Karen - I may be interested in purchasing. Thank you, Michael Kausch -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Dalton Preston via Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:56 AM To: DVHH Mail List Subject: [DVHH] St. Hubert Family book available soon Dear Banat Family Researchers, The St. Hubert Family book is finally finished, and I have sent the manuscript to the AVBF in Germany for publication. Dave Dreyer and I are happy to have completed the work. At this time, we do not have a date for the availability of the book, or a price. I can tell you that the work is over 1,600 pages and includes over 6,300 families. We anticipate that it will be published as a 2-volume set. I will post info on price and availability as soon as I have that info. We are trying to estimate the number of copies for the printer. It would be very helpful to us if you could reply off-list, and confirm your interest in purchasing the books. Many thanks, --Karen Preston ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Rita I would love to join and think your idea is excellent. I do have something to report, but it is not particularly encouraging. Helga Kiely -----Original Message----- From: Rita Schiwanowitsch via Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:28 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com ; BANAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Serbian Restitution Hello All.... I am looking to start a discussion forum for those who have filed for restitution from the Republic of Serbia. This could be in English or German. We could share successes, problems, road blocks, heart aches, and advice which would benefit all involved. I have had my own difficulties and I feel that talking to those who might share my experiences would be very helpful. We are not, and should not, be alone in this endeavor. Please consider joining me. It there is an interest.... I will send details as to where we can do this in a smaller group. I could use advice and a shoulder to cry on. Rita Colorado, Jabuka, and Bistritz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thus us my problem too, Helga. That I why we need to talk Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Helga<mailto:kandhkiely@rogers.com> Sent: ‎9/‎24/‎2014 4:57 AM To: Rita Schiwanowitsch<mailto:schiwanore@msn.com>; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com<mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>; BANAT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:banat-l@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Serbian Restitution Hello Rita I would love to join and think your idea is excellent. I do have something to report, but it is not particularly encouraging. Helga Kiely -----Original Message----- From: Rita Schiwanowitsch via Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:28 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com ; BANAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Serbian Restitution Hello All.... I am looking to start a discussion forum for those who have filed for restitution from the Republic of Serbia. This could be in English or German. We could share successes, problems, road blocks, heart aches, and advice which would benefit all involved. I have had my own difficulties and I feel that talking to those who might share my experiences would be very helpful. We are not, and should not, be alone in this endeavor. Please consider joining me. It there is an interest.... I will send details as to where we can do this in a smaller group. I could use advice and a shoulder to cry on. Rita Colorado, Jabuka, and Bistritz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Nicolas, Nice of you to be willing to lent a hand. My research concerns the name of MICHEL, Philipp or Johann that would have lived in the Batschka between 1763 and 1817. If it is possible for you to have a look in the Kernei Familienbuch, it would be great. Thank you so much in advance. Tina Michel, Montreal, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas Sakurai via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:16 PM Subject: [DVHH] Offer to scan pages in Kernei familienbuch > I've been lurking on the DVHH list for a short time now, and I've really > enjoyed the supportive and helpful volunteers and enthusiasts, and would > love to give back. It turns out that my (university) job's benefits > include > fantastic interlibrary loans that have let me get my hands on the* > Familienbuch Kernei in der Batschka *sent from a library in Germany. And > it > turns out that my library has a pretty fancy-looking BookEye scanner. So, > that said, while I have my hands on the book for a short time and access > to > a nice scanner, if anyone would like a scan for a lookup of a specific > surname or a specific person for their research records.... let me know in > the next 20 hours. I plan to do my scanning then. :-) > > --Nick Sakurai > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > Aucun virus trouve dans ce message. > Analyse effectuee par AVG - www.avg.fr > Version: 2013.0.3485 / Base de donnees virale: 4015/8264 - Date: > 23/09/2014 >

Hello All.... I am looking to start a discussion forum for those who have filed for restitution from the Republic of Serbia. This could be in English or German. We could share successes, problems, road blocks, heart aches, and advice which would benefit all involved. I have had my own difficulties and I feel that talking to those who might share my experiences would be very helpful. We are not, and should not, be alone in this endeavor. Please consider joining me. It there is an interest.... I will send details as to where we can do this in a smaller group. I could use advice and a shoulder to cry on. Rita Colorado, Jabuka, and Bistritz

I've been lurking on the DVHH list for a short time now, and I've really enjoyed the supportive and helpful volunteers and enthusiasts, and would love to give back. It turns out that my (university) job's benefits include fantastic interlibrary loans that have let me get my hands on the* Familienbuch Kernei in der Batschka *sent from a library in Germany. And it turns out that my library has a pretty fancy-looking BookEye scanner. So, that said, while I have my hands on the book for a short time and access to a nice scanner, if anyone would like a scan for a lookup of a specific surname or a specific person for their research records.... let me know in the next 20 hours. I plan to do my scanning then. :-) --Nick Sakurai

Hello Marlene, I have the Temerin FB, but it does not list a Johannes Toth who married Magdalena Szeghy. I did, however, find several Toths in the Hodschag FB, among them Nicholaus, son of Johannes Toth and Magdalena Szeghy of Palanka, married Viktoria Karras 01.02.1881. Children: Katharina *22.11.1886; Viktoria *02.01.1889; Magdalena *07.03.1891; Maria *26.04.1893. Rose On 23 September 2014 14:02, Marlene Norton via < donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > A brick wall cracked but only to show another behind it. My Toth family > came from Palanka. I found only found 4 births to Joannes Toth and > Magdolena Szeghi. Searching other cities I found the marriage of Joannes > Toth and Magdalena in Temerin just a year before the first birth. He was a > widower 38 (Francisca Varga) and she a widow 31(Josephi Csecne). The > handwriting leaves a lot to be desired so the spelling is questionable. > Looks like they moved to Palanka right after the wedding. Although there > are a lot of Toths in Temerin I don't see any for Joannes and Francisca. > Would there be a book that shows TOTH in TEMERIN? > There is a family of Toth's currently living near Palanka. I would love > to find the relationship. I know it is not through the four I found in > Palanka. > > Marlene > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A brick wall cracked but only to show another behind it. My Toth family came from Palanka. I found only found 4 births to Joannes Toth and Magdolena Szeghi. Searching other cities I found the marriage of Joannes Toth and Magdalena in Temerin just a year before the first birth. He was a widower 38 (Francisca Varga) and she a widow 31(Josephi Csecne). The handwriting leaves a lot to be desired so the spelling is questionable. Looks like they moved to Palanka right after the wedding. Although there are a lot of Toths in Temerin I don't see any for Joannes and Francisca. Would there be a book that shows TOTH in TEMERIN? There is a family of Toth's currently living near Palanka. I would love to find the relationship. I know it is not through the four I found in Palanka. Marlene

Dear all, I have found Bing translate far more accurate than google if that helps in any way. Justine Zentner On 9/22/2014 11:41 PM, wknuttel via wrote: > Tony, > Just thought it would be fun to put your Hungarian into Google Translate to see why it wouldn't translate it. A few strange things came up, so I split up a few of the words, thinking they might have been run on words, and came up with this. It makes some sense, but maybe more sense to you? > Cheers, > Bill > > > > The last time I wanted to send you the price will be Fieder Agents from other GenoPro figure. > I've missed it, because it is normally very small details. > Now I am sending you a diagram of the expanded branch with, but unfortunately to no more pictures > and the data are incomplete. You might also be wrong Preparation. > Please let us know what you have to fix it! > If I get help from you, would add the data, put up more pictures. > For example, about you and about od girl or her family as well. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Fieder via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > To: DVHH <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 2:40 pm > Subject: [DVHH] Hungarian Translation > > > Hello All. > > I have found a very distant member of my family tree and we have started an > exchange of information. Unfortunately he only communicates in Hungarian and I > only in English. > > We have muddled along using Google Translate but his latest email confuses me > as google leaves part of this message untranslated (sigh!) > Can anyone translate this message for me from Hungarian to English? > > Thanks for any help. > > Tony > > Kedves Tony! > > A múltkor másik GenoPro ábrát akartam Neked küldeni a Fieder leszármazottakról. > Eltévesztettem, mert alaphelyzetben nagyon kicsik a részletek. > Most küldöm meg a Ti ágatokkal bővített ábrát, de sajnos nincs hozzá több képem, > és az adatok is hiányosak. Lehet, hogy tévedtem is az összeállításnál. > Kérlek jelezd, hogy mit kell kijavítanom! > Ha kapok Tőled segítséget, kiegészíteném az adatokat, felraknék további képeket. > Például rólad és leányodról, vagy családjáról is. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tony, Just thought it would be fun to put your Hungarian into Google Translate to see why it wouldn't translate it. A few strange things came up, so I split up a few of the words, thinking they might have been run on words, and came up with this. It makes some sense, but maybe more sense to you? Cheers, Bill The last time I wanted to send you the price will be Fieder Agents from other GenoPro figure. I've missed it, because it is normally very small details. Now I am sending you a diagram of the expanded branch with, but unfortunately to no more pictures and the data are incomplete. You might also be wrong Preparation. Please let us know what you have to fix it! If I get help from you, would add the data, put up more pictures. For example, about you and about od girl or her family as well. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Fieder via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: DVHH <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 2:40 pm Subject: [DVHH] Hungarian Translation Hello All. I have found a very distant member of my family tree and we have started an exchange of information. Unfortunately he only communicates in Hungarian and I only in English. We have muddled along using Google Translate but his latest email confuses me as google leaves part of this message untranslated (sigh!) Can anyone translate this message for me from Hungarian to English? Thanks for any help. Tony Kedves Tony! A múltkor másik GenoPro ábrát akartam Neked küldeni a Fieder leszármazottakról. Eltévesztettem, mert alaphelyzetben nagyon kicsik a részletek. Most küldöm meg a Ti ágatokkal bővített ábrát, de sajnos nincs hozzá több képem, és az adatok is hiányosak. Lehet, hogy tévedtem is az összeállításnál. Kérlek jelezd, hogy mit kell kijavítanom! Ha kapok Tőled segítséget, kiegészíteném az adatokat, felraknék további képeket. Például rólad és leányodról, vagy családjáról is. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All. I have found a very distant member of my family tree and we have started an exchange of information. Unfortunately he only communicates in Hungarian and I only in English. We have muddled along using Google Translate but his latest email confuses me as google leaves part of this message untranslated (sigh!) Can anyone translate this message for me from Hungarian to English? Thanks for any help. Tony Kedves Tony! A múltkor másik GenoPro ábrát akartam Neked küldeni a Fieder leszármazottakról. Eltévesztettem, mert alaphelyzetben nagyon kicsik a részletek. Most küldöm meg a Ti ágatokkal bővített ábrát, de sajnos nincs hozzá több képem, és az adatok is hiányosak. Lehet, hogy tévedtem is az összeállításnál. Kérlek jelezd, hogy mit kell kijavítanom! Ha kapok Tőled segítséget, kiegészíteném az adatokat, felraknék további képeket. Például rólad és leányodról, vagy családjáról is.

The correct name of the city is Timişoara (in Romanian) and Temeswar (in German) although in Germany it is sometimes also called Temeschburg. With over 310,000 inhabitants, Timisoara is today the second largest city in Romania and the economic and cultural centre of the Banat, in the West of Romania. According to its Internet page, the population of the city developed as follows: until about 1944, the Germans formed the largest group of the population. Today, Timisoara is mostly inhabited by Romanians (85.52%), but there still many Hungarians (7.65%), Germans (2.25%), Serbs (1.98%), Roma (0.96%), Swiss (0.5%) and Italians (0.4%). According to an estimate by the German Consulate in Timisoara, there are about 10,000 Germans in the city and its surrounding area. A Familienbuch for a city of this size would be an almost impossible undertaking, unless it restricted itself to only Roman Catholics or only Germans. According to http://www.dvhh.org/temesquarters/VII-Freidorf/index.htm there are books on Freidorf, a former village that in 1950 was incorporated as a district of the city of Timişoara. It is actually the village where Johnny Weissmuller, the famous swimmer and Tarzan interpreter was born: . Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde Freidorf/Banat und ihrer Filialen 1723-1823 by Krämer, Anton. [Family book of the Catholic parish of Freidorf/Banat and its filials 1723-1823]. 1991, Sindelfingen. AKdFf , DM 18, 167 pgs. Band 28. . Heimatbuch der deutschen Gemeinde Freidorf im Banat 1723-1973 by Wilhelm, Karoline Lotte, 1985, city unknown, 379 pgs. Most of the information in the book was provided by Lotte Wilhelm, Mathias Schreiner, Jakob Vorberger and Helene Marschang. . Tri-lingual booklet dedicated to Freidorf [Freidorf, by Johann DIRSCHL (church priest) & BOÉR Jenö, Timişoara, ed. Solness, 2003, 93 pgs, ISBN 973-8472-77-6] Many Germans lived in Freidorf, so it may be worth a closer look. Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Sander via Sent: 22-Sep-14 08:00 To: Harold; jon neumann Cc: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.net Subject: Re: [DVHH] Timosoara/Timeswar Jon -- are you sure there is not any other information besides Timosoara? Next problem is the surname Schmidt ... quite a common name probably in all the villages. I do have a suggestion. Trace this person as far as you can inside wherever they emigrated. If they married outside of Hungary records are possible. If they had children outside Hungary there could be records. If they died outside of Hungary there are records .... you have to find them. My suggestion is do not get discouraged. I have ancestors from Bohemia. That can be difficult to trace -- such a general area but many people just gave that as their origin. I found the birthplace of my great grandfather on a birth record in NYC for a child we did not know existed. Same for the great grandmother. In another case for an internet friend I located her great great grandfather's village of birth .... the name was a partial name written on a NYC birth record ... first four letters -- Nesp -- that was crossed out and Bohemia was written. But we found the village of Nespery. It was not the first record we found .... as usual it was the last one ...we had just about given up. So do not get discouraged -- you just have work in front of you .... and that is what genealogy research is all about. Susan > Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:30:42 -0400 > To: jrneumann@uwalumni.com > CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.net > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Timosoara/Timeswar > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > There is no FB for Timosoara, sorry. > > Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jon neumann via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.net > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 7:47:53 PM > Subject: [DVHH] Timosoara/Timeswar > > Hello, > > I am looking for family book info for Schmidt from Timosoara/Timeswar. > > Thanks, > > Jon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My mother used to play frische vieren with me when I was a little boy but I have no recollection now of how the game was played! Sad! Tony > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 14:56:42 -0400 > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Games played by our ancestors > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > we also played Mensch-ärgere-dich-nicht in the camp and here in America. > My Schumacher grandmother from Velimirowatz taught it to us and would > cut up cardboard for the pieces. We played it with our cousins every > time it rained and we couldn't play outside. > > The kids of today have no idea how to be inventive and imaginative > despite their affluence and their many games and devices. > Justine Zentner > > > > > > > On 9/20/2014 3:04 AM, davey1947 via wrote: > > One of the games we played was Sheephead ()he German name was Shaskopf, but I am not sure this is the correct spelling. This was a card game where there were Trump and there were fail cards. > > Dave Weinfurtner > > ---- Tina Michel via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Funny how some games are ''almost universal''. In Alsace and Lorraine > >> (Lothringen), my grandparents and we kids as well, used to play > >> Mensch-ärger-dich-nicht and Schwarzer-Peter. > >> > >> Tina Michel > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Nick Tullius via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:30 PM > >> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Games played by our ancestors > >> > >> > >> I played that interesting game as a child, against a much older barber in > >> Alexanderhausen, who claimed that I was the only one who could occasionally > >> beat him. > >> Other games we had were dominoes, chess, checkers, > >> Mensch-ärgere-dich-nicht, and many card games that had schwowische names > >> (like Kragle, Enunzwanzich, Schwarzer Peter, etc.). In my time, the men > >> played for kernels of corn ("Kukruzkere"), but I understand that some > >> serious money was used in earlier times, in unending games at the"Wirtshaus" > >> (~tavern). > >> > >> Nick Tullius > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Darlene > >> Dimitrie via > >> Sent: 18-Sep-14 13:31 > >> To: Donauschwaben-Villages@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [DVHH] Games played by our ancestors > >> > >> My sister and I were just thinking about a game my grandmother taught us > >> when we were small. On a piece of cardboard, she would draw a game board > >> with lines and 3 landing spots on each of the 4 sides and and then > >> 2 more of these rectangles inside each other. We used buttons for play > >> pieces. > >> > >> We called it "Figmill" -- maybe "Figmuehle" in German, I'm not sure. In > >> later years we would draw it on the "holiday" tablecloth at big family > >> get-togethers. Don't panic, the tablecloth was paper and white, not > >> festive! My grandma had the best collection of buttons - she was so > >> organized that she strung all the matching buttons on strings. > >> > >> All of us cousins firmly believed (assumed) that my grandmother invented > >> this game. It wasn't until far into adulthood that we realized that this > >> game had existed for centuries and was also known as Nine Men's Morris. We > >> still haven't gotten over the shock and disappointment. > >> > >> Now, my mother tells me about another game the kids used to play while they > >> were at the pasture, taking their cows to graze and were killing time > >> waiting for them. It involved a stick and the loser removing clothes ... > >> but enough said about that one. She claims that she didn't participate, > >> just watched the others. > >> > >> Anybody know of any other games played by our ancestors? I was sure there > >> was a page somewhere on one of the websites about it, but couldn't find it. > >> > >> -- > >> Darlene > >> http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D > >> http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. > >> Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr > >> Version: 2013.0.3485 / Base de données virale: 4015/8243 - Date: 19/09/2014 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Glenn, Several years ago I had a four page Latin document that I wanted translated. I was interested in having the most accurate English version, so I sought out a professional. I found Classical Turns online and submitted my document. I do not recall the rates, but I was very pleased with the translation and with the turn around time that Dr. Butterfield offered. Yours is a longer document and will take longer. I highly recommend him. http://www.classicalturns.com/Contact(1868115).htm Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Glenn Schwartz via < donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am looking for a translator for a hand written Latin document. It is > quite substantial, but I am very flexible on how it is done. It could be > many people each doing a small amount or one person over a long period > of time. I would happily entertain any arrangement to accomplish any > part of the task. Any small amount is helpful. There are about 160 > pages. I am willing to pay something, but probably not a commercial > rate. If you are not able to help but know of someone who might be, > please let me know. I can share an image with anyone who is interested. > > Thanks to all for your consideration. > > -- > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, > Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in > Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, > Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in > Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- There's no time like the past. P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

I am looking for a translator for a hand written Latin document. It is quite substantial, but I am very flexible on how it is done. It could be many people each doing a small amount or one person over a long period of time. I would happily entertain any arrangement to accomplish any part of the task. Any small amount is helpful. There are about 160 pages. I am willing to pay something, but probably not a commercial rate. If you are not able to help but know of someone who might be, please let me know. I can share an image with anyone who is interested. Thanks to all for your consideration. -- Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca

Jon -- are you sure there is not any other information besides Timosoara? Next problem is the surname Schmidt ... quite a common name probably in all the villages. I do have a suggestion. Trace this person as far as you can inside wherever they emigrated. If they married outside of Hungary records are possible. If they had children outside Hungary there could be records. If they died outside of Hungary there are records .... you have to find them. My suggestion is do not get discouraged. I have ancestors from Bohemia. That can be difficult to trace -- such a general area but many people just gave that as their origin. I found the birthplace of my great grandfather on a birth record in NYC for a child we did not know existed. Same for the great grandmother. In another case for an internet friend I located her great great grandfather's village of birth .... the name was a partial name written on a NYC birth record ... first four letters -- Nesp -- that was crossed out and Bohemia was written. But we found the village of Nespery. It was not the first record we found .... as usual it was the last one ...we had just about given up. So do not get discouraged -- you just have work in front of you .... and that is what genealogy research is all about. Susan > Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:30:42 -0400 > To: jrneumann@uwalumni.com > CC: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.net > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Timosoara/Timeswar > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > There is no FB for Timosoara, sorry. > > Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jon neumann via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.net > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 7:47:53 PM > Subject: [DVHH] Timosoara/Timeswar > > Hello, > > I am looking for family book info for Schmidt from Timosoara/Timeswar. > > Thanks, > > Jon > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is no FB for Timosoara, sorry. Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: "jon neumann via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.net Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 7:47:53 PM Subject: [DVHH] Timosoara/Timeswar Hello, I am looking for family book info for Schmidt from Timosoara/Timeswar. Thanks, Jon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am looking for family book info for Schmidt from Timosoara/Timeswar. Thanks, Jon

we also played Mensch-ärgere-dich-nicht in the camp and here in America. My Schumacher grandmother from Velimirowatz taught it to us and would cut up cardboard for the pieces. We played it with our cousins every time it rained and we couldn't play outside. The kids of today have no idea how to be inventive and imaginative despite their affluence and their many games and devices. Justine Zentner On 9/20/2014 3:04 AM, davey1947 via wrote: > One of the games we played was Sheephead ()he German name was Shaskopf, but I am not sure this is the correct spelling. This was a card game where there were Trump and there were fail cards. > Dave Weinfurtner > ---- Tina Michel via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Funny how some games are ''almost universal''. In Alsace and Lorraine >> (Lothringen), my grandparents and we kids as well, used to play >> Mensch-ärger-dich-nicht and Schwarzer-Peter. >> >> Tina Michel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nick Tullius via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Games played by our ancestors >> >> >> I played that interesting game as a child, against a much older barber in >> Alexanderhausen, who claimed that I was the only one who could occasionally >> beat him. >> Other games we had were dominoes, chess, checkers, >> Mensch-ärgere-dich-nicht, and many card games that had schwowische names >> (like Kragle, Enunzwanzich, Schwarzer Peter, etc.). In my time, the men >> played for kernels of corn ("Kukruzkere"), but I understand that some >> serious money was used in earlier times, in unending games at the"Wirtshaus" >> (~tavern). >> >> Nick Tullius >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Darlene >> Dimitrie via >> Sent: 18-Sep-14 13:31 >> To: Donauschwaben-Villages@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [DVHH] Games played by our ancestors >> >> My sister and I were just thinking about a game my grandmother taught us >> when we were small. On a piece of cardboard, she would draw a game board >> with lines and 3 landing spots on each of the 4 sides and and then >> 2 more of these rectangles inside each other. We used buttons for play >> pieces. >> >> We called it "Figmill" -- maybe "Figmuehle" in German, I'm not sure. In >> later years we would draw it on the "holiday" tablecloth at big family >> get-togethers. Don't panic, the tablecloth was paper and white, not >> festive! My grandma had the best collection of buttons - she was so >> organized that she strung all the matching buttons on strings. >> >> All of us cousins firmly believed (assumed) that my grandmother invented >> this game. It wasn't until far into adulthood that we realized that this >> game had existed for centuries and was also known as Nine Men's Morris. We >> still haven't gotten over the shock and disappointment. >> >> Now, my mother tells me about another game the kids used to play while they >> were at the pasture, taking their cows to graze and were killing time >> waiting for them. It involved a stick and the loser removing clothes ... >> but enough said about that one. She claims that she didn't participate, >> just watched the others. >> >> Anybody know of any other games played by our ancestors? I was sure there >> was a page somewhere on one of the websites about it, but couldn't find it. >> >> -- >> Darlene >> http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D >> http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ----- >> Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. >> Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr >> Version: 2013.0.3485 / Base de données virale: 4015/8243 - Date: 19/09/2014 >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One of the games we played was Sheephead ()he German name was Shaskopf, but I am not sure this is the correct spelling. This was a card game where there were Trump and there were fail cards. Dave Weinfurtner ---- Tina Michel via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Funny how some games are ''almost universal''. In Alsace and Lorraine > (Lothringen), my grandparents and we kids as well, used to play > Mensch-ärger-dich-nicht and Schwarzer-Peter. > > Tina Michel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Tullius via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > To: <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Games played by our ancestors > > > I played that interesting game as a child, against a much older barber in > Alexanderhausen, who claimed that I was the only one who could occasionally > beat him. > Other games we had were dominoes, chess, checkers, > Mensch-ärgere-dich-nicht, and many card games that had schwowische names > (like Kragle, Enunzwanzich, Schwarzer Peter, etc.). In my time, the men > played for kernels of corn ("Kukruzkere"), but I understand that some > serious money was used in earlier times, in unending games at the"Wirtshaus" > (~tavern). > > Nick Tullius > > -----Original Message----- > From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Darlene > Dimitrie via > Sent: 18-Sep-14 13:31 > To: Donauschwaben-Villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Games played by our ancestors > > My sister and I were just thinking about a game my grandmother taught us > when we were small. On a piece of cardboard, she would draw a game board > with lines and 3 landing spots on each of the 4 sides and and then > 2 more of these rectangles inside each other. We used buttons for play > pieces. > > We called it "Figmill" -- maybe "Figmuehle" in German, I'm not sure. In > later years we would draw it on the "holiday" tablecloth at big family > get-togethers. Don't panic, the tablecloth was paper and white, not > festive! My grandma had the best collection of buttons - she was so > organized that she strung all the matching buttons on strings. > > All of us cousins firmly believed (assumed) that my grandmother invented > this game. It wasn't until far into adulthood that we realized that this > game had existed for centuries and was also known as Nine Men's Morris. We > still haven't gotten over the shock and disappointment. > > Now, my mother tells me about another game the kids used to play while they > were at the pasture, taking their cows to graze and were killing time > waiting for them. It involved a stick and the loser removing clothes ... > but enough said about that one. She claims that she didn't participate, > just watched the others. > > Anybody know of any other games played by our ancestors? I was sure there > was a page somewhere on one of the websites about it, but couldn't find it. > > -- > Darlene > http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D > http://home.cogeco.ca/~lindarlene/Index.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. > Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr > Version: 2013.0.3485 / Base de données virale: 4015/8243 - Date: 19/09/2014 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message