Hello, I am trying to follow the instructions to look up the Mormon information on family or.com and am running into a difficulty. After I go to search, catalog, Orczfalva, I don't know where to go next. The directions that someone posted say to keep clicking until I find that sentence until you can read the records online. But that is where I get lost. Can someone give me more detailed instructions from this point please? Thanks, Julie Sent from my iPad > On Jul 7, 2014, at 1:00 AM, donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > To respond to a Digest Mode message, click reply, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE TO REFLECT THE TOPIC - then delete any postings/text not specific to the message you are responding to. Otherwise it could cause your message to be too long and not get posted. Your cooperation is appreciated. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [DS] Traveling to Serbia and visitng Heufeld and Neuberg > an der Bega (Rita Schiwanowitsch) > 2. Re: Fw: Orzyfalva info please (Susan Sander) > 3. Re: Fw: Orzyfalva info please (Susan Sander) > 4. Re: [DS] Traveling to Serbia and visitng Heufeld and Neuberg > an der Bega (wknuttel@aol.com) > 5. Translation help (Jim and Jean Hagen) > 6. info (Barb D) > 7. Weisskirchen - before 1804 (Walter Sucher) > 8. Re: Fw: Orzyfalva info please (mep) > 9. Translate (Anne Dreer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 06:35:20 -0600 > From: Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] [DS] Traveling to Serbia and visitng Heufeld and > Neuberg an der Bega > To: "gmcopeland@aol.com" <gmcopeland@aol.com>, > "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU172-W500905EA1A79533BB4680ED4020@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Gwen, > > The people on this list are most helpful. Some members are made the trip there also and can give you better advise on the specific areas you are looking for. My families are near the Pancevo area much closer to Belgrade. The people on this list may even be able to give you better advise on house numbers as some of the villages have old maps available. I will forward you questions to this list in hopes of better responses for you. Hopefully they will respond to you directly.... instead of on the list. > > Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Rita > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:19:48 -0700 >> To: donauschwaben-l@genealogy.net >> From: donauschwaben-l@genealogy.net >> Subject: [DS] Traveling to Serbia and visitng Heufeld and Neuberg an der Bega >> >> >>> Hello List: >>> I am seeking your travel advice! I suddenly find myself traveling to Serbia shortly, and am able to spend one day up near the Romanian border, near Kikinda. I have a Belgrade youth willing to bring me there at my request. My problem is that I've been out of my genealogy research for so long, that this sudden trip has caught me off guard, and I'm not sure where to tell him to take me. Any advice? >>> >>> Here is what I remember: >>> Great Grandfather, Chrisof BUERGER is from Nagy Tozeg/Heufeld (out of Matias BUERGER and Magdalena NOEL) >>> Great Grandmother, Magdelene KLINGER is from Ujvar/Neuberg an der Bega, (d. of Jacob KLINGER and Ana ZAHRINGER) >>> Magdalena was born in house 28, which is where her grandfather also passed. >>> >>> Is it an easy trip to visit both towns (one in Serbia and one in Romania?) >>> How can I find where house 28 was in Neuberg an der Bega, so I can try and see it today? >>> Where are the german cemeteries for these cities? Will I be able to recognize names? (I remember they are not cared for). >>> >>> These are small towns, what would you recommend? >>> >>> Gwen Olsen in Oregon, USA >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Donauschwaben-L mailing list >> Donauschwaben-L@genealogy.net >> http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/donauschwaben-l > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 12:55:32 -0400 > From: Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > To: mep <res00fr1@gmail.com> > Cc: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY179-W5CCDC8420522B7698C315C7020@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Happy to possibly help someone. Orczyfalva is particularly hard to research > because of the lack of later records necessary to make connections. > > You mention the name Stadler .... where have you searched prior to this. > Have you looked for manifests, etc.? > > I don't remember seeing any posts regarding this surname. It's worth a try > as there are many helpers on this list. > > Susan > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > From: res00fr1@gmail.com > To: swan1200@hotmail.com > CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Thanks for posting this. > > This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. > > I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I have found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I did > > write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... > > there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. > > > > You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by > > going to: www.familysearch.org > > > > Under search, go to Catalog > > > > Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film > > and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. > > Be sure the spell the village as above. > > > > Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man > > > > Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch > > > > I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... > > Magdalena b. about 1835 > > > > Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. > > Let me know if you need further help finding the records. > > > > Susan > > > >> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > >> From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > >> To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- > >> From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > >> To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > >> Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- > >> From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > >> To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" <DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > > >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > >> Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > >> Hi, > > >> I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and Apolonia Fisch. > > > >> Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > >> Thanks, > >> Pat > >> Ontario, Canada > > > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 13:01:44 -0400 > From: Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > To: mep <res00fr1@gmail.com> > Cc: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY179-W95A6AE0E55D9AB305F2917C7020@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Not sure if you have seen Dave Dreyer's manifest list. I just checked and > found three entries with the name Stadler. I will try and cut and paste for > you. > > STADLER Anna -[S334 ]- Age: 22 -From: Detta > -DtAr: > Wednesday, 10 Oct 1906 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Slavonia > > -Note: Accompanied by daughter, Rozalia 2, both born in Detta. Going to join > husband, Isador Szadler. > > > > STADLER Isador -[S334 ]- Age: 30 -From: Detta > -DtAr: > Sunday, 23 Jul 1905 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Pannonia > > > STADLER Peter -[S334]- Age: 39 > -From: Warjasch > -DtAr: Thursday, 13 Jun 1907 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: > Ham/NY -Ship: Pres Lincoln > -Note: Born in Warjasch. Accompanied by wife, > Barbara 38, born in Kleinsiedel and son Daniel 10/12, born in Geczi(?). Going to > join bro-in-law, Jakob Kirsch. Last residence, Ketfel. > > It appears as if Dave is continuing ot add new information as he find it. > > Hope this is helpful. Susan > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > From: res00fr1@gmail.com > To: swan1200@hotmail.com > CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Thanks for posting this. > > This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. > > I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I have found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I did > > write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... > > there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. > > > > You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by > > going to: www.familysearch.org > > > > Under search, go to Catalog > > > > Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film > > and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. > > Be sure the spell the village as above. > > > > Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man > > > > Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch > > > > I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... > > Magdalena b. about 1835 > > > > Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. > > Let me know if you need further help finding the records. > > > > Susan > > > >> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > >> From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > >> To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- > >> From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > >> To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > >> Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- > >> From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > >> To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" <DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > > >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > >> Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > >> Hi, > > >> I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and Apolonia Fisch. > > > >> Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > >> Thanks, > >> Pat > >> Ontario, Canada > > > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 15:00:23 -0400 (EDT) > From: wknuttel@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] [DS] Traveling to Serbia and visitng Heufeld and > Neuberg an der Bega > To: schiwanore@msn.com, gmcopeland@aol.com, > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D16763ACF4C98F-FCC-8683@webmail-vd008.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Gwen, > I haven't been in Serbia for many years (since the time just before the revolution in the early 90s, I think it was). If you are traveling with a Serb, that can be very helpful! But with only one day, maybe it's better to visit Heufeld only, unless your Serbian guide can arrange the Romanian visit for you and make it easy. Hopefully your Serb guide will make it possible to visit the villages without any suspicion. When I traveled alone there, a few people were helpful, but many seemed wary of contact with me--this was in St. Hubert, which is nearby Heufeld. It may have been the language barrier, but there was also a clear "these are Germanic types searching for their ancestors" kind of thing going on. It was a very tense time there, however, and I can say that for the most part it seemed like good people there, living under a difficult situation. > > > Sadly, most of the cemeteries are either completely gone, or are in ruins where you might find an occasional headstone exposed. That was 20+ years ago, and maybe the situation is worse now. I would strongly advise you to find early maps of Heufeld and Neuberg to see the house numbers, as I'm pretty sure nothing will correspond to current addresses. But you will probably find the house not much different than when your ancestors were there! Maybe you can find a map in a family book, or someone on this list can perhaps assist you with the old layout of the town. > > > Okay, that's just some general idea...good luck! > Bill Knuttel > Napa > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com> > To: gmcopeland <gmcopeland@aol.com>; donauschwaben-villages <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Jul 6, 2014 5:40 am > Subject: Re: [DVHH] [DS] Traveling to Serbia and visitng Heufeld and Neuberg an der Bega > > > Hi Gwen, > > The people on this list are most helpful. Some members are made the trip there > also and can give you better advise on the specific areas you are looking for. > My families are near the Pancevo area much closer to Belgrade. The people on > this list may even be able to give you better advise on house numbers as some of > the villages have old maps available. I will forward you questions to this list > in hopes of better responses for you. Hopefully they will respond to you > directly.... instead of on the list. > > Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Rita > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:19:48 -0700 >> To: donauschwaben-l@genealogy.net >> From: donauschwaben-l@genealogy.net >> Subject: [DS] Traveling to Serbia and visitng Heufeld and Neuberg an der Bega >> >> >>> Hello List: >>> I am seeking your travel advice! I suddenly find myself traveling to Serbia > shortly, and am able to spend one day up near the Romanian border, near Kikinda. > I have a Belgrade youth willing to bring me there at my request. My problem is > that I've been out of my genealogy research for so long, that this sudden trip > has caught me off guard, and I'm not sure where to tell him to take me. Any > advice? >>> >>> Here is what I remember: >>> Great Grandfather, Chrisof BUERGER is from Nagy Tozeg/Heufeld (out of Matias > BUERGER and Magdalena NOEL) >>> Great Grandmother, Magdelene KLINGER is from Ujvar/Neuberg an der Bega, (d. > of Jacob KLINGER and Ana ZAHRINGER) >>> Magdalena was born in house 28, which is where her grandfather also passed. >>> >>> Is it an easy trip to visit both towns (one in Serbia and one in Romania?) >>> How can I find where house 28 was in Neuberg an der Bega, so I can try and > see it today? >>> Where are the german cemeteries for these cities? Will I be able to > recognize names? (I remember they are not cared for). >>> >>> These are small towns, what would you recommend? >>> >>> Gwen Olsen in Oregon, USA >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Donauschwaben-L mailing list >> Donauschwaben-L@genealogy.net >> http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/donauschwaben-l > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 15:02:36 -0400 > From: Jim and Jean Hagen <mrmrsgtx@tds.net> > Subject: [DVHH] Translation help > To: DVHH MAIL LIST <Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <53B99D4C.3080301@tds.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello, I have an email in German. It's from a Hans Repp. He has a > Familienbuch on my Grandmother's village Klek. His first email was short > and I think I read it correctly along with names and dates of my > Grandmother's family. I used a translator and got the general > message. He was nice enough to send only the information I needed from > his CD. Not of all the records were in his first email. So he sent me > another meassage with more information. My second message from him is > longer. Is there someone that would translate this for me? > Thanks, > Jean Hagen > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 15:44:09 -0500 > From: "Barb D" <bbd2424@gmail.com> > Subject: [DVHH] info > To: "DVHH" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <C515A5755DDC4516B874338292DB647D@BarbHP> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi All Listers, > I am looking for any info on the town of Deutschsanktmichael (also know as Nemetszentmihaly, Zilasch, sanmihaiu) in Romania .( At one time I think Austria-Hungary) > Maps, pictures, records,house # and location. > My grandparents and Mother are from there. BRATAN, JUNGER, KOST, LEIMETTER, FRESZ so I would like to get as much info about the town as I can. > > Also BRATAN in Vizejdia(Wiseschdia) any info about there or about them. > Also BRATAN (BRATTAN) in Vojtek(voiteg) and info about there or them > I am not sure where any of the families are from before Deutschsanktmichael. Except for BRATAN. > > I would be very thankful for anything or anyone could contribute. I figure if I get more info on the towns, it might lead me somewhere. > Thanks, > Barb D. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 23:12:57 +0200 > From: Walter Sucher <walter.sucher@t-online.de> > Subject: [DVHH] Weisskirchen - before 1804 > To: "DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com" > <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <210A33D8-24E4-440E-829F-682AE6410B30@t-online.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I suddenly find me to visit Weisskirchen in 10 days, the 'town' my ancestor Valentin Sucher was born in 1803... I know his father's name was Domenicus, but that's about it. Would love to find out more about Domenicus and the others in Weisskirchen somehow.... Any advice pleeeeese???? > > Walter Sucher > Eichenallee 15 > 14050 Berlin > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 14:26:34 -0700 > From: mep <res00fr1@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > To: Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> > Cc: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CABwfzNqMVSAgLjM_UtAP10R5ab7baNoFxgTvPBki8R6w+3dO0g@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Thanks to all for responding. Yes, I've been there. Anna, nee Buchmann, > and Isador are my relatives. The Buchmanns I have back to the late 17th > century in the Rhine-Pfatz. The problem is Isador. Where did he come > from? The oral history from my aunt was that he lived "on the other side > of the mountain" from Deta before marrying Anna Buchmann. Looking at the > topographical maps from Google, I can see hills but no mountains and > Orczyfalva seems to be over one of these hills. There is also the family > rumor that he or his family were Jewish and converted to Catholicism to > avoid any antisemitism. > > Since I have so little to go on, I do not ask for specific help because I > feel it would be too much to ask when I can only "shotgun" around. So I > read as much as I can find so that I can ask more specific questions. > > BTW, there are no Stadlers in the Anton Kraemer family book for Deta. I > credit that information as coming from Dave Dreyer. He has been most > helpful. > > Marty > > > > >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Not sure if you have seen Dave Dreyer's manifest list. I just checked and >> found three entries with the name Stadler. I will try and cut and paste >> for >> you. >> >> *STADLER Anna **-[S334 *]- Age: 22 -From: Detta >> -DtAr: Wednesday, 10 Oct 1906 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: >> Slavonia >> -Note: Accompanied by daughter, Rozalia 2, both born in Detta. Going to >> join husband, Isador Szadler. >> >> >> *STADLER Isador **-[S334 *]- Age: 30 -From: Detta >> -DtAr: Sunday, 23 Jul 1905 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: >> Pannonia >> >> *STADLER Peter *-[S334]- Age: 39 -From: Warjasch >> -DtAr: Thursday, 13 Jun 1907 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: >> Pres Lincoln >> -Note: Born in Warjasch. Accompanied by wife, Barbara 38, born in >> Kleinsiedel and son Daniel 10/12, born in Geczi(?). Going to join >> bro-in-law, Jakob Kirsch. Last residence, Ketfel. >> >> It appears as if Dave is continuing ot add new information as he find it. >> >> Hope this is helpful. Susan >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please >> From: res00fr1@gmail.com >> To: swan1200@hotmail.com >> CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> >> Thanks for posting this. >> >> This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. >> >> I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I >> have found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I >> did >> write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... >> there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. >> >> You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by >> going to: www.familysearch.org >> >> Under search, go to Catalog >> >> Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film >> and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. >> Be sure the spell the village as above. >> >> Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man >> >> Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch >> >> I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... >> Magdalena b. about 1835 >> >> Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. >> Let me know if you need further help finding the records. >> >> Susan >> >>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 >>> From: pjford10@yahoo.ca >>> To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >>> From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> >>> To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" < >> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM >>> Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >>> From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> >>> To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" < >> DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM >>> Subject: Orzyfalva info please >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of >> Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed >> to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and Apolonia >> Fisch. >>> >>> Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Pat >>> Ontario, Canada >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 17:38:09 -0400 > From: Anne Dreer <dreera@sympatico.ca> > Subject: [DVHH] Translate > To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP1926DBCBFF528D123DD4EA9B4020@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello Jean, > I can translate your German information for you. Just send it to me. > Anne Dreer > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 183 > ******************************************************

Thanks! does it have different names than the Stadlers books? Barb D. From: Susan Sander Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:55 AM To: Barb D ; mep Cc: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please The W&K refers to the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner records of people travelling through and registering in Vienna on their way to the Banat et al. It can be rented at the Mormons on film; I have a CD which I purchased several years ago from Dave Dreyer ... he may still be willing to make more copies. In general it is only useful when you researched as far back as you can ... or if you are at a brickwall and have no idea of where to search. Susan > From: bbd2424@gmail.com > To: swan1200@hotmail.com; res00fr1@gmail.com > CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:19:44 -0500 > > Hi Susan, > Could you please tell me what the W&K is? Also where do I get it? > Thanks, > Barb D > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Sander > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:06 AM > To: mep > Cc: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > Marty -- I took a few minutes to give you an idea of what I could find in > the W&K .... > > I have not found Isadore ... but that is probably because he came later or > was born in the Banat. > > Two early Stadler's who arrived in 1766 are: > > Johann Ferdinand Stadler p. 75 -- von (of) herberding aus dem (out of) > Luxembourg > > Johann Stadler p. 72 - von (of) Dueibelspach aus of (out of) the Holy Roman > Empire of the German Nation > > I have not researched these locations ... spellings are as best as I could > read in the old script. > > There are three more I will check later: Mathias p. 273; Paul p. 153; > Thomas p. 148 > > I know this is not what you were looking for ... but it is an idea of where > this clan came from. > > Susan > > > > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 14:26:34 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > From: res00fr1@gmail.com > To: swan1200@hotmail.com > CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Thanks to all for responding. Yes, I've been there. Anna, nee Buchmann, > and Isador are my relatives. The Buchmanns I have back to the late 17th > century in the Rhine-Pfatz. The problem is Isador. Where did he come > from? The oral history from my aunt was that he lived "on the other side of > the mountain" from Deta before marrying Anna Buchmann. Looking at the > topographical maps from Google, I can see hills but no mountains and > Orczyfalva seems to be over one of these hills. There is also the family > rumor that he or his family were Jewish and converted to Catholicism to > avoid any antisemitism. > > > Since I have so little to go on, I do not ask for specific help because I > feel it would be too much to ask when I can only "shotgun" around. So I > read as much as I can find so that I can ask more specific questions. > > > BTW, there are no Stadlers in the Anton Kraemer family book for Deta. I > credit that information as coming from Dave Dreyer. He has been most > helpful. > > Marty > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Not sure if you have seen Dave Dreyer's manifest list. I just checked and > found three entries with the name Stadler. I will try and cut and paste > for > you. > > STADLER Anna -[S334 ]- Age: 22 -From: Detta > > -DtAr: > Wednesday, 10 Oct 1906 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Slavonia > > -Note: Accompanied by daughter, Rozalia 2, both born in Detta. Going to join > husband, Isador Szadler. > > > > STADLER Isador -[S334 ]- Age: 30 -From: Detta > > -DtAr: > Sunday, 23 Jul 1905 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Pannonia > > > STADLER Peter -[S334]- Age: 39 > -From: Warjasch > -DtAr: Thursday, 13 Jun 1907 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: > Ham/NY -Ship: Pres Lincoln > -Note: Born in Warjasch. Accompanied by wife, > Barbara 38, born in Kleinsiedel and son Daniel 10/12, born in Geczi(?). > Going to > join bro-in-law, Jakob Kirsch. Last residence, Ketfel. > > It appears as if Dave is continuing ot add new information as he find it. > > > Hope this is helpful. Susan > > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > From: res00fr1@gmail.com > To: swan1200@hotmail.com > > CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > Thanks for posting this. > > This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. > > I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I have > found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I > did > > write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... > > there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. > > > > You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by > > going to: www.familysearch.org > > > > Under search, go to Catalog > > > > Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film > > and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. > > Be sure the spell the village as above. > > > > Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man > > > > Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch > > > > I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... > > Magdalena b. about 1835 > > > > Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. > > Let me know if you need further help finding the records. > > > > Susan > > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > > > From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > > > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > > > To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" > > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > > > Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > > > To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" > > <DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > > > Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of > > Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed > > to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and > > Apolonia Fisch. > > > > > > > > Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Pat > > > Ontario, Canada > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The W&K refers to the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner records of people travelling through and registering in Vienna on their way to the Banat et al. It can be rented at the Mormons on film; I have a CD which I purchased several years ago from Dave Dreyer ... he may still be willing to make more copies. In general it is only useful when you researched as far back as you can ... or if you are at a brickwall and have no idea of where to search. Susan > From: bbd2424@gmail.com > To: swan1200@hotmail.com; res00fr1@gmail.com > CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:19:44 -0500 > > Hi Susan, > Could you please tell me what the W&K is? Also where do I get it? > Thanks, > Barb D > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Sander > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:06 AM > To: mep > Cc: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > Marty -- I took a few minutes to give you an idea of what I could find in > the W&K .... > > I have not found Isadore ... but that is probably because he came later or > was born in the Banat. > > Two early Stadler's who arrived in 1766 are: > > Johann Ferdinand Stadler p. 75 -- von (of) herberding aus dem (out of) > Luxembourg > > Johann Stadler p. 72 - von (of) Dueibelspach aus of (out of) the Holy Roman > Empire of the German Nation > > I have not researched these locations ... spellings are as best as I could > read in the old script. > > There are three more I will check later: Mathias p. 273; Paul p. 153; > Thomas p. 148 > > I know this is not what you were looking for ... but it is an idea of where > this clan came from. > > Susan > > > > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 14:26:34 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > From: res00fr1@gmail.com > To: swan1200@hotmail.com > CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Thanks to all for responding. Yes, I've been there. Anna, nee Buchmann, > and Isador are my relatives. The Buchmanns I have back to the late 17th > century in the Rhine-Pfatz. The problem is Isador. Where did he come > from? The oral history from my aunt was that he lived "on the other side of > the mountain" from Deta before marrying Anna Buchmann. Looking at the > topographical maps from Google, I can see hills but no mountains and > Orczyfalva seems to be over one of these hills. There is also the family > rumor that he or his family were Jewish and converted to Catholicism to > avoid any antisemitism. > > > Since I have so little to go on, I do not ask for specific help because I > feel it would be too much to ask when I can only "shotgun" around. So I > read as much as I can find so that I can ask more specific questions. > > > BTW, there are no Stadlers in the Anton Kraemer family book for Deta. I > credit that information as coming from Dave Dreyer. He has been most > helpful. > > Marty > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Not sure if you have seen Dave Dreyer's manifest list. I just checked and > found three entries with the name Stadler. I will try and cut and paste > for > you. > > STADLER Anna -[S334 ]- Age: 22 -From: Detta > > -DtAr: > Wednesday, 10 Oct 1906 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Slavonia > > -Note: Accompanied by daughter, Rozalia 2, both born in Detta. Going to join > husband, Isador Szadler. > > > > STADLER Isador -[S334 ]- Age: 30 -From: Detta > > -DtAr: > Sunday, 23 Jul 1905 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Pannonia > > > STADLER Peter -[S334]- Age: 39 > -From: Warjasch > -DtAr: Thursday, 13 Jun 1907 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: > Ham/NY -Ship: Pres Lincoln > -Note: Born in Warjasch. Accompanied by wife, > Barbara 38, born in Kleinsiedel and son Daniel 10/12, born in Geczi(?). > Going to > join bro-in-law, Jakob Kirsch. Last residence, Ketfel. > > It appears as if Dave is continuing ot add new information as he find it. > > > Hope this is helpful. Susan > > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > From: res00fr1@gmail.com > To: swan1200@hotmail.com > > CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > Thanks for posting this. > > This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. > > I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I have > found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I > did > > write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... > > there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. > > > > You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by > > going to: www.familysearch.org > > > > Under search, go to Catalog > > > > Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film > > and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. > > Be sure the spell the village as above. > > > > Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man > > > > Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch > > > > I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... > > Magdalena b. about 1835 > > > > Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. > > Let me know if you need further help finding the records. > > > > Susan > > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > > > From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > > > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > > > To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" > > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > > > Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > > > To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" > > <DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > > > Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of > > Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed > > to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and > > Apolonia Fisch. > > > > > > > > Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Pat > > > Ontario, Canada > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marty -- I took a few minutes to give you an idea of what I could find in the W&K .... I have not found Isadore ... but that is probably because he came later or was born in the Banat. Two early Stadler's who arrived in 1766 are: Johann Ferdinand Stadler p. 75 -- von (of) herberding aus dem (out of) Luxembourg Johann Stadler p. 72 - von (of) Dueibelspach aus of (out of) the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation I have not researched these locations ... spellings are as best as I could read in the old script. There are three more I will check later: Mathias p. 273; Paul p. 153; Thomas p. 148 I know this is not what you were looking for ... but it is an idea of where this clan came from. Susan Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 14:26:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please From: res00fr1@gmail.com To: swan1200@hotmail.com CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Thanks to all for responding. Yes, I've been there. Anna, nee Buchmann, and Isador are my relatives. The Buchmanns I have back to the late 17th century in the Rhine-Pfatz. The problem is Isador. Where did he come from? The oral history from my aunt was that he lived "on the other side of the mountain" from Deta before marrying Anna Buchmann. Looking at the topographical maps from Google, I can see hills but no mountains and Orczyfalva seems to be over one of these hills. There is also the family rumor that he or his family were Jewish and converted to Catholicism to avoid any antisemitism. Since I have so little to go on, I do not ask for specific help because I feel it would be too much to ask when I can only "shotgun" around. So I read as much as I can find so that I can ask more specific questions. BTW, there are no Stadlers in the Anton Kraemer family book for Deta. I credit that information as coming from Dave Dreyer. He has been most helpful. Marty On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: Not sure if you have seen Dave Dreyer's manifest list. I just checked and found three entries with the name Stadler. I will try and cut and paste for you. STADLER Anna -[S334 ]- Age: 22 -From: Detta -DtAr: Wednesday, 10 Oct 1906 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Slavonia -Note: Accompanied by daughter, Rozalia 2, both born in Detta. Going to join husband, Isador Szadler. STADLER Isador -[S334 ]- Age: 30 -From: Detta -DtAr: Sunday, 23 Jul 1905 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Pannonia STADLER Peter -[S334]- Age: 39 -From: Warjasch -DtAr: Thursday, 13 Jun 1907 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: Pres Lincoln -Note: Born in Warjasch. Accompanied by wife, Barbara 38, born in Kleinsiedel and son Daniel 10/12, born in Geczi(?). Going to join bro-in-law, Jakob Kirsch. Last residence, Ketfel. It appears as if Dave is continuing ot add new information as he find it. Hope this is helpful. Susan Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please From: res00fr1@gmail.com To: swan1200@hotmail.com CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Thanks for posting this. This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I have found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I did write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by going to: www.familysearch.org Under search, go to Catalog Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. Be sure the spell the village as above. Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... Magdalena b. about 1835 Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. Let me know if you need further help finding the records. Susan > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" <DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > Hi, > > I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and Apolonia Fisch. > > Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Pat > Ontario, Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Susan, Could you please tell me what the W&K is? Also where do I get it? Thanks, Barb D -----Original Message----- From: Susan Sander Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:06 AM To: mep Cc: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please Marty -- I took a few minutes to give you an idea of what I could find in the W&K .... I have not found Isadore ... but that is probably because he came later or was born in the Banat. Two early Stadler's who arrived in 1766 are: Johann Ferdinand Stadler p. 75 -- von (of) herberding aus dem (out of) Luxembourg Johann Stadler p. 72 - von (of) Dueibelspach aus of (out of) the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation I have not researched these locations ... spellings are as best as I could read in the old script. There are three more I will check later: Mathias p. 273; Paul p. 153; Thomas p. 148 I know this is not what you were looking for ... but it is an idea of where this clan came from. Susan Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 14:26:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please From: res00fr1@gmail.com To: swan1200@hotmail.com CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Thanks to all for responding. Yes, I've been there. Anna, nee Buchmann, and Isador are my relatives. The Buchmanns I have back to the late 17th century in the Rhine-Pfatz. The problem is Isador. Where did he come from? The oral history from my aunt was that he lived "on the other side of the mountain" from Deta before marrying Anna Buchmann. Looking at the topographical maps from Google, I can see hills but no mountains and Orczyfalva seems to be over one of these hills. There is also the family rumor that he or his family were Jewish and converted to Catholicism to avoid any antisemitism. Since I have so little to go on, I do not ask for specific help because I feel it would be too much to ask when I can only "shotgun" around. So I read as much as I can find so that I can ask more specific questions. BTW, there are no Stadlers in the Anton Kraemer family book for Deta. I credit that information as coming from Dave Dreyer. He has been most helpful. Marty On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: Not sure if you have seen Dave Dreyer's manifest list. I just checked and found three entries with the name Stadler. I will try and cut and paste for you. STADLER Anna -[S334 ]- Age: 22 -From: Detta -DtAr: Wednesday, 10 Oct 1906 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Slavonia -Note: Accompanied by daughter, Rozalia 2, both born in Detta. Going to join husband, Isador Szadler. STADLER Isador -[S334 ]- Age: 30 -From: Detta -DtAr: Sunday, 23 Jul 1905 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Pannonia STADLER Peter -[S334]- Age: 39 -From: Warjasch -DtAr: Thursday, 13 Jun 1907 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: Pres Lincoln -Note: Born in Warjasch. Accompanied by wife, Barbara 38, born in Kleinsiedel and son Daniel 10/12, born in Geczi(?). Going to join bro-in-law, Jakob Kirsch. Last residence, Ketfel. It appears as if Dave is continuing ot add new information as he find it. Hope this is helpful. Susan Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please From: res00fr1@gmail.com To: swan1200@hotmail.com CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Thanks for posting this. This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I have found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I did write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by going to: www.familysearch.org Under search, go to Catalog Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. Be sure the spell the village as above. Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... Magdalena b. about 1835 Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. Let me know if you need further help finding the records. Susan > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" > <DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > Hi, > > I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of > Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed > to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and > Apolonia Fisch. > > Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Pat > Ontario, Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan, Thank you for the information. I have very little information about Isador, just birth date (1875) and marriage date (1903). I was "cold" contacted years ago by someone in Romania that claimed to be able to get a copy of the marriage certificate from records in Detta. He wrote Isador's parents were Marton and Rozalia. I was hesitant to pay for this information. The names fit the family though, one of Isador's children were named Rozalia and another Martin (hence my given name). The rest if their children had given names matching Anna's direct relatives. I've been at this brick wall for years. When my wife retires, I plan on visiting Detta to see for myself what I can find out. Marty On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: > The W&K refers to the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner records of people travelling > through and registering in Vienna on their way to the Banat et al. > > It can be rented at the Mormons on film; I have a CD which I purchased > several years ago from Dave Dreyer ... he may still be willing to make more > copies. > > In general it is only useful when you researched as far back as you can > ... or > if you are at a brickwall and have no idea of where to search. > > Susan > > > From: bbd2424@gmail.com > > To: swan1200@hotmail.com; res00fr1@gmail.com > > CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:19:44 -0500 > > > > > Hi Susan, > > Could you please tell me what the W&K is? Also where do I get it? > > Thanks, > > Barb D > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Susan Sander > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 11:06 AM > > To: mep > > Cc: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > Marty -- I took a few minutes to give you an idea of what I could find > in > > the W&K .... > > > > I have not found Isadore ... but that is probably because he came later > or > > was born in the Banat. > > > > Two early Stadler's who arrived in 1766 are: > > > > Johann Ferdinand Stadler p. 75 -- von (of) herberding aus dem (out of) > > Luxembourg > > > > Johann Stadler p. 72 - von (of) Dueibelspach aus of (out of) the Holy > Roman > > Empire of the German Nation > > > > I have not researched these locations ... spellings are as best as I > could > > read in the old script. > > > > There are three more I will check later: Mathias p. 273; Paul p. 153; > > Thomas p. 148 > > > > I know this is not what you were looking for ... but it is an idea of > where > > this clan came from. > > > > Susan > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 14:26:34 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > From: res00fr1@gmail.com > > To: swan1200@hotmail.com > > CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > Thanks to all for responding. Yes, I've been there. Anna, nee Buchmann, > > and Isador are my relatives. The Buchmanns I have back to the late 17th > > century in the Rhine-Pfatz. The problem is Isador. Where did he come > > from? The oral history from my aunt was that he lived "on the other side > of > > the mountain" from Deta before marrying Anna Buchmann. Looking at the > > topographical maps from Google, I can see hills but no mountains and > > Orczyfalva seems to be over one of these hills. There is also the family > > rumor that he or his family were Jewish and converted to Catholicism to > > avoid any antisemitism. > > > > > > Since I have so little to go on, I do not ask for specific help because > I > > feel it would be too much to ask when I can only "shotgun" around. So I > > read as much as I can find so that I can ask more specific questions. > > > > > > BTW, there are no Stadlers in the Anton Kraemer family book for Deta. I > > credit that information as coming from Dave Dreyer. He has been most > > helpful. > > > > Marty > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Not sure if you have seen Dave Dreyer's manifest list. I just checked and > > found three entries with the name Stadler. I will try and cut and paste > > for > > you. > > > > STADLER Anna -[S334 ]- Age: 22 -From: Detta > > > > -DtAr: > > Wednesday, 10 Oct 1906 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Slavonia > > > > -Note: Accompanied by daughter, Rozalia 2, both born in Detta. Going to > join > > husband, Isador Szadler. > > > > > > > > STADLER Isador -[S334 ]- Age: 30 -From: Detta > > > > -DtAr: > > Sunday, 23 Jul 1905 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Pannonia > > > > > > STADLER Peter -[S334]- Age: 39 > > -From: Warjasch > > -DtAr: Thursday, 13 Jun 1907 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: > > Ham/NY -Ship: Pres Lincoln > > -Note: Born in Warjasch. Accompanied by wife, > > Barbara 38, born in Kleinsiedel and son Daniel 10/12, born in Geczi(?). > > Going to > > join bro-in-law, Jakob Kirsch. Last residence, Ketfel. > > > > It appears as if Dave is continuing ot add new information as he find it. > > > > > > Hope this is helpful. Susan > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > From: res00fr1@gmail.com > > To: swan1200@hotmail.com > > > > CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Thanks for posting this. > > > > This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. > > > > I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I > have > > found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think > I > > did > > > > write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... > > > > there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. > > > > > > > > You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by > > > > going to: www.familysearch.org > > > > > > > > Under search, go to Catalog > > > > > > > > Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on > film > > > > and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. > > > > Be sure the spell the village as above. > > > > > > > > Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man > > > > > > > > Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch > > > > > > > > I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... > > > > Magdalena b. about 1835 > > > > > > > > Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. > > > > Let me know if you need further help finding the records. > > > > > > > > Susan > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > > > > > From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > > > > > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > > Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > > > > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > > > > > To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" > > > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > > > > > Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > > > > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > > > > > To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" > > > <DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > > > > > Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of > > > Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is > believed > > > to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and > > > Apolonia Fisch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Pat > > > > > Ontario, Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I suddenly find me to visit Weisskirchen in 10 days, the 'town' my ancestor Valentin Sucher was born in 1803... I know his father's name was Domenicus, but that's about it. Would love to find out more about Domenicus and the others in Weisskirchen somehow.... Any advice pleeeeese???? Walter Sucher Eichenallee 15 14050 Berlin

Hello Jean, I can translate your German information for you. Just send it to me. Anne Dreer

Hi All Listers, I am looking for any info on the town of Deutschsanktmichael (also know as Nemetszentmihaly, Zilasch, sanmihaiu) in Romania .( At one time I think Austria-Hungary) Maps, pictures, records,house # and location. My grandparents and Mother are from there. BRATAN, JUNGER, KOST, LEIMETTER, FRESZ so I would like to get as much info about the town as I can. Also BRATAN in Vizejdia(Wiseschdia) any info about there or about them. Also BRATAN (BRATTAN) in Vojtek(voiteg) and info about there or them I am not sure where any of the families are from before Deutschsanktmichael. Except for BRATAN. I would be very thankful for anything or anyone could contribute. I figure if I get more info on the towns, it might lead me somewhere. Thanks, Barb D.

Hello, I have an email in German. It's from a Hans Repp. He has a Familienbuch on my Grandmother's village Klek. His first email was short and I think I read it correctly along with names and dates of my Grandmother's family. I used a translator and got the general message. He was nice enough to send only the information I needed from his CD. Not of all the records were in his first email. So he sent me another meassage with more information. My second message from him is longer. Is there someone that would translate this for me? Thanks, Jean Hagen

Gwen, I haven't been in Serbia for many years (since the time just before the revolution in the early 90s, I think it was). If you are traveling with a Serb, that can be very helpful! But with only one day, maybe it's better to visit Heufeld only, unless your Serbian guide can arrange the Romanian visit for you and make it easy. Hopefully your Serb guide will make it possible to visit the villages without any suspicion. When I traveled alone there, a few people were helpful, but many seemed wary of contact with me--this was in St. Hubert, which is nearby Heufeld. It may have been the language barrier, but there was also a clear "these are Germanic types searching for their ancestors" kind of thing going on. It was a very tense time there, however, and I can say that for the most part it seemed like good people there, living under a difficult situation. Sadly, most of the cemeteries are either completely gone, or are in ruins where you might find an occasional headstone exposed. That was 20+ years ago, and maybe the situation is worse now. I would strongly advise you to find early maps of Heufeld and Neuberg to see the house numbers, as I'm pretty sure nothing will correspond to current addresses. But you will probably find the house not much different than when your ancestors were there! Maybe you can find a map in a family book, or someone on this list can perhaps assist you with the old layout of the town. Okay, that's just some general idea...good luck! Bill Knuttel Napa -----Original Message----- From: Rita Schiwanowitsch <schiwanore@msn.com> To: gmcopeland <gmcopeland@aol.com>; donauschwaben-villages <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Jul 6, 2014 5:40 am Subject: Re: [DVHH] [DS] Traveling to Serbia and visitng Heufeld and Neuberg an der Bega Hi Gwen, The people on this list are most helpful. Some members are made the trip there also and can give you better advise on the specific areas you are looking for. My families are near the Pancevo area much closer to Belgrade. The people on this list may even be able to give you better advise on house numbers as some of the villages have old maps available. I will forward you questions to this list in hopes of better responses for you. Hopefully they will respond to you directly.... instead of on the list. Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Rita > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:19:48 -0700 > To: donauschwaben-l@genealogy.net > From: donauschwaben-l@genealogy.net > Subject: [DS] Traveling to Serbia and visitng Heufeld and Neuberg an der Bega > > > > Hello List: > > I am seeking your travel advice! I suddenly find myself traveling to Serbia shortly, and am able to spend one day up near the Romanian border, near Kikinda. I have a Belgrade youth willing to bring me there at my request. My problem is that I've been out of my genealogy research for so long, that this sudden trip has caught me off guard, and I'm not sure where to tell him to take me. Any advice? > > > > Here is what I remember: > > Great Grandfather, Chrisof BUERGER is from Nagy Tozeg/Heufeld (out of Matias BUERGER and Magdalena NOEL) > > Great Grandmother, Magdelene KLINGER is from Ujvar/Neuberg an der Bega, (d. of Jacob KLINGER and Ana ZAHRINGER) > > Magdalena was born in house 28, which is where her grandfather also passed. > > > > Is it an easy trip to visit both towns (one in Serbia and one in Romania?) > > How can I find where house 28 was in Neuberg an der Bega, so I can try and see it today? > > Where are the german cemeteries for these cities? Will I be able to recognize names? (I remember they are not cared for). > > > > These are small towns, what would you recommend? > > > > Gwen Olsen in Oregon, USA > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Donauschwaben-L mailing list > Donauschwaben-L@genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/donauschwaben-l ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to all for responding. Yes, I've been there. Anna, nee Buchmann, and Isador are my relatives. The Buchmanns I have back to the late 17th century in the Rhine-Pfatz. The problem is Isador. Where did he come from? The oral history from my aunt was that he lived "on the other side of the mountain" from Deta before marrying Anna Buchmann. Looking at the topographical maps from Google, I can see hills but no mountains and Orczyfalva seems to be over one of these hills. There is also the family rumor that he or his family were Jewish and converted to Catholicism to avoid any antisemitism. Since I have so little to go on, I do not ask for specific help because I feel it would be too much to ask when I can only "shotgun" around. So I read as much as I can find so that I can ask more specific questions. BTW, there are no Stadlers in the Anton Kraemer family book for Deta. I credit that information as coming from Dave Dreyer. He has been most helpful. Marty On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: > Not sure if you have seen Dave Dreyer's manifest list. I just checked and > found three entries with the name Stadler. I will try and cut and paste > for > you. > > *STADLER Anna **-[S334 *]- Age: 22 -From: Detta > -DtAr: Wednesday, 10 Oct 1906 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: > Slavonia > -Note: Accompanied by daughter, Rozalia 2, both born in Detta. Going to > join husband, Isador Szadler. > > > *STADLER Isador **-[S334 *]- Age: 30 -From: Detta > -DtAr: Sunday, 23 Jul 1905 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: > Pannonia > > *STADLER Peter *-[S334]- Age: 39 -From: Warjasch > -DtAr: Thursday, 13 Jun 1907 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: > Pres Lincoln > -Note: Born in Warjasch. Accompanied by wife, Barbara 38, born in > Kleinsiedel and son Daniel 10/12, born in Geczi(?). Going to join > bro-in-law, Jakob Kirsch. Last residence, Ketfel. > > It appears as if Dave is continuing ot add new information as he find it. > > Hope this is helpful. Susan > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > From: res00fr1@gmail.com > To: swan1200@hotmail.com > CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Thanks for posting this. > > This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. > > I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I > have found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I > did > write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... > there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. > > You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by > going to: www.familysearch.org > > Under search, go to Catalog > > Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film > and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. > Be sure the spell the village as above. > > Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man > > Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch > > I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... > Magdalena b. about 1835 > > Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. > Let me know if you need further help finding the records. > > Susan > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > > From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > > To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > > Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > > To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" < > DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > > Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of > Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed > to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and Apolonia > Fisch. > > > > Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Pat > > Ontario, Canada > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Not sure if you have seen Dave Dreyer's manifest list. I just checked and found three entries with the name Stadler. I will try and cut and paste for you. STADLER Anna -[S334 ]- Age: 22 -From: Detta -DtAr: Wednesday, 10 Oct 1906 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Slavonia -Note: Accompanied by daughter, Rozalia 2, both born in Detta. Going to join husband, Isador Szadler. STADLER Isador -[S334 ]- Age: 30 -From: Detta -DtAr: Sunday, 23 Jul 1905 - To: Pittsburg, PA -Via: Fiu/NY -Ship: Pannonia STADLER Peter -[S334]- Age: 39 -From: Warjasch -DtAr: Thursday, 13 Jun 1907 - To: Philadelphia, PA -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: Pres Lincoln -Note: Born in Warjasch. Accompanied by wife, Barbara 38, born in Kleinsiedel and son Daniel 10/12, born in Geczi(?). Going to join bro-in-law, Jakob Kirsch. Last residence, Ketfel. It appears as if Dave is continuing ot add new information as he find it. Hope this is helpful. Susan Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please From: res00fr1@gmail.com To: swan1200@hotmail.com CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Thanks for posting this. This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I have found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I did write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by going to: www.familysearch.org Under search, go to Catalog Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. Be sure the spell the village as above. Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... Magdalena b. about 1835 Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. Let me know if you need further help finding the records. Susan > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" <DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > Hi, > > I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and Apolonia Fisch. > > Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Pat > Ontario, Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Happy to possibly help someone. Orczyfalva is particularly hard to research because of the lack of later records necessary to make connections. You mention the name Stadler .... where have you searched prior to this. Have you looked for manifests, etc.? I don't remember seeing any posts regarding this surname. It's worth a try as there are many helpers on this list. Susan Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:59:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please From: res00fr1@gmail.com To: swan1200@hotmail.com CC: pjford10@yahoo.ca; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Thanks for posting this. This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I have found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I did write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by going to: www.familysearch.org Under search, go to Catalog Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. Be sure the spell the village as above. Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... Magdalena b. about 1835 Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. Let me know if you need further help finding the records. Susan > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" <DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > Hi, > > I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and Apolonia Fisch. > > Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Pat > Ontario, Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gwen, The people on this list are most helpful. Some members are made the trip there also and can give you better advise on the specific areas you are looking for. My families are near the Pancevo area much closer to Belgrade. The people on this list may even be able to give you better advise on house numbers as some of the villages have old maps available. I will forward you questions to this list in hopes of better responses for you. Hopefully they will respond to you directly.... instead of on the list. Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Rita > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:19:48 -0700 > To: donauschwaben-l@genealogy.net > From: donauschwaben-l@genealogy.net > Subject: [DS] Traveling to Serbia and visitng Heufeld and Neuberg an der Bega > > > > Hello List: > > I am seeking your travel advice! I suddenly find myself traveling to Serbia shortly, and am able to spend one day up near the Romanian border, near Kikinda. I have a Belgrade youth willing to bring me there at my request. My problem is that I've been out of my genealogy research for so long, that this sudden trip has caught me off guard, and I'm not sure where to tell him to take me. Any advice? > > > > Here is what I remember: > > Great Grandfather, Chrisof BUERGER is from Nagy Tozeg/Heufeld (out of Matias BUERGER and Magdalena NOEL) > > Great Grandmother, Magdelene KLINGER is from Ujvar/Neuberg an der Bega, (d. of Jacob KLINGER and Ana ZAHRINGER) > > Magdalena was born in house 28, which is where her grandfather also passed. > > > > Is it an easy trip to visit both towns (one in Serbia and one in Romania?) > > How can I find where house 28 was in Neuberg an der Bega, so I can try and see it today? > > Where are the german cemeteries for these cities? Will I be able to recognize names? (I remember they are not cared for). > > > > These are small towns, what would you recommend? > > > > Gwen Olsen in Oregon, USA > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Donauschwaben-L mailing list > Donauschwaben-L@genealogy.net > http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/donauschwaben-l

Thanks Anne! Couldn't have been a more beautiful day in Mid Michigan. Hope you had a Happy Canada too! Looks like thing are back in order. Jean Tacey Hagen On 7/3/2014 9:54 PM, Anne Dreer wrote: > Happy fourth of July > to all our American friends! > Anne Dreer > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for posting this. This is an awesome link to possibly invaluable information. I cannot find a connection to my Stadlers but it's the 1st data that I have found that actually includes Stadlers in Times. On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Susan Sander <swan1200@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I > did > write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... > there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. > > You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by > going to: www.familysearch.org > > Under search, go to Catalog > > Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film > and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. > Be sure the spell the village as above. > > Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man > > Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch > > I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... > Magdalena b. about 1835 > > Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. > Let me know if you need further help finding the records. > > Susan > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > > From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > > To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > > Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > > To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" < > DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > > Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of > Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed > to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and Apolonia > Fisch. > > > > Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Pat > > Ontario, Canada > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Pat -- not sure if you ever received any information ... and I think I did write to you. Had some time today ... raining thanks to Arthur .... there are records online with the Mormons from Orczifalva,Hungary. You cannot see the actual record but you can access the records by going to: www.familysearch.org Under search, go to Catalog Type in Orczifalva ... and it will pop up .... go through clicking on film and you get to the sentence that says you can see records online. Be sure the spell the village as above. Adam .. b. 11 Dec 1832 -- might be your man Parents: Josephus Nachbrun; mother: Apollonia Fisch I did find 5 people by the name of Baimenits .... Magdalena b. about 1835 Hope you can find something here ..... good luck. Let me know if you need further help finding the records. Susan > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:56:12 -0700 > From: pjford10@yahoo.ca > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > To: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:52:37 AM > Subject: Fw: Orzyfalva info please > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Pat Ford <pjford10@yahoo.ca> > To: "DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com" <DANUBE-SWABIAN-GENEALOGY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:23:47 AM > Subject: Orzyfalva info please > > > > Hi, > > I'm hoping someone might have information regarding the family of Margaretha or Magdalena Beimanitz, b. 1825-1835?, in Orzy. She is believed to have married Adam Nachbrun (1832), son of Josephus Nachbrun and Apolonia Fisch. > > Any info regarding either of these families would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Pat > Ontario, Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Anne. I too wish everyone a happy and safe 4th! Jody -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Dreer Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:55 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Happy 4th of July Happy fourth of July to all our American friends! Anne Dreer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Happy fourth of July to all our American friends! Anne Dreer