The author told me, that "verm" means "vermutlich", so one needs to find the marriage record to be sure. Regards Anni Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014 um 00:03 Uhr Von: "MARY ANN HUESER via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> An: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Betreff: [DVHH] verm. abbreviation + Klein Torak and Lukino Selo As usual, I should have included more info to start with: Info would have been from early 1800's, so guessing that "missing" is not it. I think "supposedly or possibly" is correct. The info in the Deutsch Etschka familien book was: Michael Reiber b: [1804] Klein Torak d: 14 March 1846 Deutsch Etschka + Maria Burger verm b: 3 November 1802 Lazarfeld, Hungary (godparents: Ant Wagner and Maria Gajer) 1. Josef Reiber b: [1839] Klein Torak d: 15 October 1843 2. Johann Reiber b: 17 January 1841 Lukino Selo (godparents: Joh Moli and Anna Schulder) 3. Barbara Reiber b: 20 June 1843 Lukino Selo (godparents: Sim Hartmann and Barb Tibung) 4. Theresia Reiber b: 18 August 1845 Lukino Selo (godparents: Sim Hartmann and Ther Strassner) d: 17 March 1849 Going to check the D-E microfilms from LDS, but if I remember right, they only go to 1835. Does anyone know if Klein Torak and Lukino Selo would have been part of the D-E parish or should I be looking at other microfilms as well? Thanks for everyone's comments. Mary Ann > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:58:17 -0400 > Subject: [DVHH] verm. abbreviation > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Mary Ann > If Maria Burger lived near the end of WW II verm. could mean ‘vermisst’ (missing). Was she sent to a labour camp to the Soviet Union or to a concentration camp? Many women went missing during that time. > Anne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In today’s Rochester, NY, newspaper, there was an obit for an Eric G. Skwirba of Greece, NY (a suburb of Rochester, NY). Mr. Skwirba died at the age of 82. Since he was a member of the Rochester Schwaben Verein and the German-American Sports Club, I thought I would post this info in the possible event that he might be related in some way to member(s) of the list. Mr. Skwirba was predeceased by sisters, Gertrude, Hadvig, and Lise. Survived by sister Gerda Schiller. Also survived by wife and children. If anyone wishes a scan of the obit with a photo of Mr. Skwirba, please contact me privately. Rose Mary Keller Hughes E Rochester, NY --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

My Oma always added a little sliced fresh garlic and some fresh ( if possible) dill. A little vinegar and paprika with the sour cream is good, or you can substitute plain yogurt. Always my favorite salad. Be sure to slice the peeled cucumbers paper thin. Jeanne Just On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Helga via < donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Right on Anne, the same as we made it. I slice the cucumbers very fine and > they are so fine and almost transparent. > > Helga > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anne Dreer via > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:17 PM > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Cucumber salad > > We always made it like Nick Tullius . > > Pealed sliced cucumbers, cut up garlic, add salt, drain or squeeze out > the > brine Add sour cream and a little vinegar. Sprinkle with paprika. > > Anne Dreer > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If the abbreviation means vermutlich and since it is right before the date of birth, could it mean that it was assumed that Maria Burger was born on that date? Anne Dreer

Looking in my German dictionary for anything starting with verm, I found the verb infinitive vermählen which means to marry or give in marriage. This might be the word since it is right after the wife's name. Yvonne in St. Louis -----Original Message----- From: MARY ANN HUESER [mailto:mahueser@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:03 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] verm. abbreviation + Klein Torak and Lukino Selo As usual, I should have included more info to start with: Info would have been from early 1800's, so guessing that "missing" is not it. I think "supposedly or possibly" is correct. The info in the Deutsch Etschka familien book was: Michael Reiber b: [1804] Klein Torak d: 14 March 1846 Deutsch Etschka + Maria Burger verm b: 3 November 1802 Lazarfeld, Hungary (godparents: Ant Wagner and Maria Gajer) 1. Josef Reiber b: [1839] Klein Torak d: 15 October 1843 2. Johann Reiber b: 17 January 1841 Lukino Selo (godparents: Joh Moli and Anna Schulder) 3. Barbara Reiber b: 20 June 1843 Lukino Selo (godparents: Sim Hartmann and Barb Tibung) 4. Theresia Reiber b: 18 August 1845 Lukino Selo (godparents: Sim Hartmann and Ther Strassner) d: 17 March 1849 Going to check the D-E microfilms from LDS, but if I remember right, they only go to 1835. Does anyone know if Klein Torak and Lukino Selo would have been part of the D-E parish or should I be looking at other microfilms as well? Thanks for everyone's comments. Mary Ann > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:58:17 -0400 > Subject: [DVHH] verm. abbreviation > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Mary Ann > If Maria Burger lived near the end of WW II verm. could mean ‘vermisst’ (missing). Was she sent to a labour camp to the Soviet Union or to a concentration camp? Many women went missing during that time. > Anne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Thank you to all who shared their family's cucumber salad recipes. There were several versions with the same ingredients along with helpful hints. One added dill which reminded me that the salad I had in Romania was made with dill weed. I so appreciate all your responses and look forward to recreating this dish to relive a fond memory I have from my visit to my ancestors' hometown way back in 1970. I've waiting a long time for this recipe! Message: 3 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:34:10 -0400 From: "Nick Tullius" <ntullius@rogers.com> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Cucumber with Sour Cream recipe request We use medium-size cucumbers, the prickly (also called pickling-) types have more taste than the long, smooth English cucumbers. . Peel the cucumbers, then cut them into very thin, round slices. . Salt them well & let them stand for about half an hour; . Squeeze the salt brine out and throw it away* . Mix in the sour cream (or yoghurt) and a dash of vinegar; . Add squashed garlic, pepper and paprika (to taste). *I know that some vitamin C is lost this way, but that is how the Banat villagers did it (probably to get rid of any bitter taste of the cucumber). This cumber salad goes exceptionally well with schnitzel (veal, pork or turkey scaloppini) and fried young potatoes. My wife prepares it several times each year. Guten Appetit! Nick Tullius

As usual, I should have included more info to start with: Info would have been from early 1800's, so guessing that "missing" is not it. I think "supposedly or possibly" is correct. The info in the Deutsch Etschka familien book was: Michael Reiber b: [1804] Klein Torak d: 14 March 1846 Deutsch Etschka + Maria Burger verm b: 3 November 1802 Lazarfeld, Hungary (godparents: Ant Wagner and Maria Gajer) 1. Josef Reiber b: [1839] Klein Torak d: 15 October 1843 2. Johann Reiber b: 17 January 1841 Lukino Selo (godparents: Joh Moli and Anna Schulder) 3. Barbara Reiber b: 20 June 1843 Lukino Selo (godparents: Sim Hartmann and Barb Tibung) 4. Theresia Reiber b: 18 August 1845 Lukino Selo (godparents: Sim Hartmann and Ther Strassner) d: 17 March 1849 Going to check the D-E microfilms from LDS, but if I remember right, they only go to 1835. Does anyone know if Klein Torak and Lukino Selo would have been part of the D-E parish or should I be looking at other microfilms as well? Thanks for everyone's comments. Mary Ann > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:58:17 -0400 > Subject: [DVHH] verm. abbreviation > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Mary Ann > If Maria Burger lived near the end of WW II verm. could mean ‘vermisst’ (missing). Was she sent to a labour camp to the Soviet Union or to a concentration camp? Many women went missing during that time. > Anne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Use this copy everyone I had to add the Vinegar. -----Original Message----- From: Rhonda Staudt via Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:06 PM To: afp143@yahoo.com ; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] Cucumber with Sour Cream recipe request Anne here is my grandmother's recipe for Cucumber salad. If you have any questions, just email me at www.ref5@verizon.net I also have their potato salad and macaroni salad. SOUR CREAM CUCUMBER SALAD from Anna Herz Friedl (granddaughter, Rhonda Friedl Staudt DVHH member) 4 cucumbers 1/8 teaspoon of minced garlic a pinch of dill 8 oz. sour cream (we use Daisy b/c it's the purest) a capful of white vinegar a sprinkling of paparika Slice cucumbers thin with grater and sprinkle lightly with salt; let sit in a colander. After about an half hour press down with a plate to get out water that cucumber sweated. Place in a bowl with minced garlic and a pinch of dill. Stir in sour cream and let sit overnight. Before serving taste and decide if it needs more dill and/or salt. Sprinkle with paparika. When serving stir in paparika. -----Original Message----- From: ref58 via Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:16 AM To: afp143@yahoo.com ; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] Cucumber with Sour Cream recipe request Anne, When I get home I can send you the recipe. My mom got it from her mother-in-law, Anna Herz Friedl. It's my favorite....well then again I love anything with sour cream......most be in the blood. Rhonda On 10/21/14, A Parrish via<donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: I remember have Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream when I visited Jimbolia, Romania in 1970. I would love the recipe. Sadly, I was too young and not interested in cooking when I was there, so never thought to ask for the recipe. Thank you, Anne Message: 9 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:58:05 -0500 From: June Meyer <[1]junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Susskrait To: Angela <[2]acmoyls@gmail.com> Cc: "do[3]nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <do[4]nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8C9B5141-F1CC-4E[5]54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Angela, here is the recipe for Grumbiere and Noodles (Potatoes and Dumplings with Breadcrumbs) exactly as it appears in my cookbook "June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom recipes". Enjoy!! June Good to serve with a cold Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream and a cooked fruit like peaches, plums, etc. Serves 4. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWA[6]BEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com 2. mailto:acmoyls@gmail.com 3. mailto:nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com 6. mailto:BEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne here is my grandmother's recipe for Cucumber salad. If you have any questions, just email me at www.ref5@verizon.net I also have their potato salad and macaroni salad. SOUR CREAM CUCUMBER SALAD from Anna Herz Friedl (granddaughter, Rhonda Friedl Staudt DVHH member) 4 cucumbers 1/8 teaspoon of minced garlic a pinch of dill 8 oz. sour cream (we use Daisy b/c it's the purest) a sprinkling of paparika Slice cucumbers thin with grater and sprinkle lightly with salt; let sit in a colander. After about an half hour press down with a plate to get out water that cucumber sweated. Place in a bowl with minced garlic and a pinch of dill. Stir in sour cream and let sit overnight. Before serving taste and decide if it needs more dill and/or salt. Sprinkle with paparika. When serving stir in paparika. -----Original Message----- From: ref58 via Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:16 AM To: afp143@yahoo.com ; donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DVHH] Cucumber with Sour Cream recipe request Anne, When I get home I can send you the recipe. My mom got it from her mother-in-law, Anna Herz Friedl. It's my favorite....well then again I love anything with sour cream......most be in the blood. Rhonda On 10/21/14, A Parrish via<donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: I remember have Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream when I visited Jimbolia, Romania in 1970. I would love the recipe. Sadly, I was too young and not interested in cooking when I was there, so never thought to ask for the recipe. Thank you, Anne Message: 9 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:58:05 -0500 From: June Meyer <[1]junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Susskrait To: Angela <[2]acmoyls@gmail.com> Cc: "do[3]nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <do[4]nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8C9B5141-F1CC-4E[5]54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Angela, here is the recipe for Grumbiere and Noodles (Potatoes and Dumplings with Breadcrumbs) exactly as it appears in my cookbook "June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom recipes". Enjoy!! June Good to serve with a cold Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream and a cooked fruit like peaches, plums, etc. Serves 4. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWA[6]BEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com 2. mailto:acmoyls@gmail.com 3. mailto:nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com 6. mailto:BEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Right on Anne, the same as we made it. I slice the cucumbers very fine and they are so fine and almost transparent. Helga -----Original Message----- From: Anne Dreer via Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:17 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Cucumber salad We always made it like Nick Tullius . Pealed sliced cucumbers, cut up garlic, add salt, drain or squeeze out the brine Add sour cream and a little vinegar. Sprinkle with paprika. Anne Dreer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We always made it like Nick Tullius . Pealed sliced cucumbers, cut up garlic, add salt, drain or squeeze out the brine Add sour cream and a little vinegar. Sprinkle with paprika. Anne Dreer

Thank you. I did get replies but they were directed to me personally. You were the only one that mentioned paprika and we had paprika in our susskraut as well as potatotes. Will try to make it. Helga Kiely -----Original Message----- From: Nick Tullius via Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:02 AM To: 'DVHH Mail List' Subject: [DVHH] Süsskraut A while ago somebody asked for a recipe for Susskraut (Süsskraut). I rarely stray into the recipes, but since I have not seen any reply to that request, I am going to rely once again on my memory. So here goes: · Cut the head (or heads) of cabbage into four or more parts; · Boil in salty water; · Make a brown roux (Einbrenn; Inbrenn) using oil or lard and white flour; · Add a dash of paprika into the roux (some add a little chopped garlic); · Stir the cooked cabbage into the roux; · Add ground black pepper to taste (optional). To make a meal out of it (the times were hard) we also added slices of boiled potatoes. I remember my father joking about this meal: “Today we are going to have something sweet for lunch!” I do not remember ever having it as an accompaniment to meat (Zuspeis). Nick Tullius ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream (Tejfeles uborkasalata) from June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom Recipes cookbook. This cucumber salad is by far one of the most delicious and refreshing salads you can eat. It has a wonderful cucumber flavor that is enhanced by the garlic and sour cream. Originally this was a summer salad to accompany roast meat or chicken dishes. Now that we have cucumbers available all year round we can enjoy this dish all year. I use a slaw slicer to slice the cucumber thinly enough to see through! As a child I always enjoyed peeling and then grooving the cucumbers with the tines of a fork before my mother would slice them. I loved the refreshing cool cucumber spray that would mist my face. * 4 cucumbers * 1 small clove of garlic * 1 teaspoon sugar * 1/4 teaspoon salt * 1/4 cup of good vinegar (not red) * 3/4 cup of real sour cream Peel cukes. Drag fork tines down length of peeled cucumbers to create long groves that will look very nice when you slice cucumbers very, very thin. Put in mixing bowl. Peel and chop clove of garlic. Add Salt and Sugar to slices. Mix in sour cream. Add vinegar (I like to use "Marukan seasoned gourmet Rice Vinegar" orange label) and toss well, I use my hands, till cucumbers slices and sour cream are all frothy and foamy. Place in serving dish and sprinkle a little paprika on top for decoration, and serve well chilled. This will stay good in refrigerator for a few days. NOTE: Originally the cucumbers would be salted with a lot of salt and then squeezed of juices. My family is know for everybody having very High Blood pressure and need restrictions on salt. We no longer pre-salt. If you follow the direction you will have a healthy salad. Do not omit the sugar. A secret ingredient for a lot of Hungarian recipes, is, a spoonful of sugar! Enjoy!! Serves 4. -June Meyer On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:16 AM, ref58 via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > On 10/21/14, A Parrish via<donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I remember have Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream when I visited Jimbolia, > Romania in 1970. I would love the recipe. Sadly, I was too young and not > interested in cooking when I was there, so never thought to ask for the > recipe. > Thank you, > Anne >

My grandmother made this but used mayo instead of sour cream and put lots of garlic and onions We ALWAYS serve with stuff bell peppers. The sweet from the mayo and the acid from tomatoes ( in peppers) is a perfect combo ???? from Barbara's phone ???? > On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Nick Tullius via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Anne, > > > > We use medium-size cucumbers, the prickly (also called pickling-) types have > more taste than the long, smooth English cucumbers. > > > > . Peel the cucumbers, then cut them into very thin, round slices. > > . Salt them well & let them stand for about half an hour; > > . Squeeze the salt brine out and throw it away* > > . Mix in the sour cream (or yoghurt) and a dash of vinegar; > > . Add squashed garlic, pepper and paprika (to taste). > > > > *I know that some vitamin C is lost this way, but that is how the Banat > villagers did it (probably to get rid of any bitter taste of the cucumber). > > This cumber salad goes exceptionally well with schnitzel (veal, pork or > turkey scaloppini) and fried young potatoes. My wife prepares it several > times each year. > > > > Guten Appetit! > > > > Nick Tullius > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of A Parrish > via > Sent: 21-Oct-14 08:29 > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Cucumber with Sour Cream recipe request > > > > I remember have Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream when I visited Jimbolia, > Romania in 1970. I would love the recipe. Sadly, I was too young and not > interested in cooking when I was there, so never thought to ask for the > recipe. > > > > Thank you, > > Anne > > > > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:58:05 -0500 > > From: June Meyer < <mailto:junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> > junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Susskrait > > To: Angela < <mailto:acmoyls@gmail.com> acmoyls@gmail.com> > > Cc: " <mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" > > < <mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: < <mailto:8C9B5141-F1CC-4E54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com> > 8C9B5141-F1CC-4E54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Angela, here is the recipe for Grumbiere and Noodles (Potatoes and Dumplings > with Breadcrumbs) exactly as it appears in my cookbook "June Meyer's > Authentic Hungarian Heirloom recipes". Enjoy!! June > > > > Good to serve with a cold Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream and a cooked fruit > like peaches, plums, etc. > > > > Serves 4. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > <mailto:DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com> > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ???? from Barbara's phone ???? > On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Nick Tullius via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Anne, > > > > We use medium-size cucumbers, the prickly (also called pickling-) types have > more taste than the long, smooth English cucumbers. > > > > . Peel the cucumbers, then cut them into very thin, round slices. > > . Salt them well & let them stand for about half an hour; > > . Squeeze the salt brine out and throw it away* > > . Mix in the sour cream (or yoghurt) and a dash of vinegar; > > . Add squashed garlic, pepper and paprika (to taste). > > > > *I know that some vitamin C is lost this way, but that is how the Banat > villagers did it (probably to get rid of any bitter taste of the cucumber). > > This cumber salad goes exceptionally well with schnitzel (veal, pork or > turkey scaloppini) and fried young potatoes. My wife prepares it several > times each year. > > > > Guten Appetit! > > > > Nick Tullius > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of A Parrish > via > Sent: 21-Oct-14 08:29 > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DVHH] Cucumber with Sour Cream recipe request > > > > I remember have Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream when I visited Jimbolia, > Romania in 1970. I would love the recipe. Sadly, I was too young and not > interested in cooking when I was there, so never thought to ask for the > recipe. > > > > Thank you, > > Anne > > > > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:58:05 -0500 > > From: June Meyer < <mailto:junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> > junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Susskrait > > To: Angela < <mailto:acmoyls@gmail.com> acmoyls@gmail.com> > > Cc: " <mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" > > < <mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: < <mailto:8C9B5141-F1CC-4E54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com> > 8C9B5141-F1CC-4E54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Angela, here is the recipe for Grumbiere and Noodles (Potatoes and Dumplings > with Breadcrumbs) exactly as it appears in my cookbook "June Meyer's > Authentic Hungarian Heirloom recipes". Enjoy!! June > > > > Good to serve with a cold Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream and a cooked fruit > like peaches, plums, etc. > > > > Serves 4. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > <mailto:DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com> > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A while ago somebody asked for a recipe for Susskraut (Süsskraut). I rarely stray into the recipes, but since I have not seen any reply to that request, I am going to rely once again on my memory. So here goes: · Cut the head (or heads) of cabbage into four or more parts; · Boil in salty water; · Make a brown roux (Einbrenn; Inbrenn) using oil or lard and white flour; · Add a dash of paprika into the roux (some add a little chopped garlic); · Stir the cooked cabbage into the roux; · Add ground black pepper to taste (optional). To make a meal out of it (the times were hard) we also added slices of boiled potatoes. I remember my father joking about this meal: “Today we are going to have something sweet for lunch!” I do not remember ever having it as an accompaniment to meat (Zuspeis). Nick Tullius

Anne, We use medium-size cucumbers, the prickly (also called pickling-) types have more taste than the long, smooth English cucumbers. . Peel the cucumbers, then cut them into very thin, round slices. . Salt them well & let them stand for about half an hour; . Squeeze the salt brine out and throw it away* . Mix in the sour cream (or yoghurt) and a dash of vinegar; . Add squashed garlic, pepper and paprika (to taste). *I know that some vitamin C is lost this way, but that is how the Banat villagers did it (probably to get rid of any bitter taste of the cucumber). This cumber salad goes exceptionally well with schnitzel (veal, pork or turkey scaloppini) and fried young potatoes. My wife prepares it several times each year. Guten Appetit! Nick Tullius -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of A Parrish via Sent: 21-Oct-14 08:29 To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Cucumber with Sour Cream recipe request I remember have Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream when I visited Jimbolia, Romania in 1970. I would love the recipe. Sadly, I was too young and not interested in cooking when I was there, so never thought to ask for the recipe. Thank you, Anne Message: 9 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:58:05 -0500 From: June Meyer < <mailto:junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Susskrait To: Angela < <mailto:acmoyls@gmail.com> acmoyls@gmail.com> Cc: " <mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" < <mailto:donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: < <mailto:8C9B5141-F1CC-4E54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com> 8C9B5141-F1CC-4E54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Angela, here is the recipe for Grumbiere and Noodles (Potatoes and Dumplings with Breadcrumbs) exactly as it appears in my cookbook "June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom recipes". Enjoy!! June Good to serve with a cold Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream and a cooked fruit like peaches, plums, etc. Serves 4. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <mailto:DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne, When I get home I can send you the recipe. My mom got it from her mother-in-law, Anna Herz Friedl. It's my favorite....well then again I love anything with sour cream......most be in the blood. Rhonda On 10/21/14, A Parrish via<donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: I remember have Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream when I visited Jimbolia, Romania in 1970. I would love the recipe. Sadly, I was too young and not interested in cooking when I was there, so never thought to ask for the recipe. Thank you, Anne Message: 9 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:58:05 -0500 From: June Meyer <[1]junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Susskrait To: Angela <[2]acmoyls@gmail.com> Cc: "do[3]nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <do[4]nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8C9B5141-F1CC-4E[5]54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Angela, here is the recipe for Grumbiere and Noodles (Potatoes and Dumplings with Breadcrumbs) exactly as it appears in my cookbook "June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom recipes". Enjoy!! June Good to serve with a cold Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream and a cooked fruit like peaches, plums, etc. Serves 4. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWA[6]BEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com 2. mailto:acmoyls@gmail.com 3. mailto:nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:nauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com 6. mailto:BEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com

I remember have Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream when I visited Jimbolia, Romania in 1970. I would love the recipe. Sadly, I was too young and not interested in cooking when I was there, so never thought to ask for the recipe. Thank you, Anne Message: 9 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:58:05 -0500 From: June Meyer <junemeyerrecipes@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Susskrait To: Angela <acmoyls@gmail.com> Cc: "donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8C9B5141-F1CC-4E54-9005-FD19EA2BC932@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Angela, here is the recipe for Grumbiere and Noodles (Potatoes and Dumplings with Breadcrumbs) exactly as it appears in my cookbook "June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom recipes". Enjoy!! June Good to serve with a cold Cucumber Salad with Sour Cream and a cooked fruit like peaches, plums, etc. Serves 4.

Thank you, Linda! Anne D.

checkout Ellisisland.org for ship manifests. You register, but there is no cost. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lotte Devlin via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: <terionthego@gmail.com>; <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [DVHH] immigrating via Bremerhaven in 1952 > > Teri > > Amazingly enough, my family immigrated to the US on the General Blatchford > as well, leaving Bremerhaven on April 11th 1952 and landing in New York on > April 21st. I remember my mother telling us how rough the trip was and > how everyone was seasick. > > I actually found the ship manifest with my family's names on Ancestry.com. > They have scanned images of all the immigration documents from the early > 1900's on. I also found the manifests for my grandmother, who came by > ship to the US at age 10 to work, and again later to immigrate via Pan Am > Airlines. I also found her sisters' documents. My maternal grandmother's > documents were also available. > > If you go on Ancestry.com, go to the passenger list section and do a > search of your parents' names. They usually have a free introductory > membership. > > If you don't mind my asking, were you immigrating from a DP camp? We had > been in the Haid Lager in Austria. > > Hope this helps! Good luck. > > Lotte Leisch Devlin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Teri Hunt via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > To: donauschwaben-villages <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Oct 18, 2014 3:32 pm > Subject: [DVHH] immigrating via Bremerhaven in 1952 > > > Searching for information: > > The name of the ship was Gen. Blatchford… originating from Bremerhaven. > We > disembarked in New Orleans - perhaps via New York . After our arrival in > New > Orleans, we continued on a 3 day train journey to Los Angeles. > > This would have been in March or May 1952…. Remember that we had high > Seas… > almost hurricane force. Also had a burial at Sea - one of our own died > died > while on board. > > Since I was young do not remember other details…. Hope that you can be of > help. > Thanks, Theresia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com