because apparently once he was on a roll, he couldn't stop. I am unaware of the number of villages in Elsaß/Lothringen from which all of our ancestors came from, but the data on the CDs covers just under 100. I believe that there are many more than this. Most of our ancestors that came from this region probably came from predominantly German-speaking ones, but certainly some must have come from some that had a significant French-speaking population. Those cities and villages would not be part of this database.The other thing that I want to mention is that doing lookups on these CDs is far easier if a village can be identified. I know that this is not always possible to provide. Since yesterday, I have figured out how to navigate the data using the name index, but if there are a lot of entries from numerous villages, I have to search each one individually and this takes time because it often involves switching the disks. The original data was typed onto paper pages and these have been digitized and put on the CDs in order by village, so you have to do a lot of scrolling through pages. I will do all the lookups that you send to me, but please be patient and I will be posting results to the List. I hope that I can be a help to as many people as possible.Finally, some of you are interested in purchasing copies of the CDs for yourself. A couple of points need to be identified. First of all, the website is not secure, so this is why you cannot pay for them up front with a credit card. An invoice is shipped with the CDs and the best way to pay for them is with PayPal. This worked easily for me. Secondly, the website is in German only. If you cannot follow the ordering steps in German, you will have difficulty. I offer my assistance to any who might need this. I have already done this in one case. Finally, as I mentioned yesterday, I have no affiliation with the author or the vendor of the disks and receive no remuneration from any sales. Kindest regards, Roy Engel Pickering, Ontario _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Roy, Would you please look up an ancestor of mine? Salome Clement(also spelled Clemann, Kleemann or Clemen in various records) *1771 Werningen bei Metz (currently Verny, France). Father: Georg Kleeman, mother unknown. Married Johann Hoffmann 05.07.1790 in Mettnich. + 09.08.1836 in Mettnich. Mettnich records describe her as a midwife. From the FB Primstal and church metric books Salome married Johannes Hoffmann, my 3rd Great Grandfather from Mettnich (currently Primstal) in the Saarland. This is all we know about Salome, even the folks from Primstal that have recompiled the local FB have not been able to uncover more. We would all benefit from anything you might find about Salome, her early life and her family in Werningen bei Metz. Thanks. Ray Basch Gesendet mit mein iPhone > On Mar 4, 2019, at 10:20, Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > > Hi Darlene, > Go to the website: Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop > > Genealogie-Service.de GmbH: Ihr Fachhandel rund um das Thema Ahnenforschung. Als Verlag und Buchhandlung bieten ... > | > > | > > | > > > > > In the search field on the left (Suche), enter "Krummes Elsass" and click "Go" > The only result that comes up is the one for theses CDs. Click on the title "Familienbücher Krummes Elsass" and you will see the list of villages that are on these CDs. > Roy Engel > On Monday, March 4, 2019, 10:47:46 a.m. EST, <darlene@mobsinc1.com> wrote: > > ​Thank you. What is the link to see the list of villages? > > Darlene Berresford > Medical Office Billing Systems, Inc. > 526 S. Main Street, Ste. 601c > Akron, Ohio 44311 > (330) 434-0787 > (877) 645-8788 > (330) 434-0940 fax​ > > >> On Sat, 03/02/2019 05:27 PM, Rhonda Staudt <ref58@verizon.net> wrote: >> > Roy could you tell me if the Friedl surname comes up in your records? My grandfather's description of where his family came from sounded like Alsace. The last name I have this family is in the Mercydorf book, but was told by family Sigismund Friedl would be the one who decided to come to Hungary with his family. >> Thank you in advance for any assistance you might be able to give. >> Rhonda Friedl Staudt >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> >> To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Fri, Mar 1, 2019 8:55 pm >> Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books >> >> Greetings to all List subscribers, >> I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany. The research was done by Dr. Gerhard Hein. It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß". The two CDs contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as some in Lothringen/Lorraine. The data has been transcribed into typed text and is in German (not photocopied church records). My Engel ancestry has been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre). Dr. Hein's research confirms that this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any lookups done on these CDs. Here is a link to the website from which I purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies. You will see that the price is 47.95 Euros. I received the CDs within two weeks. The invoice was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal. I have no affiliation with the retailer or the author. >> >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >> >> >> >> | >> | >> | | >> Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass >> >> >> | >> >> | >> >> | >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> RoyPickering, Ontario >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Karl, I have a Wilhelm STEINMETZ in my Neuwerbass Lutheran Church records. Neuwerbass was in the Batschka region in what was part of Austria-Hungary before the end of WWI. He has a father Heinrich, and married Sophia URBAN on 20 May 1850. Two children are listed - Heinrich b. 9 Mar 1851, and Christina b. in 1861, marrying Ludwig KLEIN on 15 Feb 1880. There are numerous STEINMETZ entries is this Lutheran book, and a few in my Reformed Church records from Neuwerbass. Hope this helps. I can forward other STEINMETZ information if this seems a match. Dan Walter -----Original Message----- From: Karl Steinmetz [mailto:markarst@nc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 9:48 AM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Lothringen Lookups Hi, I am interested in the Steinmetz Family that most likely came from the region during the 3rd migration. I do not have much information but family history and DNA seems to agree. They were Lutherans and the most common male name was Wilhelm and Karl and no village was ever mentioned. Please check to see if there was a concentration of Steinmetzs in one village or another, or if the were scattered. NO HURRY. Thanks. Karl -----Original Message----- From: Roy Engel Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:47 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Lothringen Lookups Greetings List subscribers, Since I posted my message offering lookups on the CDs titled: Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß, I have already received a few requests and am doing my best to address these as quickly as time permits. I have responded to a few people in private emails, so the rest of you haven't seen these messages. It has always been encouraged that we post the results of any such lookups to the List for everyone to see for a few reasons. First of all, if a request is posted for everyone to see and the response is done in private, it may appear that the request has not been followed up on. If we post a successful lookup for all to see, we reinforce the fact that this forum has a large number of people with extensive resources and that the process is working. This makes us feel good that we are helping others and it then encourages everyone to seek help from one other. The third reason is that by posting a lookup result, there is always the chance that a third party in our group identifies a connection with that ancestor and we end up with a fortuitous connection between List subscribers. That's an even better outcome!The lookups that I have done so far on these two CDs have unfortunately not been much help for these subscribers. The reason for this is that it is important that you know that the data contained on these CDs is not exhaustive. When Dr. Hein undertook this project quite a number of years ago, it started off as a purely personal search for ancestors. It then evolved into a broader project because apparently once he was on a roll, he couldn't stop. I am unaware of the number of villages in Elsaß/Lothringen from which all of our ancestors came from, but the data on the CDs covers just under 100. I believe that there are many more than this. Most of our ancestors that came from this region probably came from predominantly German-speaking ones, but certainly some must have come from some that had a significant French-speaking population. Those cities and villages would not be part of this database.The other thing that I want to mention is that doing lookups on these CDs is far easier if a village can be identified. I know that this is not always possible to provide. Since yesterday, I have figured out how to navigate the data using the name index, but if there are a lot of entries from numerous villages, I have to search each one individually and this takes time because it often involves switching the disks. The original data was typed onto paper pages and these have been digitized and put on the CDs in order by village, so you have to do a lot of scrolling through pages. I will do all the lookups that you send to me, but please be patient and I will be posting results to the List. I hope that I can be a help to as many people as possible.Finally, some of you are interested in purchasing copies of the CDs for yourself. A couple of points need to be identified. First of all, the website is not secure, so this is why you cannot pay for them up front with a credit card. An invoice is shipped with the CDs and the best way to pay for them is with PayPal. This worked easily for me. Secondly, the website is in German only. If you cannot follow the ordering steps in German, you will have difficulty. I offer my assistance to any who might need this. I have already done this in one case. Finally, as I mentioned yesterday, I have no affiliation with the author or the vendor of the disks and receive no remuneration from any sales. 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Darlene, can you also unsubscribe me? I have not been able to do it. Thanks, Marty Schuj mdschuj@aol.com Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Monday, March 4, 2019, Darlene Dimitrie <darlene.lists@cogeco.ca> wrote: First, Michael, I have unsubscribed you.  We look forward to having you return. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Secondly, To subscribe or unsubscribe, please read the instructions at:   http://www.dvhh.org/community/mail-list.html Scroll down to the sections labelled in blue which say Subscribing or Unsubscribing. Another way to subscribe or unsubscribe is to email donauschwaben-villages-admin@rootsweb.com  and one of the administrators will do it for you. An alternative if reducing the number of emails is your purpose, is to switch over to the Digest edition which sends you an email at least once a day or when approximately 9-10 emails accumulate.  This reduces the number of emails you get significantly. The link at the bottom of all our posts comes from Rootsweb and will only work if you have a Rootsweb login and password. Not everyone has one, as this is optional and only became available last March when the new software was introduced.  These links at the bottom cannot be changed by our administrators. ------- Darlene DVHH Mailing List Administrator   On 04-Mar-2019 12:50 PM, Michael Polsinelli wrote: > Hi can you unsubscribe me as well for the time being.  Once I am able to, I > will ask to sign on again.  Thanks. > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 11:11 AM Darlene Dimitrie < > dvhhemail.darlene@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Forwarded for Charles Amann >> (Original email in HTML) >> Darlene >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "amann.charles1@gmail.com" <amann.charles1@gmail.com> >> To: "Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)" < >> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 16:59:30 +0100 >> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? >> H‌ELLO >> As you know all these expressions are not german >> German is a new language , about from 1578 >> >> all these expressions are Rheinfränkisch , the Carolus Magnus (Charlemagne) >> language (800 AD) >> this was also the language of the people from Lorraine who went to the >> Banat >> not the french Lorraine people (south Moselle et Meurthe & Moselle) >> >> *Charles* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

First, Michael, I have unsubscribed you.  We look forward to having you return. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Secondly, To subscribe or unsubscribe, please read the instructions at:   http://www.dvhh.org/community/mail-list.html Scroll down to the sections labelled in blue which say Subscribing or Unsubscribing. Another way to subscribe or unsubscribe is to email donauschwaben-villages-admin@rootsweb.com  and one of the administrators will do it for you. An alternative if reducing the number of emails is your purpose, is to switch over to the Digest edition which sends you an email at least once a day or when approximately 9-10 emails accumulate.  This reduces the number of emails you get significantly. The link at the bottom of all our posts comes from Rootsweb and will only work if you have a Rootsweb login and password. Not everyone has one, as this is optional and only became available last March when the new software was introduced.  These links at the bottom cannot be changed by our administrators. ------- Darlene DVHH Mailing List Administrator On 04-Mar-2019 12:50 PM, Michael Polsinelli wrote: > Hi can you unsubscribe me as well for the time being. Once I am able to, I > will ask to sign on again. Thanks. > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 11:11 AM Darlene Dimitrie < > dvhhemail.darlene@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Forwarded for Charles Amann >> (Original email in HTML) >> Darlene >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "amann.charles1@gmail.com" <amann.charles1@gmail.com> >> To: "Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)" < >> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 16:59:30 +0100 >> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? >> H‌ELLO >> As you know all these expressions are not german >> German is a new language , about from 1578 >> >> all these expressions are Rheinfränkisch , the Carolus Magnus (Charlemagne) >> language (800 AD) >> this was also the language of the people from Lorraine who went to the >> Banat >> not the french Lorraine people (south Moselle et Meurthe & Moselle) >> >> *Charles* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I’m hoping someone can help me find more specific information about my Second Great grandfather. The information given to me by family indicates Johan Till was born in 1815 in Gyarmata, and dies in 1870 or 1871 in Deutsch Bencsek. He married Teressia Griszer 1824 - 28 August 1896). I would appreciate any additional information about his parents. Do parents of this Johan Till appear in the 18th Century migration from Lorraine to the Banat-Batschka by C Amann? Thank you, Diane Till Heisig

Hi Darlene, Go to the website:  Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop | | | | | | | | | | | Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop Genealogie-Service.de GmbH: Ihr Fachhandel rund um das Thema Ahnenforschung. Als Verlag und Buchhandlung bieten ... | | | In the search field on the left (Suche), enter "Krummes Elsass" and click "Go" The only result that comes up is the one for theses CDs.  Click on the title "Familienbücher Krummes Elsass" and you will see the list of villages that are on these CDs. Roy Engel On Monday, March 4, 2019, 10:47:46 a.m. EST, <darlene@mobsinc1.com> wrote: ​Thank you.  What is the link to see the list of villages? Darlene Berresford Medical Office Billing Systems, Inc. 526 S. Main Street, Ste. 601c Akron, Ohio  44311 (330) 434-0787 (877) 645-8788 (330) 434-0940 fax​ On Sat, 03/02/2019 05:27 PM, Rhonda Staudt <ref58@verizon.net> wrote: > Roy could you tell me if the Friedl surname comes up in your records?  My grandfather's description of where his family came from sounded like Alsace.  The last name I have this family is in the Mercydorf book, but was told by family Sigismund Friedl would be the one who decided to come to Hungary with his family. > Thank you in advance for any assistance you might be able to give. > Rhonda Friedl Staudt > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> > To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Mar 1, 2019 8:55 pm > Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books > > Greetings to all List subscribers, > I recently received a double CD of Elsaß/Alsace family books, which I purchased from Genealogie Shop in Germany.  The research was done by Dr. Gerhard Hein.  It is titled "Familienbücher Krummes Elsaß".  The two CDs contain records from virtually every village in Elsaß/Alsace as well as some in Lothringen/Lorraine.  The data has been transcribed into typed text and is in German (not photocopied church records).  My Engel ancestry has been reported in various sources to be from the village of Lützelstein in Alsace (now called La Petite Pierre).  Dr. Hein's research confirms that this is correct.I am offering my time to anyone who wishes to have any lookups done on these CDs.  Here is a link to the website from which I purchased the CDs since it lists the villages that have been researched and in case anyone wishes to purchase their own copies.  You will see that the price is 47.95 Euros.  I received the CDs within two weeks.  The invoice was included with the shipment and I paid with PayPal.  I have no affiliation with the retailer or the author. > > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > > > | > | > |  | > Ahnenforschung / Genealogie-Shop - Familienb�cher Krummes Elsass > > >  | > >  | > >  | > > > > > Regards, > RoyPickering, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

> On March 4, 2019 at 10:03 AM Joseph Martin <illinoisgenie@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Listers, > > At present I need to take a break from this mailing list to focus on my > newly found Wales ancestors' research. > > Could someone please advise how I can unsubscribe from this list. > > Thank you. > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi can you unsubscribe me as well for the time being. Once I am able to, I will ask to sign on again. Thanks. On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 11:11 AM Darlene Dimitrie < dvhhemail.darlene@gmail.com> wrote: > Forwarded for Charles Amann > (Original email in HTML) > Darlene > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "amann.charles1@gmail.com" <amann.charles1@gmail.com> > To: "Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)" < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 16:59:30 +0100 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Re: Expressions of frustration? > H‌ELLO > As you know all these expressions are not german > German is a new language , about from 1578 > > all these expressions are Rheinfränkisch , the Carolus Magnus (Charlemagne) > language (800 AD) > this was also the language of the people from Lorraine who went to the > Banat > not the french Lorraine people (south Moselle et Meurthe & Moselle) > > *Charles* > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thank you, Dan. The earliest relation I have found is Johannes Ludwig b 1770. While it is possible this may be a relation, I don't know for sure. Were any of the children named Johannes? The only reference my grandfather made to where they immigrated from was Alsace Lorraine (no village name). Marsha -----Original Message----- From: Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 6:17 PM To: 'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)' <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books I have one LUDWIG entry: Jean-Georges LUDWIG, b. 21 Aug 1718 in Bibiche, married to Elisabeth BARRE, b. 1698 in Rodlach, d. 30 Jan 1733 in Rodlach. He had another wife - Christine LOUIS, b. 23 Oct 1696 in Menskirch. They were married on 14 Apr 1733 in Bibiche. There were 5 children in the first marriage, and 7 children in the second marriage. I can provide names and birth dates if needed. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Marsha Koch [mailto:mkwkoch@outlook.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 6:58 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Elsaß/Alsace Family Books Seeing your response that there are METZGERS in your Lorraine book, would you mind also checking for the LUDWIG family? Thank you so much. Marsha Koch (descendant of Ludwig and nee Metzger families) On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 6:38:24 PM EST, Andrea & Dan Walter <ajwdcw@windstream.net> wrote: In the Loraine book that I have, there are no METZNER entries, but there are METZ, METZGER, and METZINGER entries. As for RIEDEL, there is nothing. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Norton via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES [mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 5:01 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Cc: Marlene Norton Subject: [DVHH] Elsaß/Alsace Family Books If I may join in this new find, there is a story in my family about someone coming from Alsace/Lorraine. Nothing to back it up but no harm in asking. Is there a Metzner or Riedel in the book? Thank you. 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Hi, this was a colateral find in search of my own ancestors. I wrote this article for my late father's 1st cousin who is also a Franzwa-Bahl descendent. I an sending the article to your email address. By the way, I have Frank from Apatin. Regards Gabriela  Gesendet: Montag, 04. März 2019 um 16:23 Uhr Von: "Paul Frank" <paulfrank@sasktel.net> An: "'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)'" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Betreff: [DVHH] Re: FRANZWA - Alsace Hello Gabriela. Thank you for this information, it is a breakthrough a stone wall. I was successful in locating the birth record. I am curious. Why were you searching for the Francois information? Would you have a copy of the article? I did search for the web-site and article on the internet however I was unable to find it. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Gabriela Schmitutz-Krause [mailto:dennimom@gmx.de] Sent: March-04-19 2:43 AM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Re: FRANZWA - Alsace Hello Paul, Your Johann Martin Franzwa was born in Durrenbach, Alsace on July 2, 1744. The names in the church book are Francois, Fransoa, Fransua. Parents Martin Francois and Anna Maria Heim. I found him many years before and there is also an article about him and other Apatin people from that region in Donauschwäbische Forschungsblätter, in German. Here are he church books: http://archives.bas-rhin.fr/registres-paroissiaux-et-documents-d-etat-civil/ETAT-CIVIL-C110#search-results Regards Gabriela Gesendet: Montag, 04. März 2019 um 01:24 Uhr Von: "Paul Frank" <paulfrank@sasktel.net> An: "'Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)'" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Betreff: [DVHH] Re: FRANZWA - Alsace Hello Terry, thank you for this information. It pertains to Martin Franzwa and Katharina after they arrive in Apatin Hungary. I searched but found no links to Alsace. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Terry Schira [mailto:tbschira@hotmail.com] Sent: March-03-19 6:42 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] FRANZWA - Alsace There is a Martin Franzwa in Alsace on geneanet. You can set up a free account. Here's the link to Martin: https://gw.geneanet.org/billo59?n=franzwa&oc=&p=martin[https://gw.geneanet.org/billo59?n=franzwa&oc=&p=martin] Have a good day. 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My experience is the same as Roy’s, so the phrase I heard was “Du kannst mich am Arsch lecke.” That I only heard when my DS father, uncle and grandfather got together and talked politics. :-)) Somewhat more genteel was “Du kannst mich gern habe,” which I heard from both my DS grandmother and my Bavarian mother. I don’t know if that speaks to the universality of the expression, or if my mother picked it up from my father’s family. When either of my parents was *really* angry at something, we would hear “Herr Gott! Sacrament noch a mal!” Oma and Opa were especially fond of using the word “schweinerei” as in “so ein schweinerei,” to refer to something (a situation or behavior) that was a mess, or unseemly somehow. I would say they used that term similar to the way we would say in English, “that’s bullshit” (or stronger, depending on the tone of delivery). I also remember an expression I only ever heard from my father, usually with a twinkle in his eye, when we would ask him where he was going and he didn’t want to tell us: “Hunds sei Arsch Bohne ruppe [rupfe]” (up a dog’s ass to pick beans). He said that phrase a couple of times in front of my American friends, who found the translation utterly hilarious, and I heard it quite a lot for a while… :-) -Linda > On Mar 3, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Roy Engel <royengel@rogers.com> wrote: > > My experience with this saying is that the word for "kiss" is replaced with the word for "lick". > Roy > On Sunday, March 3, 2019, 5:35:14 p.m. EST, Eve <evebrown@gmail.com> wrote: > > I just remembered probably the worst saying in German they used and it is a > common one here also - which is "kiss my (you know what)" I know how to say > it very well, but can't write it. After I married my husband who's > mother's side is Hungarian I learned they use the same expression - imagine > that :D > Eve >

Joseph, There is an unsubscribe link in the bottom of these emails. I too have Welsh branches. You may be interested that Wales has free access to historical newspapers scanned and posted. Best of all, they are searchable. https://newspapers.library.wales/ Brigitte ZIrger -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Martin [mailto:illinoisgenie@gmail.com] Sent: March 4, 2019 11:04 AM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] How to unsubscribe Dear Listers, At present I need to take a break from this mailing list to focus on my newly found Wales ancestors' research. Could someone please advise how I can unsubscribe from this list. Thank you. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.c om Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Joseph, I will unsubscribe you from the list. We would gladly welcome you back anytime! ------- Darlene DVHH Mailing List Administrator On 04-Mar-2019 11:03 AM, Joseph Martin wrote: > Dear Listers, > > At present I need to take a break from this mailing list to focus on my > newly found Wales ancestors' research. > > Could someone please advise how I can unsubscribe from this list. > > Thank you. > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >