I am looking for information on how to find property that my great-grandparents owned in Giseladorf.  Does anyone know if property lists for 1895 or so are available? Or, perhaps there are maps showing where families lived? Thank you so much.

Hello Donna, Yes, that name does ring a bell. It seems to be common in the area around Goldscheuer/Marlen/Kittersburg in Baden Württemberg. There were some Werles who settled in Apatin in the 1700's. There is also a Wehrle entry in the online Weprowatz Familienbuch (P. 1391): http://www.schererkarlsruhe.de/familienbuch-weprowatz.html Do you have any names, dates, villages, etc. of your ancestors to help narrow down your search? I also happen to know there are Wehrle descendants living in the Winnipeg, Manitoba area. Their ancestors from the Black Forest in Germany were part of a group of immigrants who settled in the small community of Little Britain around 1929. If you search http://www.canada411.ca/ you'll find a number of Wehrle listings--I'm pretty sure they're all related. You might want to give some of them a call. Good luck in your search, Rose On 7 November 2014 08:35, Donna Dickens via < donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am looking for origin of early settlers last name Werle....hope their > name rings a bell. > > Donna > > > On Friday, November 7, 2014 3:01 AM, " > donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com" < > donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > > To respond to a Digest Mode message, click reply, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE > TO REFLECT THE TOPIC - then delete any postings/text not specific to the > message you are responding to. Otherwise it could cause your message to be > too long and not get posted. Your cooperation is appreciated. > Today's Topics: > > 1. Metrovica (Michael Ewing) > 2. DS from Ruma (Anne Dreer) > 3. FW: Kochevia (Noelle) > 4. Re: FW: Kochevia (Harold) > 5. Re: DS from Ruma (Eric Jiran) > 6. Re: FW: Kochevia (Rita Schiwanowitsch) > Roger, > > You are in the right place, but alas southern Syrmia is rarely discussed. > The town of Mitrowitz or Mitrovica has regional archives containing records > of several towns in the area. To the best of my knowledge, the records of > this region have either not been filmed or are not easily available except > through in-person visits to the archives. There might be a Familienbuch > (family book) - perhaps others on the list may know. Mitrowitz is close to > Ruma where my family comes from. What surnames are you looking for? > > Mike > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:00 AM, < > donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > > To respond to a Digest Mode message, click reply, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE > > TO REFLECT THE TOPIC - then delete any postings/text not specific to the > > message you are responding to. Otherwise it could cause your message to > be > > too long and not get posted. Your cooperation is appreciated. > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Metrovica (kemjr@aol.com) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:03:16 -0500 > > From: kemjr@aol.com > > Subject: [DVHH] Metrovica > > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <8D1C72924C2037E-1B4C-1CD05@webmail-vm052.sysops.aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > I am searching for information on my wife's family from Metrovica, Srem > > Slavania, and Calma. Both are in modern day Serbia. > > Am I on the right list for this area ? > > Roger Hecht > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > End of DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 276 > > ****************************************************** > > > > > Hello Mike Ewing, > My husband was from Ruma. Do you have any information on where the Rumaer > originally came from? Some members of our family came from the Black Forest > in Germany. > The Rumaer dialect sounds more Bavarian than the one from Baden > Württemberg. Do you have any information at all. > I have the two volumes of the Ruma books, but hey only have the former > residents names and street and house numbers. They have the history of the > the settlement, but not where the people came from . > Anne Dreer > > > > > From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:56 AM > To: Noelle > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kochevia > > > > I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order > to > look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find > it if the name was in German. > > Hans > > > > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? > > Noelle > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Hello All... > > > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that > her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is > Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where > this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > As near as I can find, Kochevia is in Russia. > > Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Noelle via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > To: donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:07:24 PM > Subject: [DVHH] FW: Kochevia > > > > > > From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:56 AM > To: Noelle > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kochevia > > > > I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order > to > look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find > it if the name was in German. > > Hans > > > > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? > > Noelle > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Hello All... > > > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that > her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is > Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where > this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Hi Anne Dreer and Mike Ewing, > > I also have family from Ruma, and would be interested in any information > you are willing to share! > My 2x great grandmother is Elizabeta Pendle (1873-1949). Her parents were > Pavao Pendl and Ana Wolf. > > Elizabeta married Ivan Hoffman, and they had 4 children: Barbara, Eva (my > g-grandmother), Rose, and Adam. > > Ivan Hoffman died sometime before 1914; Elizabeta then married Josip > Molnar in Feb 1914. Josip was a widower and had three children of his own, > Rose, Josephine, and Frank. Josip died in 1917. > > Barbara Hoffman came to Chicago in 1907. > Rose Hoffman died in 1918 > Eva Hoffman married my g-grandfather Anton Felker in 1920 in Ruma. > > In 1921 Elizabeta packed up the family, my newly married g-grandparents, > Adam, and the three Molnar kids, and moved to Chicago. > > The only thing we know about Anton's history is his father died when he > was very young; his mother's first name was Magdalena; and he was raised > mostly by an aunt and uncle; we don't know their names. > > The earliest document we have on Anton is his First Communion at the > Catholic church in Ruma. > > So basically I would welcome any information on: > Anton Felker and his parents > Ivan Hoffman and his parents > Pavao and Ana (Wolf) Pendle > > Many thanks! > Eric Jiran > > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 11/6/14, Anne Dreer via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > Subject: [DVHH] DS from Ruma > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014, 4:48 PM > > Hello Mike Ewing, > My husband was from Ruma. Do you have any information on > where the Rumaer originally came from? Some members of our > family came from the Black Forest in Germany. > The Rumaer dialect sounds more Bavarian than the one from > Baden Württemberg. Do you have any information at all. > I have the two volumes of the Ruma books, but hey only have > the former residents names and street and house numbers. > They have the history of the the settlement, but not > where the people came from . > Anne Dreer > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > Hi All.... > > The lady I spoke to about Kochevia..... insists that it is in > Yugoslavia. That her Oma came to the States either after WWII or just > before. The family name was Ojbolt. > > Rita > > > > > > > To: donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 20:07:24 -0500 > > Subject: [DVHH] FW: Kochevia > > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:56 AM > > To: Noelle > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kochevia > > > > > > > > I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In > order to > > look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only > find > > it if the name was in German. > > > > Hans > > > > > > > > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via > > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? > > > > Noelle > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via > > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hello All... > > > > > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that > > her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is > > Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine > where > > this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Anne, Mike, and Eric, I am always interested in learning more about Ruma because my father, his parents and grandparents were all born there. In fact our ancestor, Thomas Krenwaeldl (later changed to Krewedl) first came to Ruma in 1750. My father, Franz Krewedl (1915-2004), always claimed that the people who settled in Ruma came from the Bamberg region in Germany. Apparently this claim stems from a manuscript entitled, "Die Geschichte der Marktgemeinde Ruma, von Carl Bischof. I only know of this manuscript from a book I own entitled, "Rumaer Dokumentation 1745-1945." by Franz Wilhelm. Carl Bischof apparently was a genealogist in the 1930's whom my father hired to research our family back to the original settler. He created for us, as he did for many other Rumaer families, a wonderful family tree which of course is among our family's greatest treasure. Where exactly Thomas, his wife, Barbara, 2 sons and 2 daughters came from in the Bamberg area remains a mystery. I hope this little bit of information is of some help. Dolores Krewedl Brooks > On Nov 6, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Anne Dreer via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello Mike Ewing, > My husband was from Ruma. Do you have any information on where the Rumaer originally came from? Some members of our family came from the Black Forest in Germany. > The Rumaer dialect sounds more Bavarian than the one from Baden Württemberg. Do you have any information at all. > I have the two volumes of the Ruma books, but hey only have the former residents names and street and house numbers. They have the history of the the settlement, but not where the people came from . > Anne Dreer > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%C4%8Devje Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Daniela via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Kochevja (Kocevje) could be in Slovenia. There is a Kochevja forest in South-East Slovenia. > At one time Slovenia was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. > > > Daniela Ivkovic Showley > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > > I used the Sheetl seeker and it came up with only one, in Russia. Sorry. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rita Schiwanowitsch via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> > > Hi All.... > > The lady I spoke to about Kochevia..... insists that it is in Yugoslavia. That > her Oma came to the States either after WWII or just before. The family name > was Ojbolt. > > Rita > > >> From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] > >> I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order to >> look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find >> it if the name was in German. >> >> Hans >> >> >> >> On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via >> <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> >> I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? >> >> Noelle >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via >>> <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello All... >>> >>> In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that >> her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is >> Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where >> this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? >>> >>> Rita > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kochevja (Kocevje) could be in Slovenia. There is a Kochevja forest in South-East Slovenia. At one time Slovenia was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. Daniela Ivkovic Showley -----Original Message----- From: Harold via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> I used the Sheetl seeker and it came up with only one, in Russia. Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Schiwanowitsch via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Hi All.... The lady I spoke to about Kochevia..... insists that it is in Yugoslavia. That her Oma came to the States either after WWII or just before. The family name was Ojbolt. Rita > From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] > I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order to > look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find > it if the name was in German. > > Hans > > > > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? > > Noelle > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Hello All... > > > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that > her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is > Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where > this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > > > Rita

I am looking for origin of early settlers last name Werle....hope their name rings a bell. Donna On Friday, November 7, 2014 3:01 AM, "donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com" <donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: ----- Forwarded Message ----- To respond to a Digest Mode message, click reply, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE TO REFLECT THE TOPIC - then delete any postings/text not specific to the message you are responding to. Otherwise it could cause your message to be too long and not get posted. Your cooperation is appreciated. Today's Topics: 1. Metrovica (Michael Ewing) 2. DS from Ruma (Anne Dreer) 3. FW: Kochevia (Noelle) 4. Re: FW: Kochevia (Harold) 5. Re: DS from Ruma (Eric Jiran) 6. Re: FW: Kochevia (Rita Schiwanowitsch) Roger, You are in the right place, but alas southern Syrmia is rarely discussed. The town of Mitrowitz or Mitrovica has regional archives containing records of several towns in the area. To the best of my knowledge, the records of this region have either not been filmed or are not easily available except through in-person visits to the archives. There might be a Familienbuch (family book) - perhaps others on the list may know. Mitrowitz is close to Ruma where my family comes from. What surnames are you looking for? Mike On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:00 AM, < donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > To respond to a Digest Mode message, click reply, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE > TO REFLECT THE TOPIC - then delete any postings/text not specific to the > message you are responding to. Otherwise it could cause your message to be > too long and not get posted. Your cooperation is appreciated. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Metrovica (kemjr@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:03:16 -0500 > From: kemjr@aol.com > Subject: [DVHH] Metrovica > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D1C72924C2037E-1B4C-1CD05@webmail-vm052.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am searching for information on my wife's family from Metrovica, Srem > Slavania, and Calma. Both are in modern day Serbia. > Am I on the right list for this area ? > Roger Hecht > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 276 > ****************************************************** > Hello Mike Ewing, My husband was from Ruma. Do you have any information on where the Rumaer originally came from? Some members of our family came from the Black Forest in Germany. The Rumaer dialect sounds more Bavarian than the one from Baden Württemberg. Do you have any information at all. I have the two volumes of the Ruma books, but hey only have the former residents names and street and house numbers. They have the history of the the settlement, but not where the people came from . Anne Dreer From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:56 AM To: Noelle Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kochevia I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order to look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find it if the name was in German. Hans On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? Noelle Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello All... > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > Rita > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message As near as I can find, Kochevia is in Russia. Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noelle via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:07:24 PM Subject: [DVHH] FW: Kochevia From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:56 AM To: Noelle Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kochevia I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order to look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find it if the name was in German. Hans On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? Noelle Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello All... > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > Rita > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hi Anne Dreer and Mike Ewing, I also have family from Ruma, and would be interested in any information you are willing to share! My 2x great grandmother is Elizabeta Pendle (1873-1949). Her parents were Pavao Pendl and Ana Wolf. Elizabeta married Ivan Hoffman, and they had 4 children: Barbara, Eva (my g-grandmother), Rose, and Adam. Ivan Hoffman died sometime before 1914; Elizabeta then married Josip Molnar in Feb 1914. Josip was a widower and had three children of his own, Rose, Josephine, and Frank. Josip died in 1917. Barbara Hoffman came to Chicago in 1907. Rose Hoffman died in 1918 Eva Hoffman married my g-grandfather Anton Felker in 1920 in Ruma. In 1921 Elizabeta packed up the family, my newly married g-grandparents, Adam, and the three Molnar kids, and moved to Chicago. The only thing we know about Anton's history is his father died when he was very young; his mother's first name was Magdalena; and he was raised mostly by an aunt and uncle; we don't know their names. The earliest document we have on Anton is his First Communion at the Catholic church in Ruma. So basically I would welcome any information on: Anton Felker and his parents Ivan Hoffman and his parents Pavao and Ana (Wolf) Pendle Many thanks! Eric Jiran -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/6/14, Anne Dreer via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: Subject: [DVHH] DS from Ruma To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014, 4:48 PM Hello Mike Ewing, My husband was from Ruma. Do you have any information on where the Rumaer originally came from? Some members of our family came from the Black Forest in Germany. The Rumaer dialect sounds more Bavarian than the one from Baden Württemberg. Do you have any information at all. I have the two volumes of the Ruma books, but hey only have the former residents names and street and house numbers. They have the history of the the settlement, but not where the people came from . Anne Dreer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hi All.... The lady I spoke to about Kochevia..... insists that it is in Yugoslavia. That her Oma came to the States either after WWII or just before. The family name was Ojbolt. Rita > To: donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 20:07:24 -0500 > Subject: [DVHH] FW: Kochevia > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > > > From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:56 AM > To: Noelle > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kochevia > > > > I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order to > look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find > it if the name was in German. > > Hans > > > > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? > > Noelle > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Hello All... > > > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that > her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is > Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where > this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/dsslawon.html#co lists the Slavonian village of Klokocevci in Croatia east of Zagreb. If it is Kocevska(i.e. Gottschee) there is a website for it here: http://www.gottschee.org/ Croatia (and Slavonia) once part of Yugoslavia. Beth Tolfree Apatin Village Coordinator -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rita Schiwanowitsch via Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 2:41 PM To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Kochevia Hello All... In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? Rita ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I used the Sheetl seeker and it came up with only one, in Russia. Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Schiwanowitsch via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:23:18 PM Subject: Re: [DVHH] FW: Kochevia Hi All.... The lady I spoke to about Kochevia..... insists that it is in Yugoslavia. That her Oma came to the States either after WWII or just before. The family name was Ojbolt. Rita > To: donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 20:07:24 -0500 > Subject: [DVHH] FW: Kochevia > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > > > From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:56 AM > To: Noelle > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kochevia > > > > I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order to > look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find > it if the name was in German. > > Hans > > > > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? > > Noelle > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Hello All... > > > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that > her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is > Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where > this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All.... The lady I spoke to about Kochevia..... insists that it is in Yugoslavia. That her Oma came to the States either after WWII or just before. The family name was Ojbolt. Rita > To: donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 20:07:24 -0500 > Subject: [DVHH] FW: Kochevia > From: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > > > > > > From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:56 AM > To: Noelle > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kochevia > > > > I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order to > look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find > it if the name was in German. > > Hans > > > > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? > > Noelle > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via > <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Hello All... > > > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that > her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is > Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where > this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As near as I can find, Kochevia is in Russia. Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noelle via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> To: donauschwaben-villages-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:07:24 PM Subject: [DVHH] FW: Kochevia From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:56 AM To: Noelle Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kochevia I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order to look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find it if the name was in German. Hans On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? Noelle Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello All... > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > Rita > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: Hans Kopp [mailto:hanskopp.anni@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:56 AM To: Noelle Subject: Re: [DVHH] Kochevia I do have extensive maps from all the Donauschwaben settlements. In order to look I would need to know is this name German or Serbian? I could only find it if the name was in German. Hans On Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:57 PM, Noelle via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? Noelle Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello All... > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > Rita > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mike Ewing, My husband was from Ruma. Do you have any information on where the Rumaer originally came from? Some members of our family came from the Black Forest in Germany. The Rumaer dialect sounds more Bavarian than the one from Baden Württemberg. Do you have any information at all. I have the two volumes of the Ruma books, but hey only have the former residents names and street and house numbers. They have the history of the the settlement, but not where the people came from . Anne Dreer

Hi Anne Dreer and Mike Ewing, I also have family from Ruma, and would be interested in any information you are willing to share! My 2x great grandmother is Elizabeta Pendle (1873-1949). Her parents were Pavao Pendl and Ana Wolf. Elizabeta married Ivan Hoffman, and they had 4 children: Barbara, Eva (my g-grandmother), Rose, and Adam. Ivan Hoffman died sometime before 1914; Elizabeta then married Josip Molnar in Feb 1914. Josip was a widower and had three children of his own, Rose, Josephine, and Frank. Josip died in 1917. Barbara Hoffman came to Chicago in 1907. Rose Hoffman died in 1918 Eva Hoffman married my g-grandfather Anton Felker in 1920 in Ruma. In 1921 Elizabeta packed up the family, my newly married g-grandparents, Adam, and the three Molnar kids, and moved to Chicago. The only thing we know about Anton's history is his father died when he was very young; his mother's first name was Magdalena; and he was raised mostly by an aunt and uncle; we don't know their names. The earliest document we have on Anton is his First Communion at the Catholic church in Ruma. So basically I would welcome any information on: Anton Felker and his parents Ivan Hoffman and his parents Pavao and Ana (Wolf) Pendle Many thanks! Eric Jiran -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/6/14, Anne Dreer via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: Subject: [DVHH] DS from Ruma To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014, 4:48 PM Hello Mike Ewing, My husband was from Ruma. Do you have any information on where the Rumaer originally came from? Some members of our family came from the Black Forest in Germany. The Rumaer dialect sounds more Bavarian than the one from Baden Württemberg. Do you have any information at all. I have the two volumes of the Ruma books, but hey only have the former residents names and street and house numbers. They have the history of the the settlement, but not    where the people came from . Anne Dreer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roger, You are in the right place, but alas southern Syrmia is rarely discussed. The town of Mitrowitz or Mitrovica has regional archives containing records of several towns in the area. To the best of my knowledge, the records of this region have either not been filmed or are not easily available except through in-person visits to the archives. There might be a Familienbuch (family book) - perhaps others on the list may know. Mitrowitz is close to Ruma where my family comes from. What surnames are you looking for? Mike On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:00 AM, < donauschwaben-villages-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > To respond to a Digest Mode message, click reply, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE > TO REFLECT THE TOPIC - then delete any postings/text not specific to the > message you are responding to. Otherwise it could cause your message to be > too long and not get posted. Your cooperation is appreciated. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Metrovica (kemjr@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:03:16 -0500 > From: kemjr@aol.com > Subject: [DVHH] Metrovica > To: donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8D1C72924C2037E-1B4C-1CD05@webmail-vm052.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am searching for information on my wife's family from Metrovica, Srem > Slavania, and Calma. Both are in modern day Serbia. > Am I on the right list for this area ? > Roger Hecht > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES Digest, Vol 7, Issue 276 > ****************************************************** >

I am searching for information on my wife's family from Metrovica, Srem Slavania, and Calma. Both are in modern day Serbia. Am I on the right list for this area ? Roger Hecht

Hello all, I hope you are well. Today is would be my great aunt's 80th birthday. I still have not found her so I thought I would ask if anyone on the list may have her in their family tree or are able to help me with her information to help me find her. Her maiden name is KAISER and I don't know her married name or if she has passed away. I have all my fingers & toes crossed that she may still be alive! This is what I have... My great aunt is Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser by birth. (Parents: Nikolaus & Magdalena Kaiser) She was born in Groß Bečkerek on 3rd November 1934. All I know about her is that she is the youngest sister of my Oppa Franz. Her brothers are ... Franz (Oppa )1924, Stephan 1926, Mathias 1928, Nikolaus 1930. My Oppa was drafted to Afrika Korps 1941 from Groß Bečkerek and her mum Magdalena (my great Oma) died 1st November 1944 in Groß Bečkerek. Her dad Nikolaus (my great Oppa) was listed as living in Steyr, Austria in October 1948 for my Oppa's wedding. I am not sure when my great Oppa left Groß Bečkerek or if my great aunt and uncles left with him. I also do not know what her married name would be if she is alive. If you recognise any of my Oppa's brothers or his sister Elisabeth (my great aunt) please contact me. Warm regards from Australia Mandy This message is confidential and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of the email or any part thereof (including any attachment), is prohibited and you should notify the sender and delete this email immediately. To the fullest extent permitted by law the Gordon accepts no liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments.

Hello-   My great-grandparents, and my grandfather, came from Giseladorf.  Their last name was Bayreder.  I understand that they may have owned/managed a spa/inn/tavern there.  I wondered if anyone knows how to access property lists for the village?  Their names are : Jakob Heinrich and Maria Ilona Majores, and their son Rudolf.  Another relative, Anton Rudolf also lived there.  The time period would probably be 1891-1909.   I believe they lived near a large hill as my Grandfather remembered a hill ending in his yard.   Thank you to anyone who can help me. Karen

Hello Cheryl, I will send you a scan of this family personally Anni Gesendet: Freitag, 31. Oktober 2014 um 18:28 Uhr Von: "cheryl oberkirsch via" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> An: "DVHH Mail List" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> Betreff: [DVHH] Andreas Oberkirsch family Hello, I am still looking for information for Andreas Oberkirsch from Sackelhausen. I specifically would like information on his siblings and his parents Peter Oberkirsch and Anna Maria Wagner. Andreas was born 9 November, 1844 in Sackelhausen. Sincerely,Cheryl Oberkirsch -

Stasa, I found the information you provided very interesting. Possibly you will remember me and my 3rd great grandfather, Mathias Praschinger who married in Csatalja, Batschka in 1811. The church book entry for his marriage indicated he was from Moravia and had to apply for "Home Rights" which were granted. My question is - would this have been a legal process as we think of it today? If yes, would there be documentation & where would one look for such paper work? Have you ever found such documentation? I do not know if he was in the military but have often thought he was & that was how he wound up in Csatalja. Thanks for your thoughts. Judy On Friday, October 31, 2014 6:31 AM, Stasa Cvetkovic via <banat@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Rita and others interested in the sources for studying of the 12th Banat Grenz Regiment! Vast archival content related to the 12th Banat Grenz Regiment is been kept in Archive of Pančevo, archive fond no. 758, archive box 323 (1756-1874) and comprises 331 volumes. Most of the documentation pertains to the following kind of documentation: ledgers, books of account, registries and other, not sorted documents and relates to the following companies (number of company following the name): Pantschewo, Tomaschevatz (1), Perlas (2), Oppowa (3) , Glogon (4), Usdin (6), Antalfalva and Homolitz (7) and 31 unidentified companies. Documentation is in Latin and German languages. Documentation contains (among other) various contracts, notes and contracts related to the leasing of lands, meadows and pastures, payrolls for soldiers and officers, certificates, censuses of families which do not have the residency rights, requests for issuance of "wanderbucher" (journeyman books), requests for opening of trading stores, permissions for buying orchards etc. etc. This archival fond was obtained by the restitution pursuant to the claim of Yugoslavia after the WWII directed to the Republic of Austria, where the documentation was settled at the time in the Royal Chamber Archive in Vienna. Up to 1988, fond was in Archive of Vojvodina in Novi Sad when it was transferred to the Archive in Pančevo according to the provenance and the territoriality principles. I am sorry to say that the fond is not available in electronic form. It is available in Archive, for manual browsing. It is a lot of material (85 meters) and although the fond is officially sorted and cataloged, in the reality, it is not. If someone wish to investigate on the site, I will be glad to help with contacts, accommodation, translation or whatever. Before engaging me or someone else to make the investigation of those materials in Pančevo (which is another possibility of scrutinizing of this fond), I strongly suggest that you should check with the archive(s) in Vienna about the possible microfilm copies of this documentation. I am unsure if they have it or not. Anyway, I hope that this was of some help. Staša, Synergia (www.synergia.rs) On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via < banat@rootsweb.com> wrote: > In the church books I found an entry regarding a specific company of the > 12th Banat Grenz Regiment. Company: Banat Brestowatz Churchbooks: Klam > Baborissa in 1793 and Jabuka Churchbooks: Deleblat in 1821, I would like > to have more information on this company. Does anyone know where I might > find this information? Thank you in advance for your help and > consideration. > > Rita > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just googled it. Could it be the Gottschee town of Kocevje? Noelle Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 2, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello All... > > In a recent discussion with a very young coworker.... I discovered that her family is also from Yugoslavia. She says that the family name is Obolt.... and that they are from Kochevia. I was unable to determine where this city is. Would anyone be able to figure it out? > > Rita > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message