According to https://www.worldcat.org there are copies in the following libraries: Allen County Public Library, Fort Wayne, IN (this has a major genealogy library) Library of Congress, Washington, DC St Louis County Library, St Louis, MO Baldwin County Library Co-operative, Robertsdale, AL Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT Possibly, you could borrow it with Inter-Library Loan (ILLO) or visit if you are close to one of these.  It doesn't appear to be digitized at the Family History Library. ------- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D On 18-Mar-2019 3:46 PM, Joseph Bergmann via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES wrote: > The German Immigrants from Veszprém County, Hungary

Joseph, I won't be able to sell you my copy of "The German Immigrants from Veszprem County, Hungary". I can help you with research as my family is from the area too. Lil Vogl On 3/18/19, 12:49 PM, "Joseph Bergmann via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: I am looking to purchase a copy of an out of print book titled "The German Immigrants from Veszprém County, Hungary". Author: Ernest Chrisbacher, printed in 2005. ISBN-10: LCCN: 2005930160 The book has family related information as my grandparents and father were born in Bakonyjako Veszprém County Hungary. Please send me a message if the book or an ebook (PDF, ePub, and Kindle) is available for purchase. The publisher and author have no available copies nor any plans for a reprint. The author according to his wife is 85 and very sick. Please add the author, Ernest to your prayers. After extensive research I am convinced that the only copies that might be available. are those in a few libraries or in private hands. Thank you Joseph I Bergmann Allentown, Pennsylvania _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I am looking to purchase a copy of an out of print book titled "The German Immigrants from Veszprém County, Hungary". Author: Ernest Chrisbacher, printed in 2005. ISBN-10: LCCN: 2005930160 The book has family related information as my grandparents and father were born in Bakonyjako Veszprém County Hungary. Please send me a message if the book or an ebook (PDF, ePub, and Kindle) is available for purchase. The publisher and author have no available copies nor any plans for a reprint. The author according to his wife is 85 and very sick. Please add the author, Ernest to your prayers. After extensive research I am convinced that the only copies that might be available. are those in a few libraries or in private hands. Thank you Joseph I Bergmann Allentown, Pennsylvania

Thank you all for your assistance!  :))) Based on other info about my 6th-great-grandfather, Andreas Werbach, I believe this to be him based on his age at 1771 census, his 2nd marriage and his death.  All of those approximate to 1728.  Plus other info about the family.  Hope I find something more about him. Weird though, I don't think I've ever seen records that are this sparse - no child's name, no mother, not even a first name. ------- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D On 18-Mar-2019 3:05 PM, Daniela Hieslmayr wrote: > Hello Darlene > > It says: d.(en) 27.ten läßt Veit Werbach ein Söhnlein > Spons: Andreaß Friedmüller > > d. 27.ten ‹> The 27th (May as in the entry above) > > Very strange that there is no information about the given name. But it¹s > the same in the other entries. Looks like it was not important for the > priest, which names the children gotŠ > > Lg, Daniela > > Am 18.03.19, 19:08 schrieb "Darlene Dimitrie" unter > <darlene.lists@cogeco.ca>: > >> https://ln.sync.com/dl/71f3f1a70/y89hrfav-jtu2wcvu-tdkz9yd4-p7j8kk4b >> >> The link above is for birth records from the Varsad, Tolna church books > >from >> 1728. I'm working on the 3rd entry with the date "27" in it. I put in a >> few >> others for comparison. >> >> Here's what I could figure out: >> 27 Maji __s Veit Werbach ein Soehnlein >> Spon: Andreas ______ mueller >> >> Would someone check if I've transcribed it correctly? and fill in the >> missing >> parts? >> The word "Spon" - that looks Latin rather than German. >> Also, what is odd, if I understand this right, is that it's saying that >> Veit >> Werbach had a little son and his godparent is Andreas _______ mueller. >> Should I >> assume that the child's name is the same as the godparent's name? >> >> Thank you! I'm out of practice at transcribing these records. >> >> -- >> ------- >> Darlene >> http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb >> .com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Hello Darlene It says: d.(en) 27.ten läßt Veit Werbach ein Söhnlein Spons: Andreaß Friedmüller d. 27.ten ‹> The 27th (May as in the entry above) Very strange that there is no information about the given name. But it¹s the same in the other entries. Looks like it was not important for the priest, which names the children gotŠ Lg, Daniela Am 18.03.19, 19:08 schrieb "Darlene Dimitrie" unter <darlene.lists@cogeco.ca>: >https://ln.sync.com/dl/71f3f1a70/y89hrfav-jtu2wcvu-tdkz9yd4-p7j8kk4b > >The link above is for birth records from the Varsad, Tolna church books >from >1728. I'm working on the 3rd entry with the date "27" in it. I put in a >few >others for comparison. > >Here's what I could figure out: >27 Maji __s Veit Werbach ein Soehnlein >Spon: Andreas ______ mueller > >Would someone check if I've transcribed it correctly? and fill in the >missing >parts? >The word "Spon" - that looks Latin rather than German. >Also, what is odd, if I understand this right, is that it's saying that >Veit >Werbach had a little son and his godparent is Andreas _______ mueller. >Should I >assume that the child's name is the same as the godparent's name? > >Thank you! I'm out of practice at transcribing these records. > >-- >------- >Darlene >http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb >.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community

Hello Darlene, Just briefly, I suggest the date to be 27 Apri. The remaining words I need to look at more closely. Regards Darryl Schardt On Tuesday, 19 March 2019, 4:09, Darlene Dimitrie <darlene.lists@cogeco.ca> wrote: https://ln.sync.com/dl/71f3f1a70/y89hrfav-jtu2wcvu-tdkz9yd4-p7j8kk4b The link above is for birth records from the Varsad, Tolna church books from 1728.  I'm working on the 3rd entry with the date "27" in it.  I put in a few others for comparison. Here's what I could figure out: 27 Maji  __s Veit Werbach ein Soehnlein Spon:  Andreas ______ mueller Would someone check if I've transcribed it correctly?  and fill in the missing parts? The word "Spon" - that looks Latin rather than German. Also, what is odd, if I understand this right, is that it's saying that Veit Werbach had a little son and his godparent is Andreas _______ mueller.  Should I assume that the child's name is the same as the godparent's name? Thank you!  I'm out of practice at transcribing these records. -- ------- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Godparents/Sponser Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Darlene Dimitrie <darlene.lists@cogeco.ca> wrote: > > https://ln.sync.com/dl/71f3f1a70/y89hrfav-jtu2wcvu-tdkz9yd4-p7j8kk4b > > The link above is for birth records from the Varsad, Tolna church books from 1728. I'm working on the 3rd entry with the date "27" in it. I put in a few others for comparison. > > Here's what I could figure out: > 27 Maji __s Veit Werbach ein Soehnlein > Spon: Andreas ______ mueller > > Would someone check if I've transcribed it correctly? and fill in the missing parts? > The word "Spon" - that looks Latin rather than German. > Also, what is odd, if I understand this right, is that it's saying that Veit Werbach had a little son and his godparent is Andreas _______ mueller. Should I assume that the child's name is the same as the godparent's name? > > Thank you! I'm out of practice at transcribing these records. > > -- > ------- > Darlene > http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

https://ln.sync.com/dl/71f3f1a70/y89hrfav-jtu2wcvu-tdkz9yd4-p7j8kk4b The link above is for birth records from the Varsad, Tolna church books from 1728.  I'm working on the 3rd entry with the date "27" in it.  I put in a few others for comparison. Here's what I could figure out: 27 Maji  __s Veit Werbach ein Soehnlein Spon:  Andreas ______ mueller Would someone check if I've transcribed it correctly?  and fill in the missing parts? The word "Spon" - that looks Latin rather than German. Also, what is odd, if I understand this right, is that it's saying that Veit Werbach had a little son and his godparent is Andreas _______ mueller.  Should I assume that the child's name is the same as the godparent's name? Thank you!  I'm out of practice at transcribing these records. -- ------- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D

Hey Paul, Did you get that link? You know, I had to spend time looking for too. Would be nice if you would at least acknowledge that! ???? Kelly ________________________________ From: Kelly Dazet <kellydazet@hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 5:43 PM To: Paul Thompson; Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Kreisz Surname Its listed under Ansielderkarten 1886-1855. They are index cards, not the actual registration documents. And expect some (human) errors. And remember that not all emigrants registered. https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.familysearch.org%2Fsearch%2Fcatalog%2F173251%3Favailability%3DFamily%2520History%2520Library&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C1a19655f5f7c44a4665308d6a96f0912%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636882691708029978&amp;sdata=yEOh8uIK7yGB3PP4QX0poaVcaENtHIrgEpPl16FGG0s%3D&amp;reserved=0 FamilySearch Catalog: Ansiedlerakten, 1686-1855 — FamilySearch.org<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.familysearch.org%2Fsearch%2Fcatalog%2F173251%3Favailability%3DFamily%2520History%2520Library&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C1a19655f5f7c44a4665308d6a96f0912%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636882691708029978&amp;sdata=yEOh8uIK7yGB3PP4QX0poaVcaENtHIrgEpPl16FGG0s%3D&amp;reserved=0> High reduction (42x) film. Use a high magnification reader. Mikrofilme aufgenommen von Manuskripten und Kartei im Hofkammerarchiv Wien. Card file and documents relating to settlers from Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Böhmen, Moravia to the Banat (mostly) and other regions of Hungary during the 17th ... https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.familysearch.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C1a19655f5f7c44a4665308d6a96f0912%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636882691708029978&amp;sdata=ggq3yZ3VGFSdm3P42ooxxXZ%2BtkmPrL6S7p8bkuk0cnw%3D&amp;reserved=0 Regards, Kelly Dazet ________________________________ From: Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 4:43 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Kreisz Surname I'd be very interested in the card index at Familysearch.org. However, that is a huge site. Can you be a little more specific on how to find this specific card index? Paul A Thompson On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:18 AM Kelly Dazet <kellydazet@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello Tami, > > There a numerous sourses of information on the Dounauschaben emigrant to > the Austria-Hungary Empire. Some of the them registered in Vienna and here > is an card index available on familysearch.org. > Also the Stader Samelwerk , the work of Kallbrunner and Wihlem and > others. Kallbrunner lists several Kreisz who arrived earlier in the 1700s, > so I assume they were Catholic and one Kreis who arrived in Kischker > Batschka and was Lutheran. Given names of the listed Kreisz are Carl, > Michael and Peter. > > Hope this helps. > > Kelly > > ________________________________ > From: Tami Ulreich via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:58 PM > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Cc: Tami Ulreich > Subject: [DVHH] Kreisz Surname > > Hello all! I am a new member of the email list. How can I find out if > my ancestors were Danube Swabian’s? Kreisz is just one of many surnames. > I think I saw one Kreisz listed in a Banat House List. 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https://library.ndsu.edu/grhc/research/eegermans/eegermans.html Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad > On Mar 16, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Mjm1021@comcast.net <mjm1021@comcast.net> wrote: > > Maybe this will help: > https://library.ndsu.edu/grhc/history_culture/family/index.html > > Fran Matkovich > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 15, 2019, at 7:45 PM, DON and TRISCIA HOCHSTATTER <DONHOCHSTATTER@msn.com> wrote: >> >> I am new to the list. Below is what I call my Hungarian German Russians. They left Hungary for Russia (Peterstal and Freudental) about 1807. I believe Many of them were only in Hungary one generation. What I have below is all that I have of these people and was wondering if anyone knows of records from Hungary that will lead me more generations back. Any information or ideas of where I might look for these people would be appreciated. >> Don Hochstatter, Moses Lake, Washington, USA >> Surnames >> HUETHER >> ZECHMEISTER >> CHRISTMANN >> BITTERMAN >> BAMER >> >> VILLAGES >> NEU WERBASS >> TSCHERWENKA >> TORSHAU >> RIENICK >> STUHLWEISSENBURG >> GYORKONY >> >> 4. Johan Ludwig Huether was born on 19 May 1799 in Neu Werbass, Hungary. He died on 29 Jul 1840 at the age of 41 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. Married to #5 Maria Barbara Zechmeister >> >> 5. Barbara (Maria Barbara Margaretha) Zechmeister was born on 13 Jul 1800 in Tscherwenka, Hungary. She died on 13 Oct 1852 at the age of 52 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. >> >> 6. Andreas Freidrich Christmann was born on 28 Mar 1795 in Torshau, Hungary. Barbara Bittermann and Andreas Freidrich Christmann were married. >> >> 7. Barbara Bittermann was born on 11 Jul 1797 in Rienick, Hungary. She died on 22 Jan 1840 at the age of 42 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. >> >> >> Next Generation >> >> >> 10. Paul Zechmeister was born on 4 Dec 1760 in Stuhlweissenburg/Ungarn. He died on 20 Feb 1833 at the age of 72 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. Rosina Bamer and Paul Zechmeister were married on 20 Jan 1784 in Gyorkony, Hungary. >> >> 11. Rosina Bamer was born on 23 Oct 1766 in Gyorkony, Hungary. >> >> 12. Valentin Christmann was born on 23 Dec 1756 in Kollweiler, Germany. Barbara (Christmann) and Valentin Christmann were married. >> >> 13. Barbara (Christmann) was born in Kollweiler, Germany. >> >> 14. Jakob Heinrich Bittermann was born about 1775 in Epfenbach, Baden, Germany. Anna Barbara (Bitterman) and Jakob Heinrich Bittermann were married on 24 Mar 1796 in Rittersback, Mosbach, Germany. >> >> 15. Anna Barbara (Bitterman) was born in 1777. She died in 1810 at the age of 33 in Freudental, So. Russia. >> (BITTERMAN) >> Anna Barbara (b. 1777) . . . >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Maybe this will help: https://library.ndsu.edu/grhc/history_culture/family/index.html Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad > On Mar 15, 2019, at 7:45 PM, DON and TRISCIA HOCHSTATTER <DONHOCHSTATTER@msn.com> wrote: > > I am new to the list. Below is what I call my Hungarian German Russians. They left Hungary for Russia (Peterstal and Freudental) about 1807. I believe Many of them were only in Hungary one generation. What I have below is all that I have of these people and was wondering if anyone knows of records from Hungary that will lead me more generations back. Any information or ideas of where I might look for these people would be appreciated. > Don Hochstatter, Moses Lake, Washington, USA > Surnames > HUETHER > ZECHMEISTER > CHRISTMANN > BITTERMAN > BAMER > > VILLAGES > NEU WERBASS > TSCHERWENKA > TORSHAU > RIENICK > STUHLWEISSENBURG > GYORKONY > > 4. Johan Ludwig Huether was born on 19 May 1799 in Neu Werbass, Hungary. He died on 29 Jul 1840 at the age of 41 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. Married to #5 Maria Barbara Zechmeister > > 5. Barbara (Maria Barbara Margaretha) Zechmeister was born on 13 Jul 1800 in Tscherwenka, Hungary. She died on 13 Oct 1852 at the age of 52 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. > > 6. Andreas Freidrich Christmann was born on 28 Mar 1795 in Torshau, Hungary. Barbara Bittermann and Andreas Freidrich Christmann were married. > > 7. Barbara Bittermann was born on 11 Jul 1797 in Rienick, Hungary. She died on 22 Jan 1840 at the age of 42 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. > > > Next Generation > > > 10. Paul Zechmeister was born on 4 Dec 1760 in Stuhlweissenburg/Ungarn. He died on 20 Feb 1833 at the age of 72 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. Rosina Bamer and Paul Zechmeister were married on 20 Jan 1784 in Gyorkony, Hungary. > > 11. Rosina Bamer was born on 23 Oct 1766 in Gyorkony, Hungary. > > 12. Valentin Christmann was born on 23 Dec 1756 in Kollweiler, Germany. Barbara (Christmann) and Valentin Christmann were married. > > 13. Barbara (Christmann) was born in Kollweiler, Germany. > > 14. Jakob Heinrich Bittermann was born about 1775 in Epfenbach, Baden, Germany. Anna Barbara (Bitterman) and Jakob Heinrich Bittermann were married on 24 Mar 1796 in Rittersback, Mosbach, Germany. > > 15. Anna Barbara (Bitterman) was born in 1777. She died in 1810 at the age of 33 in Freudental, So. Russia. > (BITTERMAN) > Anna Barbara (b. 1777) . . . > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I am new to the list. Below is what I call my Hungarian German Russians. They left Hungary for Russia (Peterstal and Freudental) about 1807. I believe Many of them were only in Hungary one generation. What I have below is all that I have of these people and was wondering if anyone knows of records from Hungary that will lead me more generations back. Any information or ideas of where I might look for these people would be appreciated. Don Hochstatter, Moses Lake, Washington, USA Surnames HUETHER ZECHMEISTER CHRISTMANN BITTERMAN BAMER VILLAGES NEU WERBASS TSCHERWENKA TORSHAU RIENICK STUHLWEISSENBURG GYORKONY 4. Johan Ludwig Huether was born on 19 May 1799 in Neu Werbass, Hungary. He died on 29 Jul 1840 at the age of 41 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. Married to #5 Maria Barbara Zechmeister 5. Barbara (Maria Barbara Margaretha) Zechmeister was born on 13 Jul 1800 in Tscherwenka, Hungary. She died on 13 Oct 1852 at the age of 52 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. 6. Andreas Freidrich Christmann was born on 28 Mar 1795 in Torshau, Hungary. Barbara Bittermann and Andreas Freidrich Christmann were married. 7. Barbara Bittermann was born on 11 Jul 1797 in Rienick, Hungary. She died on 22 Jan 1840 at the age of 42 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. Next Generation 10. Paul Zechmeister was born on 4 Dec 1760 in Stuhlweissenburg/Ungarn. He died on 20 Feb 1833 at the age of 72 in Peterstal, Liebebtal, Odessa, So. Russia. Rosina Bamer and Paul Zechmeister were married on 20 Jan 1784 in Gyorkony, Hungary. 11. Rosina Bamer was born on 23 Oct 1766 in Gyorkony, Hungary. 12. Valentin Christmann was born on 23 Dec 1756 in Kollweiler, Germany. Barbara (Christmann) and Valentin Christmann were married. 13. Barbara (Christmann) was born in Kollweiler, Germany. 14. Jakob Heinrich Bittermann was born about 1775 in Epfenbach, Baden, Germany. Anna Barbara (Bitterman) and Jakob Heinrich Bittermann were married on 24 Mar 1796 in Rittersback, Mosbach, Germany. 15. Anna Barbara (Bitterman) was born in 1777. She died in 1810 at the age of 33 in Freudental, So. Russia. (BITTERMAN) Anna Barbara (b. 1777) . . .

Its listed under Ansielderkarten 1886-1855. They are index cards, not the actual registration documents. And expect some (human) errors. And remember that not all emigrants registered. https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/173251?availability=Family%20History%20Library FamilySearch Catalog: Ansiedlerakten, 1686-1855 — FamilySearch.org<https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/173251?availability=Family%20History%20Library> High reduction (42x) film. Use a high magnification reader. Mikrofilme aufgenommen von Manuskripten und Kartei im Hofkammerarchiv Wien. Card file and documents relating to settlers from Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Böhmen, Moravia to the Banat (mostly) and other regions of Hungary during the 17th ... www.familysearch.org Regards, Kelly Dazet ________________________________ From: Paul Thompson <patjahsd@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 4:43 PM To: Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH) Subject: [DVHH] Re: Kreisz Surname I'd be very interested in the card index at Familysearch.org. However, that is a huge site. Can you be a little more specific on how to find this specific card index? Paul A Thompson On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:18 AM Kelly Dazet <kellydazet@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello Tami, > > There a numerous sourses of information on the Dounauschaben emigrant to > the Austria-Hungary Empire. Some of the them registered in Vienna and here > is an card index available on familysearch.org. > Also the Stader Samelwerk , the work of Kallbrunner and Wihlem and > others. Kallbrunner lists several Kreisz who arrived earlier in the 1700s, > so I assume they were Catholic and one Kreis who arrived in Kischker > Batschka and was Lutheran. Given names of the listed Kreisz are Carl, > Michael and Peter. > > Hope this helps. > > Kelly > > ________________________________ > From: Tami Ulreich via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:58 PM > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Cc: Tami Ulreich > Subject: [DVHH] Kreisz Surname > > Hello all! I am a new member of the email list. How can I find out if > my ancestors were Danube Swabian’s? Kreisz is just one of many surnames. > I think I saw one Kreisz listed in a Banat House List. 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I'd be very interested in the card index at Familysearch.org. However, that is a huge site. Can you be a little more specific on how to find this specific card index? Paul A Thompson On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:18 AM Kelly Dazet <kellydazet@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello Tami, > > There a numerous sourses of information on the Dounauschaben emigrant to > the Austria-Hungary Empire. Some of the them registered in Vienna and here > is an card index available on familysearch.org. > Also the Stader Samelwerk , the work of Kallbrunner and Wihlem and > others. Kallbrunner lists several Kreisz who arrived earlier in the 1700s, > so I assume they were Catholic and one Kreis who arrived in Kischker > Batschka and was Lutheran. Given names of the listed Kreisz are Carl, > Michael and Peter. > > Hope this helps. > > Kelly > > ________________________________ > From: Tami Ulreich via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:58 PM > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Cc: Tami Ulreich > Subject: [DVHH] Kreisz Surname > > Hello all! I am a new member of the email list. How can I find out if > my ancestors were Danube Swabian’s? Kreisz is just one of many surnames. > I think I saw one Kreisz listed in a Banat House List. Thank you! > > Tami Ulreich > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bdcfc5c0f234579795908d6a7c46aa1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636880859392289274&amp;sdata=4PoZFyTWFpYLzU3DeV1DM7MMW40w4atUPz3W8ZTFS6M%3D&amp;reserved=0 > Unsubscribe > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fdonauschwaben-villages%40rootsweb.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bdcfc5c0f234579795908d6a7c46aa1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636880859392289274&amp;sdata=b6ur4WacIppMsvLQxdlgMbu%2Bcwd4zARRJpjKYJo4aJ0%3D&amp;reserved=0 > Privacy Statement: > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bdcfc5c0f234579795908d6a7c46aa1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636880859392289274&amp;sdata=Xya7g1Dm6Sk67bgMH4V0CCx39r1KE0xYJtK%2BLV65TV4%3D&amp;reserved=0 > Terms and Conditions: > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bdcfc5c0f234579795908d6a7c46aa1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636880859392289274&amp;sdata=wlGwPgKCjfGiUN06p4KnKrIIQjuq373J1TPNv3yADBA%3D&amp;reserved=0 > Rootsweb Blog: > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bdcfc5c0f234579795908d6a7c46aa1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636880859392299279&amp;sdata=Q4BsUlKBLR2X1alGQbmgKuFD7yabHvzUGD1AS5oWwII%3D&amp;reserved=0 > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thanks, Anni! I somehow missed the significance/meaning of "ledig, ledig" in these entries. Another in a long list of senior moments :-) Lin On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 4:33 PM <Annamaria.Lorenz@gmx.de> wrote: > Linda, > > under number 20760 in the Hatzfeld book you find the following in the > second line: > > vh K 03.02.1895 (ledig, ledig, TZ Mathias Hepp, Franz Konrad) > > that means: > vh: they married ("verheiratet") > K: in the church ("Kirche") > ledig: first marriage for him, ledig : first marriage for her > TZ: witnesses ("Trauzeugen") > > so the priest wrote down that was not married before. > > Hope this helps you to read the Hornung entries ;-) > Anni > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. März 2019 um 16:58 Uhr > Von: "Linda Adams" <linadams210@gmail.com> > An: "Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)" < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Betreff: [DVHH] Re: Lookup Request Hatzfeld book by Hornungs > Thank you so much, Robert. I think what you're telling me is that <22835> > refers to her daughter (TABAR Margaretha) not her first husband? I'm still > learning how to read the Hornung entries, and I suppose I incorrectly > assumed that the first number was a first husband. I think I was also > pre-disposed to think of a first husband: my g-grandmother spoke of a > Philip, who was in the Austrian Cavalry and died when his horse fell on > him. I knew he wasn't one of her brothers, so I thought perhaps he was a > first husband, since she had a grand-daughter named after him! Again, > thank you so much for your help. Lin Adams > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:41 PM Robert Evensen <revensen@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > Lin, > > > > The Hatzfeld FB does not list a previous husband. As you probably know > > Susanna Tabar had another child, Margaretha *15.02.1900 HF and > > +23.03.1900 HF. She is listed as daughter of an unknown father. > > > > Robert Evensen > > > > On 3/12/2019 4:15 PM, Linda Adams wrote: > > > My great-grandmother is Susanna Tabar. My great-grandfather, Franz > > > Schummer, was her 2nd husband. She was married once prior, and I > > > wonder if anyone could tell me what her 1st husband's name was. All I > > > know of him is what is listed below - he is number 22835 in the > > > Hornungs Hatzfeld book. Thank you so much for any help you can give. > > > Lin Adams, Ohio > > > image.png > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com[https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] > > > Privacy Statement: > https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY[https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY] Terms and > Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9[https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9] > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog[http://rootsweb.blog] > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: > http://bit.ly/rootswebpref[http://bit.ly/rootswebpref] > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com[https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] > > Privacy Statement: > https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY[https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY] Terms and > Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9[https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9] > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog[http://rootsweb.blog] > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref[http://bit.ly/rootswebpref] > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com[https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY[https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY] > Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9[https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9] > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog[http://rootsweb.blog] > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Linda,   under number 20760 in the Hatzfeld book you find the following in the second line: vh K 03.02.1895 (ledig, ledig, TZ Mathias Hepp, Franz Konrad) that means: vh: they married ("verheiratet") K: in the church ("Kirche") ledig: first marriage for him, ledig : first marriage for her TZ: witnesses ("Trauzeugen")   so the priest wrote down that was not married before.   Hope this helps you to read the Hornung entries ;-) Anni   Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. März 2019 um 16:58 Uhr Von: "Linda Adams" <linadams210@gmail.com> An: "Donauschwaben Villages Helping Hands (DVHH)" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Betreff: [DVHH] Re: Lookup Request Hatzfeld book by Hornungs Thank you so much, Robert. I think what you're telling me is that <22835> refers to her daughter (TABAR Margaretha) not her first husband? I'm still learning how to read the Hornung entries, and I suppose I incorrectly assumed that the first number was a first husband. I think I was also pre-disposed to think of a first husband: my g-grandmother spoke of a Philip, who was in the Austrian Cavalry and died when his horse fell on him. I knew he wasn't one of her brothers, so I thought perhaps he was a first husband, since she had a grand-daughter named after him! Again, thank you so much for your help. Lin Adams On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:41 PM Robert Evensen <revensen@comcast.net> wrote: > Lin, > > The Hatzfeld FB does not list a previous husband. As you probably know > Susanna Tabar had another child, Margaretha *15.02.1900 HF and > +23.03.1900 HF. She is listed as daughter of an unknown father. > > Robert Evensen > > On 3/12/2019 4:15 PM, Linda Adams wrote: > > My great-grandmother is Susanna Tabar. My great-grandfather, Franz > > Schummer, was her 2nd husband. She was married once prior, and I > > wonder if anyone could tell me what her 1st husband's name was. All I > > know of him is what is listed below - he is number 22835 in the > > Hornungs Hatzfeld book. Thank you so much for any help you can give. > > Lin Adams, Ohio > > image.png > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com[https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY[https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY] Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9[https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9] > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog[http://rootsweb.blog] > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref[http://bit.ly/rootswebpref] > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com[https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY[https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY] Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9[https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9] > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog[http://rootsweb.blog] > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref[http://bit.ly/rootswebpref] Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com[https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY[https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY] Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9[https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9] Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog[http://rootsweb.blog] RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you so much, Robert. I think what you're telling me is that <22835> refers to her daughter (TABAR Margaretha) not her first husband? I'm still learning how to read the Hornung entries, and I suppose I incorrectly assumed that the first number was a first husband. I think I was also pre-disposed to think of a first husband: my g-grandmother spoke of a Philip, who was in the Austrian Cavalry and died when his horse fell on him. I knew he wasn't one of her brothers, so I thought perhaps he was a first husband, since she had a grand-daughter named after him! Again, thank you so much for your help. Lin Adams On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:41 PM Robert Evensen <revensen@comcast.net> wrote: > Lin, > > The Hatzfeld FB does not list a previous husband. As you probably know > Susanna Tabar had another child, Margaretha *15.02.1900 HF and > +23.03.1900 HF. She is listed as daughter of an unknown father. > > Robert Evensen > > On 3/12/2019 4:15 PM, Linda Adams wrote: > > My great-grandmother is Susanna Tabar. My great-grandfather, Franz > > Schummer, was her 2nd husband. She was married once prior, and I > > wonder if anyone could tell me what her 1st husband's name was. All I > > know of him is what is listed below - he is number 22835 in the > > Hornungs Hatzfeld book. Thank you so much for any help you can give. > > Lin Adams, Ohio > > image.png > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thank you! I will check that page out! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Mjm1021@comcast.net <mjm1021@comcast.net> wrote: > > Dear Tami, > Here is one way to find Banat Kreis ancestors — Dave Dreyer’s Ship List > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~banatdata/genealogy/DDB/BySurname/Surname-Krapp.htm > > Welcome to the list. > > Fran Matkovich > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you so much! I’ll check into those resources soon. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2019, at 10:18 AM, Kelly Dazet <kellydazet@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Tami, > > There a numerous sourses of information on the Dounauschaben emigrant to the Austria-Hungary Empire. Some of the them registered in Vienna and here is an card index available on familysearch.org. > Also the Stader Samelwerk , the work of Kallbrunner and Wihlem and others. Kallbrunner lists several Kreisz who arrived earlier in the 1700s, so I assume they were Catholic and one Kreis who arrived in Kischker Batschka and was Lutheran. Given names of the listed Kreisz are Carl, Michael and Peter. > > Hope this helps. > > Kelly > > ________________________________ > From: Tami Ulreich via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:58 PM > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Cc: Tami Ulreich > Subject: [DVHH] Kreisz Surname > > Hello all! I am a new member of the email list. How can I find out if my ancestors were Danube Swabian’s? Kreisz is just one of many surnames. I think I saw one Kreisz listed in a Banat House List. Thank you! > > Tami Ulreich > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bdcfc5c0f234579795908d6a7c46aa1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636880859392289274&amp;sdata=4PoZFyTWFpYLzU3DeV1DM7MMW40w4atUPz3W8ZTFS6M%3D&amp;reserved=0 > Unsubscribe https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fdonauschwaben-villages%40rootsweb.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bdcfc5c0f234579795908d6a7c46aa1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636880859392289274&amp;sdata=b6ur4WacIppMsvLQxdlgMbu%2Bcwd4zARRJpjKYJo4aJ0%3D&amp;reserved=0 > Privacy Statement: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bdcfc5c0f234579795908d6a7c46aa1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636880859392289274&amp;sdata=Xya7g1Dm6Sk67bgMH4V0CCx39r1KE0xYJtK%2BLV65TV4%3D&amp;reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bdcfc5c0f234579795908d6a7c46aa1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636880859392289274&amp;sdata=wlGwPgKCjfGiUN06p4KnKrIIQjuq373J1TPNv3yADBA%3D&amp;reserved=0 > Rootsweb Blog: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0bdcfc5c0f234579795908d6a7c46aa1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636880859392299279&amp;sdata=Q4BsUlKBLR2X1alGQbmgKuFD7yabHvzUGD1AS5oWwII%3D&amp;reserved=0 > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Dear Tami, Here is one way to find Banat Kreis ancestors — Dave Dreyer’s Ship List http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~banatdata/genealogy/DDB/BySurname/Surname-Krapp.htm Welcome to the list. Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad