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    1. Re: [DVHH] Familienzusammenstellung - meaning?
    2. John J. Kornfeind
    3. It means family composition or makeup. John -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jane Moore" <jmoore@catapulsion.net> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 7:59 AM To: "Jim & Jean Hagen" <mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com> Cc: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] Familienzusammenstellung - meaning? > I don't know what Familienzusammenstellung means. I'm sure someone on the > list will! > > Jane > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Jim & Jean Hagen <mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> Thanks Jane, >> This is very helpful. I checked the list of villages and my Grandmother's >> village is listed "Klek" and it's on CD. It is available on CD. Can >> anyone >> help me out on what Familienzusammenstellung means? I might be getting >> somewhere in my search. >> Thanks >> Jean >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 16:04:25 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kleinjetscha Familienbuch - lookup - Graf >> From: jmoore@catapulsion.net >> To: mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com >> CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> >> >> Jean, >> >> I'm sure others will answer this better than I, but I'll give it a go. >> Here is a description of the Kleinjetcha Family Book, Kleinjetscha being >> a >> village in today's Romanian Banat. >> >> Giel, Dietmar (2001). Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde >> Kleinjetscha im Banat: 1772-2000. Friedrichsdorf: Zentralstelle für >> Personen- und Familiengeschichte. >> >> 762 pages written in German. Includes details on the families living in >> Kleinjetscha from approximately 1772-2000 and limited information on the >> families living in the neighboring village Gertianosch from 1783-1785. >> >> Included for each family are birth, death, & marriage dates and >> locations; >> children; godparents & witnesses; and the relationships between families. >> Sometimes included are occupations and migration notes. Though in >> German, >> because of the way the book is organized, it is relatively easy for >> non-German speakers to glean information about their families. >> >> Many of the villages where our ancestors lived have family books. While >> a >> few of the books have been put on line or on CD, many are hard copy only >> (and many of those are out-of-print). Here is a link to a list that >> includes just the Banat family books: >> >> http://www.banatbooks.com/FamilienbuchList.htm >> >> Jane Moore >> http://www.dvhh.org/kleinjetscha/index.htm >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/07/2014 02:34:54
    1. Re: [DVHH] Kleinjetscha Familienbuch - lookup - Graf
    2. Jim & Jean Hagen
    3. Just Curious, what is Keinjetscha Familienbuch? Jean > From: revensen@comcast.net > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:44:08 -0400 > Subject: [DVHH] Kleinjetscha Familienbuch - lookup - Graf > > Could someone with access to the Kleinjetscha Familienbuch give me the information on the children of Mathias Graf and Margaretha Weber. It is G143. Thanks. > > Robert Evensen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/06/2014 02:00:56
    1. Re: [DVHH] Kleinjetscha Familienbuch - lookup - Graf
    2. Robert Evensen
    3. Thanks Jane! Just what I needed. Robert From: Jane Moore Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 5:43 PM To: Robert Evensen Cc: dvhh-l Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kleinjetscha Familienbuch - lookup - Graf Robert, Children listed for Mathias Graff & Margarethe Weber in _Familienbuch Kleinjetscha_ 1. Elisabeth - b. 29.08.1882 2. Mathias - b. 09.07.1884; d. gefallen (I) [Robert, assume this means WWI?] 3. Anna - b. 19.08.1886; d. 25.09.1886 4. Barbara - b. 21.01.1888 5. Eva - b. 29.04.1890; m. Karl Frückert 04.05.1911; d. 03.03.1984 (Grossjetscha) Anything else? Jane Moore http://www.dvhh.org/kleinjetscha/ On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Robert Evensen <revensen@comcast.net> wrote: Could someone with access to the Kleinjetscha Familienbuch give me the information on the children of Mathias Graf and Margaretha Weber. It is G143. Thanks. Robert Evensen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/06/2014 01:17:09
    1. Re: [DVHH] Kleinjetscha Familienbuch - lookup - Graf
    2. Jane Moore
    3. Jean, I'm sure others will answer this better than I, but I'll give it a go. Here is a description of the Kleinjetcha Family Book, Kleinjetscha being a village in today's Romanian Banat. Giel, Dietmar (2001). Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde Kleinjetscha im Banat: 1772-2000. Friedrichsdorf: Zentralstelle für Personen- und Familiengeschichte. 762 pages written in German. Includes details on the families living in Kleinjetscha from approximately 1772-2000 and limited information on the families living in the neighboring village Gertianosch from 1783-1785. Included for each family are birth, death, & marriage dates and locations; children; godparents & witnesses; and the relationships between families. Sometimes included are occupations and migration notes. Though in German, because of the way the book is organized, it is relatively easy for non-German speakers to glean information about their families. Many of the villages where our ancestors lived have family books. While a few of the books have been put on line or on CD, many are hard copy only (and many of those are out-of-print). Here is a link to a list that includes just the Banat family books: http://www.banatbooks.com/FamilienbuchList.htm Jane Moore http://www.dvhh.org/kleinjetscha/index.htm On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Jim & Jean Hagen <mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com> wrote: > Just Curious, what is Keinjetscha Familienbuch? > Jean > > > From: revensen@comcast.net > > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:44:08 -0400 > > Subject: [DVHH] Kleinjetscha Familienbuch - lookup - Graf > > > > Could someone with access to the Kleinjetscha Familienbuch give me the > information on the children of Mathias Graf and Margaretha Weber. It is > G143. Thanks. > > > > Robert Evensen > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/06/2014 10:04:25
    1. [DVHH] Kleinjetscha Familienbuch - lookup - Graf
    2. Robert Evensen
    3. Could someone with access to the Kleinjetscha Familienbuch give me the information on the children of Mathias Graf and Margaretha Weber. It is G143. Thanks. Robert Evensen

    06/06/2014 09:44:08
    1. Re: [DVHH] Kleinjetscha Familienbuch - lookup - Graf
    2. Jane Moore
    3. Robert, Children listed for Mathias Graff & Margarethe Weber in _Familienbuch Kleinjetscha_ 1. Elisabeth - b. 29.08.1882 2. Mathias - b. 09.07.1884; d. gefallen (I) [Robert, assume this means WWI?] 3. Anna - b. 19.08.1886; d. 25.09.1886 4. Barbara - b. 21.01.1888 5. Eva - b. 29.04.1890; m. Karl Frückert 04.05.1911; d. 03.03.1984 (Grossjetscha) Anything else? Jane Moore http://www.dvhh.org/kleinjetscha/ On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Robert Evensen <revensen@comcast.net> wrote: > Could someone with access to the Kleinjetscha Familienbuch give me the > information on the children of Mathias Graf and Margaretha Weber. It is > G143. Thanks. > > Robert Evensen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/06/2014 09:43:58
    1. Re: [DVHH] Hungarian town
    2. Robert Evensen
    3. Thanks everyone for searching for Szigetfalu. I think the correct answer has been found by Rose Vetter and Karen Dalton Preston. Robert From: Rose Vetter Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 1:57 PM To: Fran Matkovich Cc: Robert Evensen ; DVHH-L Subject: Re: [DVHH] Hungarian town Hello Robert and all, The correct spelling is Szigetfalu. It's a village in Romania. See map: http://mapaonline.es/en/cities/szigetfalu-romania#45.374563036966904/21.485518358593712/8/0 It should not be confused with Szeged, which is the third-largest city in Hungary. Hope this helps. Rose On 6 June 2014 10:49, Fran Matkovich <mjm1021@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Robert, I wonder if Szegetfalu could be Szeged or Szegedin in the Banat? Fran Matkovich -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Evensen Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 12:16 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Hungarian town Can anyone tell me the current name for Szegetfalu? It is listed in the FB Großjetscha as the marriage locale for Nikolus Lambing and Eva Weber (L42.6) Thanks. Robert ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/06/2014 08:15:56
    1. Re: [DVHH] Hungarian town
    2. Fran Matkovich
    3. Hi Robert, I wonder if Szegetfalu could be Szeged or Szegedin in the Banat? Fran Matkovich -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Evensen Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 12:16 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Hungarian town Can anyone tell me the current name for Szegetfalu? It is listed in the FB Großjetscha as the marriage locale for Nikolus Lambing and Eva Weber (L42.6) Thanks. Robert ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/06/2014 07:49:15
    1. Re: [DVHH] Hungarian town
    2. Noelle Giesse
    3. My guess would be Szeged. Noelle Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:15 PM, "Robert Evensen" <revensen@comcast.net> wrote: > > Can anyone tell me the current name for Szegetfalu? It is listed in the FB Großjetscha as the marriage locale for Nikolus Lambing and Eva Weber (L42.6) Thanks. > > Robert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/06/2014 07:12:53
    1. [DVHH] Hungarian town
    2. Robert Evensen
    3. Can anyone tell me the current name for Szegetfalu? It is listed in the FB Großjetscha as the marriage locale for Nikolus Lambing and Eva Weber (L42.6) Thanks. Robert

    06/06/2014 06:15:39
    1. Re: [DVHH] Hungarian town
    2. Rose Vetter
    3. Hello Robert and all, The correct spelling is Szigetfalu. It's a village in Romania. See map: http://mapaonline.es/en/cities/szigetfalu-romania#45.374563036966904/21.485518358593712/8/0 It should not be confused with Szeged, which is the third-largest city in Hungary. Hope this helps. Rose On 6 June 2014 10:49, Fran Matkovich <mjm1021@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Robert, > I wonder if Szegetfalu could be Szeged or Szegedin in the Banat? > > Fran Matkovich > > -----Original Message----- > From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert > Evensen > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 12:16 PM > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Hungarian town > > Can anyone tell me the current name for Szegetfalu? It is listed in the FB > Großjetscha as the marriage locale for Nikolus Lambing and Eva Weber > (L42.6) > Thanks. > > Robert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/06/2014 04:57:20
    1. [DVHH] Ethnic cleansing
    2. Sandra
    3. I've been trying to determine if Buzias/Timisoara was an area that endured the ethnic cleansing after the war. If I finished Bread on My Mother'sTable and will read Pebble in My Shoe and People of the Book. So far it seems that some areas of Eastern Europe were targeted more. Does anyone have any idea where I could gain such information about Buzias/Timisoara area? Thanks Sandra Sent from my iPad

    06/05/2014 08:35:25
    1. Re: [DVHH] Head Cheese/Souse/
    2. Barbara Hilderson
    3. I miss these foods, that look awful; but taste "Oh so good". But, thanks to our ancestors who braved the Atlantic Ocean and brought with them the recipes we can 200 years later enjoy. The internet was the "Vehicle" used by scattered peoples across the globe. Here in the USA, we on this list were invited to join DVHH to share stories of our Grandparents childhoods; and their travels. AND.....the histories of their forefathers. Thank you Jody and all the volunteers who keep us "Family". Barb

    06/05/2014 04:42:11
    1. Re: [DVHH] ] in need of help
    2. jugoslava
    3. Kathy, Do you know marriage dates for her children? When were her children born? When did the husband die, before or after her? Do you know from any source at least the approximate year of her death? School records are available that can tell you where Anton Pfeiffer worked as a teacher at the time when Rosalia was born - some are online, but most are only available in state archive in Sombor, Serbia. - The ones that are online: you can find on the website of the Kalocsa diocese e-archive - even if you are not their subscriber you can use free search option in the top right corner of their web page "Keresés": http://archivum.asztrik.hu/ . use the surname of the person you are looking for and try any and all alternate spellings. This search is great if your ancestors were teachers,civil servants, Roman Catholic Church priests, town or village representatives. - There is information available that Antál Pfeiffer ( Anton) was schoolteacher in Karavukovo village from 1858 to 1891. : http://archivum.asztrik.hu/?q=oldal/bacsordas-karavukova-1856-1919 You can look if he appears in any other school records on this page: http://archivum.asztrik.hu/?q=category/helysegek/nepiskolak Népiskolák = public/state schools,click on "Tovább" button under the place-name to see the whole entry, and do not change the language of the web page to English because the search option glitches and does not show all results when you do that. :) Jugoslava Ilankovic "Rodoslovlje" Serbian Genealogy Society www.rodoslovlje.com Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 15:57:31 -0600 Subject: [DVHH] in need of help Hello Listers, I have not been able to find my great grandmother’s birth date and place as well as her death date and place. Her name was Rosalia Pfeiffer Eisele. Her father was Anton Pfeiffer B. 18 Nov 1815 in Kernei to Georg Pol Pfeiffer and Susanna Belowski M. 29 Sep 1843 in Karavukovo to Helena Bauer D. 21 Apr 1895 in Karavukovo Her mother was Helena Bauer B. 17 Aug 1822 in Karavukovo to Janos Bauer and AnaMarie Eckert M. 29 Sep 1843 to Anton Pfeiffer in Karavukovo D. 19 Jul 1902 in Karavukovo Rosalia was born about 1847 but I it does not appear to have been in Karavukovo. Her father was a teacher and I am told that teachers were sent to wherever there was a need. Rosalia married Ignatz Eisele on 19 July 1870 in Karavukovo. I have located the Catholic baptismal records for all nine of their children (all born in Karavukovo). I cannot find a death date for her although it was probably in Karavukovo. I have been very fortunate to find all of the other information on this family but these two missing pieces are like not having a front tooth. Thanks in advance, Kathy Kennedy

    06/05/2014 04:13:05
    1. Re: [DVHH] Head cheese
    2. Frank A Jakob
    3. My father was a German butcher and assuage maker from Yugoslavia and then carpinis in the Banat I grew up playing scorer with pigs stomachs Sure miss the food and family now that I am 70 years old I never knew what store bought meats were until my father died in 1975 He brought home everything he made that day Gruss Thanks and Have a Great Day ! Frank A. Jakob, President /Broker Realtor - Auctioneer - "Estate Services" Cell: 252-305-1184 Email: capehatreal@yahoo.com "Specializing in Water Front Properties" www.CapeHatterasRealty.com Cape Hatteras Realty & Construction Corp PO Box 249 Salvo, NC 27972 > On Jun 5, 2014, at 3:21 AM, <davey1947@suddenlink.net> wrote: > > We ate a lot of head cheese, blood sausage, and pork hocks. I believe the brand name for the pork hocks in Marshfield and Stevens Point, Wisconsin was Peer. The difference between pork hocks and pigs feet was the pigs feet had the bones in. The pork hocks had no bones. I remember they were in this type of jell, and they had this certain type of seasoning. I think one of them was vinegar. Maybe someone else on the list knows, but I remember we really loved them. I know the head cheese came in a jell too. As far as blood sausage, we never thought anything about it when my mother made that. i believe she fried that. My mother fried almost everything. Back in the 50s, no one knew about the bad health qualities in frying. > My kids never considered the possibility of eating blood sausage. Their mother never ate any of those foods, so they never learned a taste for them. I don't even know if you can find Blood sausage and pork hocks in the store anymore. People eat much worse foods now than those foods then. > Dave Weinfurtner > ---- June Meyer <junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I grew up on head cheese, blood sausage and pigs feet in sulz. If you want a good but simple recipe for HUNGARIAN JELLIED PIGS FEET, see my recipe Index under Main Courses. >> >> I remember going to the chicken store on North Ave. in Chicago to get freshly killed chicken. My brother and I would play with the chicken feet, pre plastic toy era. I do not remember anyone making blood soup, but I do remember my grandmother picking the chicken brains out to eat. >> >> My Grandmother brought her large and heavy feather duvet with her in 1918 when she came to America, along with her large wooden noodle board. I disposed of it around 1970. Mice got into it for a cozy nest in the basement! >> >> Regards, June Meyer >> junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com >> >> www.junemeyer.com >> See my homepage and Hungarian heirloom recipes! >> >> www.facebook.com/june.meyer.501 >> See my Face Book page. >> >> " ALWAYS REMEMBER: >> If we don't ask, we'll never know. . . >> and if we don't record what we do know, >> our descendants will wish we had!!" >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 4:02 AM, chuck.kathrein@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Sulz. >>> >>> I grew up eating it on the farm in North Dakota. >>> >>> I have lived in Bangkok, Thailand the past 15 years, and I buy fresh pork hocks a few times a year and make sulz. Paprika and fresh garlic are the key ingredients. >>> >>> ‎Chuck Kathrein >>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. >>> Original Message >>> From: davey1947@suddenlink.net >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 14:49 >>> To: Darlene Dimitrie; Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Head cheese >>> >>> I love head cheese. I think sometimes we call it soltz, but maybe someone can verify. >>> My mother used to buy head cheese every so often, but it seems like she bought it more during Lent. >>> Dave Weinfurtner >>> ---- Darlene Dimitrie <fon.ladee@cogeco.ca> wrote: >>>> Then there was always the fright of opening the fridge and finding a >>>> large bowl, covered by plastic wrap, of freshly made coarse head cheese. >>>> To this day I can't look at head cheese, even at the European delis. >>>> My mother loves this stuff. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Darlene >>>> http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D >>>> http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/05/2014 02:38:14
    1. Re: [DVHH] Seiler and Scheffler of Blumenthal
    2. Eric
    3. Hi Carol, I found some information from the Blumenthal parish registers about the ancestors you mentioned.  See below. From: Carol Kalar <carolkalar@hotmail.com> > I am still looking for members of my Paternal side of my family.  > My Great-grandfather Johann Seiler was born on 24 June 1863 in > Blumenthal=2C Banat & my Great-grandmother Elizabeth Scheffler > Seiler was born 25 august 1863 In Blumenthal=2C Banat.  My other > Great-grand-father Joseph Anton was born 26 January 1875 in > Heilfelt=2C Bukovina and my Great-grand-mother Regina Schaffer > Anton was born 20 July 1880 in Bukovina.  My great-grandfather's > father was also Johann Seiler he was born in 1843 in Blumenthal > & my great-grandmother Anna Friedman Krawad Seiler was born in > 1845 in Blumenthal.  All of my grandparents immigrated to the > United States and settled in North Dakota.  They settled down > in North Dakota and raised their families there=2C they all died > in North Dakota.  I am on Roots Web as well as Ancestry.com=2C > I'm just having a hard time finding the parents of these great- > grandparents.  Any help of information on where I should look > next will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks so much for your > help.  Carol Seiler Kalar Salt Lake City=2C Utah On July 7, 1885: Janos Seiler, son of Janos Seiler and Anna Gravath, age 22, of Blumenthal house 212 married Erzsebet Schöfler, dau of Henrik Schöfler and Zsuzsanna Friedmann, age 19, of Blumenthal house 140 On July 24, 1863 (not June 24) birth of Joannes, son of Joannes Szeiler, agricola [=farmer], and Anna Gravath at Blumenthal house 212 On the same page, I noticed a birth record on 14 Aug 1863 for Magdalena, illegitimate dau of Susanna Friedmann, unmarried, of Blumenthal house 226.  It looks like a note was added later that Henricus Schaefler was the father (with a phrase in latin that is hard to read); I'm not sure if that means the child was adopted or that Henricus acknowledged being the father. On Oct 22, 1881 death of Janos Seiler, földmívelő, husband of Anna Gravath of Blumenthal house 212, age 43.  cause of death: Tüdőgümösödés? [Tüdő = lung] On 26 Aug 1865 (not 1863), birth of Elisabetha, dau of Henricus Schaefler, agricola, and Susanna Fredmann of Blumenthal house 142. On 6 Aug 1864, Henricus, son of Antonius Schaefler and Magdalena Lenhardt, agricola, age 24 of Blumenthal married Susanna, dau of Joannes Friedmann and Susanna Fander, agricola, age 21 of Blumenthal On Feb 9, 1858 Joannes Szeiler, son of Joannes Szeiler and Margaretha Glotzbier, agricola, age 24 of Blumenthal married Anna Gravath, dau of Petrus Gravath and Elisabeth Pfeiffer?, agricola, age 17 of Blumenthal This last record and earlier parish records for Blumenthal back to 1771 (when the parish was founded) are all available on microfilm from the family history library in Salt Lake City.  I obtained the later parish records from John Schambre. Regards, Eric Ruppert

    06/05/2014 01:03:00
    1. Re: [DVHH] Head cheese
    2. We ate a lot of head cheese, blood sausage, and pork hocks. I believe the brand name for the pork hocks in Marshfield and Stevens Point, Wisconsin was Peer. The difference between pork hocks and pigs feet was the pigs feet had the bones in. The pork hocks had no bones. I remember they were in this type of jell, and they had this certain type of seasoning. I think one of them was vinegar. Maybe someone else on the list knows, but I remember we really loved them. I know the head cheese came in a jell too. As far as blood sausage, we never thought anything about it when my mother made that. i believe she fried that. My mother fried almost everything. Back in the 50s, no one knew about the bad health qualities in frying. My kids never considered the possibility of eating blood sausage. Their mother never ate any of those foods, so they never learned a taste for them. I don't even know if you can find Blood sausage and pork hocks in the store anymore. People eat much worse foods now than those foods then. Dave Weinfurtner ---- June Meyer <junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> wrote: > I grew up on head cheese, blood sausage and pigs feet in sulz. If you want a good but simple recipe for HUNGARIAN JELLIED PIGS FEET, see my recipe Index under Main Courses. > > I remember going to the chicken store on North Ave. in Chicago to get freshly killed chicken. My brother and I would play with the chicken feet, pre plastic toy era. I do not remember anyone making blood soup, but I do remember my grandmother picking the chicken brains out to eat. > > My Grandmother brought her large and heavy feather duvet with her in 1918 when she came to America, along with her large wooden noodle board. I disposed of it around 1970. Mice got into it for a cozy nest in the basement! > > Regards, June Meyer > junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com > > www.junemeyer.com > See my homepage and Hungarian heirloom recipes! > > www.facebook.com/june.meyer.501 > See my Face Book page. > > " ALWAYS REMEMBER: > If we don't ask, we'll never know. . . > and if we don't record what we do know, > our descendants will wish we had!!" > > > > > On Jun 4, 2014, at 4:02 AM, chuck.kathrein@gmail.com wrote: > > > Sulz. > > > > I grew up eating it on the farm in North Dakota. > > > > I have lived in Bangkok, Thailand the past 15 years, and I buy fresh pork hocks a few times a year and make sulz. Paprika and fresh garlic are the key ingredients. > > > > ‎Chuck Kathrein > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > > Original Message > > From: davey1947@suddenlink.net > > Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 14:49 > > To: Darlene Dimitrie; Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Head cheese > > > > I love head cheese. I think sometimes we call it soltz, but maybe someone can verify. > > My mother used to buy head cheese every so often, but it seems like she bought it more during Lent. > > Dave Weinfurtner > > ---- Darlene Dimitrie <fon.ladee@cogeco.ca> wrote: > >> Then there was always the fright of opening the fridge and finding a > >> large bowl, covered by plastic wrap, of freshly made coarse head cheese. > >> To this day I can't look at head cheese, even at the European delis. > >> My mother loves this stuff. > >> > >> -- > >> Darlene > >> http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D > >> http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/04/2014 08:21:33
    1. Re: [DVHH] Head cheese
    2. Sulz. I grew up eating it on the farm in North Dakota. I have lived in Bangkok, Thailand the past 15 years, and I buy fresh pork hocks a few times a year and make sulz. Paprika and fresh garlic are the key ingredients. ‎Chuck Kathrein Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.   Original Message   From: davey1947@suddenlink.net Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 14:49 To: Darlene Dimitrie; Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] Head cheese I love head cheese. I think sometimes we call it soltz, but maybe someone can verify. My mother used to buy head cheese every so often, but it seems like she bought it more during Lent. Dave Weinfurtner ---- Darlene Dimitrie <fon.ladee@cogeco.ca> wrote: > Then there was always the fright of opening the fridge and finding a > large bowl, covered by plastic wrap, of freshly made coarse head cheese. > To this day I can't look at head cheese, even at the European delis. > My mother loves this stuff. > > -- > Darlene > http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D > http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/04/2014 10:02:22
    1. Re: [DVHH] DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 165
    2. Carol Kalar
    3. This is the 1st time I have responded to any of the e-mails that I have received. I really appreciate being a member of this group. I am still looking for members of my Paternal side of my family. My Great-grandfather Johann Seiler was born on 24 June 1863 in Blumenthal, Banat & my Great-grandmother Elizabeth Scheffler Seiler was born 25 august 1863 In Blumenthal, Banat. My other Great-grand-father Joseph Anton was born 26 January 1875 in Heilfelt, Bukovina and my Great-grand-mother Regina Schaffer Anton was born 20 July 1880 in Bukovina. My great-grandfather's father was also Johann Seiler he was born in 1843 in Blumenthal & my great-grandmother Anna Friedman Krawad Seiler was born in 1845 in Blumenthal. All of my grandparents immigrated to the United States and settled in North Dakota. They settled down in North Dakota and raised their families there, they all died in North Dakota. I am on Roots Web as well as Ancestry.com, I'm just having a hard time finding the parents of these great-grandparents. Any help of information on where I should look next will be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much for your help. Carol Seiler Kalar Salt Lake City, Utah From: donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com Subject: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 165 To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 01:00:04 -0600 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: mrmrsgtx@hotmail.com To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 21:00:10 +0000 Subject: [DVHH] Schmidt family Hello,I'm starting to research my Grandmother's family. Susana Schmidt (maiden name) . She was born in Klek in 1898. Which I believe is in the Banat region? Susana Schmidt emigrated to the US in 1914 at age 16. Her parents were Adam Schmidt and Barbara Schmidt (also her maiden name). They had six daughters. Four of them emigrated to the US and two to Canada. The youngest returned but I'm not sure when or where. I know My Great Grandfather Adam Schmidt died during WW2 in Klek. I don't know when Barbara died. I know they were Catholic. What I want to find out, if possible where in Germany they came from and if possible find another generation in her village. It took me two years to find my Grandmother's passenger list. They had misspelled her last name. I found the German version and it was correct. I have all of her US documents. I'm not sure if any records are still available and the name Schmidt is not the easiest to research. I also have her sisters married names. My Grandmother lived in Chicago until her divorce in the early 1930's. She then moved to Michigan with my mother and remarried. Her other sisters settled in Chicago, Michigan and Canada. I was so happy to find this group. I had a Donauschwaben intervention on a German genealogy facebook site one night. . I never knew the history of my Grandmother and Grandfather's origins. How they were German but didn't live there was very confusing. Just knew they were from Austria-Hungary or the "Old Country". I'm on the DVHH FB and have received quite the history lesson. My Grandfather's will be a tough one. I'll post that info later. Thanks EveryoneJean Tacey Hagen --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: krbjkennedy@gmail.com To: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 15:57:31 -0600 Subject: [DVHH] in need of help Hello Listers, I have not been able to find my great grandmother’s birth date and place as well as her death date and place. Her name was Rosalia Pfeiffer Eisele. Her father was Anton Pfeiffer B. 18 Nov 1815 in Kernei to Georg Pol Pfeiffer and Susanna Belowski M. 29 Sep 1843 in Karavukovo to Helena Bauer D. 21 Apr 1895 in Karavukovo Her mother was Helena Bauer B. 17 Aug 1822 in Karavukovo to Janos Bauer and AnaMarie Eckert M. 29 Sep 1843 to Anton Pfeiffer in Karavukovo D. 19 Jul 1902 in Karavukovo Rosalia was born about 1847 but I it does not appear to have been in Karavukovo. Her father was a teacher and I am told that teachers were sent to wherever there was a need. Rosalia married Ignatz Eisele on 19 July 1870 in Karavukovo. I have located the Catholic baptismal records for all nine of their children (all born in Karavukovo). I cannot find a death date for her although it was probably in Karavukovo. I have been very fortunate to find all of the other information on this family but these two missing pieces are like not having a front tooth. Thanks in advance, Kathy Kennedy --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: irene.haas@nih.gov To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 02:41:31 +0000 Subject: [DVHH] Brick Wall Help Needed: Griisser/Muller/Feil (plus spelling variations) with Papp connection and Blumenthal/Konigshoff/Deutschbentschek/Grossrememt Looking for info on the following individuals/families with the hope of learning more about my Muller/Feil/Pfeil/Grieser ancestors and/or establishing a connection to any present-day cousins. I hope this email is clear enough - trying to get my thoughts in some sense of order! 1: Heinrich Muller – born in 12 Apr 1854 – perhaps in Grossremete, Koningshof or Blumenthal. He was living in Konigshof as of 1907. We think he died in 1931, but where, we do not know. 2: Anna Feil/Pfeil. Wife of Heinrich Muller. Born Dec 1846 in ? and died in 1901, presumed Konigshof. 3. Griisser/Grusser/Grieser/Griesz, surname etc. spelling variants. (Spelled Grieser on manifests, crossed out and spelled Griisser or Grusser w/ umlau. Spelled Griisser in the States.) Michael (b. 24 July 1873) and Anna Muller Grieser (b. 24 Jan 1879_. They were married 28 Feb 1897 and definitely lived in Blumenthal and in Koningshof. Michael possibly lived in Deutschbentschek or Grossremete, as well, and his parents were George Michael or Michael George Grieser and Margaret (?). (All the family knows is that he said they moved a lot because of endless wars.) 4. Anna Muller Grieser’s sister, Marian Muller (b. 1885, d. 1969 Blumenthal) married Johann Papp and had 6 children: Lesti Papp (b. 1908, married Josef Kohl), Mari Papp (b. 1909 married Ignatz Muller), Johan Papp (b. 1911 married Anna Schuch), Filip Papp (b. 1912, married Margaret Schraudt and had a son Walter Papp), Lisi Papp (b. 1917 married Lorenz Markert), and Paul Papp (b. 1919 – d. 1944 in WWII.) All lived in Blumenthal as far we know. Perhaps descendants of these Papps have information on their maternal line of Marian Muller which ties into my direct line. Any information would be greatly appreciated – including hints on where to look for information/records. I am particularly interested in finding out if the surname Grieser (and any variants) can be found in the various family books around. That might help me zero in on where the family originally came from, knowing that they were constantly moving. Regards, Irene Haas

    06/04/2014 08:41:59
    1. [DVHH] Romanian (Banat??) breakfast
    2. Darlene Dimitrie
    3. My father is Romanian from Vladimirovac/Petersdorf/Petrovasala (Alibunar Community), today in the Serbian Banat. His town was majority Serb and minority Romanian and German, back in the days he lived there (1911-1925). This town was in the military frontier. I attended a picnic held annually by people from his hometown and was quite surprised by the breakfast food. There was bread, feta cheese, giant tomatoes, giant green onions, some kind of barbequed pork that looked awful and fatty but tasted great - the meal was really good but I'd never seen anything quite like this for breakfast. Was curious if this was a typical Banat breakfast for all ethnic groups? Oops, forgot about the mamaliga, some kind of mushy cornmeal dish. For dinner, the main food was roasted pig. -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html

    06/04/2014 06:28:01