My father’s name was Anton Albert Huber, born December 10, 1911 in Pike, NH. USA. His Father’s name was Anton Huber. My father’s mother was Philippina Huber, maiden name Juhn. They were Lutheran. Anton, my grandfather, came here (Ellis Island) from N Banovci on the ship, Kaiserin Auguste Victoria, the arrival date was Aug. 31, 1907. His wife Philippina Huber first arrived on Nov. 09, 1909. Her ship was Ultonia. Note: her first name was spelled incorrectly on the manifest as Filpina. Her address on this travel was Damores, Hungary. She arrived with her son Heinrich 4 and daughter Elisabeth 3. She had to return with Heinrich because he was sick. Although it shows hospital discharged on the manifest. She returned to Ellis Island with her sister Katarina Juhn on Jan 26, 1910 and moved to Pike, NH. They later settled in Holyoke, Mass. and are in the census there from 1910 to 1930. Her last known address in Hungary was in N Banovci, so I am assuming that the mention of Damores, Hungary may have been incorrect. I would like to know my grandfather and grandmother’s parents names and any information that could be found on them and their ancestors. I would also like to know any information that could be found on Heinrich Huber. Thank you very much in advance. Yours truly, Gary Huber

1. I think that 1. is myself and that 2 is my Father and 3 my Mother and from there 4 is my Grandfather and 5 is my Grandmother on my father’s side. Is this correct? 2. Is there an area for brothers and sisters? 3. My Mother’s family is from Canada and France so they would not apply to this organization, correct? Best regards, Gary Huber

1. Working back into the past: obtaining one generation further into the past is fairly easy - based on the original birth records of the children from 1875. and 1873. who were born as legitimate and names of the parents. - István GERICH and Alojzia PUKLI were married in Baja in year 1868. Their record may not be indexed and available on familysearch because this marriage was recorded in separate set of military marriages records . Original marriage record lists his regimental information, their age and names of their parents, and states that they were both born in Baja. Working further into the past is a big task, there are six parishes of records to go through in Baja town alone. I suggest that you register for Kalocsa diocese e-archive: http://archivum.asztrik.hu/?q=en/oldal/registration and set aside a substantial amount of time to go through them and plan your research in detail. Due to to surnames and first names that were recorded in Hungarian, Latin and Croatian language spellings, and especially changes in surname spelling, you must be very thorough and document all variants and possibilities. Stephanus = István Gerich = Gerity = Gerits = Geritz = Gerics = Gerits =... Keep in mind that due to additional regulations and permits needed for active soldiers to marry many of the children were born and registered as illegitimate before parents managed to get married. Baja parishes have separate records for children who were born out of wedlock, and often there are later date notes in the original records, so you will need to search the birth records for children registered under maiden surname of the mother as well. Records available for Roman Catholic Church in Baja cover the period 1722-1968. 2. For Aloysia Bukl: you need to find her birth and baptism record and document all variants of the surname. Baptism records of her children, indexes of these baptism records, her marriage record and the index of marriage records all have differences in surname spelling: BUKL PUKL BUKLI PUKLI 3. Consider the possibilities that family was not Donauschwaben and/or that they were not originally Roman Catholic when you research earlier origin of GERICH family from Baja. *** Jugoslava Ilankovic "Rodoslovlje" Serbian Genealogy Society researcher 2. Rollcall: GERICH/Baja + BUKL/Baja (Mark Gerich) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mark Gerich <mark.gerich@gmail.com> > To: <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com> > Cc: > Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:20:07 -0600 > Subject: [DVHH] Rollcall: GERICH/Baja + BUKL/Baja > Hello! > > > > I've traced my surname to my great-grandfather, Johann (Joannes) Gerich, > who > was born in Baja on 12/24/1875 according to family records. > > He married Anna Demeny (sp?) in Budapest 02/25/1900. He immigrated to the > U.S. in 1902. > > > > In Hungarian Catholic Church records that I found on ancestry.com, it says > that his parents were Stephanus Gerich and Aloysia Bukl. He may have had a > sister named Eva Gerich (b. 12/20/1873 to Stephanus Gerich and Aloysia > Pukli). I haven't been able to find anything else about Stephanus or > Aloysia > using ancestry.com. > > > > I'm very interested in any information that would: > > 1. Help me work back from Stephanus Gerich either in Baja or other > towns > > 2. Clarify the surname of Stephanus' spouse, Aloysia. I'm not certain > that Bukl is correct > > 3. Comment on early Gerich migrants (was there one? many?) and where > they first lived (Filipowa?) and/or where they came from (north Baden, I > suspect)? > > > > Much obliged, > > Mark Gerich > > > > >

Someone once before offered to help with a photo and we were in the process of getting another photo to repair this one and my computer crashed and I lost her email. I have a photo in which the child's face is blurred and I found a photo from around the same time of this child. Is anybody skilled enough to help make the face clearer. Rhonda

Hello! I've traced my surname to my great-grandfather, Johann (Joannes) Gerich, who was born in Baja on 12/24/1875 according to family records. He married Anna Demeny (sp?) in Budapest 02/25/1900. He immigrated to the U.S. in 1902. In Hungarian Catholic Church records that I found on ancestry.com, it says that his parents were Stephanus Gerich and Aloysia Bukl. He may have had a sister named Eva Gerich (b. 12/20/1873 to Stephanus Gerich and Aloysia Pukli). I haven't been able to find anything else about Stephanus or Aloysia using ancestry.com. I'm very interested in any information that would: 1. Help me work back from Stephanus Gerich either in Baja or other towns 2. Clarify the surname of Stephanus' spouse, Aloysia. I'm not certain that Bukl is correct 3. Comment on early Gerich migrants (was there one? many?) and where they first lived (Filipowa?) and/or where they came from (north Baden, I suspect)? Much obliged, Mark Gerich

I am looking for information on a Jost/Yost/Joszt family from this area.  I do not know the parents names & the information I have on the 4 children is not much.  I have 4 children supposedly: 1. Pauline - born ? 2. Nicolaus - born abt 1882 3. Maria (Mary) - born abt 1884 - taken from U.S. Census.  She married Joseph Putz &           settled in Croswell, Michigan 4. Jacob - born 18 Jan. 1887.  His birthdate is taken from his WWI Registration card & it is      there that he states he was born in Katalinfalva.  He married Marianna Heckenberger in     Chicago & they lived most of their lives in the Cleveland, Ohio area. Any help in finding this family would be greatly appreciated. Judy Ottinger Michigan

Darlene, Thank you for your persistence! Manfred Roux -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Darlene Dimitrie [mailto:fon.ladee@cogeco.ca] Gesendet: Freitag, 1. August 2014 22:12 An: Manfred Roux Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: AW: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of Ludwig Hetzel If I don't hear from Kathi in a week or so, I'll call and remind her. Darlene Manfred Roux wrote: > Hallo, Darlene, > > Thank you very much for your efforts. I also believe that these > families are probably not directly related, but there lived a lot of > Hetzels in Schowe; most of them lived indeed in Neu-Schowe which is > just another part of the same village. Anyway, thanks, and I will be > looking towards contacts in Cleveland who hopefully are more closely > related. > > Manfred Roux > 71067 Sindelfingen > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Darlene Dimitrie [mailto:fon.ladee@cogeco.ca] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2014 01:55 > An: Manfred Roux > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of > Ludwig Hetzel > > Oops, got that slightly wrong - it wasn't the bands who were thought > not to be related, > > It was the two Hetzel lines - the one that Jacob Hetzel is from and > the other one that his wife Katharina Febel is from. > > Darlene > > > > Darlene Dimitrie wrote: >> I talked to Jack's wife today; she didn't seem to recognize any of > the >> names, although she did say there were 2 musical bands there from > the >> Hetzel family. She says that they weren't related, but I figure > they >> were, it probably was that it was several generations ago. Her >> father-in-law also had a band in Germany. I'm going to read the >> booklet again to see if it says where they lived in Germany. >> >> I asked her to see if Jack would talk to you on the phone; she will, > >> but she also said that there is a relative named Adam Hetzel, who >> lives in the Cleveland, Ohio area and is about 80 years old. She >> thinks he might have more information and will contact him to see if > he will talk to you. >> >> She did say that her husband's family was from Neu Schowe, not Alt >> Schowe, but I figure if it was like my family, we were scattered >> throughout a number of towns that were in close proximity. >> >> Sorry this is taking so long, but I'm hopeful that Adam may remember > >> more - he would be about 12 years older (born about 1934) than your >> Ludwig born in 1922. >> >> She also mentioned that they had been to the town in Alsace-Lorraine > >> where the Hetzels originated from - it's a very pretty town near the > >> Rhine and still has many German people in it, although they speak >> French now. >> >> Darlene >> >> >> >> Manfred Roux wrote: >>> Darlene, >>> >>> thanks very much for the wealth of information. If Jack Hetzel > sends >>> me his phone number, I can easily call him - long distance phone >>> calls to North America are included in my rate. >>> >>> Thank you once again! >>> Manfred >>> >>> Manfred Roux >>> Hohenzollernstr 60 >>> 71067 Sindelfingen >>> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: Darlene Dimitrie [mailto:fon.ladee@cogeco.ca] >>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 19:04 >>> An: Manfred Roux >>> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of >>> Ludwig Hetzel >>> >>> Here's some of the info in the booklet - I printed out a descendant > >>> chart wherever there was a LUDWIG HETZEL - however, as you can see, > >>> the original Peter had a lot of sons, so there could be a lot more >>> LUDWIGs around. >>> >>> There is a Hetzel connection from both Jacob Hetzel's ancestry - > and >>> also from his wife Katharina Febel's ancestry - her mother was a >>> Hetzel. >>> >>> Looks like your LUDWIG is not the brother of Jakob born in 1920, > but >>> after that there is no clear answer - >>> 1) he could be the son of Adam Hetzel and the great-great-uncle of >>> Jack here in Windsor thru his mother Katharina Febel(see > Descendants >>> of Adam Hetzel); >>> 2) he could be the son of George Hetzel and the great-great-uncle > of >>> Jack thru his father Jakob (see Descendants of George Hetzel); >>> 3) he could be another LUDWIG elsewhere in the family tree >>> >>> I've also included a file of the first Peter and all his sons >>> (Descendants of Peter Hetzel). >>> >>> Probably you already have this information, if you have any of the >>> reference books listed on the DVHH SCHOWE site. >>> >>> Our best bet is to be able to talk to Jack Hetzel, here in Windsor > - >>> I called, but they are really busy this week, but they promised to >>> talk to me about this next week - I'm sure they would like to > contact >>> you - I hope that they recognize your wife's name and her father's; > >>> or have other relatives in Germany that might know something. >>> >>> Jack and his mother were reunited with his father in Walchshofen, >>> Germany in 1947, after travelling around to several refugee camps > and >>> went to Canada in 1949. >>> >>> Darlene >>> >>> p.s. the source for the info in the booklet was Jack's Aunt Anna >>> Hetzel and a book, published in 1961 by C. Brückner on Schowe - I >>> suspect Jack's parents contributed info too - the booklet was > written >>> in 1981 as a school project >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > Darlene > http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D > http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html > > -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html

Hallo, Darlene, Thank you very much for your efforts. I also believe that these families are probably not directly related, but there lived a lot of Hetzels in Schowe; most of them lived indeed in Neu-Schowe which is just another part of the same village. Anyway, thanks, and I will be looking towards contacts in Cleveland who hopefully are more closely related. Manfred Roux 71067 Sindelfingen -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Darlene Dimitrie [mailto:fon.ladee@cogeco.ca] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2014 01:55 An: Manfred Roux Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of Ludwig Hetzel Oops, got that slightly wrong - it wasn't the bands who were thought not to be related, It was the two Hetzel lines - the one that Jacob Hetzel is from and the other one that his wife Katharina Febel is from. Darlene Darlene Dimitrie wrote: > I talked to Jack's wife today; she didn't seem to recognize any of the > names, although she did say there were 2 musical bands there from the > Hetzel family. She says that they weren't related, but I figure they > were, it probably was that it was several generations ago. Her > father-in-law also had a band in Germany. I'm going to read the > booklet again to see if it says where they lived in Germany. > > I asked her to see if Jack would talk to you on the phone; she will, > but she also said that there is a relative named Adam Hetzel, who > lives in the Cleveland, Ohio area and is about 80 years old. She > thinks he might have more information and will contact him to see if he will talk to you. > > She did say that her husband's family was from Neu Schowe, not Alt > Schowe, but I figure if it was like my family, we were scattered > throughout a number of towns that were in close proximity. > > Sorry this is taking so long, but I'm hopeful that Adam may remember > more - he would be about 12 years older (born about 1934) than your > Ludwig born in 1922. > > She also mentioned that they had been to the town in Alsace-Lorraine > where the Hetzels originated from - it's a very pretty town near the > Rhine and still has many German people in it, although they speak > French now. > > Darlene > > > > Manfred Roux wrote: >> Darlene, >> >> thanks very much for the wealth of information. If Jack Hetzel sends >> me his phone number, I can easily call him - long distance phone >> calls to North America are included in my rate. >> >> Thank you once again! >> Manfred >> >> Manfred Roux >> Hohenzollernstr 60 >> 71067 Sindelfingen >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Darlene Dimitrie [mailto:fon.ladee@cogeco.ca] >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2014 19:04 >> An: Manfred Roux >> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: [DVHH] Schowe: Looking for ancestors of >> Ludwig Hetzel >> >> Here's some of the info in the booklet - I printed out a descendant >> chart wherever there was a LUDWIG HETZEL - however, as you can see, >> the original Peter had a lot of sons, so there could be a lot more >> LUDWIGs around. >> >> There is a Hetzel connection from both Jacob Hetzel's ancestry - and >> also from his wife Katharina Febel's ancestry - her mother was a >> Hetzel. >> >> Looks like your LUDWIG is not the brother of Jakob born in 1920, but >> after that there is no clear answer - >> 1) he could be the son of Adam Hetzel and the great-great-uncle of >> Jack here in Windsor thru his mother Katharina Febel(see Descendants >> of Adam Hetzel); >> 2) he could be the son of George Hetzel and the great-great-uncle of >> Jack thru his father Jakob (see Descendants of George Hetzel); >> 3) he could be another LUDWIG elsewhere in the family tree >> >> I've also included a file of the first Peter and all his sons >> (Descendants of Peter Hetzel). >> >> Probably you already have this information, if you have any of the >> reference books listed on the DVHH SCHOWE site. >> >> Our best bet is to be able to talk to Jack Hetzel, here in Windsor - >> I called, but they are really busy this week, but they promised to >> talk to me about this next week - I'm sure they would like to contact >> you - I hope that they recognize your wife's name and her father's; >> or have other relatives in Germany that might know something. >> >> Jack and his mother were reunited with his father in Walchshofen, >> Germany in 1947, after travelling around to several refugee camps and >> went to Canada in 1949. >> >> Darlene >> >> p.s. the source for the info in the booklet was Jack's Aunt Anna >> Hetzel and a book, published in 1961 by C. Brückner on Schowe - I >> suspect Jack's parents contributed info too - the booklet was written >> in 1981 as a school project >> >> >> >> >> > -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html

There is a wealth of information. Just type afrika corp in Google! Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: Rita Schiwanowitsch via To: donauschwaben-villages, Darlene De Luco Sent: August 1, 2014 at 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps Darlene.... I am also very interested in reading the stories... but there is nothing attached. Rita > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 05:36:18 -0700 > To: akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au; gerbanz@gmail.com > CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Here are some stories from the German side of WW II that are being posted by descendants of German soldiers, some of them Nazi, that are coming through my Donauschwaben genealogy link (Grandma Sommer's research link connecting me to Transylvania). Start reading the last and scroll finally to the top letter. You can fell the courage it is taking some of the researchers to post this after finding upon the death of a parent or grandparents they were Nazis. Chilling indeed. Makes for very interesting reading. Marcus, now that you have been in the big main Battle of the Bulge you 'feel' it even more. If you don't have time to read them now, save them until later. >> Mom/Dar >>> On Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:49 PM, Amanda Kaiser via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Yes it is very interesting! And who who is "Lili Marlen"? >>>>It was tabu in my family to talk about anything that happened before they came to Australia! I didn't even know that Opa was drafted, my grandparents had a double wedding, whether they were German, Austrian or Yugoslav because my Oma would change her nationality to suit the situation! I didn't even know I had family overseas until they all passed away! I've found a whole heap of old photos hidden in a tin which for me opened up a can of worms. With photos from Afrikakorps, local farmers with the nazi banners all of which I have no idea of people, places or when they were taken. >>>>I was as shocked as any because this was a part of my family history hidden from me. it would be great to hear some stories like your friend Bruno to help understand what it was like for my Opa. I know he was forced to join Afrikakorps and after talking to another war veteran here, he was forced to join the partisans. He says there was no choice- it was different times and I would never understand. He told me his story and it was a real eye opener for what he went through. I know it's a part of history that majority want to erase from the history books. For my generation (I'm in my 30's) and my daughters generation it's important to know where your roots are even if it's bad. Seems if I ask anyone who knew my family they avoid the subject or have to go. So it's still tabu to talk about it and I can understand. >>>>I'm the oldest one left in my Kaiser family so for me it's important to be able to pass on my family history to my daughter. >>I do not intend to offend or anger anyone. I am merely trying to gain understanding of what is was like for my Opa as a pow having a part in the "war of the desert" as I have not lived through war. >>>>With respect >>Mandy >>>>________________________________________ >>From: Gary Banzhaf [gerbanz@gmail.com] >>Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 5:30 AM >>To: Amanda Kaiser >>Cc: Tina Michel transpro@primus.ca >>Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com>>>To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:28 PM >>Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps >>>>>> G'Day Amanda 'down under!' >> Very interesting story you've opened from the 'War in the desert' and >> little is known of this campaign in Afrika or other war stories- >> because of the Wehrmachts uniform, disliked by many. In a sense it is >> tabu in a genealogical forum. >> My congatulations to Tina (Canada) for the fascinating gutsy link! >>>> I also was born in former Yugoslavia, on the other side of the Danube, >> near its capitol Belgrade. >> Was about the same age as your Opa, at that time, but not yet drafted >> Followed every move by the Afrika Korps - and not to forget 'Lili Marlen' >> I came here in the mid fifties and met Bruno from Dortmund. He probable >> never heard of Gross Betschkerek - >> but perhaps walked near your Opa Kaiser in the desert sand. Told me his >> comrades in the Korps came from all German provinces and man born outside >> Germany - "ethnic Germans." etc. He could speak many >> dialects and when I told him I lived postwar in Austria he spoke >> Austrian - >> and when I said my ancestors came from the Schwabenland, he spoke >> schwaebisch. >> Knew Bruno for about forty years and our families got together Sundays >> for 'Kaffee und Kuchen.' Never stoped talking of his military service: >> Montgomery at El Alamain, POW camp Suez, for many months. The camp, >> prisioners interned, were men of all military branches and they got >> shipped to the Canadian West coast and >> transported hundreds of miles >> from Lethbridge Alberta in the Canadian Wilderness to where he returned >> on a tourist trip years later. >> Local newspapermen after him. >> Headline on a paper he displayd: 'German ex-POW returns' - nothing left >> of a former Can. POW camp. >>>> Yeah, Bruno's stories, how can I forget. His two daughters settled in >> Columbus, the States capitol. Bruno and his wife followed. >> He died in a home for the aged at age 92, just last year, >> North Africa on his mind, certainly. >>>> Gruss nach Australien und Kanada !!! >> Gary Gerhard Banzhaf in Ohio/US >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>>>> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:49 AM >>> Subject: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps >>>>>>>>>>>>>> G'day, >>>> I have a question about the Deutsche Afrika Korps and am asking if anyone >>>> is familiar with it. I am looking for my family and I have recently >>>> discovered my Oppa Franz Kaiser was drafted in 1941 from his home town Gr >>>> Betschkerek. He was 17 when he was drafted and was sent to Africa. Later >>>> he was sent to Egypt as POW and then returned to Wolfsegg, Austria (not >>>> sure when or the time frames). He worked in Vocklabruck building the >>>> Flukolager after 1948. I have photos taken in 1941 in Afrika then nothing >>>> until his wedding in 1948. I also have photos of the Flukolager being >>>> built. >>>>>>>> My question is does any one know how I find out the information of the >>>> men >>>> who were sent to AfrikaKorps from Gr. Betschkerek? I am wondering if my >>>> Oppa's brothers may have been sent at a later date. Their names are >>>> Stephan, Nikolaus and Mathias Kaiser. I am desperate to find my great >>>> uncles as they are the only link left in my family that may be alive. >>>>>>>> I know my family was in Gr Betschkerek at least until the death of my >>>> great grandmother Magdalena (Gangl) Kaiser in November 1944. Her husband >>>> (Nikolaus Kaiser) was last known to be in Steyr in 1948 but I am not sure >>>> if he was with his sons and youngest child Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser >>>> (she >>>> would have been about 13 or 14 years old at the time). He was at my >>>> Oppa's >>>> wedding in 1948 but I have no information on who survived and who didn't. >>>> I am looking for descendants and hope you can help re-unite me with my >>>> lost family. >>>>>>>> Any help with any information or insight to Banaters in the Afrika Korps >>>> would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>>> I can be reached by email akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au >>>> Kind regards from Australia >>>> Mandy Kaiser >>>>>>>>>>>> This message is confidential and may contain proprietary or legally >>>> privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this >>>> email, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of the email or >>>> any part thereof (including any attachment), is prohibited and you should >>>> notify the sender and delete this email immediately. 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Yes it is very interesting! And who who is "Lili Marlen"? It was tabu in my family to talk about anything that happened before they came to Australia! I didn't even know that Opa was drafted, my grandparents had a double wedding, whether they were German, Austrian or Yugoslav because my Oma would change her nationality to suit the situation! I didn't even know I had family overseas until they all passed away! I've found a whole heap of old photos hidden in a tin which for me opened up a can of worms. With photos from Afrikakorps, local farmers with the nazi banners all of which I have no idea of people, places or when they were taken. I was as shocked as any because this was a part of my family history hidden from me. it would be great to hear some stories like your friend Bruno to help understand what it was like for my Opa. I know he was forced to join Afrikakorps and after talking to another war veteran here, he was forced to join the partisans. He says there was no choice- it was different times and I would never understand. He told me his story and it was a real eye opener for what he went through. I know it's a part of history that majority want to erase from the history books. For my generation (I'm in my 30's) and my daughters generation it's important to know where your roots are even if it's bad. Seems if I ask anyone who knew my family they avoid the subject or have to go. So it's still tabu to talk about it and I can understand. I'm the oldest one left in my Kaiser family so for me it's important to be able to pass on my family history to my daughter. I do not intend to offend or anger anyone. I am merely trying to gain understanding of what is was like for my Opa as a pow having a part in the "war of the desert" as I have not lived through war. With respect Mandy ________________________________________ From: Gary Banzhaf [gerbanz@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 5:30 AM To: Amanda Kaiser Cc: Tina Michel transpro@primus.ca Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps G'Day Amanda 'down under!' Very interesting story you've opened from the 'War in the desert' and little is known of this campaign in Afrika or other war stories- because of the Wehrmachts uniform, disliked by many. In a sense it is tabu in a genealogical forum. My congatulations to Tina (Canada) for the fascinating gutsy link! I also was born in former Yugoslavia, on the other side of the Danube, near its capitol Belgrade. Was about the same age as your Opa, at that time, but not yet drafted Followed every move by the Afrika Korps - and not to forget 'Lili Marlen' I came here in the mid fifties and met Bruno from Dortmund. He probable never heard of Gross Betschkerek - but perhaps walked near your Opa Kaiser in the desert sand. Told me his comrades in the Korps came from all German provinces and man born outside Germany - "ethnic Germans." etc. He could speak many dialects and when I told him I lived postwar in Austria he spoke Austrian - and when I said my ancestors came from the Schwabenland, he spoke schwaebisch. Knew Bruno for about forty years and our families got together Sundays for 'Kaffee und Kuchen.' Never stoped talking of his military service: Montgomery at El Alamain, POW camp Suez, for many months. The camp, prisioners interned, were men of all military branches and they got shipped to the Canadian West coast and transported hundreds of miles from Lethbridge Alberta in the Canadian Wilderness to where he returned on a tourist trip years later. Local newspapermen after him. Headline on a paper he displayd: 'German ex-POW returns' - nothing left of a former Can. POW camp. Yeah, Bruno's stories, how can I forget. His two daughters settled in Columbus, the States capitol. Bruno and his wife followed. He died in a home for the aged at age 92, just last year, North Africa on his mind, certainly. Gruss nach Australien und Kanada !!! Gary Gerhard Banzhaf in Ohio/US > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:49 AM > Subject: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > > >> >> G'day, >> I have a question about the Deutsche Afrika Korps and am asking if anyone >> is familiar with it. I am looking for my family and I have recently >> discovered my Oppa Franz Kaiser was drafted in 1941 from his home town Gr >> Betschkerek. He was 17 when he was drafted and was sent to Africa. Later >> he was sent to Egypt as POW and then returned to Wolfsegg, Austria (not >> sure when or the time frames). He worked in Vocklabruck building the >> Flukolager after 1948. I have photos taken in 1941 in Afrika then nothing >> until his wedding in 1948. I also have photos of the Flukolager being >> built. >> >> My question is does any one know how I find out the information of the >> men >> who were sent to AfrikaKorps from Gr. Betschkerek? I am wondering if my >> Oppa's brothers may have been sent at a later date. Their names are >> Stephan, Nikolaus and Mathias Kaiser. I am desperate to find my great >> uncles as they are the only link left in my family that may be alive. >> >> I know my family was in Gr Betschkerek at least until the death of my >> great grandmother Magdalena (Gangl) Kaiser in November 1944. Her husband >> (Nikolaus Kaiser) was last known to be in Steyr in 1948 but I am not sure >> if he was with his sons and youngest child Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser >> (she >> would have been about 13 or 14 years old at the time). He was at my >> Oppa's >> wedding in 1948 but I have no information on who survived and who didn't. >> I am looking for descendants and hope you can help re-unite me with my >> lost family. >> >> Any help with any information or insight to Banaters in the Afrika Korps >> would be greatly appreciated. >> >> I can be reached by email akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au >> Kind regards from Australia >> Mandy Kaiser >> >> >> This message is confidential and may contain proprietary or legally >> privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this >> email, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of the email or >> any part thereof (including any attachment), is prohibited and you should >> notify the sender and delete this email immediately. 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Try Familysearch.org https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3ANick~%20%2Bsurname%3AKaiser~%20%2Bany_place%3A%22Betschkerek%2C%20hungary%22~&offset=20 . It is free. You can also change the search arguments based upon what you know. There was a popular World War II song about Lili Marlen. Fran Matkovich Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: Amanda Kaiser via To: Gary Banzhaf Cc: donauschwaben-villages Sent: July 31, 2014 at 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps Yes it is very interesting! And who who is "Lili Marlen"? It was tabu in my family to talk about anything that happened before they came to Australia! I didn't even know that Opa was drafted, my grandparents had a double wedding, whether they were German, Austrian or Yugoslav because my Oma would change her nationality to suit the situation! I didn't even know I had family overseas until they all passed away! I've found a whole heap of old photos hidden in a tin which for me opened up a can of worms. With photos from Afrikakorps, local farmers with the nazi banners all of which I have no idea of people, places or when they were taken. I was as shocked as any because this was a part of my family history hidden from me. it would be great to hear some stories like your friend Bruno to help understand what it was like for my Opa. I know he was forced to join Afrikakorps and after talking to another war veteran here, he was forced to join the partisans. He says there was no choice- it was different times and I would never understand. He told me his story and it was a real eye opener for what he went through. I know it's a part of history that majority want to erase from the history books. For my generation (I'm in my 30's) and my daughters generation it's important to know where your roots are even if it's bad. Seems if I ask anyone who knew my family they avoid the subject or have to go. So it's still tabu to talk about it and I can understand. I'm the oldest one left in my Kaiser family so for me it's important to be able to pass on my family history to my daughter. I do not intend to offend or anger anyone. I am merely trying to gain understanding of what is was like for my Opa as a pow having a part in the "war of the desert" as I have not lived through war. With respect Mandy ________________________________________ From: Gary Banzhaf [gerbanz@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 5:30 AM To: Amanda Kaiser Cc: Tina Michel transpro@primus.ca Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps G'Day Amanda 'down under!' Very interesting story you've opened from the 'War in the desert' and little is known of this campaign in Afrika or other war stories- because of the Wehrmachts uniform, disliked by many. In a sense it is tabu in a genealogical forum. My congatulations to Tina (Canada) for the fascinating gutsy link! I also was born in former Yugoslavia, on the other side of the Danube, near its capitol Belgrade. Was about the same age as your Opa, at that time, but not yet drafted Followed every move by the Afrika Korps - and not to forget 'Lili Marlen' I came here in the mid fifties and met Bruno from Dortmund. He probable never heard of Gross Betschkerek - but perhaps walked near your Opa Kaiser in the desert sand. Told me his comrades in the Korps came from all German provinces and man born outside Germany - "ethnic Germans." etc. He could speak many dialects and when I told him I lived postwar in Austria he spoke Austrian - and when I said my ancestors came from the Schwabenland, he spoke schwaebisch. Knew Bruno for about forty years and our families got together Sundays for 'Kaffee und Kuchen.' Never stoped talking of his military service: Montgomery at El Alamain, POW camp Suez, for many months. The camp, prisioners interned, were men of all military branches and they got shipped to the Canadian West coast and transported hundreds of miles from Lethbridge Alberta in the Canadian Wilderness to where he returned on a tourist trip years later. Local newspapermen after him. Headline on a paper he displayd: 'German ex-POW returns' - nothing left of a former Can. POW camp. Yeah, Bruno's stories, how can I forget. His two daughters settled in Columbus, the States capitol. Bruno and his wife followed. He died in a home for the aged at age 92, just last year, North Africa on his mind, certainly. Gruss nach Australien und Kanada !!! Gary Gerhard Banzhaf in Ohio/US > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:49 AM > Subject: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps >>>>>> G'day, >> I have a question about the Deutsche Afrika Korps and am asking if anyone >> is familiar with it. I am looking for my family and I have recently >> discovered my Oppa Franz Kaiser was drafted in 1941 from his home town Gr >> Betschkerek. He was 17 when he was drafted and was sent to Africa. Later >> he was sent to Egypt as POW and then returned to Wolfsegg, Austria (not >> sure when or the time frames). He worked in Vocklabruck building the >> Flukolager after 1948. I have photos taken in 1941 in Afrika then nothing >> until his wedding in 1948. I also have photos of the Flukolager being >> built. >>>> My question is does any one know how I find out the information of the >> men >> who were sent to AfrikaKorps from Gr. Betschkerek? I am wondering if my >> Oppa's brothers may have been sent at a later date. Their names are >> Stephan, Nikolaus and Mathias Kaiser. I am desperate to find my great >> uncles as they are the only link left in my family that may be alive. >>>> I know my family was in Gr Betschkerek at least until the death of my >> great grandmother Magdalena (Gangl) Kaiser in November 1944. Her husband >> (Nikolaus Kaiser) was last known to be in Steyr in 1948 but I am not sure >> if he was with his sons and youngest child Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser >> (she >> would have been about 13 or 14 years old at the time). He was at my >> Oppa's >> wedding in 1948 but I have no information on who survived and who didn't. >> I am looking for descendants and hope you can help re-unite me with my >> lost family. >>>> Any help with any information or insight to Banaters in the Afrika Korps >> would be greatly appreciated. >>>> I can be reached by email akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au >> Kind regards from Australia >> Mandy Kaiser >>>>>> This message is confidential and may contain proprietary or legally >> privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this >> email, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of the email or >> any part thereof (including any attachment), is prohibited and you should >> notify the sender and delete this email immediately. 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On 7/31/2014 10:00 PM, Jody McKim Pharr wrote: Thank You to Beth Tolfree and Jody McKim Pharr, for sending me the link to Anni's story. Also, for Anne Dreer's suggestion. I believe from her note she is doing well as can be for a 91 year old. As for respect for someone, she is at the top of my list! So horrifying what a young woman had to endure. I remember my Mother enjoyed receiving mail in her later years. Anni is a year younger than my Mom and had totally different lives at age 20. I sent the note over a week ago and she responded quickly. I read her story and it's hard to imagine such treatment. Why is it we never heard of these atrocities? Some of my family knew of them, communication? I went on to read other stories. I started this search because of my Mother. She passed away two years ago. She was 90 and first generation. She really didn't know a lot about her ancestry, only where my Grandmother was from and we never knew her Dad's village or her Grandparents. I found his village through naturalization records. It would have been so much easier to ask my Grandmother and Grandfather these questions. My Grandmother is from Klek and Grandfather Cesko Selo, both in Serbia. I have found records for Grandma but I'll keep on trying for Grandpa. Jean > Hi Jean, > > How is Anni? How kind of you to send her a card. Here is her story > http://www.dvhh.org/history/atrocities/Tomkins-Tissl-Turkalak.htm > > Jody > > -----Original Message----- > From:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim and > Jean Hagen via > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:25 PM > To: DVHH MAIL LIST > Subject: [DVHH] Anni Tisse Story > > Hello Group > I recently sent Anni Turkalak a card. She sent me a note today. She > mentioned to look up the Anni Tisse Story. I'd love to read her story, I'm > not sure where to find it. > Thanks > Jean > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The song is one of very few touchy, almost happy childhood memories that I have of WWII (as described on page 23 of my book "My journey from the Banat to Canada"). It was the theme song of Soldatensender Belgrad, the Yugoslavian radio station occupied at the time by the German army. I heard it on one of the few battery-powered radios in a village that had no electricity. It was many years later that I found out that it had become the favourite song of the Afrikakorps as well as their British opponents. Even today you can listen to its haunting melody on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdGwKt0tzgA&feature=related Best regards Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tina Michel via Sent: 31-Jul-14 23:34 To: Amanda Kaiser; Gary Banzhaf Cc: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps Mandy, This is is in regards to your question on Lili Marleen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Marleen. Gary, So you may even have met my grandparents, uncle, aunt and cousins went they arrived in Ohio in the fifthies. They live in Missouri right now. Grüss Gott und noch alles Gutes, wünscht euch beide, Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> Cc: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > Yes it is very interesting! And who who is "Lili Marlen"? > > It was tabu in my family to talk about anything that happened before they > came to Australia! I didn't even know that Opa was drafted, my > grandparents had a double wedding, whether they were German, Austrian or > Yugoslav because my Oma would change her nationality to suit the > situation! I didn't even know I had family overseas until they all passed > away! I've found a whole heap of old photos hidden in a tin which for me > opened up a can of worms. With photos from Afrikakorps, local farmers with > the nazi banners all of which I have no idea of people, places or when > they were taken. > > I was as shocked as any because this was a part of my family history > hidden from me. it would be great to hear some stories like your friend > Bruno to help understand what it was like for my Opa. I know he was forced > to join Afrikakorps and after talking to another war veteran here, he was > forced to join the partisans. He says there was no choice- it was > different times and I would never understand. He told me his story and it > was a real eye opener for what he went through. I know it's a part of > history that majority want to erase from the history books. For my > generation (I'm in my 30's) and my daughters generation it's important to > know where your roots are even if it's bad. Seems if I ask anyone who knew > my family they avoid the subject or have to go. So it's still tabu to > talk about it and I can understand. > > I'm the oldest one left in my Kaiser family so for me it's important to be > able to pass on my family history to my daughter. > I do not intend to offend or anger anyone. I am merely trying to gain > understanding of what is was like for my Opa as a pow having a part in the > "war of the desert" as I have not lived through war. > > With respect > Mandy > > ________________________________________ > From: Gary Banzhaf [gerbanz@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 5:30 AM > To: Amanda Kaiser > Cc: Tina Michel transpro@primus.ca > Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> > To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > > > G'Day Amanda 'down under!' > Very interesting story you've opened from the 'War in the desert' and > little is known of this campaign in Afrika or other war stories- > because of the Wehrmachts uniform, disliked by many. In a sense it is > tabu in a genealogical forum. > My congatulations to Tina (Canada) for the fascinating gutsy link! > > I also was born in former Yugoslavia, on the other side of the Danube, > near its capitol Belgrade. > Was about the same age as your Opa, at that time, but not yet drafted > Followed every move by the Afrika Korps - and not to forget 'Lili > Marlen' > I came here in the mid fifties and met Bruno from Dortmund. He probable > never heard of Gross Betschkerek - > but perhaps walked near your Opa Kaiser in the desert sand. Told me his > comrades in the Korps came from all German provinces and man born > outside > Germany - "ethnic Germans." etc. He could speak many > dialects and when I told him I lived postwar in Austria he spoke > Austrian - > and when I said my ancestors came from the Schwabenland, he spoke > schwaebisch. > Knew Bruno for about forty years and our families got together Sundays > for 'Kaffee und Kuchen.' Never stoped talking of his military service: > Montgomery at El Alamain, POW camp Suez, for many months. The camp, > prisioners interned, were men of all military branches and they got > shipped to the Canadian West coast and > transported hundreds of miles > from Lethbridge Alberta in the Canadian Wilderness to where he returned > on a tourist trip years later. > Local newspapermen after him. > Headline on a paper he displayd: 'German ex-POW returns' - nothing left > of a former Can. POW camp. > > Yeah, Bruno's stories, how can I forget. His two daughters settled in > Columbus, the States capitol. Bruno and his wife followed. > He died in a home for the aged at age 92, just last year, > North Africa on his mind, certainly. > > Gruss nach Australien und Kanada !!! > Gary Gerhard Banzhaf in Ohio/US > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:49 AM >> Subject: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps >> >> >>> >>> G'day, >>> I have a question about the Deutsche Afrika Korps and am asking if >>> anyone >>> is familiar with it. I am looking for my family and I have recently >>> discovered my Oppa Franz Kaiser was drafted in 1941 from his home town >>> Gr >>> Betschkerek. He was 17 when he was drafted and was sent to Africa. Later >>> he was sent to Egypt as POW and then returned to Wolfsegg, Austria (not >>> sure when or the time frames). He worked in Vocklabruck building the >>> Flukolager after 1948. I have photos taken in 1941 in Afrika then >>> nothing >>> until his wedding in 1948. I also have photos of the Flukolager being >>> built. >>> >>> My question is does any one know how I find out the information of the >>> men >>> who were sent to AfrikaKorps from Gr. Betschkerek? I am wondering if my >>> Oppa's brothers may have been sent at a later date. Their names are >>> Stephan, Nikolaus and Mathias Kaiser. I am desperate to find my great >>> uncles as they are the only link left in my family that may be alive. >>> >>> I know my family was in Gr Betschkerek at least until the death of my >>> great grandmother Magdalena (Gangl) Kaiser in November 1944. Her husband >>> (Nikolaus Kaiser) was last known to be in Steyr in 1948 but I am not >>> sure >>> if he was with his sons and youngest child Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser >>> (she >>> would have been about 13 or 14 years old at the time). He was at my >>> Oppa's >>> wedding in 1948 but I have no information on who survived and who >>> didn't. >>> I am looking for descendants and hope you can help re-unite me with my >>> lost family. >>> >>> Any help with any information or insight to Banaters in the Afrika Korps >>> would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> I can be reached by email akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au >>> Kind regards from Australia >>> Mandy Kaiser >>> >>> >>> This message is confidential and may contain proprietary or legally >>> privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this >>> email, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of the email or >>> any part thereof (including any attachment), is prohibited and you >>> should >>> notify the sender and delete this email immediately. 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Darlene.... I am also very interested in reading the stories... but there is nothing attached. Rita > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 05:36:18 -0700 > To: akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au; gerbanz@gmail.com > CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Here are some stories from the German side of WW II that are being posted by descendants of German soldiers, some of them Nazi, that are coming through my Donauschwaben genealogy link (Grandma Sommer's research link connecting me to Transylvania). Start reading the last and scroll finally to the top letter. You can fell the courage it is taking some of the researchers to post this after finding upon the death of a parent or grandparents they were Nazis. Chilling indeed. Makes for very interesting reading. Marcus, now that you have been in the big main Battle of the Bulge you 'feel' it even more. If you don't have time to read them now, save them until later. > > Mom/Dar > > > On Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:49 PM, Amanda Kaiser via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >Yes it is very interesting! And who who is "Lili Marlen"? > > > >It was tabu in my family to talk about anything that happened before they came to Australia! I didn't even know that Opa was drafted, my grandparents had a double wedding, whether they were German, Austrian or Yugoslav because my Oma would change her nationality to suit the situation! I didn't even know I had family overseas until they all passed away! I've found a whole heap of old photos hidden in a tin which for me opened up a can of worms. With photos from Afrikakorps, local farmers with the nazi banners all of which I have no idea of people, places or when they were taken. > > > >I was as shocked as any because this was a part of my family history hidden from me. it would be great to hear some stories like your friend Bruno to help understand what it was like for my Opa. I know he was forced to join Afrikakorps and after talking to another war veteran here, he was forced to join the partisans. He says there was no choice- it was different times and I would never understand. He told me his story and it was a real eye opener for what he went through. I know it's a part of history that majority want to erase from the history books. For my generation (I'm in my 30's) and my daughters generation it's important to know where your roots are even if it's bad. Seems if I ask anyone who knew my family they avoid the subject or have to go. So it's still tabu to talk about it and I can understand. > > > >I'm the oldest one left in my Kaiser family so for me it's important to be able to pass on my family history to my daughter. > >I do not intend to offend or anger anyone. I am merely trying to gain understanding of what is was like for my Opa as a pow having a part in the "war of the desert" as I have not lived through war. > > > >With respect > >Mandy > > > >________________________________________ > >From: Gary Banzhaf [gerbanz@gmail.com] > >Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 5:30 AM > >To: Amanda Kaiser > >Cc: Tina Michel transpro@primus.ca > >Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> > >To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:28 PM > >Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > > > > > > G'Day Amanda 'down under!' > > Very interesting story you've opened from the 'War in the desert' and > > little is known of this campaign in Afrika or other war stories- > > because of the Wehrmachts uniform, disliked by many. In a sense it is > > tabu in a genealogical forum. > > My congatulations to Tina (Canada) for the fascinating gutsy link! > > > > I also was born in former Yugoslavia, on the other side of the Danube, > > near its capitol Belgrade. > > Was about the same age as your Opa, at that time, but not yet drafted > > Followed every move by the Afrika Korps - and not to forget 'Lili Marlen' > > I came here in the mid fifties and met Bruno from Dortmund. He probable > > never heard of Gross Betschkerek - > > but perhaps walked near your Opa Kaiser in the desert sand. Told me his > > comrades in the Korps came from all German provinces and man born outside > > Germany - "ethnic Germans." etc. He could speak many > > dialects and when I told him I lived postwar in Austria he spoke > > Austrian - > > and when I said my ancestors came from the Schwabenland, he spoke > > schwaebisch. > > Knew Bruno for about forty years and our families got together Sundays > > for 'Kaffee und Kuchen.' Never stoped talking of his military service: > > Montgomery at El Alamain, POW camp Suez, for many months. The camp, > > prisioners interned, were men of all military branches and they got > > shipped to the Canadian West coast and > > transported hundreds of miles > > from Lethbridge Alberta in the Canadian Wilderness to where he returned > > on a tourist trip years later. > > Local newspapermen after him. > > Headline on a paper he displayd: 'German ex-POW returns' - nothing left > > of a former Can. POW camp. > > > > Yeah, Bruno's stories, how can I forget. His two daughters settled in > > Columbus, the States capitol. Bruno and his wife followed. > > He died in a home for the aged at age 92, just last year, > > North Africa on his mind, certainly. > > > > Gruss nach Australien und Kanada !!! > > Gary Gerhard Banzhaf in Ohio/US > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:49 AM > >> Subject: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > >> > >> > >>> > >>> G'day, > >>> I have a question about the Deutsche Afrika Korps and am asking if anyone > >>> is familiar with it. I am looking for my family and I have recently > >>> discovered my Oppa Franz Kaiser was drafted in 1941 from his home town Gr > >>> Betschkerek. He was 17 when he was drafted and was sent to Africa. Later > >>> he was sent to Egypt as POW and then returned to Wolfsegg, Austria (not > >>> sure when or the time frames). He worked in Vocklabruck building the > >>> Flukolager after 1948. I have photos taken in 1941 in Afrika then nothing > >>> until his wedding in 1948. I also have photos of the Flukolager being > >>> built. > >>> > >>> My question is does any one know how I find out the information of the > >>> men > >>> who were sent to AfrikaKorps from Gr. Betschkerek? I am wondering if my > >>> Oppa's brothers may have been sent at a later date. Their names are > >>> Stephan, Nikolaus and Mathias Kaiser. I am desperate to find my great > >>> uncles as they are the only link left in my family that may be alive. > >>> > >>> I know my family was in Gr Betschkerek at least until the death of my > >>> great grandmother Magdalena (Gangl) Kaiser in November 1944. Her husband > >>> (Nikolaus Kaiser) was last known to be in Steyr in 1948 but I am not sure > >>> if he was with his sons and youngest child Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser > >>> (she > >>> would have been about 13 or 14 years old at the time). He was at my > >>> Oppa's > >>> wedding in 1948 but I have no information on who survived and who didn't. > >>> I am looking for descendants and hope you can help re-unite me with my > >>> lost family. > >>> > >>> Any help with any information or insight to Banaters in the Afrika Korps > >>> would be greatly appreciated. > >>> > >>> I can be reached by email akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au > >>> Kind regards from Australia > >>> Mandy Kaiser > >>> > >>> > >>> This message is confidential and may contain proprietary or legally > >>> privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > >>> email, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of the email or > >>> any part thereof (including any attachment), is prohibited and you should > >>> notify the sender and delete this email immediately. 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Here are some stories from the German side of WW II that are being posted by descendants of German soldiers, some of them Nazi, that are coming through my Donauschwaben genealogy link (Grandma Sommer's research link connecting me to Transylvania).  Start reading the last and scroll finally to the top letter.   You can fell the courage it is taking some of the researchers to post this after finding upon the death of a parent or grandparents they were Nazis.  Chilling indeed.  Makes for very interesting reading.  Marcus, now that you have been in the big main Battle of the Bulge you 'feel' it even more.  If you don't have time to read them now, save them until later.  Mom/Dar On Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:49 PM, Amanda Kaiser via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > >Yes it is very interesting! And who who is "Lili Marlen"? > >It was tabu in my family to talk about anything that happened before they came to Australia! I didn't even know that Opa was drafted, my grandparents had a double wedding, whether they were German, Austrian or Yugoslav because my Oma would change her nationality to suit the situation! I didn't even know I had family overseas until they all passed away! I've found a whole heap of old photos hidden in a tin which for me opened up a can of worms. With photos from Afrikakorps, local farmers with the nazi banners all of which I have no idea of people, places or when they were taken. > >I was as shocked as any because this was a part of my family history hidden from me. it would be great to hear some stories like your friend Bruno to help understand what it was like for my Opa. I know he was forced to join Afrikakorps and after talking to another war veteran here, he was forced to join the partisans.  He says there was no choice- it was different times and I would never understand. He told me his story and it was a real eye opener for what he went through. I know it's a part of history that majority want to erase from the history books. For my generation (I'm in my 30's) and my daughters generation it's important to know where your roots are even if it's bad. Seems if I ask anyone who knew my family they avoid the subject or have to go. So it's  still tabu to talk about it and I can understand. > >I'm the oldest one left in my Kaiser family so for me it's important to be able to pass on my family history to my daughter. >I do not intend to offend or anger anyone. I am merely trying to gain understanding of what is was like for my Opa as a pow having a part in the "war of the desert" as I have not lived through war. > >With respect >Mandy > >________________________________________ >From: Gary Banzhaf [gerbanz@gmail.com] >Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 5:30 AM >To: Amanda Kaiser >Cc: Tina Michel transpro@primus.ca >Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> >To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> >Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:28 PM >Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > > >  G'Day Amanda 'down under!' >  Very interesting story you've opened from the 'War in the desert' and >  little is known of this campaign in Afrika or other war stories- >  because of  the Wehrmachts uniform, disliked by many. In a sense it is >  tabu in a genealogical forum. >  My congatulations to Tina (Canada) for the fascinating gutsy link! > >  I also was born in former Yugoslavia, on the other side of the Danube, >  near its capitol Belgrade. >  Was about the same age as your Opa, at that time, but not yet drafted >  Followed every move by the Afrika Korps - and not to forget 'Lili Marlen' >  I came here in the mid fifties and met Bruno from Dortmund. He probable >  never heard of Gross Betschkerek - >  but perhaps walked near your Opa Kaiser in the desert sand. Told me his >  comrades in the Korps came from all German provinces and man born outside >  Germany - "ethnic Germans." etc. He could speak many >  dialects and when I told him I lived postwar in Austria he spoke >  Austrian - >  and when I said my ancestors came from the Schwabenland, he spoke >  schwaebisch. >  Knew Bruno for about forty years and our families got together Sundays >  for 'Kaffee und Kuchen.' Never stoped talking of his military service: >  Montgomery at El Alamain, POW camp Suez, for many months. The camp, >  prisioners interned, were men of all military branches and they got >  shipped to the Canadian West coast and >  transported hundreds of miles >  from Lethbridge Alberta in the Canadian Wilderness to where he returned >  on a tourist trip years later. >  Local newspapermen after him. >  Headline on a paper he displayd: 'German ex-POW returns' - nothing left >  of a former Can. POW camp. > >  Yeah, Bruno's stories, how can I forget. His two daughters settled in >  Columbus, the States capitol. Bruno and his wife followed. >  He died in a home for the aged at age 92, just last year, >  North Africa on his mind, certainly. > >  Gruss nach Australien und Kanada !!! >  Gary Gerhard Banzhaf in Ohio/US > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:49 AM >> Subject: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps >> >> >>> >>> G'day, >>> I have a question about the Deutsche Afrika Korps and am asking if anyone >>> is familiar with it. I am looking for my family and I have recently >>> discovered my Oppa Franz Kaiser was drafted in 1941 from his home town Gr >>> Betschkerek. He was 17 when he was drafted and was sent to Africa. Later >>> he was sent to Egypt as POW and then returned to Wolfsegg, Austria (not >>> sure when or the time frames). He worked in Vocklabruck building the >>> Flukolager after 1948. I have photos taken in 1941 in Afrika then nothing >>> until his wedding in 1948. I also have photos of the Flukolager being >>> built. >>> >>> My question is does any one know how I find out the information of the >>> men >>> who were sent to AfrikaKorps from Gr. Betschkerek? I am wondering if my >>> Oppa's brothers may have been sent at a later date. Their names are >>> Stephan, Nikolaus and Mathias Kaiser. I am desperate to find my great >>> uncles as they are the only link left in my family that may be alive. >>> >>> I know my family was in Gr Betschkerek at least until the death of my >>> great grandmother Magdalena (Gangl) Kaiser in November 1944. Her husband >>> (Nikolaus Kaiser) was last known to be in Steyr in 1948 but I am not sure >>> if he was with his sons and youngest child Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser >>> (she >>> would have been about 13 or 14 years old at the time). He was at my >>> Oppa's >>> wedding in 1948 but I have no information on who survived and who didn't. >>> I am looking for descendants and hope you can help re-unite me with my >>> lost family. >>> >>> Any help with any information or insight to Banaters in the Afrika Korps >>> would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> I can be reached by email akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au >>> Kind regards from Australia >>> Mandy Kaiser >>> >>> >>> This message is confidential and may contain proprietary or legally >>> privileged information.  If you are not the intended recipient of this >>> email, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of the email or >>> any part thereof (including any attachment), is prohibited and you should >>> notify the sender and delete this email immediately.  To the fullest >>> extent permitted by law the Gordon accepts no liability for any loss or >>> damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any >>> attachments. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >This message is confidential and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information.  If you are not the intended recipient of this email, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of the email or any part thereof (including any attachment), is prohibited and you should notify the sender and delete this email immediately.  To the fullest extent permitted by law the Gordon accepts no liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Mandy, This is is in regards to your question on Lili Marleen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Marleen. Gary, So you may even have met my grandparents, uncle, aunt and cousins went they arrived in Ohio in the fifthies. They live in Missouri right now. Grüss Gott und noch alles Gutes, wünscht euch beide, Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> Cc: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > Yes it is very interesting! And who who is "Lili Marlen"? > > It was tabu in my family to talk about anything that happened before they > came to Australia! I didn't even know that Opa was drafted, my > grandparents had a double wedding, whether they were German, Austrian or > Yugoslav because my Oma would change her nationality to suit the > situation! I didn't even know I had family overseas until they all passed > away! I've found a whole heap of old photos hidden in a tin which for me > opened up a can of worms. With photos from Afrikakorps, local farmers with > the nazi banners all of which I have no idea of people, places or when > they were taken. > > I was as shocked as any because this was a part of my family history > hidden from me. it would be great to hear some stories like your friend > Bruno to help understand what it was like for my Opa. I know he was forced > to join Afrikakorps and after talking to another war veteran here, he was > forced to join the partisans. He says there was no choice- it was > different times and I would never understand. He told me his story and it > was a real eye opener for what he went through. I know it's a part of > history that majority want to erase from the history books. For my > generation (I'm in my 30's) and my daughters generation it's important to > know where your roots are even if it's bad. Seems if I ask anyone who knew > my family they avoid the subject or have to go. So it's still tabu to > talk about it and I can understand. > > I'm the oldest one left in my Kaiser family so for me it's important to be > able to pass on my family history to my daughter. > I do not intend to offend or anger anyone. I am merely trying to gain > understanding of what is was like for my Opa as a pow having a part in the > "war of the desert" as I have not lived through war. > > With respect > Mandy > > ________________________________________ > From: Gary Banzhaf [gerbanz@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 5:30 AM > To: Amanda Kaiser > Cc: Tina Michel transpro@primus.ca > Subject: Fw: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> > To: "Gary Banzhaf" <gerbanz@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps > > > G'Day Amanda 'down under!' > Very interesting story you've opened from the 'War in the desert' and > little is known of this campaign in Afrika or other war stories- > because of the Wehrmachts uniform, disliked by many. In a sense it is > tabu in a genealogical forum. > My congatulations to Tina (Canada) for the fascinating gutsy link! > > I also was born in former Yugoslavia, on the other side of the Danube, > near its capitol Belgrade. > Was about the same age as your Opa, at that time, but not yet drafted > Followed every move by the Afrika Korps - and not to forget 'Lili > Marlen' > I came here in the mid fifties and met Bruno from Dortmund. He probable > never heard of Gross Betschkerek - > but perhaps walked near your Opa Kaiser in the desert sand. Told me his > comrades in the Korps came from all German provinces and man born > outside > Germany - "ethnic Germans." etc. He could speak many > dialects and when I told him I lived postwar in Austria he spoke > Austrian - > and when I said my ancestors came from the Schwabenland, he spoke > schwaebisch. > Knew Bruno for about forty years and our families got together Sundays > for 'Kaffee und Kuchen.' Never stoped talking of his military service: > Montgomery at El Alamain, POW camp Suez, for many months. The camp, > prisioners interned, were men of all military branches and they got > shipped to the Canadian West coast and > transported hundreds of miles > from Lethbridge Alberta in the Canadian Wilderness to where he returned > on a tourist trip years later. > Local newspapermen after him. > Headline on a paper he displayd: 'German ex-POW returns' - nothing left > of a former Can. POW camp. > > Yeah, Bruno's stories, how can I forget. His two daughters settled in > Columbus, the States capitol. Bruno and his wife followed. > He died in a home for the aged at age 92, just last year, > North Africa on his mind, certainly. > > Gruss nach Australien und Kanada !!! > Gary Gerhard Banzhaf in Ohio/US > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Amanda Kaiser via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:49 AM >> Subject: [DVHH] Banaters & Afrika Korps >> >> >>> >>> G'day, >>> I have a question about the Deutsche Afrika Korps and am asking if >>> anyone >>> is familiar with it. I am looking for my family and I have recently >>> discovered my Oppa Franz Kaiser was drafted in 1941 from his home town >>> Gr >>> Betschkerek. He was 17 when he was drafted and was sent to Africa. Later >>> he was sent to Egypt as POW and then returned to Wolfsegg, Austria (not >>> sure when or the time frames). He worked in Vocklabruck building the >>> Flukolager after 1948. I have photos taken in 1941 in Afrika then >>> nothing >>> until his wedding in 1948. I also have photos of the Flukolager being >>> built. >>> >>> My question is does any one know how I find out the information of the >>> men >>> who were sent to AfrikaKorps from Gr. Betschkerek? I am wondering if my >>> Oppa's brothers may have been sent at a later date. Their names are >>> Stephan, Nikolaus and Mathias Kaiser. I am desperate to find my great >>> uncles as they are the only link left in my family that may be alive. >>> >>> I know my family was in Gr Betschkerek at least until the death of my >>> great grandmother Magdalena (Gangl) Kaiser in November 1944. Her husband >>> (Nikolaus Kaiser) was last known to be in Steyr in 1948 but I am not >>> sure >>> if he was with his sons and youngest child Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser >>> (she >>> would have been about 13 or 14 years old at the time). He was at my >>> Oppa's >>> wedding in 1948 but I have no information on who survived and who >>> didn't. >>> I am looking for descendants and hope you can help re-unite me with my >>> lost family. >>> >>> Any help with any information or insight to Banaters in the Afrika Korps >>> would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> I can be reached by email akaiser@gordontafe.edu.au >>> Kind regards from Australia >>> Mandy Kaiser >>> >>> >>> This message is confidential and may contain proprietary or legally >>> privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this >>> email, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of the email or >>> any part thereof (including any attachment), is prohibited and you >>> should >>> notify the sender and delete this email immediately. 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Hi Jean, How is Anni? How kind of you to send her a card. Here is her story http://www.dvhh.org/history/atrocities/Tomkins-Tissl-Turkalak.htm Jody -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim and Jean Hagen via Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:25 PM To: DVHH MAIL LIST Subject: [DVHH] Anni Tisse Story Hello Group I recently sent Anni Turkalak a card. She sent me a note today. She mentioned to look up the Anni Tisse Story. I'd love to read her story, I'm not sure where to find it. Thanks Jean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Group I recently sent Anni Turkalak a card. She sent me a note today. She mentioned to look up the Anni Tisse Story. I'd love to read her story, I'm not sure where to find it. Thanks Jean

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria Resin" <glowie400@cox.net> To: "Linda Bautz McKenna" <famline@embarqmail.com> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:59 AM Subject: Re: The JewishGen Family Finder: Sorry, I meant to give my great grandmother's maiden name which was Graaf/ Graff, married to Hollinger. My last name Resin doesn't come from Kupka. I rather doubt that this town is indeed Covaci though. Thank you, Gloria Sent from my iPad > On Jul 30, 2014, at 8:22 PM, "Linda Bautz McKenna" > <famline@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > Hmm. neither Resin nor Hollinger are listed in the Kowatschi (Covaci) > family book of 2011 by Jakob Arenz. > > The original name of the village Covaci, now Romanian name) is Kowatschi > in German. And the Hungarian name was Temeskovacsi. > > I am going to forward your message to the DVHH site as there are many > people from many areas. Chances are someone will identify your village. > > go online and take a look at the dvhh.org site. It is very interesting > and so informative. The many researchers there are super helpful. > > I will forward the response to you. > > Linda Bautz McKenna > Kowatschi village coordinator > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria Joan Resin" > <JGJGFF@lyris.jewishgen.org> > To: <famline@embarqmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:50 PM > Subject: The JewishGen Family Finder: > > >> >> - From : Gloria Joan Resin, (researcher code 178830) glowie400@cox.net >> - To : Linda Marie McKenna, (researcher code 83038) >> - Subject : The JewishGen Family Finder: >> ======================================================= >> HI, My name is Gloria Resin. My great granmother came from Kupka which I >> see is now called Covaci. Have you found that last name in your >> research? She married Isaac Leib Hollinger from Bucovina, I think his >> town was Storozhinets.Thanks, Gloria >> ======================================================= >> Email posted from the JewishGen Family Finder >> Sign up now for the JGFFAlert and other Value-Added services! >> http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/ValueAdded.asp >> >> Help JewishGen Help You! >> http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/contribute.html > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Dear dvhh group. I received this email from Gloria Resin. I believe she is looking for a village other than the village of Kowatschi/Covaci. Can anyone give her a helping hand? thank you so much. Linda Bautz McKenna ps. can you include me in your response. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria Joan Resin" <JGJGFF@lyris.jewishgen.org> To: <famline@embarqmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:50 PM Subject: The JewishGen Family Finder: > > - From : Gloria Joan Resin, (researcher code 178830) glowie400@cox.net > - To : Linda Marie McKenna, (researcher code 83038) > - Subject : The JewishGen Family Finder: > ======================================================= > HI, My name is Gloria Resin. My great granmother came from Kupka which I > see is now called Covaci. Have you found that last name in your research? > She married Isaac Leib Hollinger from Bucovina, I think his town was > Storozhinets.Thanks, Gloria > ======================================================= > Email posted from the JewishGen Family Finder > Sign up now for the JGFFAlert and other Value-Added services! > http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/ValueAdded.asp > > Help JewishGen Help You! > http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/contribute.html > > > > > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com