Funny how some games are ''almost universal''. In Alsace and Lorraine (Lothringen), my grandparents and we kids as well, used to play Mensch-ärger-dich-nicht and Schwarzer-Peter. Tina Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Tullius via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] Games played by our ancestors I played that interesting game as a child, against a much older barber in Alexanderhausen, who claimed that I was the only one who could occasionally beat him. Other games we had were dominoes, chess, checkers, Mensch-ärgere-dich-nicht, and many card games that had schwowische names (like Kragle, Enunzwanzich, Schwarzer Peter, etc.). In my time, the men played for kernels of corn ("Kukruzkere"), but I understand that some serious money was used in earlier times, in unending games at the"Wirtshaus" (~tavern). Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Darlene Dimitrie via Sent: 18-Sep-14 13:31 To: Donauschwaben-Villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Games played by our ancestors My sister and I were just thinking about a game my grandmother taught us when we were small. On a piece of cardboard, she would draw a game board with lines and 3 landing spots on each of the 4 sides and and then 2 more of these rectangles inside each other. We used buttons for play pieces. We called it "Figmill" -- maybe "Figmuehle" in German, I'm not sure. In later years we would draw it on the "holiday" tablecloth at big family get-togethers. Don't panic, the tablecloth was paper and white, not festive! My grandma had the best collection of buttons - she was so organized that she strung all the matching buttons on strings. All of us cousins firmly believed (assumed) that my grandmother invented this game. It wasn't until far into adulthood that we realized that this game had existed for centuries and was also known as Nine Men's Morris. We still haven't gotten over the shock and disappointment. Now, my mother tells me about another game the kids used to play while they were at the pasture, taking their cows to graze and were killing time waiting for them. It involved a stick and the loser removing clothes ... but enough said about that one. She claims that she didn't participate, just watched the others. Anybody know of any other games played by our ancestors? I was sure there was a page somewhere on one of the websites about it, but couldn't find it. -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 2013.0.3485 / Base de données virale: 4015/8243 - Date: 19/09/2014

Subject: REGER, FAHR, HAUER, Syrmia & Torschau I paid an LDS researcher to look for my family info. John Busch, a DVHH coordinator does not have his original email address. He provided me with a lot of info on the FAHR, BUSCH families (as well as others). I'd like to share my info with him. The family also includes the HAUERs from Torschau. Looking forward to any info I can get on them from Peter Haas and his labor of love on Torschau. My wife and I visited that area in 2012 with Vesna Ibrahimovic in Sombor. All the pictures we took are available on Google+, public access. https://plus.google.com/photos/104283651084158206199/albums/5824593520109988529/5824593538992127058?pid=5824593538992127058&oid=104283651084158206199 On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:00 AM, < donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > To respond to a Digest Mode message, click reply, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE > TO REFLECT THE TOPIC - then delete any postings/text not specific to the > message you are responding to. Otherwise it could cause your message to be > too long and not get posted. Your cooperation is appreciated. > Today's Topics: > > 1. family book Torschau - update available (Peter Haas) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Peter Haas <Peter-Haas@gmx.at> > To: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-L@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 12:49:32 +0200 > Subject: [DVHH] family book Torschau - update available > Dear list members, > > an updated version of my family book of Torschau (today: Savino Selo) in > the Batschka is online now. It contains nearly 14.000 people now, 2.000 > more than last year. If you are looking for Protestants in the Batschka it > is certainly worth a look. The family book is available free of charge at > http://www.dvhh.org/torschau/index.html#familybook. There is also a > little help available there. > > Please contact me if you find some errors or if you can provide me with > additional data. If you also want to publish a family book online please > consider to make it available via the Stammbaum database of Familia-Austria > like I do. > > Greetings and good luck > Peter > > > >

Your subject line references the Heimatbuch de Nordschomodei ---- I have that book. Both names refer to the profession of blacksmith - Schmidt in German and Kovac in Hungarian. What time period are you looking at? And do you have any specific names or dates of birth, marriages, deaths? This would help me zero in on what to look up. My German is so-so, so if I find something that looks useful that I can't completely understand, I'll post it for someone else to help translate. I know there are other Nord-Schomodei researchers on the list. I am related to Schmidts from Ecseny, which is about 20 km south of Nagocs. They are lutheran or reformed, can't remember which. What are your Schmidts? I also have Ferdinand Hengl's book for Somogy County which is census connected with the churches of the area. Darlene Pam Byrne via wrote: > I just discovered that my GGFs family emigrated to Slatinik-Drenjski (Croatia) from Nagocs. It seems that around the time of this move they changed their surname from Schmidt to Kovac. Can someone look for the Schmidt family? Or send me the info? Not sure how this works... Thank you! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html

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I played that interesting game as a child, against a much older barber in Alexanderhausen, who claimed that I was the only one who could occasionally beat him. Other games we had were dominoes, chess, checkers, Mensch-ärgere-dich-nicht, and many card games that had schwowische names (like Kragle, Enunzwanzich, Schwarzer Peter, etc.). In my time, the men played for kernels of corn ("Kukruzkere"), but I understand that some serious money was used in earlier times, in unending games at the"Wirtshaus" (~tavern). Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Darlene Dimitrie via Sent: 18-Sep-14 13:31 To: Donauschwaben-Villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Games played by our ancestors My sister and I were just thinking about a game my grandmother taught us when we were small. On a piece of cardboard, she would draw a game board with lines and 3 landing spots on each of the 4 sides and and then 2 more of these rectangles inside each other. We used buttons for play pieces. We called it "Figmill" -- maybe "Figmuehle" in German, I'm not sure. In later years we would draw it on the "holiday" tablecloth at big family get-togethers. Don't panic, the tablecloth was paper and white, not festive! My grandma had the best collection of buttons - she was so organized that she strung all the matching buttons on strings. All of us cousins firmly believed (assumed) that my grandmother invented this game. It wasn't until far into adulthood that we realized that this game had existed for centuries and was also known as Nine Men's Morris. We still haven't gotten over the shock and disappointment. Now, my mother tells me about another game the kids used to play while they were at the pasture, taking their cows to graze and were killing time waiting for them. It involved a stick and the loser removing clothes ... but enough said about that one. She claims that she didn't participate, just watched the others. Anybody know of any other games played by our ancestors? I was sure there was a page somewhere on one of the websites about it, but couldn't find it. -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The difference is that Stader is organized by surname. And it is separated into books alphabetically. The later letters of the alphabet are still in process. Wilhelm and Kalbrunner is organized by CD And you can search the CD. It does have an index by surname. Each has advantages. Fran Matkovich Sent from my iPad > On Sep 14, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Susan Sander via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Bob -- I may have mentioned before but I do have the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner CD which > is a record of their book listing registrations in Vienna. Not all registered there. > > I need to look again at any Hain or Hein registrations. > > Stader volumes would also be of interest .... it contains some information not in W&K. > > Just returned from a short trip ... but would be will copy some pages that could be of > interest to you. > > Please list the earliest information you have on Hain ... and any other names. > > Unfortunately, for many of us the earliest we can find is the Reich or Holy Roman > Empire. > > Susan > >> To: dvhalas@comcast.net; donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:30:03 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement >> From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> >> DIANE,My most singular question remains the same. Does anyone have information regarding the registration data from Vienna or Ulm?Bob Hain >> >>> To: donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 07:25:42 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement >>> From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >>> >>> My apologies. I may have confused people with my syntax. It was my >>> grandmother who talked about Alsace-Lorraine not the researcher. Yes, I >>> know most immigrants to the Banat registered in Vienna. I am sure my >>> grandmother did not know that and believed that her ancestors got there >>> through the military. (I still do not have an answer to that.) >>> >>> >>> >>> The researcher I used has access right now ONLY to Timis County record >>> archives in Timisoara and the Roman Catholic Timis Dioceses archives. She >>> does not travel to do research at present. She does not do the rest of

We also played Figmiel as children. When we came to Austria in 1944 we found it was very popular there, too, and also in Germany. It was referred to as Mühle (= mill) The card games we played were “Siverners” also knowns as “Siverner stecht alles”, “Schofbock” and “Patzalipl.” The men also played “Ramschla” (for money). Anne Dreer

I just discovered that my GGFs family emigrated to Slatinik-Drenjski (Croatia) from Nagocs. It seems that around the time of this move they changed their surname from Schmidt to Kovac. Can someone look for the Schmidt family? Or send me the info? Not sure how this works... Thank you! Sent from my iPhone

My sister and I were just thinking about a game my grandmother taught us when we were small. On a piece of cardboard, she would draw a game board with lines and 3 landing spots on each of the 4 sides and and then 2 more of these rectangles inside each other. We used buttons for play pieces. We called it "Figmill" -- maybe "Figmuehle" in German, I'm not sure. In later years we would draw it on the "holiday" tablecloth at big family get-togethers. Don't panic, the tablecloth was paper and white, not festive! My grandma had the best collection of buttons - she was so organized that she strung all the matching buttons on strings. All of us cousins firmly believed (assumed) that my grandmother invented this game. It wasn't until far into adulthood that we realized that this game had existed for centuries and was also known as Nine Men's Morris. We still haven't gotten over the shock and disappointment. Now, my mother tells me about another game the kids used to play while they were at the pasture, taking their cows to graze and were killing time waiting for them. It involved a stick and the loser removing clothes ... but enough said about that one. She claims that she didn't participate, just watched the others. Anybody know of any other games played by our ancestors? I was sure there was a page somewhere on one of the websites about it, but couldn't find it. -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html

Hi Anne I have these Kristof from Deutsch Zerne: 5828 KRISTOF Johann * Gier SZ Haus Nr. 616, 66 vh OSTER Theresia <8026.4>, SZ, T.v. O. Christian und STOFFL Magdalena * 20.11.1843 HF (Q.: FB HF 8394) auch Ostermann 1. Johann Arpad */~ 25.09.1870 SZ/DZ +/bgr 31.01/01.02.1871 SZ/DZ P.: Peter Hergatt, Carolina Born 2. Wilhelm */~ 19/23.05.1873 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Born, Karolina Ostermann 3. Gisela */~ 09/10.10.1874 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Ackermann, Barbara Bomikalko 4. Julius Franz */~ 24/29.02.1876 SZ/DZ P.: Franz Havranek, Maria Havranek 5. Maria Paulina */~ 19/23.05.1878 SZ/DZ P.: Georg Nika, Katharina Rassilier 6. Carolina Mathilda */~ 14/17.03.1881 SZ/DZ P.: Georg Nika, Carolina Born 5829 KRISTOF Georg, Julia-Maj. * Petschka vh MAGYAR Juditha, Julia-Maj. * Petschka 1. Elisabetha * e 1875 Petschka +/bgr 03/04.04.1876 Julia-Maj./DZ, Diphtherie Fran Matkovich -----Original Message----- From: A Parrish via Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 10:53 PM To: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Lookup for JOHANN KRISTOF and ANNA MICHELS family fromHatzfeld/Jimbolia I am trying to find information for the Johann Kristof and Anna Michels family from Hatzfeld/Jimbolia. They had six children: Elisabeth, Niklos, Josefine, Anna, Katharina, and John and a grandaughter, Elenora (daughter of Johann and Anna's daughter, Anna -- too many duplicate names!). Can anyone help me find birth information for all of them, death information for Johann, his wife, Anna Michels, and their daughter Elisabeth. Also, I believe John was married in Hatzfeld around 1921 - wife's name is Margaretta, so I would like their marriage information.. All of the other siblings immigrated to America. I'm not sure I have all the given names spelled correctly, but I am pretty sure the surname is Kristof. It was changed to Christof and Christoph in America. I'm pretty sure the birth years are correct, but if not, they should be pretty close. Johann Kristof - born 1854 Anna Michels Kristof - born 1858 Elisabeth Kristof - born 1881 Niklos Kristof - born 1882 Josifine Kristof - born 1883 Anna Kristof - born 1886 Katharina Kristof - born 1893 John Kristof - born 1897 Elenora - born 1905 I would be ever so grateful for any information anyone can find on this family. Katharina is my grandmother. Also, this is the first time I've posted to this message board. I hope I did it correctly. Many thanks for reading this, Anne Parrish Ionia, NY, USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello. I am “new” and really appreciate this group list. Would someone be able to direct me to a source or information that discusses familienbuch in general. From reading your comments, I believe these are compilations of information about the individuals who reside in villages, towns or cities, but I don’t understand much else. Who created these books? Why do some villages have them and others do not? Is there a way to know if a certain village has such a “book” ? Any general lesson on familienbuch would be greatly appreciated. - Gina

Welcome to Donauschwaben research... Which can be quite challenging. A good resource is Banatbooks.com Rita >From Colorado, Jabuka, and Bistritz. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Chris and Gina Koeppl via<mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: ‎9/‎17/‎2014 4:22 PM To: dvhh-l<mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DVHH] familienbuch Hello. I am “new” and really appreciate this group list. Would someone be able to direct me to a source or information that discusses familienbuch in general. From reading your comments, I believe these are compilations of information about the individuals who reside in villages, towns or cities, but I don’t understand much else. Who created these books? Why do some villages have them and others do not? Is there a way to know if a certain village has such a “book” ? Any general lesson on familienbuch would be greatly appreciated. - Gina ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the Kowatschi family book by Jakob Arenz. 2011 However, I have some questions and cannot contact him. Does anyone know his current email?? As in all human transcriptions there are errors. Here is my query: Mary A. Bautz daughter of Friedrich and Emilia Kirsch ner was born 19 Sept 1884 in Kowatschi. I was recently told she had a daughter whom she left in the care of her mother Emilia KIrschner Bautz when she emigrated about 1904 or 1905. I was told the young daughter died some time after her emigration. # 1 And if this daughter died as a child, shouldn't there be a death record? Mr. Arenz first sent me a note stating Mary Bautz and Stefan Horvath having a daughter b. Apr. 1924. The date cannot be correct as Mary was in the U.S. having married in Pa. in 1908 and living in Detroit, Mi after 1913. # 2 Can anyone find out if this is a typo....and should read Apr 1904?? re: 1924 Our family felt it had to be her only sister that didn't emigrate who could have had a child in 1924; but have found she, Aloisia Bautz was married to Nikolaus Franzwa, altho he was away in Siberia for 7 years after W.W.I. So it's possible that she thought him dead and remarried??? # 3 Might there be church records for Kowatschi? would this at least give death date for the young daughter? Name of parents? baptism? thank for any help one might be able to give. LInda Bautz McKenna --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

​One used copy of the Deutsch-Etschka-Sigmundfeld-Rudolfsgnad family book is for sale at Abe Books​ for $219.50: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=7344790406&searchurl=an%3DLung%252C%2BPhilipp%26amp%3Btn%3DDeutsch-Etschka-Sigmundfeld-Rudolfsgnad%2Bim%2BBanat%2BFamilienbuch%2Bder%2BGermeinden Jane Moore

I hope that everyone who attended the Treffen enjoyed it; we had a great line up of speakers and are grateful for their contribution. Yesterday Leah and I took *Staša* to the airport so he is on his way home to Novi Sad. I think he enjoyed his visit to Oregon: on Sunday Leah took him to the Oregon coast and on Monday I took him to the Columbia River Gorge. Hopefully some used the opportunity to meet Staša in person and pursue future research opportunities, as well as visits to Eastern Europe. Most of the 2014 presentations are posted on the Mt Angel website: www.danube-swabians.org/MtAngel Ray Borschowa

Dear list members, an updated version of my family book of Torschau (today: Savino Selo) in the Batschka is online now. It contains nearly 14.000 people now, 2.000 more than last year. If you are looking for Protestants in the Batschka it is certainly worth a look. The family book is available free of charge at http://www.dvhh.org/torschau/index.html#familybook. There is also a little help available there. Please contact me if you find some errors or if you can provide me with additional data. If you also want to publish a family book online please consider to make it available via the Stammbaum database of Familia-Austria like I do. Greetings and good luck Peter

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I am trying to find information for the Johann Kristof and Anna Michels family from Hatzfeld/Jimbolia. They had six children: Elisabeth, Niklos, Josefine, Anna, Katharina, and John and a grandaughter, Elenora (daughter of Johann and Anna's daughter, Anna -- too many duplicate names!). Can anyone help me find birth information for all of them, death information for Johann, his wife, Anna Michels, and their daughter Elisabeth. Also, I believe John was married in Hatzfeld around 1921 - wife's name is Margaretta, so I would like their marriage information.. All of the other siblings immigrated to America. I'm not sure I have all the given names spelled correctly, but I am pretty sure the surname is Kristof. It was changed to Christof and Christoph in America. I'm pretty sure the birth years are correct, but if not, they should be pretty close. Johann Kristof - born 1854 Anna Michels Kristof - born 1858 Elisabeth Kristof - born 1881 Niklos Kristof - born 1882 Josifine Kristof - born 1883 Anna Kristof - born 1886 Katharina Kristof - born 1893 John Kristof - born 1897 Elenora - born 1905 I would be ever so grateful for any information anyone can find on this family. Katharina is my grandmother. Also, this is the first time I've posted to this message board. I hope I did it correctly. Many thanks for reading this, Anne Parrish Ionia, NY, USA

These books also look interesting. 7 volums of Stader, Stefan Sammelwerk donauschwäbischer> Kolonist, From: robertfhain@hotmail.com To: swan1200@hotmail.com; dvhalas@comcast.net; donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:20:18 -0400 Susan,You asked for a list of my Hein ancestors. Attached you will find this list. Some had birth dates and some had just the years and of course some had only the first and last name.I do think that I want to look into the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner's 6 books, if they are not ridiculously expensive. In the mean time, any help would be appreciated.Bob Hain From: swan1200@hotmail.com To: robertfhain@hotmail.com; dvhalas@comcast.net; donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 17:21:10 -0400 Bob -- I may have mentioned before but I do have the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner CD which is a record of their book listing registrations in Vienna. Not all registered there. I need to look again at any Hain or Hein registrations. Stader volumes would also be of interest .... it contains some information not in W&K. Just returned from a short trip ... but would be will copy some pages that could be of interest to you. Please list the earliest information you have on Hain ... and any other names. Unfortunately, for many of us the earliest we can find is the Reich or Holy Roman Empire. Susan > To: dvhalas@comcast.net; donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:30:03 -0400 > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > DIANE,My most singular question remains the same. Does anyone have information regarding the registration data from Vienna or Ulm?Bob Hain > > > To: donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 07:25:42 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement > > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > My apologies. I may have confused people with my syntax. It was my > > grandmother who talked about Alsace-Lorraine not the researcher. Yes, I > > know most immigrants to the Banat registered in Vienna. I am sure my > > grandmother did not know that and believed that her ancestors got there > > through the military. (I still do not have an answer to that.) > > > > > > > > The researcher I used has access right now ONLY to Timis County record > > archives in Timisoara and the Roman Catholic Timis Dioceses archives. She > > does not travel to do research at present. She does not do the rest of > > Romania. So if your ancestors' village was in Timis county at one time, > > their records may be in the archives. (Many books as you know are missing.) > > If they lived somewhere else, it is unlikely she can help you. > > > > > > > > My apologies if I was not clear. > > > > > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > Diane Halas > > > > 239-592-9969 > > > > > > > > From: Bob Hain [mailto:robertfhain@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 4:38 PM > > To: Diane Halas; 'DVHH Mail List' > > Subject: RE: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement > > > > > > > > Diane, > > > > Is it her claim that immigrants to the Banat all traveled through > > > > Alsace-lorraine? I have read over the years that there were several start > > up points and eventually they all went through Vienna. Do you think that > > she can get information through these archives for me? My ancestors > > traveled to Glogowatz Romania previously Othalom Hungary, and and during the > > time between 1750 and 1775. > > > > Can you ask her to email me? > > > > Bob Hain /Hein > > > > > > > > I just had a 15 year roadblock erased by a breakthrough with help from a > > > > researcher in Timisoara who went to the archives for me. > > Moral 1: Some information is only available in the archives. > > Moral 2: Don't put too much weight in family stories. My migrants to the > > Banat were a good four generations before I was told and they went from an > > as-yet-unidentified place in Alsace-Lorraine to unidentified place, then to > > Billed and only then to Orzydorf. This is very different from the stories - > > quite a few generations were left out. I have added new ancestral names and > > looking at old resources with a new eye. > > > > Right now I am trying to find out from where these folks migrated. If > > anyone shares ancestors with these names or spellings, I would love to hear > > from you. > > > > New names or spellings and places: > > Heil - Orzydorf (specifically the parents of Jacobus Heil b. before 1805) > > Fridrich - Billed (specifically the parents of Ignatius Fridrich b.1757) > > Jost - Billed > > Ningl, Ningl - Billed > > > > The gal in Timisoara who helped me and another list member is familiar with > > the archives, college educated, and fluent in English and Romanian. I now > > her personally. She is less expensive than the pros and does this on her > > days off. I don't know whether I am allowed by the list to post her > > contact information, but I would be happy to provide it if you email me. She > > uses Pay Pal for payment. > > > > > > > > > To: Donauschwaben-Villages-L@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:02:11 -0400 > > > Subject: [DVHH] Breakthrough encouragement > > > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > > > I just had a 15 year roadblock erased by a breakthrough with help from a > > > researcher in Timisoara who went to the archives for me. > > > Moral 1: Some information is only available in the archives. > > > Moral 2: Don't put too much weight in family stories. My migrants to the > > > Banat were a good four generations before I was told and they went from an > > > as-yet-unidentified place in Alsace-Lorraine to unidentified place, then > > to > > > Billed and only then to Orzydorf. This is very different from the stories > > - > > > quite a few generations were left out. I have added new ancestral names > > and > > > looking at old resources with a new eye. > > > > > > Right now I am trying to find out from where these folks migrated. If > > > anyone shares ancestors with these names or spellings, I would love to > > hear > > > from you. > > > > > > New names or spellings and places: > > > Heil - Orzydorf (specifically the parents of Jacobus Heil b. before 1805) > > > Fridrich - Billed (specifically the parents of Ignatius Fridrich b.1757) > > > Jost - Billed > > > Ningl, Ningl - Billed > > > > > > The gal in Timisoara who helped me and another list member is familiar > > with > > > the archives, college educated, and fluent in English and Romanian. I now > > > her personally. She is less expensive than the pros and does this on her > > > days off. I don't know whether I am allowed by the list to post her > > > contact information, but I would be happy to provide it if you email me. > > She > > > uses Pay Pal for payment. > > > > > > Diane Halas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message